User talk:Vladimir Nosov~enwiki/Archive 20

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conflictologist.narod...
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. JRSP 16:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Dear Sir!

As you, maybe, know, Wikipedia accepted links to "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues". All pages of site www.conflictologist.narod... contain warning, that no part of articles can be used without permission of author. So there were a clear reason, why this site is must be linked to Wikipedia.

Also, "since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings" - so where you see here a problem and why you considered links as a spam?

After this, I am strongly recommend you return all erased links.


 * Those links are not in English; this is the English Wikipedia. Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. El_C 19:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Some pages is not understand symbol, this is reason why I am insert a link without addition about language. I am sorry for inconvenience.

Links Problem
Wikipedia accepted links to "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues". All pages on the site www.conflictologist.narod... contain warning, that no part of articles can be used without permission of author. So there were a clear reason, why this site is must be linked to Wikipedia, not just copied.

This site is in Russian-only mode, but it is not a cause to exclude links - for example, Spanish-language links perfectly exist in English Wikipedia.

Please stop placing links to conflictologist.narod...
English Wikipedia is not the appropriate place for the links to your site. Please see WP:EL, which states "English language links are strongly preferred in the English-language Wikipedia. It may be appropriate to have a link to a foreign-language site, such as when an official site is unavailable in English, when the link is to the subject's text in its original language or they contain visual aids such as maps, diagrams, or tables, per the guideline on foreign-language sites."

If you are the owner of the site, Conflict of Interest also applies.

Furthermore, I visited the site through a translation service (Alta Vista Babelfish). It does not appear to contain any proper citations or provide any primary source material that could not otherwise be obtained through English language sources. Notmyrealname 16:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Do not expect me to engage in a discussion with you if you delete my comments. That is considered to be very rude. There are plenty of sources on all the parties you mention if you try Google. Notmyrealname 16:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Excuse me for my action directed to you recent post. I am deeply regretted. I don't know, that is SO offensive to you, and think, that if I gave you an answer on your page, there were no need to replicate it elsewhere, just to place something like a link. Accept my sincere apologies.

There are no any plenty of sources "on all the parties you mention if you try Google". If you try Google, you find nothing about Nicaraguan Communist Party or Ghana military coup, apart, ironically, Wikipedia. If you wish to prove this, try, for example, compile a list of general-secretary of Nicaraguan Communist party only by Google search results.

Again excuse me for deleting your post! Vladimir Nosov 17:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Apology accepted. There are many rules and customs on Wikipedia and it takes us all some time to learn them. This isn't my area of expertise, and I don't have the time to invest in this right now, but if there aren't English web sites, then there are Spanish ones (for Nicaragua and Guatemala, for instance), and also books. The Russian site you link to doesn't appear to use proper citations, so, besides not being in either English or the original country language, it is not a proper source. Please see WP:RS for help in determining how to evaluate sources. And I hope you don't take my deletion of your links personally. I'm just taking out links that I find to be in conflict with Wikipedia policies cited above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notmyrealname (talk • contribs)


 * I have an equivalent of MA in Modern History, so your advice

read more books looked very strange for me - and for some degree, funny. :) As a rule, it is from the books I take main part of information. And, it is very usual for wikipedians (excuse me for directness), you're not a specialist, but not hesitate after 20-second observation claimed "this site is appeared not to...". Main purpose of previous my post (about PCdeN gen.-secs.) is to demonstrate you, that Google is not some sort of magic well (and, as a fact, I have a list of PCdeN general secretaries). And I must disappoint you a lot - modern history\politics of neither Guatemala, nor Nicaragua, nor Ghana is not covered by Internet resources. Events in so-called Third world is extremely badly covered - and you never find a handful (not to tell "plenty") of info about Malian affairs. This is reason why Internet need an information hub about events in the Third world from the end of WWII. And, unfortunately, Wikipedia were not a such hub now, don't have a tendency to be, and not expected to be - and have a strong other tendency, I tell about tendency of Wikipedia to be a some sort of club for a lonely hearts, where you can make a cosmetic changes to some articles, find a friends and chat a lot. As a result of all factors, and not least extremely hostile and not always reasonable reaction of wikipedians I am pledge not contribute a single byte up to New Year. Hope, you're not offended. Vladimir Nosov 11:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Vladimir, please don't do that. I am very sorry you feel bitten. I am sure that if you can make a blog like conflictologist.narod..., you have the potential for becoming a great wikipedian but you have to familiarize yourself with the policies. Instead of using your blog as a source, use the original source where you read the info( for instance, Tripp's book in the Irak article). JRSP 11:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Very well. After you all do every possible thing to make my life and work in wikipedia almost impossible, than you suddenly changed tune and "very sorry" after previous uncompromising assaults. How it interesting! Have you any idea, why I must spend my time and knowledge in battles with unreasonable public who live here in wikipedia? Why, if not for the deal like "expertise for traffic"? And because of attitude of wikipediks I think, that idea not to contribute to wikipedia is very good, and I am now prolonged period of my "stay-out" one year more up to the next Christmas. Vladimir Nosov (talk) 14:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Linkspamming
Please read WP:EL. You've been warned enough times. Spam that link again and you'll be blocked from editing. Last chance - A l is o n  ☺ 16:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * And please also stop blanking other editors' warnings and modifying their comments. - A l is o n  ☺ 16:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Dear Sir!

But is wrong with addition of info with links? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vladimir Nosov (talk • contribs)


 * They're inappropriate on many articles. There's a potential conflict of interests. Please read the comments above and read WP:SPAM and WP:EL for our policy. Oh, and I'm not a "sir" - A l is o n  ☺ 16:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and you've already been reported for vandalism. I'm here to review & I'm trying to afford you a chance to reform - A l is o n  ☺ 16:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I am sorry for inconvenience, and promise do not just place links, as I am sometimes do. But when I contribute to article, it is possible? Do not redirect me to special page, just to tell me, how been honestly, ok?. Vladimir Nosov 17:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Please be aware that linkspamming may be easily blocked by including the spam link on the spam blacklist. If you want to justify external links, your talk page is not the place to do it. Please discuss it on article relevant talk pages. Cheers! Tazmaniacs 17:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's okay to add certain relevant and appropriate links when editing an article but Wikipedia is not just a collection of links, so it's best to add content rather than the same link again and again - A l is o n  ☺ 17:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * So, it is probably, ok, if, for example, I am add few lines about Iraqi Communist Insurgency, also add a link? I am not hope cheating everyone or negotiating soft terms, but only wish understand clearly, where end the "appropriate" and begin "spamlinks". Wikipedia rules about links is not very clear, you must know. Vladimir Nosov 17:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's on a case-by-case basis, and you need to be familiar with policy. Constantly inserting little but the same URLs into muliple articles is linkspamming. - A l is o n  ☺ 18:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

By way, some additions to articles itself were erased with links just recently. And they contained datas, facts and figures...Vladimir Nosov 17:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe mention it on the talk page of the article(s) in question? - A l is o n  ☺ 18:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Adding some text won't help if you use conflictologist.narod... as a source. It appears to be a webpage run by you ( Russian original, Google Translation) so it does not meet the conditions to be a reliable source. JRSP 20:34, 22 May 2007 (UTC)