User talk:Vsope

Youth
Guys aged 23 are not youth. Also 21 and 20. Youth teams are up to 19 age. So stop doing a mess by redirecting these articles.--Kostas66 (talk) 18:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Then explain to me why U-20 are included in Germany national youth football team? There is no strict definition of "youth", it can be any age group below the senior team. There is no reason to have separate articles for U-20, U-21, and U-23 if you don't have any material besides squad lists. Furthermore, the squad lists are usually outdated (the U-20 article listed the squad from 2007!). Those U-20 and U-21 articles are in embarrassing state. Would you like to expand these articles (there needs to be more info than simply a squad list) and will you promise to keep them updated? If not, then they should be merged and consolidated. What purpose do all these articles serve?Vsope (talk) 19:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop doing uselss edits about U-20 team, bacause this article is good, and the squad in the article is the last squad that was called up. Since 2007 World Cup no Poland U-20 match was played. Check some things before you start to mess everything.

For me U-20 and U-21 are not youth (in football meaning). So to avoid misunderstandings please stop merge articles about Poland U-20 and U-21. Most football articles about U-21 and U-20 are separated. And in many of these articles there aren't more informations included than in Poland U-20 and U-21 articles.--Kostas66 (talk) 21:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well for other people, as you saw from the German article, "youth" can include U-20s. If you really want the U-21 article, we can keep it, but the U-20 article has to be merged, it makes no sense to keep a separate U-20 article if it contains no useful information. Why do I have to keep explaining this? Vsope (talk) 21:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop revert U-20 arcticle, because if not I will report you. I said my rights to you, German article is isolated article, all other football U-20 are separated and as I said U-20 for me is not youth and it should be not merged with Poland national youth football team article. --Kostas66 (talk) 22:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * What infraction are you planning to report me for? I'm not doing anything wrong, there is no need for a separate U-20 article. It's badly titled, poorly written, and features no useful information. The little bit of useful information could easily go in Poland national youth football team. While for you, U-20 is not youth, you have to consider other people's opinions. Youth CAN include U-20s, I have given an example.Vsope (talk) 22:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Help
Is this article http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poland_U-20_National_Football_Team&oldid=309864241 really necessary? It's not only badly titled but the article in general is badly written with an unprofessional style and out of date information. Poland U-20s rarely ever meet, the last call-ups were in 2007! I think it has very little notable information and it would make more sense to merge it with Poland national youth football team (see Germany national youth football team for an example). A separate article is not justified.Vsope (talk) 23:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've nullified the helpme as the article has been merged. If you need a 3rd opinion on the matter I would suggest contacting WikiProject Football, or following other suggestions as laid out at Dispute resolution. -Optigan13 (talk) 23:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Blacha
Why you wrote that Blacha played 33 matches in U-19 national team, while in fact he played 5 games?--Kostas66 (talk) 22:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Because that's what Transfermarkt says.

http://transfermarkt.co.uk/en/spieler/38378/blacha-david/profil.html Vsope (talk) 22:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Michal Czekaj and Filip Kurto
They are notable under Notability. btw Kurto played in Polish Cup and III Liga matches, so he is notable also under WikiProject Football/Notability.--Oleola (talk) 03:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)