User talk:WFlatow

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Proposed deletion of Highly powerful number


The article Highly powerful number has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * unreferenced original research.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. -- Finngall  talk  06:52, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Highly powerful number


A tag has been placed on Highly powerful number requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from URL. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Undeserved Deletion
Deletion of the Flatow's Law 'Highly Powerful Number' Article based on Copyright Infringement has no grounds whatsoever.

I request evidence of your Copyright Infringement claim.

WFlatow (talk) 21:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * As I'd stated on the article talk page before it was deleted, the deletion was not due to a violation of copyright against another source, but due to the copyright claim that you had placed in the article itself. You had removed the copyright note before RHaworth deleted the article, so if you want to contact him and ask that the article be restored on that basis, there's a case to be made for it, and an admin can look to see the sequence of events.  (The article was removed, but nothing is truly deleted here--any deleted content can be restored, including a full revision history, if the situation warrants.)


 * That said, there's nothing technically preventing you from recreating the article on your own without administrator intervention. However, unless you have some third-party coverage of your theorem, the reasons for which I had originally proposed its deletion remain valid, and I would still advocate its deletion on those bases.


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, all content herein should be referenced from third party reliable sources.  Primary sources are to be avoided in favor of secondary sources, and an author's own original research is not considered a reliable source, even if it's true.  Even if your theorem were the greatest breakthrough of the year in mathematics, it doesn't merit an article here until some other media outlet writes about it.  (And I love math--that's what my degree is in...)


 * Please read the policy pages which I've linked above, and also the list of what Wikipedia is not. Let me know if you have other questions.  Thank you for your time.  -- Finngall   talk  23:33, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

What third party would you suggest?
Ok, got it.

I am happy to remove my copyright notice.

But if you require third party references before publishing, then my approach will not work (that is, invite third party involvement via wikipedia).

Do you have a suggestion as to who I could send this to?

Thanks for your explanation.

101.162.174.46 (talk) 02:31, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Speaking in general terms, Wikipedia isn't really suitable for the approach that you're looking for. It's for subjects that have already achieved a certain level of notability--it is not and was never intended to be used as a means to become notable.  (If you don't believe me, take a peek behind the curtain at the deletion log and see how many dozens of spam/promotional pages get deleted every day.)  There's plenty of discussion around here, as Wikipedia is inherently a collaborative process, but the discussion is supposed to be about the best way to present an article on a subject rather than debating the subject itself (with certain contentious subjects the lines can get blurred, but those serve as examples to avoid).


 * Speaking more specifically about math, I would peruse articles on the subject and see what they're using for references. Also, you might get in contact with the folks at Wikiproject Mathemetics, who specialize in these articles. -- Finngall   talk  05:11, 21 August 2014 (UTC)