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Automatic block signaling
I had also added the official website as well as the website you said was the reason for you deleting it but why when I had included a another score about overlaps on Automatic block signaling so why was it removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by I Like The british Rail Class 483 (talk • contribs) 14:45, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I am moving this content-related discussion to the article talk page so that others may weigh in if they wish. —  void  xor  15:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Automatic block signals ID plates
Automatic block signals ID plates are very important for working out weather a block signal is a manual block signal or a Semi-automatic Block Signal or Automatic Block Signal. I would say it is as important as knowing how it works. I Like The british Rail Class 483 (talk) 09:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I am moving this content-related discussion to the article talk page so that others may weigh in if they wish. —  void  xor  15:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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In response to your question...
... Because it seemed to be refspam, though it seems I was wrong. I do understand that new users don't always know the syntax, and, like you, I do clean up after them. If you are satisfied that it isn't refspam, I trust your judgement. Cheerio. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 07:46, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


 * It's all good. Only only meant as a rhetorical question to encourage you and others doing vandalism cleanup to slow down enough to recognize a test edit or good-faith attempt at citing. —   void  xor  18:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

your partial revert of my edit
At this edit, you left this edit summary: The Mediawiki engine switched from XHTML to HTML 5 ages ago.

Yes, but ...

MediaWiki replaces with. Don't believe me? Go to Architectural lighting design; Right-click → View page source; Ctrl-F for. I get 15 hits. Ctrl-F for ? no hits.

I don't change to  to make life easier for MediaWiki. I change to  because I use User:Remember the dot/Syntax highlighter. It isn't perfect but I like it a whole lot more than the syntax highlighter that is part of the WP:RefToolbar. Unclosed html and html-like tags tend to turn the whole edit window pink. I would be very surprised to learn that I am the only editor who prefers Remember the dot's highlighter.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:56, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Defensive much? —  void  xor  03:28, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:BRD right? I was bold, was reverted, and have attempted to discuss.  Instead of good faith discussion I got deflection/rejection by argumentum ad hominem.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Then maybe don't use language like "Don't believe me?". I reverted based on my understanding that I had gotten from another admin. It was you who started the confrontational tone. If you want an argument based on substance, then fine; I'll quote directly from the page you linked: "For performance reasons, the highlighter requires all tags to be valid XML." So in other words, it predates the HTML5 switch. Want another substantive argument? See MOS:MARKUP; extraneous markup confuses and intimidates other editors, especially the new ones.
 * But the fact of the matter is that you've made me stop caring. I didn't want to argue more (especially about two characters of syntax) yet here we are. So to end it I pointed out the nature of your tone, rather than make factual arguments that you would feel compelled to respond to. Call it ad hominem if you like but I think that's an oversimplification. —  void  xor  16:24, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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Apologies if my comment was snarky or brash
Voidxor, I understand your frustration, and appreciate your mop-up efforts. I can be snarky sometimes, and apologize if that happened here as well. I assure you when I'm working on improving an article to GA or higher class, I have as strict of a standard about policy compliance as anybody else. For me it's a question of which is better for those imperfect stub and start class articles that have not yet had GAC or peer reviews: a short but sourced article that inadequately covers a subject, or an article that gives descent coverage of the subject, but lacks sources. In either case, the Wikipedia article isn't "the only article you need to read to learn about this subject" and a reader will have to look elsewhere, but for different reasons. I view the latter as the better (or perhaps less bad) option. However, I accept that those that have the other view are still trying to improve the encyclopedia and I didn't mean to clash with you over this stylistic difference, and look forward to working together in the future. Cheers, Dave (talk) 07:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't really feel you owe me an apology, but thank you for reaching out! For the record, I don't think that you were snarky or brash. When you claimed that citations aren't needed, it triggered some ugly déjà vu feelings in me and I may have been a little harsh in my reply. So in turn, I apologize for offloading on you.
 * I agree with your observation that Wikipedia should not be one's only source of information. Personally, I like to use Wikipedia as my jumping-off point and follow references to primary and secondary sources. Perhaps that's why I'm a little more anal about references existing. —  void  xor  17:20, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Userboxes
You may wish to join WikiProject Userboxes. Yours aye, Buaidh  talk e-mail 20:33, 11 February 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅, thanks. I ought to formally join more WikiProjects. —  void  xor  22:20, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

hello!!!
saying if you are good today --BoulevardBowl27 (talk) 08:10, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from Kankiriho P Tandeka (04:35, 28 April 2023)
How do we upload a profile picture on my account page --Kankiriho P Tandeka (talk) 04:35, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I've been assigned to be your mentor and should be available to help when you need it.
 * Getting new pictures on Wikipedia is unfortunately a little more involved than you would think. Generally, we upload the image file to Wikimedia Commons and link it from there. Try stepping through this tutorial and seeing if that helps. I would add that you cannot upload copyrighted images, though for your profile picture of yourself, that shouldn't be an issue. If you get stuck, feel free to follow up here on my talk page. —  void  xor  14:28, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Cramer
Hello, Voidxor. BURDEN is a bit much for the level of stock indexes that are published in tens of thousands of media every day. Yes, cn would be appropriate, but it's borderline WP:PEDANTRY to edit war claiming BURDEN. This content has been in the article for many years and no other editor has challenged it. As such it has a strong degree of consensus, and a citation-needed template would be sufficient. Or, of course, you could simply provide a citation. Please do the right thing. SPECIFICO talk 21:57, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter what it is; it needs a reference. That's WP:V—a core policy of ours. It already had a CN tag on it, did you not bother to look at that? I'm not edit warring. I reverted once; the limit is three times in 24 hours. Also, I reverted because I was following a policy that you weren't. Did you even read BURDEN? It's on you to add a citation, if you are so apt to believe that silly claim. Even if it's true, and even if you can cite it, I think it twists the facts and subtracts from the article. How do you not get that? "Do the right thing"? Shove off. I'm not in the mood for this kind of entrenched "we don't need no stinkin' citations" crap today. You were twisting facts on the article and now you're twisting facts on my talk page. —  void  xor  22:09, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Disappointing to see an experienced editor resort to rude personal disparagement, etc. Your interpretation of WP:V is incorrect, which is also unusual for a user of your long experience. SPECIFICO talk 22:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Then don't post manipulative messages (e.g. "please do the right thing") on editors' talk pages demanding that they ignore policy and do your bidding. I cited the relevant policy before you came here; you ignored that and then cited an essay (not a policy), arguing the opposite. It even says, "Note that this essay should never be cited in a dispute about whether or not a certain fact is true or not and should not be considered a replacement for the core content policies." —  void  xor  20:28, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Question from Ogwangobonyo (17:59, 4 May 2023)
Hello, am Alfred I wanted to write a biography how can I edit one? --Ogwangobonyo (talk) 17:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, Alfred, and welcome to Wikipedia! To clarify, are you wanting to edit a biography that already exists on Wikipedia, or create a new one? New ones can be started as a draft first, and later submitted for inclusion in the encyclopedia, but the subject must be notable enough to warrant his or her own article. Writing one about yourself is almost certainly not appropriate. —  void  xor  18:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

CAUGHTUP
Hi! I had already learned how to perform partial reversions, and indeed quite some time ago, but thank you for showing me that there's a pithy essay on the subject. I can see from it that I should have indicated more clearly that I didn't consider the other parts of your edit to be worth preserving either. Sorry! XAM2175 (T) 17:40, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


 * That's alright, thanks. I just like us editors to converge on compromise solutions a little more quickly. Sorry if I was snarky. —  void  xor  19:19, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Have you ever heard of
WP:BLAR? I don't appreciate your aggressive message. Dead-man's vigilance device has been known to be redundant since 2011. Furthermore, there's already an entire section in Dead-man's switch titled "Vigilance control" which has far more content than this pointless fork. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:49, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I have replied to your combative messages here. No need to have duplicate discussions. —  void  xor  22:21, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Request an account/ACC Wizard/CreationFailed (16:08, 6 August 2023)
I have tried for over 20 minutes to edit  a wikipedia about myself Richard Greene ( Politician) which contains misinformation or information out of date.I don't seem to be allowed to do this.Why?Richard Greene --Rnoelgreene (talk) 16:08, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Could you describe where you're getting stuck in more detail? Some articles are protected from editing, but Richard Greene (politician) is not. I see that you successfully created an account (though you technically don't need one to edit most articles) and were able to edit my user page here. So, it should be as simple as clicking the Edit button at the top of the article, making changes, and then saving changes. Since this is an article about yourself, please be sure to only remove or correct misinformation, per our conflict-of-interest policy. You can also request that somebody else make the necessary changes at the article's associated talk page, Talk:Richard Greene (politician). Either way, you'll want to declare that you are Richard Greene. —  void  xor  16:34, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Richard Greene (politician) (12:29, 7 August 2023)
I have edited my wikipedia, corrected some misinformation and corrected mistakes. I would be grateful if they would now be published. Kind regards, Richard Greene --Rnoelgreene (talk) 12:29, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Richard Greene (politician) (12:32, 7 August 2023)
Why have my edits have not been used or  my page updated --Rnoelgreene (talk) 12:32, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Richard Greene (politician) (19:18, 7 August 2023)
I wish you to publish what I now have edited. Richard Greene --Rnoelgreene (talk) 19:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Richard Greene (politician) (19:36, 7 August 2023)
I wish you publish my edits --Rnoelgreene (talk) 19:36, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Richard Greene (politician) (10:46, 8 August 2023)
The information about me and the Irish National Congress is not accurate. I have tried to edit proper and truthful information and seems to me you won't publish the truth.The foundational meeting of the Irish National Congress took place on September 9th 1989 in Buswell's Hotel,Dublin where I persuaded all factions of the Republican movement including Gerry Adams,members of the O'Bradaigh family and many others to stop the internecine killings, mayhem and atrocities  in the six counties at that time.It seems you either don't want this meeting publicised,but by not you are giving false information about  the Irish National Congress and how it came about and why it came about and was founded for.Richard Greene --Rnoelgreene (talk) 10:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Richard Greene (politician) (22:21, 8 August 2023)
I am trying to correct misinformation in Richard Greene (Politician)about the Founding of the Irish National Congress which occurred on September 9th 1989 which was attended by about 100 people, was filmed,journalists present and yet each time I edit and correct misinformation or information that should  be there,it disappears.Why? --Rnoelgreene (talk) 22:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay, now I can see your edits, but they have been reverted multiple times due to lacking citation and violating the COI policy, which is happening for obvious reasons in this case. I realize this is frustrating to you, but we do have processes in place meant to curb vandalism and misinformation and I think you are running into those. Let me look into the situation so that I can help you to remove the misinformation at least.
 * There's really no reason to keep leaving repeated messages on my user talk page at the moment. I'm investigating the situation and will let you know within the hour. But, these are internal Wikipedia processes that need to play out. —  void  xor  23:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I see that you've already had some of our policies and procedures explained to you on your user talk page. Please read those comments closely, as I was about to tell you much the same thing (as your assigned mentor on Wikipedia and as somebody with 18 years of editing experience here). Again, ! Instead, make a request on that article's talk page.
 * There is no more reason to keep leaving messages about this issue on my user talk page. However, I will remain your assigned mentor and available for basic questions about editing other articles. I only check Wikipedia perhaps three times a week. —  void  xor  00:13, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on User:Tacyarg (22:25, 9 August 2023)
I have repeatedly tried to correct misinformation or biased information on Richard Greene politician who is me.I am upfront about who I am but those who are replying to me are anonymous and seemed determined  not allow me change or add new  correct information to my Wikipedia as I am Richard Greene(politician) Richard Greene, Dublin Ireland. What is going here,is it censorship of the truth? --Rnoelgreene (talk) 22:25, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I've already replied to you above. Please stop leaving me messages about this. You've already been told here, on your user talk page that you are out of line with our policies by adding claims to an article without also providing suitable references. Please stop blaming others and stop doing the same thing over and over again, and instead actually read what we're telling you. Also, you cannot edit the article about yourself; you must leave a request on the article's talk page. —  void  xor  23:59, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rnoelgreene on Help:Introduction to editing with VisualEditor/5 (11:41, 12 August 2023)
I have tried repeatedly to correct misinformation in a wikipedia about myself(Irish National Congress)but seem to be prevented from doing so. --Rnoelgreene (talk) 11:41, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Abbeymaguire (07:09, 16 August 2023)
hi, how do i publish a page thats in my sandbox? i have created a page but when i click publish it says not stash content found --Abbeymaguire (talk) 07:09, 16 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, Abbey, and a slightly belated "Welcome to Wikipedia"! Sorry for my delayed response. It looks like you've figured this out, though, by publishing Rozana Montiel and Julia Gamolina. Good work! If you need any further assistance, please reply here. See also About the sandbox, and note that sandboxes a little different than draft articles (e.g. more freedom to experiment). —  void  xor  23:09, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Norms
Hi Voidxor, I think you are trying to aggravate me by removing my content on Norms. It is incorrect and needs to be removed. Trevor Tmj1994 (talk) 15:59, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Ah, so you can communicate! I've been reverting you and explaining why in my edit summaries for months. I've also left you multiple messages on your talk page.
 * I'm not trying to aggravate you (see also: our Assume Good Faith policy); I'm trying to defend an article from repeated unexplained removals of content. You need to leave edit summaries that explain your reasons, chiefly. We have guidelines on Wikipedia to keep things orderly, and please keep in mind that I have 18 years of experience editing here.
 * Now, to the issue of Norms Restaurants, what is incorrect? For reference, . The fact that there are currently 21 locations is stated in the body of the article and correctly referenced. You are also removing the mentions of the restaurants all being in the Greater Los Angeles area and Southern California. Greater Los Angeles extends all the way out to Riverside per that article. How is saying that all restaurants are in Southern California incorrect? Have you looked at the referenced locator from Norms website?
 * Also, as I've said to you repeatedly, please quit removing the wiki syntax that looks like ; it's there for a reason to do with maintenance of the encyclopedia. —  void  xor  23:20, 13 October 2023 (UTC)