User talk:WBancroft

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Wikipedia:New contributors' help page
I posted an aswer to your question, I hope this helps? if not just say and I'll try and solve any further problems, cheers SpitfireTally-ho! 19:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Help Desk
I posted a couple of replies to your cross-posted message at the Help Desk. Please ask help questions in only one place so that replies stay together. Let's keep it at the Help Desk for now. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 19:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message on my talk page - no problem, that's what user talk pages are for. Let me know if you need any help. – ukexpat (talk) 14:53, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The basic notability guideline is WP:N, supplemented by WP:Corp for companies. These require reliable sources to support claims of notability. Balanced against that is the principle that articles must maintain a neutral point of view and not give undue weight to any one view. So the article can mention those other items, but must be neutral and not go overboard in dealing with them. It may help to take a look at some of the other company articles to get a feel for it: IBM, Microsoft, Dow, BASF, DuPont etc. – ukexpat (talk) 16:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Hanger Prosthetics and Orthotics
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Hanger Prosthetics and Orthotics, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Spammy; full of unsourced or poorly sourced assertions; reads like a brochure, not an encyclopedia article

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Conflict of interest?
If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
 * 1) editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
 * 2) participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors;
 * 3) linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam); and,
 * 4) avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for businesses. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

reply to proposed deletion
First of all, I am a new contributor to Wikipedia. I don't have ulterior motives of advertising a company or its products, but I do have the motive of providing sound and thorough information for people who may be researching that company. The article I posted was proposed for deletion and I removed the tag. I have since read that I need to explain why I removed the tag, so here goes:

One expressed concern was that the article sounded like an advertisement, but both I and other Wikipedians have deleted what I believe was the objectionable material. Another concern was notability, particularly that which would be established by the first reference in the article. I am working on correcting this by locating a reliable source for this information. Also, there was a concern that one of the references had an invalid tag, which I believe I have corrected.

I am confused because when I look at other company articles (Devon Energy for example), I don't see a reference for every fact that is stated about the company like "...one of the world's leading independent oil and gas exploration..." (no reference given.)  Also, I read under reliable sources that material the actual company had produced was not considered objective. But I see other companies referencing their annual reports, or their self written corporate histories. So I am confused. But I really want to continue with this article, and make it right according to Wikipedia standards. Thank you. (WBancroft (talk) 23:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC))
 * Bad writing in one article doesn't justify bad writing in others; it means the bad one should be tagged for cleanup, too.
 * Poor references should be replaced by good ones.
 * Assertions such as "headquartered in Siddipet" may be referenced to annual reports and the like. Assertions like "biggest global firm in metal demangement" need better sourcing. Statements about history ideally should be sourced to reliable third-party sources; if there are none, this may be indicative that the firm is not notable. The more distinctive the assertion, the better sourcing it needs. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  00:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Userpages
Userpages are to tell us about you: who is WBancroft, why are you editing, what are your strongly-held opinions which may shade your judgement, etc. If what you want is a scratchpad to work on a draft article, etc., then you create a "sandbox" by typing in your username, followed by a slash / followed by its name, thus: User:WBancroft/sandbox. If you click on that, you've got a blank space in which to create an article. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Now that's more like it! There are lots of ways to do userpages, but there's certainly nothing wrong with choosing simplicity. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hanger Prosthetics and Orthotics
Thanks for the message. When you think you have adequately dealt with the issues identified in the tags you can just go ahead and delete them. You should also explain what you have done to deal with the issues by leaving a message on the article's talk page. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 17:14, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey there, just a quick note about this, thanks very much for your message, I can't really pass a personal judgement on the article, but I suggest you read WP:ORG all the way through, if you have not already, and then try and bring the article up to that standard, if it is not already. I know this probably isn't that helpful, but it's the best I can suggest, thanks most of all for taking this matter in such a mature manner, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 07:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Images
Thanks for the message. I can understand the frustration -- use of images is one of the most complex and confusing aspects of Wikipedia, but we have to be very careful about copyright violations. The easiest way to do this is for a representative from the company to send an e-mail to the address mentioned at WP:IOWN, attaching the images if possible, but at the very least identifying them on the company's website, if that's where they reside. It can take a few days, sometimes a couple of weeks, for the OTRS folks to reach them in the queue (the are all volunteers like the rest of us), but when they do, they will tag them with an OTRS ticket number. They can then be added to the article as described in WP:IMAGE. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 20:55, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * If you have e-mails that are clearly from the company and clearly release the images for use on Wikipedia, you could forward them to OTRS, that may work but I am not 100% sure. – ukexpat (talk) 21:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

James Edward Hanger
Thanks for the message. Nice work on the article! I added a few wikilinks and disambiguated some others, added an infobox and persondata. I think it would be well worth nominating this for a WP:DYK spot on the Main Page. I'll make the nomination and post the link here so you can comment if you wish. – ukexpat (talk) 17:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Here's the DYK nom: Template talk:Did you know. – ukexpat (talk) 17:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Good news! Looks like the DYK nomination has been accepted. It should appear in the DYK section sometime in the next few days. You will get a talk page message when it does. Great job! – ukexpat (talk) 19:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Yup, DYK = Did you know, on the Main Page. – ukexpat (talk) 16:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for James Edward Hanger

 * Congrats on your first DYK! – ukexpat (talk) 15:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)