User talk:VolumeTrader

Unconstructive edits
This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Volume Spread Analysis, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. You have made similar edits as an IP address. Stop now. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

No one is vandalising anything. You are placing spam links and material non related to Volume Spread Analysis. Hawkeye traders is not VSA and has no business in this section. They have their own page under their false volume spread analysis.


 * Hawkeye is there due to a merge proposal from another article. They do not have their own page anymore. And you are inserting a spam link to software with your edits, as well as restoring unsourced/POV material. This is highly disruptive. You are not the page owner. You failed to heed the warning above. Now you are blocked. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

First off the material is no unsourced it comes directly from the creator of vsa Tom Williams not some bogus software company trying to scam wiki link spam. -		 -	The merge proposal is bunk. -	I just copy and paste the original article everytime they change it. The software link seemed relevant so I left it. I will remove the software link but they must also be removed. It is not related to VSA. I run many online resources for VSA and can safely say that hawkeye is not recognized as true vsa and have no business here at all.

I am not promoting anything. I am just trying to keep this page relevant to the original creator of VSA. It is clear hawkeye and amalutic are working together as they are saying I promoted a link to software which is exactly as they have done.


 * Your actions and your repeated reverts as an IP address followed by your new account, indicate that you are intent on promoting something. However, I have removed the Hawkeye link. That link simply got transferred over with the merge. I am considering removing the Hawkeye paragraph altogether, pending investigation of 3rd-party coverage. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I think I was pretty clear as to why I kept reverting from their garbage changes. As for posting under an ip I just never bothered to register but as the hawkeye guys were clearly trying to rewrite history I thought I might have access to better tools to admin the page and be let known sooner of changes. That is all.

The same reason for your inclusion of the link is as mine is yet you block me? I am not trying to sell anything and am actually in the process of creating a more in depth and accurate entry for volume spread analysis.


 * You are now unblocked. You were blocked because your editing patterns matched that of someone with a conflict of interest intent on promoting a link. I would be pleased to see improvements on the article. Please do not engage in wholesale reverting; instead, please edit one section at a time. After investigation of sources, I think we can safely reduce the Hawkeye bit to a one-liner mention. I do think it needs mentioning.


 * Furthermore, the entire article is unsourced. You claim it is, but what I meant is that it does not cite any sources. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

As an expert in Volume Spread Analysis I can say that hawkeye has no business being here they have also been accused of scamming customers for a long time. Google hawkeye trader and scam you should find some references. They are already trying to game wiki for their own purposes and offer nothing to the table where VSA is concerned.

As for the source of the original article text, it comes from Master The Markets (By Tom Williams) the creator of modern VSA. I am doing a complete history of VSA from Wykoff and William's to other World reknown experts like Todd Kreuger.

I will remove the hawkeye references as it will only lend credibility to their false VSA in the eyes of those that are unclear of VSA and it's origins.

PS Thank you for unblocking me. I understand you are a moderator here and likely not working with hawkeye. Sorry for the confusion on my part.


 * That's OK. Actually I had never heard of Hawkeye until I came across the merge proposal yesterday. And I apologize for what must have seemed a hasty action, but an admin here gets accustomed to seeing certain patterns (see The duck test) and acting accordingly. Occasionally errors happen. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Question
How can I become the page owner? Is this possible I ask only because you stated I was not the page owner.

I am unblocked now too and was able to edit out all previous references left behind from the old spam page.


 * Nobody can be a page owner. I left that comment early on in our altercation because it seemed to me that you were acting as if you owned the page. See WP:OWN.


 * By the way, what you removed was my attempt at reducing all the Hawkeye verbage to just one sentence. I felt that the article should mention it because Hawk Eye Volume Spread Analysis redirects to Volume Spread Analysis. Perhaps I should just delete that redirect and be done with it. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

OK thanks for the clarification and yeah I think all references should be removed for the reasons mentioned while we were sparring. I should have one fairly large update to get this page back in line this weekend too, then hopefully only small edits if neccesary. I am learning and editing on a local wiki so I can just plonk it all in when I am happy with it's structure. Enjoy your day and thanks again for your help and understanding.


 * I have deleted the redirect.
 * Now that you have an account, you can create subpages in your own user space and edit them there. See Help:Userspace draft. Of you can simply create a subpage directly by editing User:VolumeTrader/Volume spread analysis - just remember to put the template at the top so that people know you're working on it. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Still blocked
It seems I am still blocked?


 * Eh? Let me investigate. I removed your unblock template as I'm monitoring this talk page. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * That's weird. The block log says I unblocked you. Are you sure you still can't edit? If not, I can try re-blocking you with a 1-minute duration so that it automatically expires. Let me know. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it shows I am still blocked. I do also see the unblocked bit. I will paste it in here: This user is currently blocked. The latest block log entry is provided below for reference: 23:19, 8 February 2011 Amatulic (talk | contribs) unblocked "VolumeTrader (talk | contribs)" ‎ (Convinced of sincerity) View full log

I found this as well it appears to be set to expire: This block has been set to expire: 23:15, 9 February 2011.


 * I confess I am mystified. Anyway, it should be expired now, and it seems you can edit again. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)