User talk:VocalIndia/Archive 1

Speedy deletion nomination of Zhunti Daoren


A tag has been placed on Zhunti Daoren requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.alamy.com/a-mythical-character-in-the-classic-ming-dynasty-novel-fengshen-yanyi-zhun-ti-daoren-was-a-saintly-figure-said-to-have-come-from-the-west-the-land-of-buddhism-he-brought-with-him-the-wisdom-and-teachings-of-the-buddha-enlightening-the-people-of-the-shang-dynasty-he-rode-on-a-carriage-pulled-by-the-famous-wisdom-peacock-mahamayuri-son-of-the-phoenix-image344278123.html. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.  Onel 5969  TT me 15:26, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ughh! I'm sorry. It is just only very short two sentences and a little stub article. I did not know that copying into two lines violated the copyright. However I will create again without previous copyrighted content. Thanks VocalIndia (talk) 13:43, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Update I recreated better version without copyvio. Pls kindly review my article if you Ok. Best regard. VocalIndia (talk) 14:14, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , no worries, fixed now. Nice job.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:56, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Chen Jinggu moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Chen Jinggu, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. – AssumeGoodWraith  (talk | contribs) 12:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * wait! being a stub article is not a problem? Pls kindly nominate for deletion if you disagree. When i came back, sure i will complain to you. VocalIndia (talk) 12:04, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's about the lack of sources, not the stub. Also, what does that last sentence mean? – AssumeGoodWraith  (talk | contribs) 12:29, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As popular national goddess, you can easily search her million source on Google. Why do not find it yourself? VocalIndia (talk) 12:32, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Please stop
Please take a step back from the current issue at hand and look at your edits. You're currently blocked from editing for personal attacks against other editors. DanCherek pointed some of these out - you called other editors "dogs", "jealous [dogs]" , having a "poor mind" , "useless" , and "disgusting".

Your inability to have civil discussions could lead to you having a indefinite block which nobody really wants, however, it's currently trending that way.

I believe that some of this may be due to a language barrier and if that's the case I apologize for the difficulty of what you're going through, however, there are other versions of Wikipedia that you can edit and do so in your native language. Dusti*Let's talk!* 15:52, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi sorry for my anger. I'm now learned and controlled my anger. Pls kindly give me for a chance and let's see in the future. This is my very first lesson. I can change. VocalIndia (talk) 16:26, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless an admin finds the need to unblock you early, at the moment your block will likely remain in place for at least one week. I'm not an admin so I cannot unblock you. D<b style="color:#F60">u</b><b style="color:#090">s</b><b style="color:#00F">t</b><b style="color:#60C">i</b>*Let's talk!* 16:28, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes I know. I went the wrong way because i think i was bullied by admin . Moreover I've heated because no one is on my side. I'm still quiet since one day after i've blocked. I can change if you (all) teach me what is right way on Wiki. VocalIndia (talk) 16:32, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When my block expired after 1 week, I'll be new one and cool. This is my very first time to block in Wikipedia. I've learned many from community. I'll change. I've happily accepted your decision on me because I was wrong. Rude gay can change to cool gay. VocalIndia (talk) 16:36, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Chen Jinggu


The page Chen Jinggu has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://muse.jhu.edu/article/734827 etc (my mistake, this is not rescuable). For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at Deletion Review Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:30, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Really? That contents were taken from Guanyin, see that page's edit history for attribution (WP:CWW). This is not my violation but Guanyin's! What wrong with me? Really need to delete the whole article? You should only remove copyvio contents that came from Guanyin article. Clearly that is not my violation.  I already showed my explanation in the page's edit history for attribution (WP:CWW). Please kindly restore as a original stub or the whole article (I will rephrase). VocalIndia (talk) 04:29, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Umm? "Chen is one of the most important goddesses in Southeast China. or Chief deity of Lüshan sect" is copyvio? Why? So "Mohini Deskina is the chair of Indian Flim Org" or "Ali Khan is one of most popular actors of the Southern India alongside blah blah!" is also copyrighted issue?

What the hell It is a simple one sentence introduction. All Chinese known that Chen is chief of Lüshan sect. What wrong? What a bullying?. Everything are copyrighted ?. Knowledge from my mind is not copyrighted. Nonsense ! VocalIndia (talk) 04:49, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I would like to mention man of justice for example his decision at Talk:Daruka. VocalIndia (talk) 05:06, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry I just seen you are trying to help me. You are good. I don't know that. Thank you so much. Original introduction is not copyvio and other editors has been edited in past. Pls restore the whole article...my rephrasing skill is not bad.  VocalIndia (talk) 05:24, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * VocalIndia, as you may have seen, I tried to save that page – I undeleted it thinking that I could do that. When I found that even the opening sentences contained copyvios I had no alternative but to re-delete it. Here's a comparison of part of your text with this article:


 * That is much too similar to the source text, an unacceptable degree of copying. What you need to do in this project is not to rephrase the source(s) (which can give rise to a derivative work), but write entirely new text using only your own words. You've already had a number of warnings about this; please make very certain not to repeat these mistakes in the future. I did see that you had correctly attributed the stuff copied from Guanyin, and it's definitely not your fault that the text in that article turned out to be a copyvio. Take care, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:20, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ammm... "a historical shaman priestess who became one of the most important Fujian goddesses and chief deity of the Lüshan Sect" it is a very minor. It is don't led to a violation as I known. Opinion may be the same in general. Will we accept the ANI decision? If the contents are copyright infringement, Many Wikipedia articles that use the text like "one of the most popular blah blah" will be deleted. Really nonsense! public known facts are not copyrighted. According to my experience on Wikipedia, I believe it is not enough for copyright violation.VocalIndia (talk) 17:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * She is

all people can writing these facts. Normal sentence structure is copyrighted on Wikipedia. lol What a great joke. I did not have the right to write such a truth. I dont believe that general sentence structure styles or words are copyrighted. Let's go to ANI, if they decided this was my mistake, sure i will left from Wikipedia. I know you are an admin however If I am right, no one is afraid. 😇 VocalIndia (talk) 17:43, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * a historical shaman priestess ✅ (correct) If she is not shaman priestess so is she a sugar monny?❌
 * one of the most important Fujian goddesses ✅ (correct) All Chinese and worshipers known this fact. i don't mention that "important goddesses in Southeast China" I mentioned as Fujan goddess.
 * chief deity of the Lüshan Sect ✅ (correct) if she not, Chen is a chief of beggar sect?
 * VocalIndia, your comments show a fundamental and worrying failure to understand what we mean by copyright. You have a very simple choice here: either you attempt to understand our copyright policy, agree to abide by it, and accept advice on how to follow it when such advice is offered; or – sooner or later – you will lose your editing privileges. Because that is, I'm afraid, what happens to those who cannot or will not adhere to our policies. If you have questions you may ask them here. If you want a second opinion on the stuff you copied from the Asian Theatre Journal you could perhaps try asking one of the other admins who has warned you on this page about copying or copyright. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No! I'm very experienced editor I know everything about the rules of Wikipedia. No... i've only one warning for copyright in very old past in Queen Mother of the West. Other are misunderstood of them, read it again. This one  is warned me for copyvio. Unfortunately it is not my violation that came from Guanyin article. I've tagged for attribution (WP:CWW). This one  also misunderstood.  VocalIndia (talk) 18:14, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * So other way, I created with this intro "Chen is a goddess and shaman, one of the most popular Fujin goddesses" It will be copyright violation because of the wrote in sources? It is a very short one sentence. How is goes to copyright violation ? It make nonsense. If I've copied three sentences at least fron other sources, sure it is a copyright violation. Should be banned from Wikipedia. VocalIndia (talk) 18:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Is it a big sin to have a few words in common?. VocalIndia (talk) 18:39, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * pls kindly judge on our dispute. I'll accept your decision. Thanks VocalIndia (talk) 18:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure exactly what you want me to judge but I can't see the main sources linked by Justlettersandnumbers so I can't really offer a useful opinion on this. If you copied content from an existing Wikipedia article written by someone else which turned out to be a copyvio then that's not your fault though.  Hut 8.5  19:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As you are one of my sensei(s) and oldest admins, I want to ping you for the last time. This is eligible for copyright violation ? VocalIndia (talk) 16:56, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Chen Jinggu


A tag has been placed on Chen Jinggu requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://archive.org/stream/ABriefHistoryOfTheImmortalsPostPublishing12012016/A+Brief+History+of+the+Immortals++%28Post+publishing%29+-+12-01-2016_djvu.txt. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:50, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Before sending this message, you should check the origin of these content. ! It's obvious you finding my mistake as much as you can. 😂😂😂 Shame on you. VocalIndia (talk) 04:41, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

January 2022
<div class="user-block" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px"> You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. -- TNT (talk • she/her) 04:57, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * As I noted at ANI, your behaviour has been well below the expectations we have for all our contributors. Use this week to reflect on your temper and how better to control it—we all lose it from time to time, but you can (and should) find other things to do in these cases -- TNT (talk • she/her) 05:02, 19 January 2022 (UTC)>


 * , i happly accept your action on me because i was wrong. Currently I'm in discussion. I need to reply them. How can i reply? VocalIndia (talk) 05:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The AN/I thread will likely be closed as you've been blocked—any outstanding comments you wish to make would need to wait until you're unblocked, but I caution you to reconsider what you wish to say. It may be best to come back after a week and find a new topic to edit for a little while, find the calm in Wikipedia instead of going back to that place? Just a suggestion -- TNT (talk • she/her) 05:06, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I want to reply this to User:Curbon7, ", For Prince Euneon, yes the article was unsourced, then editor removed the article because lack of source. And I've added a source to the article and restored back. I've also tagged to the article. Clearly I've saved the article. Isn't that a good job? Thank you for criticizing me. Yeah!! I'm very sensitive on auto (default) notable issue like king/queen and minister. I don't think it makes sense to put AfD. For my anger, I will careful in the future. Thanks. VocalIndia (talk) 05:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)]] " . VocalIndia (talk) 05:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

To Farm
Is Princess Tatiana Alexandrovna Yusupova an unattributed? I explained and tagged in talk page Talk:Princess Tatiana Alexandrovna Yusupova. VocalIndia (talk) 10:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * For Huang Tianhua, I created that with 80% of my own words. It is not a big problem. For Hong Guk-yeong, i was forgot to show attribution (WP:CWW). For Hold Nickar, I copied these content from AfD. VocalIndia (talk) 11:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * report on Earwig's Copyvio Detector. report on CopyPatrol. not likely copyright violation. Trying to bullying me again. Thanks VocalIndia (talk) 11:45, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Again! Your are wrong accusing on me. For Heifeng Guai, I copied content from List of Journey to the West characters not from Facebook Game page. Sorry I'm forgot to show attribution (WP:CWW) at Edit summary. FB post is a WP:MIRROR of Wiki. VocalIndia (talk) 11:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your false accusations seem to be killing me. VocalIndia (talk) 11:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi TNT, When I'm in block, I was wrong accused by other at ANI. I need to explain for my right and Dignity. Pls kindly unblock me for temporarily. Current my situation is like "You are tied me up and gossiping about me in front of me." It is not fair on me. I need a Justice. VocalIndia (talk) 12:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * My current wiki situation is

""Wind blows where there is fire."- The fire burning on the house gets stronger with more destructive power when the wind blows around it. This is a metaphor to troubled times made more problematic by outside interference."

. No one answer my question but personal hate of many are come.! VocalIndia (talk) 16:20, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As you were already instructed, if you wish to be unblocked, follow WP:UNBLOCK to request one. That said, between the documented personal attacks that got you blocked, and the way you keep yelling at people and demanding things from your talk page, you're probably closer to losing your ability to edit your own talk page for the rest of your block than you are to getting an unblock already. Sergecross73   msg me  17:49, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Ok I will shup up now. VocalIndia (talk) 18:36, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Huang Tianhua
VocalIndia, based on this, I've blanked Huang Tianhua and listed it at WP:CP for investigation and clean-up. This handwritten note is instead of the usual large and invasive notification template. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes As you like you can happily. Karma will return. yes the article information are depending on that source. I've reworded with my own words as you said above like "Pls write entirely new text using only your own words". VocalIndia (talk) 16:04, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok you win. R u happy? VocalIndia (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Wait
pls wait until my comeback. I'll self-dp on Hold Nickar. TIA VocalIndia (talk) 06:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Hold Nickar for deletion
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Publishing AfC submissions out-of-process
Hi, VocalIndia. I noticed that you've been moving a number of AfC submissions to mainspace either after they were declined or even while they were still pending review. While there is no policy against this, it is rarely a good idea, and I would implore you to be much more cautious about when you do so. Of your four recent ones, I've reverted two: Of the other two, I came close to moving Rantideva back but decided against it (although only after removing copyright violations from the article, something an AfC reviewer would check for and which you should have too). And then with Kalki Jayanti, yeah, I'll give you that one, it has issues but in my opinion should have been accepted. (I note that the person to decline its final version was in fact a banned sockpuppet, so maybe that explains that.)
 * Draft:Kalyan Swami is a recreation of content that an AfD had previously found non-notable. For that to be reversed, either Deletion review would have to overturn that conclusion, or an AfC reviewer would have to feel confident that the draft does not have the same issues the previous article did.
 * Draft:Vrkasura is, simply, nowhere near ready to be an article, and was unlikely to survive AfD in its current state. It hadn't even been reviewed once, so by moving it you take away its creator's chance to receive constructive feedback from the AfC team.

Again, please be more careful in the future if you're going to do this sort of thing. AfC exists for a reason, so if you're going to go around it, you should have a good reason for doing so. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 03:44, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for informing me. I don't know about the AfD result of Draft:Kalyan Swami. I accepted the article because he was a religious figure in history. Sorry ! For Draft:Vrkasura, as I'm an Indian, I know that the asura is notable and important mythological demon. I hope the article will accept through the AfC process. I'll careful in the future. Thanks. VocalIndia (talk) 14:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , thanks for taking the time to explain the issue to this user. This is still a recurrent problem two months later, most recently at Prince Hwaui, which got sent back to draft and immediately brought back to mainspace while ignoring the AfC process. Circumventions of the AfC process also happened in February at Yi Han-eung, Kang Hoon (diff), and Zhu Mo (diff). Clearly intentional, disruptive behavior. Pilaz (talk) 03:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * To some extent I sympathize with VocalIndia here, in that I think a lot of questionable draftifications do happen, and I think the draftification of Prince Hwaui (content at time of draftification) is a good example of one. That said, @VocalIndia:
 * Please stop publishing drafts that you didn't create. Just, stop. If you think a decision to draftify was incorrect, raise the matter with the editor who draftified. Under WP:DRAFTOBJECT they are supposed to move it back; if they don't, follow appropriate steps of dispute resolution. Meanwhile, if someone else has created an AfC draft, and you improve it, that's great, but it should still await AfC review.
 * Much more importantly than any of that, your edit summaries at Special:PageHistory/Prince Hwaui are utterly unacceptable. I understand that you were upset, and, like I said, I agree with you that it was a bad draftification, but it is never okay to speak to other editors like that. You have already been blocked once for similar conduct under similar circumstances. If you wind up at ANI over this again, the next block will likely be much longer, maybe indefinite. Civility is a core policy here, one of our five pillars.
 * -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Publishing AfC submissions out-of-process
Hi, VocalIndia. I noticed that you've been moving a number of AfC submissions to mainspace either after they were declined or even while they were still pending review. While there is no policy against this, it is rarely a good idea, and I would implore you to be much more cautious about when you do so. Of your four recent ones, I've reverted two: Of the other two, I came close to moving Rantideva back but decided against it (although only after removing copyright violations from the article, something an AfC reviewer would check for and which you should have too). And then with Kalki Jayanti, yeah, I'll give you that one, it has issues but in my opinion should have been accepted. (I note that the person to decline its final version was in fact a banned sockpuppet, so maybe that explains that.)
 * Draft:Kalyan Swami is a recreation of content that an AfD had previously found non-notable. For that to be reversed, either Deletion review would have to overturn that conclusion, or an AfC reviewer would have to feel confident that the draft does not have the same issues the previous article did.
 * Draft:Vrkasura is, simply, nowhere near ready to be an article, and was unlikely to survive AfD in its current state. It hadn't even been reviewed once, so by moving it you take away its creator's chance to receive constructive feedback from the AfC team.

Again, please be more careful in the future if you're going to do this sort of thing. AfC exists for a reason, so if you're going to go around it, you should have a good reason for doing so. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 03:44, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for informing me. I don't know about the AfD result of Draft:Kalyan Swami. I accepted the article because he was a religious figure in history. Sorry ! For Draft:Vrkasura, as I'm an Indian, I know that the asura is notable and important mythological demon. I hope the article will accept through the AfC process. I'll careful in the future. Thanks. VocalIndia (talk) 14:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , thanks for taking the time to explain the issue to this user. This is still a recurrent problem two months later, most recently at Prince Hwaui, which got sent back to draft and immediately brought back to mainspace while ignoring the AfC process. Circumventions of the AfC process also happened in February at Yi Han-eung, Kang Hoon (diff), and Zhu Mo (diff). Clearly intentional, disruptive behavior. Pilaz (talk) 03:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * To some extent I sympathize with VocalIndia here, in that I think a lot of questionable draftifications do happen, and I think the draftification of Prince Hwaui (content at time of draftification) is a good example of one. That said, @VocalIndia:
 * Please stop publishing drafts that you didn't create. Just, stop. If you think a decision to draftify was incorrect, raise the matter with the editor who draftified. Under WP:DRAFTOBJECT they are supposed to move it back; if they don't, follow appropriate steps of dispute resolution. Meanwhile, if someone else has created an AfC draft, and you improve it, that's great, but it should still await AfC review.
 * Much more importantly than any of that, your edit summaries at Special:PageHistory/Prince Hwaui are utterly unacceptable. I understand that you were upset, and, like I said, I agree with you that it was a bad draftification, but it is never okay to speak to other editors like that. You have already been blocked once for similar conduct under similar circumstances. If you wind up at ANI over this again, the next block will likely be much longer, maybe indefinite. Civility is a core policy here, one of our five pillars.
 * -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello VocalIndia! Your additions to Prince Euneon have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.


 * You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
 * Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Close paraphrasing. Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
 * We have strict guidelines on the usage of copyrighted images. Fair use images must meet all ten of the non-free content criteria in order to be used in articles, or they will be deleted. To be used on Wikipedia, all other images must be made available under a free and open copyright license that allows commercial and derivative reuse.
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 * Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps described at Copying within Wikipedia. See also Help:Translation.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When I said I have no copyright issue on Wikipedia above discussion, poorly or intentionally you searching my mistake quickly from my old contributions. What a poor mind. Well well...please kindly continue to search my violations. "Outside is white, ineer is black". I've retired from Wikipedia forever. I believe I did nothing wrong before you searched my mistake. 😇 Inner peace. I'm very pity poor mind guy. VocalIndia (talk) 16:14, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Before i retire, let me tell a poor joke,

Please be civil
Hello, VocalIndia,

Please leave constructive edit summaries, not ones like you left at Prince Hwaui. It's natural to have disagreements here over editing decisions but please do not lash out or insult other editors. We're all trying to do our best and other editors are people, too. If you have a specific complaint, bring it to an editor's user talk page, do not conduct a discussion or argument through edit summaries. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:08, 10 March 2022 (UTC)


 * You can do so if you think it's suitable, I'd like to see how the editor responds first. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Bullying to newbie is not acceptable case. I'm great article defender from evil editors. I didn't insult other but i insult myself like "dog like me". So I mean I'm a dog. I've learned many from past block, so i will not insult to other but I will insult myself. Insulting myself is a mistake ? No... I own myself. All people own their self. By the way, I'm so pity to Pilaz, he want to revenge me for the past problems at AfD. He always find and see my mistake. Are you my vip Spy?. Good job. Pls kindly continue to find my mistake and continue agitate. Most of your contributions are focusing my case and about.🤣 If you have many free time, pls go to library. Don't waste your golden time on me. Thanks for you being my  paparazzi. 🥰 VocalIndia (talk) 05:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You are not a newbie editor: you've made 4.5k edits since 2019. Stop using personal attacks, calling other volunteer editors "evil" or "dogs" like you did in response to my complaint. Please take this warning seriously, or we'll be going back to WP:ANI. Pilaz (talk) 13:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not newbie. I mean newbie is User talk:16272js. I want to help Wikipedia as well., pls kindly stay away from me... Please... i dont want any problem with you. Pls stop tracking my activities. I want to apologize you. I'm a solo editor who didn't accept injustice case. For this! I did not mention name as you. Pls be still cool. VocalIndia (talk) 13:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * None of this conversation was about User talk:16272js. Calling other editors "Evil editors" goes against WP:CIVILITY. As for the last message, who was it for, exactly? Pilaz (talk) 14:19, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * And can you care to explain what you meant by "clean a trash" in your edit summary, when you deleted my comment? Pilaz (talk) 14:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually Prine Huawu article was created by 16272js. As for i deleted your comment, If honestly admitted, I hate you so much in past because i thought you are tracking my edits and then against me every time. That's why i dont want to see any comments from you. For now, after many considering and relaxed my mind with this, not anymore. As a sensitive gay, I can't control my mind sometime. Pls forgive me. Sorry for my misunderstood on you. My English is not good. I hope you will understand. VocalIndia (talk) 15:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * VocalIndia, perhaps one thing getting lost in translation here is the meaning of some of these terms? In English, calling someone a "dog", or "trash", or "evil" are all considered very serious insults, not the sort of things people usually say even in the heat of the moment. Perhaps some of those limits are arbitrary, but it's very important to understand them. And I worry that, through these heated reactions, you're causing people to prejudge against you and assume you're wrong about the facts of the matter—where, again, I do think you have something of a point here. But using these kinds of words hurts your own case. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 16:07, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
Slywriter (talk) 14:30, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Result is "No". It was false accused. So you need to apologies me. VocalIndia (talk) 16:25, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Joyous Season
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I wish that you may have a very Happy Holiday! Whether you celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Hogmanay, Festivus or your hemisphere's Solstice, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! May the New Year provide you joy and fulfillment! Thanks for everything you do here. Htanaungg (talk) 11:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to your fellow editors' talk pages.

Htanaungg (talk) 11:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Have a great holiday.🥳 VocalIndia (talk) 17:45, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Maya king
Thank you for “defending” article I wrote! It’s an article about a Maya ruler. 🙂 P. S. I see you’re a gay from a traditional Indian family. As a someone quite liberal regarding sexuality, living in more liberal part of the world, I fully support your decision to be as free as possible. It’s a personal message, but I believe you‘ll understand. Miha (talk) 23:45, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank. You are very kind. VocalIndia (talk) 01:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)