User talk:Vrxces/Archives/2024/April

Your GA nomination of The Elder Scrolls III: Tribunal
The article The Elder Scrolls III: Tribunal you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Elder Scrolls III: Tribunal for comments about the article, and Talk:The Elder Scrolls III: Tribunal/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of The Night Watch -- The Night Watch (talk) 05:22, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon
The article The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon and Talk:The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Lee Vilenski -- Lee Vilenski (talk) 23:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks @Lee Vilenski, I've made the changes to the article as requested. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 06:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon
The article The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon for comments about the article, and Talk:The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Lee Vilenski -- Lee Vilenski (talk) 14:42, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey again
Not sure if I'm allowed to do this, but...

If I don't manage to finish these GA reviews on time, could you help review Herobrine and Tears of the Kingdom for me? I'll be gone for a week, and I truly deserve this wikibreak. I figured you were the best person with your expertise on Wikipedia. TWOrantula TM (enter the web) 02:17, 1 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Yes, this is possible, check the GAN page instructions on how to seek a second opinion. I may not have the capacity to do TOTK straight away, that is a big undertaking, but can take a look at Herobrine, although that page looks like it may need some improvement. Happy to also provide some pointers on GAN reviews if that would help. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 02:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
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Faunasphere
Hi! Thanks for your comments on Draft:Faunasphere. I submitted it through AfC because I was unsure about the notability of the thing right now and it seems my fears were not unfounded. Would like your opinion on the following points and whether or not they establish notability: Thanks for your time. If it turns out to be insubstantial then I'll save a copy for my personal use and put it up as a CSD. Recon rabbit  14:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Sources [1] and [6] are the most substantial "reviews" I could find that aren't on someone's self-published or user generated content website. I can add these to Reception, but they aren't exactly "critical".
 * I can make mention of the later works by Jason Begy (sources 2, 3, and 4) as academic work related to the game. They seem to be cited modestly enough - is that establishing notability for the game as the subject of studies after its decline or is this just a case of a fan with a background in game studies getting published? Also, it shows up in this, which I can't get full access to right now.
 * I did a further search and found at least one "review" on Adweek that seems more substantial but it was probably paid for as marketing. Anything else is as you say just a one-minute-read paragraph announcement for the various launches and later shutdown.


 * Thanks - appreciate it. A quirk of how WP:GNG is applied for video games absent a medium-specific notability guide is that reviewers tend to look for WP:SIGCOV from WP:VG/S sources in the form of reviews as a sort of threshold and first port of call to assessing notability. This has its own benefits and flaws - not least of all that unorthodox release models such as web games never got reviewed formally in the same manner as traditional games. On the reviews, I would count the Endgadget article as a valid review; the Next Gen Player article is not really reliable and seems like a WP:USERG blog unless Paul Hunter has credentials. The AdWeek source is hard to say but could be at best evidence of WP:NEXIST. On the research, a quick snoop of Begy suggests that he was a Masters-level academic but not a professor or leading authority. As per WP:SCHOLARSHIP these papers are valid and significant coverage, but I would assume that a body of research by one author can't be taken as multiple reliable sources of coverage. The sources are currently also not used as secondary commentary or analysis but as evidence of how the game works and its context.
 * Long story short, this is obviously a borderline case; maybe resubmission and getting a second opinion from someone else helps. Also drafts can exist in the ether forever - you are welcome to keep it in play indefinitely just in case there is more out there. Hope that helps and isn't overkill on views/guidance! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 22:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for your response. I will emphasize the scholarship aspect on this and resubmit it, but it's likely that as you said Faunasphere was just a prolific example chosen by some works due to its vocal userbase. There have been some recent efforts to re-engineer the game from the ground up a la City of Heroes but of course it has garnered zero external coverage, which is probably for the best for its continued existence. Recon  rabbit  17:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks - appreciate it. Hopefully another editor can assess a second opinion - hope the drafting goes well! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 21:05, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of A Living Commodity


A tag has been placed on A Living Commodity requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a musical recording which does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, and where the artist's article does not exist or is eligible for deletion itself. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for music.

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== A Living Commodity moved to draftspace - as requested on talk page of now draftified article. Notes about this soon at User talk:Vrxces ==

An article you recently created, A Living Commodity, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for doing the draftify. I know this is largely automated text but there's an interesting gap between WP:GNG and WP:A9 which the above text doesn't really apply to. Anyway that's obviously best not agitated here but it's good to know for future. Thanks again! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * So here are those Notes. And look at me, second guessing two editors who write brilliant content while all I write are micro-stubs. https://egyptianblueshop.co.uk/ isn't in any useful here, as it is just selling Egyptian Blue (band) "merch". The 19 October 2023 NME piece here would appear to me to WP:VERIFY that the band are from Brighton but only add the writer's opinion of the band. Possibly the same with this piece in Clash (magazine). The more I look at this, the more I see should look with to my editorial smarts - and most explicitly without without my WP:ADMIN hat on - to improve this.Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 11:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It's all good! I think you've applied A9 correctly. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 11:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Pokémon Crystal
Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

On the recent PB95 stuff

 * Hello!
 * Thanks for the suggestions.
 * Sadly, PB95 is a little niche, which is why there's not many reviews but the following:
 * - 3 reviews that were on the page in the draft.
 * - Metacritic user reviews (which are not allowed based on WP:VG/S)
 * - Portuguese review from a Wikipedia article of PB95 from the Portuguese Wikipedia
 * - Steam Curator Reviews (which I have no idea on the legality of).

If you could reply to me as soon as possible, that would be nice. Thanks! ThatPB95 Fan (talk) 03:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Unfortunately, as you mention with it being a "little niche", this gets to the fact the game may not be notable as per WP:GNG. Metacritic citations in a review score template are welcomed but aggregator scores are not in themselves something that contribute to notability. Steam reviews are WP:USERG, and only worth adding when the score itself has been reported by several reliable sources as a noteworthy reaction of the game's user base. Not sure on the reliability of TechTudo; it doesn't appear on WP:VG/S and another one to possibly raise at the talk page there. Again, I understand this has a bit of tenor of shooting down the work you've done, but comfortably satisfying the conditions of the WP:GNG by WP:VG standards will help the article not be subject to a deletion discussion raised by someone else once published. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello!
 * An update - I found two reliable sources, but they're in different languages. However, they are on the list. I'll list them both for you.
 * 4Gamer.net (Japanese)
 * AwesomeGames.ru (Russian), however this is only a game feature
 * And as you mentioned earlier, I might try to raise the reliability of Android Central and Zed Games. Thank you. ThatPB95 Fan (talk) 23:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Forgot to ask for a reply if possible. ThatPB95 Fan (talk) 04:59, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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Grimace's Birthday
Hello again! :) I'm about to nominate Grimace's Birthday for GA status.  TWOrantula  TM (enter the web) 00:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks mate. Just a heads up that these are typically meant to be nominated by significant contributors, but given this is a really short article, you're more than welcome to nominate and I'm happy to chime into the GAN when it's accepted. Fortunately I think the article is mostly complete so there's probably not much to add in terms of sourcing or coverage. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 00:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

World Tour Racing
Hello there! I hope you're doing well. I nominated the Atari Jaguar CD game World Tour Racing to be a potential GA. So, if you're interested in reviewing it then let me know. Have a good day :) Roberth Martinez (talk) 15:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Happy to help - I have a few I need to finalise first but then can take that one on. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 20:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

A Difficult Game About Climbing
Thanks for the review of Draft:A Difficult Game About Climbing. I am not the author of the original AfC draft, but when I saw its state, I felt like contributing as a fan of the game. On reading your suggestions, fair enough. It will probably take several months for coverage of the subject to proliferate across the usual channels, and many of the pieces I found stretch the boundary of being seriously journalistic in nature. I was surprised to see the limited scope of coverage one month out from release, especially given the game's popularity on the Steam charts and as a vehicle for generating content. Maybe in a few months there will be more press coverage to pull from on the tail end of the hype cycle. o7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zetagaming (talk • contribs) 22:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


 * No worries! Yes, sorry if you're already across notability. Definitely in cases of WP:TOOSOON where the reviews just aren't there the ideal scenario is to keep the draft as-is and see if it can be furnished later. Great work though on contributing to it - that's always appreciated even if it isn't quite across the line yet in terms of sourcing! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 22:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft: Sonic the Hedgehog (film series)
Draft: Sonic the Hedgehog (film series) to be moved to Draft: Sonic the Hedgehog (media franchise) in preparation for Knuckles (TV series)'s release.

I noticed you declined the article on the legitimate basis that film series may be @ minimum 3 films. With the Knuckles TV series releasing, and considering that media franchises like DC Universe (franchise) are already well-published, I'd like to ask you to move it to that title so that it (as it definitely will under those rules) qualifies to be published.

Have a good one! ReddlSKye (talk) 23:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Dang it
You beat me to it. Don't worry, I'm cool with it. I'm gonna refine the article you just started, maybe nominate it for GA :P  TWOrantula  TM (enter the web) 04:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * It's ok. Welcome any edits but I'm not really sure there's much to add to this one. Appreciate any help but yep, you might find yourself in a situation looking for things to edit to justify significant contribution to nominate an article, which may not be the best approach. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 04:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Hate being a stickler about this, but...
...I usually go by he/him pronouns, not they/them. TWOrantula TM (enter the web) 14:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * No worries, thanks for letting me know. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 20:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)