User talk:Viztor/Archive 1

Nomination for deletion of Template:Tracktesttemplate
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Your GA nomination of Aaron Swartz
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Your GA nomination of Aaron Swartz
The article Aaron Swartz you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Aaron Swartz for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ethanpet113 -- Ethanpet113 (talk) 09:21, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Aaron Swartz
The article Aaron Swartz you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Aaron Swartz for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ethanpet113 -- Ethanpet113 (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Ways to improve Third Circuit Court of the Supreme People's Court
Hello, Viztor,

Thanks for creating Third Circuit Court of the Supreme People's Court! I edit here too, under the username Chris troutman and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-

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Chris Troutman ( talk ) 18:43, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Blanking of Penal system in China
Hello, I reverted your blanking of Penal system in China as a non-constructive end run past AfD guidelines. You brought the article to AfD. Let the participants in the discussion form a consensus. If you disagree with the !votes to keep, please make a policy-based rebuttal. Final reminder: the AfD tag says, "Feel free to improve the article, but the article must not be blanked." • Gene93k (talk) 16:01, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm actually in the process of rewriting it, so it would be nice if you could revert your revert so I don't have to. As you can see, I've already rewritten the skeleton of article, and I plan to fill in parts gradually over the next few hours, thanks. Viztor (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * In that case, rewrite the article in your sandbox or in a subpage until it is ready to be published. If you intend to rewrite the article, please consider withdrawing the AfD nomination. • Gene93k (talk) 16:21, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Will do.Viztor (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * BTW, how exactly should I withdraw an AFD nomination, I'm not seeing it on the guide. Thanks. Viztor (talk) 16:57, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The easiest way is to state you wish to withdraw the nomination at the AfD debate. You may want to strike (but don't remove) your original deletion rationale. Please also state that you are working on a new draft at Draft:Penal system in China. An admin or any uninvolved editor can then do a speedy close on the AfD as withdrawn. • Gene93k (talk) 18:42, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Edit war
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on China–United States trade war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Syopsis (talk) 01:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * You're not welcome to use the warning template when you have clearly not read the talk page. Viztor (talk) 01:55, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have read the talk page for that article and it is clear from your actions there and on the main article that you are edit warring. It isn't obvious to you because you don't know how this encyclopedia works - people don't just remove heaps of material that have been sitting there for months on end without even discussing it on the talk page first. Syopsis (talk) 02:34, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Edit War Warning
Your recent editing history at China–United States trade war shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Hari147 (talk) 07:50, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Unconstructive editing-You have been warned
Hi there-I see that you are taking this to a personal level.Only fair and reasonable edits will be permitted.Your articles seem to be pro-Chinese and seem to be of a biased fashion.We should try our best to keep Wikipedia a common grounds for edits and based on facts,rather than towing towards ideology.You have been warned by several users about your edits to China–United_States_trade_war.Any further disruptive actions may lead to a further ban to your editing privileges.Thank you. Hari147 (talk) 10:36, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Without evidence, those accusations you made is a blatant attack on my character, numerous editors have pointed out and participated in the discussion about the neutrality of the article in the talk page over fairly long period of time, while instead of participating in these discussions, you choose to revert any edits that "you think" is "pro-Chinese". While you may feel especially proud expressing your POV, the truth is truth, and you can not hide it by reverting others' edits. I'm finding it difficult to respect your actions. Viztor (talk) 11:14, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

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Wikipedia and copyright
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 * List of functions on official website is not copyright-protected. Viztor (talk) 20:02, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The site I found it on (http://english.gov.cn/state_council/2014/10/01/content_281474991089722.htm) is marked at the bottom as "Copyright© www.gov.cn All rights reserved. Without written authorization from www.gov.cn, such content shall not be republished or used in any form." So yeah, it does enjoy copyright protection. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk)

National Railway Administration moved to draftspace
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ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Syopsis (talk) 21:30, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Montenegrin Guitar Duo
Hello Viztor. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Montenegrin Guitar Duo, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: having two notable members is sufficient for notability per WP:BAND, so it's certainly a sufficient claim to pass A7. Thank you. So Why  09:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand this. I just would like to know how to request a re-evaluation of my article on Hugo Gottesmann. Thank you AS

New Page Review
Hey, I saw your request thread for NPP permissions. Another way that you may be able to demonstrate your knowledge of this criteria would be to participate in WP:AfD discussions, as there you would be making arguments about whether a given article should be kept or deleted (or another action). An advantage of demonstrating your knowledge through AfD is that it's a more collaborative environment than tagging new articles for speedy deletion, so it will be easier to learn the kind of arguments and inclusion-criteria that are important. The penalty for mistakes is also lower, since you'll just be one voice in a conversation. I'm not an admin and can't grant NPP permissions, but I am one of the most active patrollers right now, and I personally feel that having a solid track record at AfD can help make a good case for being granted NPR permissions. Not watching the page, ping me if you need anything signed,Rosguill talk 20:07, 3 June 2019 (UTC) Thanks a lot for the advice. I will see what to do about that. You're awesome :) Viztor (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Hangzhou Museum moved to draftspace
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Duly noted. thanks for the reminder. 12:33, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Forbidden City
Sorry for all the pings recently, but thank you so much for your work on Forbidden City articles. I've been waiting for someone to work on stubs for many of the buildings since I visited Beijing back in 2016 and struggled to find articles about all the sites I saw. BTW, I uploaded my pics here: commons:User:Another Believer/Beijing. I left a few more questions on the template talk page, when you have a moment. Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:32, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm also working on the Forbidden City articles recently. And I will make sure to check your suggestions later. The official website of the Palace Museum has a [Map] and introductions, which could be of great help if you want to create some articles on its building. I will be more than glad to add them to the templates when I saw one :)Viztor (talk) 21:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow, this map is super helpful. I will definitely review my photographs and see if I can see which buildings are still missing articles. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:50, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * :) Also, on the question of the river, it seems they are connected though I'm still trying to find credible sources saying so. I will make sure to do some more digging. Viztor (talk) 21:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , Wonderful, thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem :) Viztor (talk) 22:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of the Jean Orry article
Hello Viztor - I note that most of your editing on Wikipedia has been in the past few months. It is always good to see occasional editors take the leap and become more involved. The nomination you made for the Jean Orry article came to my attention because I just happen to watch the talk page of the editor who first drafted the article.

I see that you've made several nominations for deletion in recent weeks. Some are likely to result in deletion, but several are being kept pretty quickly. A few suggestions to help you discern which are most likely to be deleted:
 * If there are articles on the same subject in several other languages (particularly if they are on "large" Wikipedias, like French, Spanish, German, Italian), then it is likely the subject is going to meet the notability standard and is not a good candidate for deletion. English Wikipedia has probably the lowest notability standard of all the large Wikipedias.
 * Make sure that you have carried out a solid Google and Google Book search before nominating, especially for historical subjects. It took seconds to discover additional sources for the Orry article.
 * Follow the deletion discussions for a few days' worth of articles. Read the articles involved, perhaps participate in the discussions.  When the AfDs are closed, take a look at which ones resulted in delete, keep or other outcomes.  This will help you to identify what kinds of articles are likely to be deleted, and how best to present your deletion argument.

I hope you find this helpful. It's challenging to get involved in some of the "behind the curtain" activities at Wikipedia, but you're making plenty of useful contributions and I'd be sad if you found it discouraging when others don't agree with your proposals. All the best, Risker (talk) 18:24, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the kind reminder. I should have checked those. Though the thing that triggered me the first place was the fact it had no valid citation or reference, books and url etc., I'm not exactly sure what to do with these. Should we just leave them like that? Some of the historical figures on zhwiki got AfD nominated because they only have a single source. I will make sure to check more thoroughly next time, and again thanks for the notice. Viztor (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll chime in here to add that it looks like you are being too hasty on your deletion nominations as well.  Just looking at some of your recent nominations, I noticed that you nominated Adele Uddo for deletion only 45 minutes after it was created, and you nominated Mactan-Cebu International Airport Terminal 2 only an hour and 20 minutes after it was created.   Deletion doesn't have to be a race, please consider giving the article creators a few days to expand articles as they create them before nominating them for deletion or pasting a bunch of article improvement templates on them (not that I've noticed you doing that second thing). RecycledPixels (talk) 16:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Some article just won't do if it is not notable, if it is, it won't be difficult to find anything about it. Time created may increase the quality of the article, but i don't think it will raise the notability. however, I appreciate the notice and believe waiting for sometime before XfD can be helpful when asserting on notability. thanks. Viztor (talk) 20:01, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I know I am biased in this since I created one of the articles you have nominated for deletion (I am genuinely curious how you came across it, based on your stated interests on your front page), but for what it's worth, I am not surprised that others feel you are being too hasty in your deletion nominations, for reasons I discuss more fully on the discussion page for the deletion of One Night (2009 film). I am not sure if you yet appreciate that different topics have different criteria, both in terms of rigour (e.g. medical RS are a lot tougher than regular RS) and verifiability. So, just because you don't recognize a film's awards as internationally important, for example, is not a reason to delete the film article: do all films with articles on WP have awards? No. Do they help? Sure. Necessary? No. Coverage by secondary sources is the bare standard for general notability as well as verifiability. The article may not have many (and I've added one since) but it does have them.ZarhanFastfire (talk) 00:38, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * At first, I thought this might be a niche award known to the industry, so I did some more digging. It is clear as day few if any recognize this award as world-class. It bestow awards in 200 categories, which means each year there will be at least 600 people getting the awards. A majority of those who applied will get an award. It is hilarious.Viztor (talk) 11:35, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I suggest you read WP:IDIDN'THEARTHAT. You are so fixated on what awards a film has and whether they are "world class", that you seem to think having an award that isn't world class (whatever that means) is grounds for deletion of an article; that it's a reflection on the film itself and somehow negates any other of its (the article's) aspects. I don't know which one you're referring to; the Houston festival has been around since the 60s. I don't know how you arrive at the conclusion that the majority of those who "applied" get an award. That's not how it works. They don't apply for a specific award, which you'd know if you read a few dozen articles on filmmaking or awards or even just film articles by now. Films in competition are selected by the festival and then nominated for specific awards, which are not doled out as "you get one, you get one, you get one". What sources do you have to cite that tell us how many films were in competition for this or that award and that almost everyone got one? And what does this have to do with what I brought to your attention? You are not addressing the issues,so I'm done arguing with you. Good luck with your other WP edits. From what others are telling you, you would be wise to work on making positive contributions to WP rather than wasting everyone's time trying to delete so many articles until you have more experience. Just my advice, for what it's worth. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 18:20, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not what I said. You're the one brought up awards as criteria, so I have to argue on that. Viztor (talk) 18:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I may have brought it up here, but it was in response to you making use of the awards as an argument for deleting the article. It was one of the two arguments you made.ZarhanFastfire (talk) 03:07, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

ANI report
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 05:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft HSFC
Thanks. I've initially added the content from the official website of ISRO in my own words. However, the page got deleted due to 'copyright' reason. That's why I created this page now with minimal content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esamueljohnson (talk • contribs) 05:19, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

You're absolutely welcome. BTW, don't forget to sign your comment with ~ so people are aware of the context. Enjoy your wiki experience. Viztor (talk) 23:19, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted
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Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also: Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
 * Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
 * Protection policy, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.

Warning users
This seemed a little WP:BITE-y to me. Yes, it was vandalism, but sometimes new editors just mess around to see how things work. welcomevandal is an appropriate way to steer a brand new user away from vandalism and encourage them to contribute constructively.

If they keep doing it repeatedly, then we can lower the boom. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

I sure see the point, however, I doubt the innocence when he changed someone's name to Adolf Hitler, that's why I warned. I'm certainly ok if it's just some random texts or self introduction or anything really.Viztor (talk) 17:31, 11 June 2019 (UTC) This creates a natural step for escalation towards uw-vandalism4 which gives cause to report to WP:AIV. That's just me, though. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 02:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Viztor, it's not about innocence. It could've been a stupid joke to them. I would recommend just using the uw-vandalism1 (or uw-vandalism2 for situations like this, I guess) template instead of typing out an original reply. That's my own preference because I only use welcomevandal when I think a vandal might not be a repeat offender.
 * Thank you for your valuable input. I really appreciate it.Viztor (talk) 02:53, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Non-admin closure of Articles_for_deletion/David_Simchi-Levi
Hi Viztor. While I agree that this AFD was unlikely to go anywhere other than keep, I believe you may have acted improperly in closing it as you did for three reasons: I'm not going to undo your closure myself as that is probably verging on WP:POINTy, but I wouldn't entirely blame Huon if they wished to do so. Hugsyrup (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The most obvious is that you !voted keep and then closed it. That means you are not uninvolved, and WP:NACINV is very clear that non-admin (and indeed admin) closures should be done by non-involved parties. At AFD, that surely means someone who did not !vote.
 * 2) A second point is that WP:SNOW specifically states that the clause should not be applied simply because it is an 'uphill battle'. User:Huon was still actively debating and disagreeing with the keep voters and there is legitimate debate to be had about the WP:NPROF criteria. The article had avoided the AFC process and been nominated (and declined) for a speedy deletion, so surely that suggests there is some kind of debate worth having about it, that should not be shut down as WP:SNOW. The AFD had only been open for a couple of days and it is possible (though certainly unlikely) that consensus could have swung the other way.
 * 3) I'd have had less of an issue with an admin or very experienced editor making the snow closure, but you are relatively new to AFDs and do not exactly exactly have a perfect record in this area.
 * You're right, I do see that the proposer is still trying, and hence have reverted the closure. Although I do not think your first point and third point is valid, I do believe we can keep that difference.Viztor (talk) 18:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Meh. I'd say most of the current !votes should be disregarded by the closer because they just provide one of the arguments to avoid or another (including Viztor's own), with one blatant misrepresentation of WP:NACADEMIC thrown in for good measure. The author is one of the few contributors who have made arguments towards notability beyond mere assertions (I should have said right in the nomination that "his h-index of 65 is pitifully low and clearly establishes his non-notability"; I have no idea whether that's true and cannot provide evidence, but hey, that's apparently not required). Since apparently for a sufficiently narrow definition of "his subject area" (does any reliable secondary source confirm that that's his subject area?) the journals whose editor-in-chief he was and is indeed are "major, well-established academic journal[s] in their subject area", so he probably gains automatic notability and we can dispense with such bothersome policies as WP:PST. OK, rant mode off. Viztor, I'd strongly suggest that you consider again what Hugsyrup said about WP:NACINV; long, long ago I learned that lesson when I was brought to AN/I for having closed a move discussion to which I had contributed. There are very few occasions when a contributor can close a discussion; this certainly wasn't one of them. Huon (talk) 20:34, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Wrongly accepted edit
Why would you accept this change?! Please be careful. Check the history page, etc. before accepting an unexplained change by an anonymous IP. Thanks. Musdan77 (talk) 18:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Change review is in place to counter obvious vandalism, and occasionally prevent edit warring, not to exam the correctness every change IP users' make, that is the job for the wiki process. Thanks. Viztor (talk) 19:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * But, you didn't follow the "wiki process"! (as you put it.) If you had accepted the change, then checked, you would have reverted your acceptance. So, I had to revert it, which made your acceptance worthless. This was vandalism. How did you determine it wasn't? You have to find out. Most pages that are protected is because of vandalism by anonymous IPs. And I had just added a reference because of this IP (different address but obviously the same person). Furthermore, if you had taken the time to check my edit count page you'd have seen that I have been a reviewer for 5 years, so... Musdan77 (talk) 22:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * How is a change of "voss" to "ross" vandalism? Unless there is indicated edit warring, I'm obligated to accept in this situation.Viztor (talk) 22:47, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The first time can be assumed a good faith edit (mistake), but the second time, especially after an editor adds a reference proving the correct way, then it's obvious vandalism. Okay? --Musdan77 (talk) 17:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not true and at its best a terrible definition. Involved in an edit dispute does not mean an editors on neither side is a vandal. Otherwise, we would not have a noticeboard on 3RR for that everyone would be banned for vandalism before they breach the code. You really should not jump to conclusion that the other editor involved is just a vandal because that eliminates the possibility of a discussion and make it difficult for them to participate in the wiki process. You edit is probably correct in this case, however, that does not mean you get to call the other editor a vandal when all they did is change 'v' to 'r'. Viztor (talk) 21:43, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Special:Diff/902288743/902341706 was clear-cut vandalism of a very common kind, and all it takes to verify is that you check the source. When Musdan77 comes and gives you advice, just take it on-board. Sam Sailor 23:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This is not a clear-cut vandalism as you suggested. Yes, you can certainly choose to be the meticulous editor who check upon every sentence IP user adds or edits and require sources for every edit, but it's up to you and so are all the editors involved. Policy has clearly stated what pending reviews are used for, in this case, it is clearly "broadly acceptable for viewing by a casual reader." Best. Viztor (talk) 00:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Pinging Kudpung who granted PCR to Viztor, please re-evaluate. Thanks, Sam Sailor 01:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Like I said, the policy is clear on this issue. You may want to push for policy change or offer advices in a less patronizing way. Thanks. Viztor (talk) 02:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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When I accorded you  this right  I  was impressed by  your  work  on  the zh.Wiki and assumed you  would know what  you  would be doing on the en.Wiki. PC Reviewer is the easiest user right  to  obtain, in  fact  the first  few thousand were accorded by a bot. However, it is also easy-come-easy-go so  it must  be done correctly.

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I am also asking you to refrain  from  making  Non Admin Closures at  AfD until you  have made a full three months substantial editing to  en.Wiki. and thoroughly read and digested WP:N and WP:DELETION. If you need any  help  or advice, don't  hesitate  to  ask  me or the editors who have already  contacted you, many  of whom  are admins. Thanks. Pinging, , , , , , , ,. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the pinging. Like I said to Sam Sailor, the policy is clear. Vandalism may exist in many forms, and the most obvious ones are filtered by pending change reviews, the truthfulness of the content are left with the editors who are familiar with the subject matter. I did exactly what the policy asked. Thanks. Viztor (talk) 02:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

NAC
Can you please explain your WP:NAC here? There was no clear keep consensus and it was just relisted by an admin yesterday. I'd strongly advise you refrain from performing NACs or even relists (see WP:RELISTBIAS) until you have a lot more experience in these areas, especially given your AFD stats. Praxidicae (talk) 16:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with Praxidicae. I haven't looked at your history of NAC or AfD iinvolvement, so I can't comment on that, but as far as WP:Articles for deletion/Dario Hunter 2020 presidential campaign is concerned, yeah, that wasn't a good WP:NAC.  I'd recommend being more conservative about only closing AfDs which are clearly obvious.  Thanks.  -- RoySmith (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm waiting for a response but I have a lot more concerns beyond this....Praxidicae (talk) 17:17, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * A majority of the votes went to keep, and most delete vote also suggest merge, what's the problem of keep/merge closure? Viztor (talk) 06:36, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * AFD is not a vote. The quantity of votes do not matter, it's the quality and basis in policy and established norms. I'd strongly suggest you avoid administrative/experienced areas until you have a better understanding of this (several months and several more mainspace edits) including NACS. There are many messages here on your talk page about your recent actions, I suggest you take them to heart. Praxidicae (talk) 10:33, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, as I said, it was relisted by an admin, just a day before. You as a non-admin, can't just NAC something that was relisted. Praxidicae (talk) 10:43, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * In this case, it is extremely unlikely the consensus would move towards delete, even in the case prolonged discussion. As most agreed that the person is notable, the question is more about "if we should have a split article". Should not something like that be debated on the talk page instead of AfD? Or that we would just let it run its course given its already there? Viztor (talk) 10:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * To be quite honest, your AFD stats do not inspire any confidence in me that you can adequately judge where consensus might go but I would just continue to advise you as I have already done, to stop messing with AFDs other than commenting or voting. It must run it's course and if you insist on closing it or otherwise dabbling in maintenance at AFD, I will ask that you be formally banned from doing so at ANI. Additionally, you cannot just overrule an admin on an AFD who just relisted it a day prior because you had a random urge to do so. Praxidicae (talk) 11:04, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think I've asked a pretty clear question. I don't know why you start judging me instead of commenting on this specific question. It is not helpful. Viztor (talk) 11:15, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * And I've answered it, however I'll note the last 5+ threads here are people questioning your edits and asking you to stop - you've also failed to answer my question, as to why you thought it prudent to NAC an AFD that had just been relisted by an administrator? Praxidicae (talk) 11:17, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I fully embrace questions but they must be based on reasoning and logic. The question is simple, since it's almost impossible this AfD proposal will result in a deletion, and with a consensus leaning towards merge/keep, do we let it run its course of seven days (again), or should the discussion be better conducted in its respective talk page? Viztor (talk) 11:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what part of It must run it's course was unclear. Praxidicae (talk) 13:14, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to note that you cannot relist your own nomination. Praxidicae (talk) 13:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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Special:Diff/898738670/902553114 was a change of "Raees Ahmadzai (September 2011)" to "Rashid khan (march 2019)". You reviewed and accepted the edit. A change of a blue link to a red link should always make you alert. A miscapitalization of a link should also make you alert. The first thing to check is if there actually was a change of goodwill ambassador in March, perhaps the IP editor just made a mistake when typing "khan", that is common on mobile devices, so you open the source. There you see that Rashid Khan has not Raees Ahmadzai, both of them are now ambassadors, so you need to add Raees Ahmadzai back. Change caps to Rashid Khan, preview and hover over the link with Popups, target is a hndis page. Open it. Rashid Khan (cricketer) is our man. Go back and substitute  for. Preview as usual. Happy with it? Now you are done. Got it? If you want to go an extra mile since you are already editing, you could check red-linked articles for possible s (H:ILL). I did a few, see Special:Diff/902553114/902609334, and noticed that the red-linked Jose Manuel Calderón was missing an acute accent, but José Manuel Calderón is a redirect to the hndis José Calderón, so  should substitute for. This, naturally, is not part of PC review, it's just an idea to what can be done. In any case, please do not rush pc review, quality is more important than quantity. And do not hesitate to ask one of us for advice. Best, Sam Sailor 00:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * In a somewhat similar situation in you accepted these two edits by a new editor. They have since been reverted. Please have a look at it again and identify, why the edits should not have been accepted, at least not without proper amendment. Sam Sailor 07:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

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INVOLVED closes
You should generally resist from moving pages that you have voted in a requested move for, such as Talk:List of national railway administrations. While this one was a unanimous enough to invoke WP:IAR, it is always best to stay away from dealing with moves where you were a part of the discussion. -- qedk ( t  桜  c ) 06:02, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * a) WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY, b) this is not an WP:IAR case, an undisputed move request do not need discussion per move policy, hence anyone can move. Viztor (talk) 20:42, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Viztor, I believe what means by invoking  WP:IAR is invoking it for WP:NACINV and not the close. You essentially are in agreement with the first point,I believe.  &#8211;  MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:50, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the reminder. Viztor (talk) 21:03, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the late reply but my point was that you should resist from doing so, the policy (WP:NOTBURO) you cited in point (a) is a direct implication of the WP:IAR policy, which is a pillar of Wikipedia. So, no, I do not disagree in this particular case, but you should try to not make changes where you are INVOLVED, because eventually someone will claim you are biased and that will result in procedural overturning. -- qedk ( t  桜  c ) 05:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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Not sure how I would have voted on this, but as a note, Loudoun Gateway station (a station on an extension of the Washington DC subway) was created in 2006 and is *supposed* to open next year. (and when the article was created, the expected completion was between 2011 and 2015. The same is more or less true for the other stations in phase 2 of the silver line.Naraht (talk) 18:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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WAM 2021 Postcard - Google form update
Thank you for supporting Wikipedia Asian Month 2021! The last page of the WAM 2021 Postcard Google form has last year's dates. See you for WAM 2022! I look forward to reading my postcard. KarenJoyce (talk) 21:45, 22 February 2022 (UTC)