User talk:VladoD

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Hello, VladoD, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Bloosee, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bloosee
A tag has been placed on Bloosee requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 10:43, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Wikipedia pages. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 10:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:VladoD
A tag has been placed on User:VladoD, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 10:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

BlooSee
Hi Vlado. There is nothing personal about my deleting BlooSea. The problem with the article was that there was no claim of the company's significance or importance&mdash;this is intended as a lower measure than the notability criteria, rather than a question about a product's relevance to its users. In the case of BlooSea, I suggest that the best way to do that might be through providing examples of independent media coverage. Best wishes, Rje (talk) 12:30, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

BlooSee
Rje, ok, I've republished an article with the format used by other companies and with examples of independent media coverage. Let me know if this time it fits the criteria. Thanks,

Speedy deletion nomination of Bloosee
A tag has been placed on Bloosee requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 13:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

You continue to create this article, but there is no importance asserted, no significance shown, and no third-party reliable sourcing. Do not create this page again. I suggest you created it here instead, and then when you think it is ready you should ask for guidance. By constantly introducing this page, your edits appear to be promotional and disruptive. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 13:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
 * 1) editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
 * 2) participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
 * 3) linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 13:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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BlooSee
Hi Vlado. Unfortunately the people who patrol new pages are sometimes rather quick to pull the trigger, although Timneu22 only moved the article to your userspace, rather than deleting it. The article still reads like a promotional piece in places, and I suggest that you work on the text to make it read more like an encyclopedia entry&mdash;as the article is in userspace at the moment, you don't have to worry about it being deleted. You might also want to read Notability (organizations and companies), because I can only help you avoid the pitfalls of speedy deletion. If the article does not meet the notability criteria it is likely to fail if it is listed for debate at articles for deletion. Let me know if you have any more questions. Best wishes, Rje (talk) 14:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

BlooSee
Rje, thanks for your comments, but I have looked at a number of other companies' articles and mine does no more nor less than others. I feel that because BlooSee is not Facebook or Twitter, reviewers are dismissing it. My biggest issue is the apparent arrogance or indifference of admins or maybe the whole review process that does nothing to help a user navigate the bureaucratic mambo jambo of ambiguously worded rules with no examples or support. Wikipedia is supposed to be a community managed knowledge base not a fascist tyranny of disinterested nazis. I'll be taking this higher up. At least being in the Bay Area, I can walk over to the Wikimedia Foundation in San Francisco and talk to an adult. We have friends there. Thank you for your help. But I am now determined to make someone pay for what bs this process has become. This is ridiculous. Let the community come in and edit my article if something is bogus. I'm sorry that if after seeing the article a reader may want to learn more about a business and patronized it. That's the whole concept of open source. And, now we will block all links to wikipedia from our site. Cheers, VladoD (talk) 15:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The concept of open source is not to allow anyone to do anything, despite your apparent claims that this is how it works. Wikipedia has guidelines about conflict of interest, using wikipedia for promotion, reliable sources and subject notability. Your article has problems in all four of these areas. If you fix those, the article has a place on wikipedia, otherwise it does not. It is in your benefit to fix the text on the article, not to make multiple complaints about its removal. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 15:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)