User talk:VoidWanderer/Archive2018 1

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Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! Kges1901 (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the greeting! --VoidWanderer (talk) 18:46, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Military History
 Hello,, you are hereby invited to join the Military history WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to military history, theory, and practice. You can add your name to the list of members, browse our showcase, train at the Academy, weigh in at current discussions, read the news, or find an open task. We hope you will join us! Kges1901 (talk) 07:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for invitation! Signed up. --VoidWanderer (talk) 11:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to MILHIST
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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask any of the project coordinators or any other experienced member of the project, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome, and we are looking forward to seeing you around! Anotherclown (talk) 23:30, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

17th Guards Tank Brigade
Do you have a source for the renaming of the 17th Guards Tank Brigade? Kges1901 (talk) 23:05, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Most Ukrainian military units have the 'Guards' title. For example, 51st Mechanized Brigade, 30th Mechanized Brigade, etc. But for the sake of readability the article's names miss that title, just like the most other decorations (orders and other honorable titles). It adds literally nothing in terms of sense, so it makes sense to drop that. --VoidWanderer (talk) 23:14, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't do this, please, without a discussion at a major-watched talk page. "Guards" is a standard inclusion in fSU formation titles, to distinguish those units from non-Guards units. They have very jealously coveted history, that should be explained about WHY they gained a Guards title, - significant amounts in terms of sense, if the history is properly written out. Buckshot06 (talk) 22:34, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Like I've said before, there are many other decorations that were received with hard work and blood. But in this discussion I'm appealing only for consistency. It'd be a good practice to rename all the articles (to name a few, 51st Mechanized Brigade, 30th Mechanized Brigade) that have 'Guards' title accordingly. If there's a real need to do it. --VoidWanderer (talk) 22:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Unreferenced stubs
VoidWanderer, thank you for your contributions. However, when you created articles such as 331st Airborne Regiment (Russia), you need to add references to ensure WP:VERIFIABILITY. Also, standard naming convention for Russian military units is to include the Guards title in the page name. Kges1901 (talk) 09:01, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll update the articles soon.--VoidWanderer (talk) 10:50, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Military Unit Number
As you'll see from the Holm site and Russian wikipedia, these should be listed immediately after the title of the unit, eg '27th Guards Sevastopol Motor Rifle Brigade (Military Unit Number (V/Ch) xxxxx'. Please do add them in the definition sentence. The Holm site lists changes of V/Chs, and these are a big deal, so should also be added to the text of the article. Many thanks for creating the page!! Buckshot06 (talk) 10:22, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the appreciation. But let me clarify something - the Military Unit Number shouldn't be listed immediately. It's not a rule. It's just another approach of identification of a unit. But, like you've already mentioned, this unique ID of a unit may be changed - it's just another way to keep things secret. Especially during Soviet times. The relatives of a soldier could not even knew back then where he's serving and in what particular unit. All they knew was that single number (code), and they had sent letters there. This should be clarified in the article, of course, but I can't express it properly right now. Can't find the proper wording. --VoidWanderer (talk) 10:56, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Mate, wikipedia follows the published sources. We, especially in the fSU military units and formations field, have been assiduous in making sure we follow as closely as possible the conventions of people like David Glantz and John Erickson, not to mention Vitaly Feskov, who are the world published experts in this field. That gives the articles credibility, instead of just being another fanboy website. Now, Michael Holm has done the world a service and made sure all these numbers are transcribed from Feskov et al 2013 and available for us to insert. If you're not going to follow the world standard published source conventions, I need to know now. (I do not mean that I expect you to spend hours immediately inserting every V/Ch in the definition sentence; adding them all in with the links will take a while.)
 * Regarding the V/Ch itself, yes, of course; I did read Suvorov/Rezin's Inside the Soviet Army many years ago now, and I know this. Suvorov/Rezin harped on security considerably. The wording you're reaching for is reasonably clear in the Russian wikipedia article, which I've GTranslated a couple of times. Also about the distinction between four-digit MVD units and five-digit MOD units. Buckshot06 (talk) 12:46, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear: I am the Russian-speaking person, and sometimes it's hard for me to make a well-said English sentence. --VoidWanderer (talk) 12:54, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election
Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway, and as a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 23 September. For the Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:00, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Voting for the Military history WikiProject Historian and Newcomer of the Year is ending soon!
Time is running out to voting for the Military Historian and Newcomer of the year! If you have not yet cast a vote, please consider doing so soon. The voting will end on 31 December at 23:59 UTC, with the presentation of the awards to the winners and runners up to occur on 1 January 2017. For the Military history WikiProject Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:01, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

This message was sent as a courtesy reminder to all active members of the Military History WikiProject.

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Pending changes reviewer granted
Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:
 * Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
 * Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
 * Protection policy, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators. Widr (talk) 07:02, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --VoidWanderer (talk) 07:05, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

March Madness 2017
G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:


 * tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
 * updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
 * creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:30 mechanized brigade (Ukraine)
Template:30 mechanized brigade (Ukraine) has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 13:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:24 mechanized brigade (Ukraine)
Template:24 mechanized brigade (Ukraine) has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 13:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:72 mechanized brigade (Ukraine)
Template:72 mechanized brigade (Ukraine) has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 13:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:17 tank brigade (Ukraine)
Template:17 tank brigade (Ukraine) has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Primefac (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

2017 Military history WikiProject Coordinator election
Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway. As a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 29 September. Thank you for your time. For the current tranche of Coordinators, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:1065 artillery regiment (Russia)
Template:1065 artillery regiment (Russia) has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 15:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting
As we approach the end of the year, the Military History project is looking to recognise editors who have made a real difference. Each year we do this by bestowing two awards: the Military Historian of the Year and the Military History Newcomer of the Year. The co-ordinators invite all project members to get involved by nominating any editor they feel merits recognition for their contributions to the project. Nominations for both awards are open between 00:01 on 2 December 2017 and 23:59 on 15 December 2017. After this, a 14-day voting period will follow commencing at 00:01 on 16 December 2017. Nominations and voting will take place on the main project talkpage: here and here. Thank you for your time. For the co-ordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

User group for Military Historians
Greetings,

"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:30, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive
G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:


 * tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
 * adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
 * updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
 * creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.

For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Wagner casualties in Eastern Ukraine
Could you join in on this discussion here Talk:Wagner Group? I left a message to Yulia Romero since it seemed to me at the time that you retired from Wikipedia. But I haven't gotten any reply from Yulia and I saw you were still editing from time to time. EkoGraf (talk) 16:10, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the question, replied there. --VoidWanderer (talk) 16:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:54, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2018 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:35, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Have your say!
Hi everyone, just a quick reminder that voting for the WikiProject Military history coordinator election closes soon. You only have a day or so left to have your say about who should make up the coordination team for the next year. If you have already voted, thanks for participating! If you haven't and would like to, vote here before 23:59 UTC on 28 September. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:29, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Nominations now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
Nominations for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards are open until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2018. Why don't you nominate the editors who you believe have made a real difference to the project in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
Voting for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards is open until 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December 2018. Why don't you vote for the editors who you believe have made a real difference to Wikipedia's coverage of military history in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)