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Your college edits
Please take a moment to read Template:Infobox university. There is no need to Italicize English text, per MOS:ITALICS; Wikipedia text does not use ampersands; and "college town" is not a parameter in the infobox. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:29, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * With this edit, you added research university. What source did you cite to support this? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:47, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. For that specific edit, the article has a Carnegie Classification R2 university i believe which is why I added it. Most of these are added from info included in the article itself Vns08121721 (talk) 19:04, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The "Carnegie Classification" is not mentioned in the body of the text; it is described within one of the references. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:33, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Why are you adding "flagship" to the infobox? Template:Infobox university does not list this as one of its parameters, and "flagship" isn't mentioned in any of the articles you've added it to. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:36, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

The Carnegie Classification for TCU is mentioned in first section in the body of the text. If I added "flagship" to the TCU page that was in error. But overall, I was adding it because I had seen it on other university pages so I thought it was a parameter. If this is not the case then it can be removed for other pages. I will not add this as well in the future. Vns08121721 (talk) 19:39, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree that "flagship" is not often a good or useful designation to add to many articles. It's often an unofficial designation subject to a lot of wrangling and argument.
 * On another topic: If you are interested in adding or updating the "campus" parameter so it says something about the location of the campus (and not just the area of the campus), I strongly recommend sticking with the "Campus setting" designation in IPEDS for U.S. institutions. For example, here is what the federal government says about the campus setting for Emory University, an article that you recently edited. ElKevbo (talk) 00:20, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Ah thats helpful actually. Thanks for the reference. I'll start using that moving forward to have more standardized classifications. Most of what I have been editing I've just been seeing on other pages but every page seems to be different. Vns08121721 (talk) 05:27, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I disagree - the IPEDS descriptions are rather strange - how is "distant town" more informative than college town? What the heck does "distant town" even mean? Distant from what or where? And I disagree that "large city" is more helpful than "urban." A college can be in a large city,but not in an urban setting. Wholesale changes of this kind to long-standing terminology should be done with consensus, and should represent informative material rather than a literal plugging-in of a database query. Acroterion   (talk)   22:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * These classifications are well-defined and transparent, especially considering that the type that is used in many of these articles is unsourced original research.
 * I recommend moving this discussion to the infobox's Talk page and placing a note at WT:UNI; this is a bit out-of-the way if we're expecting other editors to contribute. ElKevbo (talk) 22:46, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree that this should be discussed, at a centra llocation, beforehand,and I'min favor of removing OR, but not at the cost of using opaque jargon like "distant city." As far as I'm concerned, "urban" is far more descriptive than telling us the obvious, that Atlanta is a large city. The environments at Emory and Georgia Tech are very different,even though they're technically in the same large city. The words we use should have meaning.  Acroterion   (talk)   22:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

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Colors in the infobox
Hello, regarding your comment here: only add if both the university and athletics departments use the same color codes (you can often find them on their brand websites) - if they aren't the same, we need to keep them separate as it's misleading information. For example, the University of Kansas uses the same hex codes as defined by their websites (university, athletics); however Tulane University uses different hex codes per the references in their respective infoboxes (university brand, athletics brand). References should be directly from their brand guides. If they're not the same, the athletics colors are entered into Module:College color/data and university colors are manually entered in the style we have it at the Tulane article... this is for uniformity in both university and athletic articles.

Also, just because a university may use every color in the rainbow for the brand's color palette, doesn't mean those are the "school colors" and should not be entered into a Wikipedia article. School colors are found in their athletics team media guides and sometimes on the university website under 'Traditions' or their athletics page. Corky 00:41, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Will keep this in mind. Vns08121721 (talk) 20:19, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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Unclear if UCAR is appropriate for the academic affiliation parameter
You've recently added UCAR to the "academic_affiliation" parameter of the university infobox of several articles. That parameter is intended for affiliations that "provide essential definition of the institution (mission, values, activities, etc.)." I'm not sure if that affiliation meets that criterion. Does it? ElKevbo (talk) 21:19, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I had seen it on other articles and was going back and forth about it. Wasn't consistently listed everywhere so I started updating them. I think it's reasonable to leave it off as it is really only focused in one area of research. It can be mentioned elsewhere in the body of the article. Vns08121721 (talk) 21:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick and helpful reply!
 * There are probably some other entries in the same parameter of many articles that also don't belong and should be removed; I'm not familiar enough with many of the organizations to know for sure (but they don't appear likely to satisfy the criterion for the parameter). If you know more about them and are sure that they don't meet the criterion, please feel to remove them, too. ElKevbo (talk) 21:33, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! Will go back and remove the ones I just added Vns08121721 (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

July 2023
Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Columbia University, you may be blocked from editing. Sundayclose (talk) 12:17, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I won't go back to fix these now, but many of the edits you reversed were either just simple alphabetization/format chanages (which wouldn't have a reference?) or referenced within the article(s) itself with references. Not sure how this is inappropriate but noted. Vns08121721 (talk) 14:56, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, I fixed some of my errors. I'll review them again. If it's not sourced in the article, it doesn't go in the infobox. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 15:07, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

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University of Missouri
Please do not repeatedly remove well-sourced content without first reading and understanding it. “Missouri State University” was the name of the University of Missouri for a period of several decades in the 1800s and 1900s. This is sourced using the most authoritative author on early University of Missouri history, William Switzler. Barring that, you could use google, read any of the general histories of the university, or visit the Missouri State capitol where, in 1911, the name was carved in stone inside the west wing on south side. The nickname "Mizzou" is a pronunciation contraction of MSU, called clipping by etymologist. The reference does not need to be updated and is the best available imo; I'm a professional historian focused on Missouri. Grey Wanderer (talk) 22:00, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I did read the attached reference, and it did not mention this. It did reference and interchangably use "State University" for "University of Missouri." It also seemed to acknowledge that "State University" wasn't the official name of the university. A reference specifically saying "Missouri State University" was an official name for a period of time and what those dates were before it was officially changed was all I was trying to ask for. But, I'll just take your word for it. Maybe I missed that or misread something. Vns08121721 (talk) 00:16, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Should also put the years it was named "Missouri State University" officially as well for completeness. But, again I defer to you. Vns08121721 (talk) 00:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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