User talk:WBJohnson

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Hello, WBJohnson, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Laissez-faire fraternity, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Laissez-faire fraternity


A tag has been placed on Laissez-faire fraternity requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Cntras (talk) 03:18, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Laissez-faire fraternity
I have declined the speedy deletion nomination on this article because you claim on the talk page that it is "a well-established economic think tank which bears significant influence on economic, academic and political culture of the United States." A credible claim of importance is enough to avoid speedy deletion, but if the article is to be kept that claim must be backed up by references.

A fundamental policy is Verifiability: "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source... The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true."

For any Wikipedia article subject there is also a notability requirement, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people unconnected with the subject thought it important and significant enough to write substantial comment about?

If the Foundation is well-established and influential it should not be hard to find references to show notability, but I have searched:

without finding any references not connected with GIU, with which the Fraternity seems to be closely connected - I note that the Fraternity has endorsed the GIU President's book and has already awarded GIU a 2012 medal. (I also note that you have posted articles about both, and in that connection I must ask you to read our Conflict of interest policy).

In view of the lack of any confirmation of your claim, I have nominated the article at WP:Articles for deletion - formal notice below. That will start a debate lasting, normally, seven days, after which an uninvolved administrator will decide, basing the decision on the arguments presented in terms of policy, not on a count of heads. You are welcome to contribute, and also to edit the article during the debate. JohnCD (talk) 15:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Laissez-faire fraternity for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Laissez-faire fraternity is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Laissez-faire fraternity until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. JohnCD (talk) 15:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Georgian International University
I have sorted out the reference links so that they display correctly, and replaced the two Mathewson ones which were dead-links; but really, links to books written by a person after whom one of the University's schools is named do nothing to meet the WP:Verifiability and WP:Notability requirements. What is needed is references to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources about the University to verify, for instance, the foundation date of 1812, the number of pupils and the distinguished alumni.

There are also problems with the article's promotional tone - read WP:PEACOCK for the reasons why unsupported adjectives like "highly prestigious... innovative... very unique... " are discouraged, and are liable to attract or  flags, or to be edited out. Generally, an encyclopedia article should consist of neutrally-stated facts, cited to reliable sources. JohnCD (talk) 17:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * it turns out this was a copy of the web page,, and I therefore deleted it. You would need to show permission according to our license. But even if you were able to do so, I would nominate it for deletion as having no independent  evidence of real existence. You are of course invited to show otherwise if you have some 3rd party sources.    DGG ( talk ) 20:52, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Georgian International Academy
I have done some editing to remove adjectives of praise (see JohnCD's comment above), and also all references to organizations whose real existence I have been unable to demonstrate. Please do not add them back without good 3rd party sources.  DGG ( talk ) 20:55, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case
Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/WBJohnson for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 14:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)