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Thanks for your help with editing Talk:Royal_Automobile_Club_of_Western_Australia
Hi, I did as you suggested and made an archive of the old logo warning information on Talk:Royal_Automobile_Club_of_Western_Australia; thank-you :-) Chas66 (talk) 04:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, glad I could help! If you ever need anything feel free to contact me here. -- Voyaging  (talk) 04:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Userpage
Hey, your userpage looks great, along with your nice new sig! Tiptoety talk 16:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks man, though I stole a lot from yours :P! I'm not sure if it's just my computer, but the navigation buttons seemed to mess up. Do yours look messed up to you? If they are I can fix them for you. Thanks again. -- Voyaging  (talk) 16:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh, yea, they do look messed up. Strange, sure I would appreciate that. Thanks, Tiptoety  talk 16:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅. -- Voyaging  (talk) 16:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank ya much! Tiptoety  talk 16:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Entschuldigung, aber kennen sie der Administrator Spellcast?? Ich möchte mit ihm sprechen! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.9.41.240 (talk) 22:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Remember?
Long time no see voyaging. If you don't remember me, I asked you to become my adoptee a while ago, but you already had one. I see that your in good hands. I also have an Adoption Program of my own. It's been pretty successful. I improved everything, I have over 3850 edits (about 80 deleted edits), I have been given rollback, and I have been nominated for adminship twice, but I didn't accept. I also improved my sig and my user and talk pages. Hope you write back.-- RyRy5   talk  07:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Everything looks good man, glad to see everything's going well. I'm in no need of another adopter at this point, but thanks for the message. Voyaging(talk) 17:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I wasn't really asking. I was just checking up on you. Cheers.-- RyRy5   talk  20:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for the thought, I appreciate it! Voyaging(talk) 20:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

List of basic oceanography topics
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Zelda, Link etc
Just started on copy edit for this article. Want to say it is outstanding writing. A continuous flow of content. Logical progression. Perfect level of detail. Precise but concise description. Excellent graphics. Sentences and paragraphs are short, sweet and simple. There is variety in sentence structure and use of logical connectives. There is an engaging, energetic feel, a "rhythm" to the prose, that draws in a reader and yet remains neutral, encyclopedic and formal. Excellent use of language to convey substantial and relevant information. This is a featurable article imo, well done!

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 * Thanks so much for the copyediting. I actually didn't write most of the article, but quite a bit of the lead section and all of the current (updated) reception section was done by me. Thanks, again. Voyaging(talk) 19:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:Declined speedy on Image:GoldOoTn64Cart.jpg
Ahh, thanks for reminding me about this picture. I declined the speedy because I knew it would be easier and better if I just resized the image, which I did and had forgot to upload. It is now uploaded at approximately 1/3 the original size, small enough to fit the "Low Resolution" clause, but large enough to properly identify the subject. Thanks for reminding me, if you have any farther comments feel free to ask. Cheers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs)  23:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, its actually pretty easy to do, so whenever I see someone actually write a fair-use rationale, and the only thing wrong is the size, I tend to try and help out. Cheers!   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  01:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time peer review
Hey there, How are you doing? Just stopping by to let you know that it is probably not the best idea to leave messages like the ones you did in regards to the headline above per WP:CANVASS. Please understand that if users want to comment on a certain topic they will do so on their own and should not be solicited to. Don't worry to much about it though, I know everyone (including myself at one time) did it too. Cheers, Tiptoety  talk 23:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The users I sent the messages to were on a list of people who want to help with peer reviews upon request. Voyaging(talk) 00:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well then that is my bad. Sorry, keep up the good work! Tiptoety  talk 04:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up though, I would've done the same. Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 20:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, and by the way I went ahead and granted your AWB request. Tiptoety  talk 22:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 02:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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Re: assistance
Hi, Voyaging - the pianista here. If you're miffed about the last link leading to a dead video (as I am), I've found another one, which is close-to-best here, played by Alfred Brendel and conducted by Claudio Abbado.

P.S.: If you want an extension of the list, I'd be happy to provide it; the first six were just off the top of my head. -- La Pianísta!  03:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * Thanks so much! I really appreciate the thought, but do you think you could maybe give me some CD recordings? I'm somewhat of an audiophile, and YouTube's recordings aren't the greatest quality. I love your new sig by the way. <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 03:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh heh...thanks for the compliment. But as to CD's, I would suggest maybe this, this, andthis to start. -- La Pianísta!  04:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I'll definitely check those out. <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 04:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

April 2006 cleanup
Did you just remove the cleanup tags from April 2006 from the whole category? Did you review each article to make sure cleanup was completed before doing so? RJFJR (talk) 19:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes. I cleaned up all the articles prior to removing the tag, it makes it easier. There are still a few problems with some of the articles, but definitely not problems which would require the cleanup tag. <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 20:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Why did you remove the cleanup tags from all articles from April 2006? You did not clean them all up. I checked a few articles and they were still written poorly and quite the same as before you remove the tag.Wai Hong (talk) 13:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think "cleanup" needs a more clearly defined meaning. I thought of it as a general fixing of grammar and spelling. I wasn't aware tone and style were also involved. I'll stop doing such quick and general cleanups. <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 14:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes. Do not remove tags before you are fully aware of what they imply. I have just fixed one such removal myself, now I have to go and check out the other pages you did this on. — Hex    (❝  ?!  ❞)   19:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

John Gallaher AfD
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Hello again. I saw you on RC that you use WP:AWB. I was wondering, how do you actually start using it. Or where do you click to use it?-- RyRy5 ( talk ) 22:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Have you requested permission to use it yet? <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 22:37, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was approved yesterday. I also use Internet Exploror 7.-- RyRy5 ( talk ) 22:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Just follow the steps under "Using this software" at AutoWikiBrowser. If you need any help, let me know. <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 21:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Zelda
Hey man, I know you did a lot trying to promote Ocarina of Time to FA, but it went wrong. And I wondered if you'd like to help another Zelda, to reach Featured status. (but of course I am uncertain if it would be of your interest) igordebraga ≠ 02:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll try to help out and maybe make some comments later. Thanks for the update! <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 19:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * A lot of drafts have already been created, and can be found at WikiProject Lists of basic topics. They're there until they get fleshed out enough to be moved to article space.  Otherwise, we'd have a bunch of pages with just skeleton structures (empty headings) on them, and a lot of editors don't like that and would speedy delete them.  The Transhumanist  19:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Lists of basic topics
I have a few questions about Lists of basic topics. How are they different from lists of topics? How exactly do you use Linky + AWB to help you create, edit them? I know what they are, but how exactly do they help with these lists? Thanks! <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 11:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Ooh, I see the difference now, but could you still answer my other question? <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 12:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * They differ in scope (mostly in potential scope). "Basic" in the title is intended to keep them from becoming comprehensive and unabridged.  In addition to this, lists of "topics" are less well defined in format - some are topically arranged, while others are alphabetical. (Basic topics lists have a common format).  I've been renaming the alphabetical topics lists to lists of "articles" as I come across them (following the precedent set by the Mathematics WikiProject folks).


 * AWB and Linky are for working on multiple pages - and can really speed up the processing of sets of pages.


 * Linky allows you to open many different pages in tabs (subwindows of a Firefox window). While AWB is a page autoloader, Linky is a page preloader (it loads all the pages you want to work on from the start). You just highlight the links you want to load the pages of, and right-click (and then choose Linky from the drop down menu) - this allows you to select pages for editing on the fly. It can handle 99 pages at a time.  Once they are loaded, switching between pages is rapid (almost instantaneous - press Ctrl-tab).  Closing tabs is also rapid (just press Ctrl-W, and the page disappears, instantly going to the next page). Linky and tabs are very useful for (fast) visual inspection of pages, and for when you want to change the same thing in each page, or edit a particular batch of pages, or when you are looking for pages that need editing.  Linky + tabs works better than AWB when you need to do interactive editing on the pages (edit, preview what you've done, edit some more), and for when you need to switch back and forth between pages or windows a lot.


 * AWB is an autoloader, which automatically closes a page when you save it and loads the next page in the list. It has extensive search/replace and page skipping filter features.  It searches through a list of pages looking for changes you want to make, and skips those that don't need the changes.   AWB is awkward for viewing pages - it's fastest when you don't need to see the results, that is, when you can rely on looking at just the source text.  It is most powerful for searching and replacing.


 * For many tasks, AWB and Linky are interchangeable. But Linky is faster for selecting links from parts of pages, while AWB processes an entire page to make a link list (list of pages to process).  So on-the-fly editing of groups is faster to load with Linky - in AWB, you have to cut and paste those links to another page, then specify that page for AWB to scan with its make list feature.  AWB is more useful for large groups of pages - numbering in the hundreds or thousands (you can only load 99 at a time with Linky).  Both AWB and Linky are useful for creating pages from redlinks.


 * Currently, I'm focused on the lists of basic country topics, so I'll explain how I used/use the programs on them. I used AWB to create the 200+ basic country topics lists, from a page of redlinks where each redlink was the name of a country list I wanted to create - now they're all listed on the basic topics WikiProject page, and at the WP:AWC.  As AWB opened each page, I inserted a template for substitution ( " ) and then saved.  The template was designed to provide a starting point for all the lists, including all the standard topics I could find.  I used it because it could be programmed to automatically insert the country name into each page name (link) displayed on each list - a great many pages for countries follow standard naming formats - like "Politics of country name", "Culture of country name", etc.  The country name was also automatically inserted in headings and in the lead.  There is no sense in constructing each list from scratch by hand - a lot of it would be repetitive.


 * Unfortunately, not all page names are standardized, and therefor not all link names can be standardized. Countries differ in their forms of government, and so "Parliament of country name" does not apply to all countries (some countries have Congresses instead, or Assemblies, etc). Those have to be changed manually. Also, not all the info included are page names.  Some of the items need to be filled in with information pertaining to each country (like location, form of government, head of state, etc.  Therefore, once created, each list needs to be customized.  Also, when an improvement is thought of for the standard design, that improvement has to be made on all the lists.  AWB and Linky+Tabs to the rescue...


 * Sometimes a heading needs to be changed. I use AWB to change it in all the lists.  But to add the location information to the location entry in each country list, I use Linky (because just including a standard location for each country, like "Earth", wouldn't be very useful).  :)   I also use Linky when I want to work on the same section in each list.  For example, the regions section, or the government section.  The regions types differ from country to country, as does the structure of their governments, so Linky is much more useful for these sections because there's a lot of interactive editing (switching windows to copy/paste info, checking other articles for info, etc.  So when working on locations, I whip out the location for one country, and when I'm done I delete the tab (CTRL-W) and instantly the next country list is displayed for me to process its location.


 * Sometimes I come across a standard item that needs to be added to all the lists. For example Energy policy of country name.  That's not a search/replace operation, so instead of using AWB, I use Linky for this.  Once the pages are all in tabs, I edit each one, pasting the new line in, like this:


 * Energy policy of the United States


 * Another use for Linky is in bluelinking. For many items, the countries don't use a standard name, even when they could/should - editors use different page names for the same topic, unless a standard emerges and becomes obvious (but sometimes editors don't check first and just use whatever page title comes to mind).  For those, I use a standard name, but it of course comes up redlinked in many country lists.  So I load up a bunch of countries in Linky, and then click on the redlink, which creates a new page.  In another window, I track down the name of the page containing the relevant information, and then insert a redirect into the new page leading to that information.  This causes the link on the country list to turn blue.  I backtrack to check the bluelink to see if the redirect works as expected, and if it does, I then {Ctrl-W) and work on the same redlink in the next list, etc.  (Creating redirects is better than typing in the various page names, because a set of standard redirects comes in very handy for future uses.  Another approach is to standardize the page names themselves by moving them, but whether that is the best approach must be determined on a topic-by-topic basis, and I generally reserve judgment until I'm sure what the standard name should be.  There's a lot of trial and error involved, and changing links is a lot faster than renaming pages, so it's better to wait than have to rename a set of pages several times as you come up with a better standard name).


 * I hope the above explanation helps.


 * By the way, the set of country lists (the set of drafts) isn't ready for others to whip through them with these tools yet - the template which they were created with is under further development, and the lists need to be refreshed with the final template before they start getting customized (otherwise refreshing them will wipe out all customization). Those that have already been moved to article space (to Lists of basic topics) are fine to work on, because refreshing those is not an option (they've already been heavily customized).  I use linky a lot on those.  The standard format emerging from those will be used on all the rest of the countries.


 * Don't worry about the drafts of the basic non-country lists. Those are ready and waiting for you to work on to your heart's content.


 * The Transhumanist 18:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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Your adoption
Hello, Voyaging. It's been a while. I just wanted to congratulate you for you passing User:Tiptoety's adoption program. I remember when I first met you, your edits weren't as constructive. Now, your edits are far more constructive then they were before. Just a tip I don't think Tipoety taught you. Communication is very well important for an admin. Pretty much all of your edits are to mainspace which is overly good and shows great dedication to Wikipedia. But communicating with others is important to. You've probably noticed that Tiptoety, an admin, always handles disputes, problems, and talks to others to fix them. That is a big role for administrators, dealing with disputes and communicating with others. Well, I think you like something called "Legend of Zelda" Well, talk about the article about how to improve it on it's talk page, as well as anything related. Communicate at project space talk, an important place to communicate also which shows that you know administrative pages. Well, I'll notify Tiptoety and see what he thinks. Oh, by the way, if you do want to post a WP:RFA, if you want, feel fee to ask me to nominate you. I've been occasionally watching your adoption and I would be more than happy to nominate you. Regards, RyRy5  ( talk ) 06:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, try out WP:ADMINCOACHING first. Best, RyRy5  ( talk ) 06:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help and consideration! I appreciate the kind words! I don't plan to post an RFA now, but I'll let you know if I do. <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 17:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright. Whenever your ready. Good luck finding a coach if your planning to be coached. Regards,  RyRy5  ( talk ) 00:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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I'm a little full now. Lately I've been a little lax about coaching, but I plan to pick up the slack. I'm planning on doing one coaching at a time except in extraordinary circumstances. I see you have an editor review up. Wait for that to finish, and hopefully I'll be free at the moment.  bibliomaniac 1  5  22:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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Final Fantasy VII
I reverted your edit on Final Fantasy VII as it had blanked the whole section indiscriminately and had removed information that was not in the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII article. Kariteh (talk) 10:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Then the info should be merged into Compilation of Final Fantasy VII because it should not be in an article about a specific game. <b style="color:midnightblue; font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Voyaging</b><sup style="color:teal;">(talk) 16:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy birthday!
Since it's my birthday too, I just thought I'd drop by to wish you many happy returns, from one Wikipedian to another! Steven Walling (talk) 20:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching
I might be a little crammed for space, seeing as I have two upcoming pupils. I will take you if you want, but would you mind asking first? He is another excellent admin who, as I understand, may have an opening. Again, if you really want, I will be happy to coach you as well, but I may be busy. I could also co-coach you with Useight if you so desire.  bibliomaniac 1  5  22:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I call it "Editor coaching" instead of "admin coaching". Some of the community are not big fans of admin coaching if it is used to "polish up" before an RFA. So I take a slightly different angle and use coaching to make the editor more well-rounded as a whole, without becoming an admin as a specific goal of the coaching, instead the goal is simple: to improve. But, yes, I can coach you if you'd like. Let me know. Useight (talk) 16:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's up to you and Useight. Personally, I'm already at my personal limit of two, but I might drop by your admin coaching to see how you do.  bibliomaniac 1  5  20:02, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have created User:Voyaging/Editor Coaching with some questions there for you. Useight (talk) 20:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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