User talk:Waacstats/archive2

China sports venues
Dang -- I was hoping to leave that up to whoever decided to create it. :P My personal vote would be for PRC-sports-venue-stub. Maybe you should poll the geo gurus, Grutness and Alai... Her Pegship  (tis herself) 23:27, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that if you create the template at PRChina-sports-venues-stub, with a redirect at PRC-sports-venues-stub -- or vice versa -- no-one will be too unhappy. Recent moves have left these very inconsistent, so it's a toss up as to which is "canonical", but if neither's red, no-one should get too confused.  The category presumably would be at .  Alai 11:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that sounds good. We seem to be moving towards having the main templates at PRChina-x (to parallel things like DRCongo-x), but a redirect at PRC-x will do more good than harm, so it sounds reasonable to have both names available. Grutness...wha?  23:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

new stub template name
Hi Waacstats - I just notced that one of the new sports templates you've made is Skeleton-bio-stub. Don't know about you, but that sounds a pretty strange name... I'm sure that a template for the sport itself wouldn't get named Skeleton-stub - that sounds more like a subtype of anatomy-stub! Do you think it might be worth moving it to Skeletonracing-bio-stub or similar? Grutness...wha?  23:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, fair enough, we can leave it for now. It may be necessary to look at it later if a skeleton-stub gets proposed, though. Serves me right for not keeping track of all the proposals! :) Grutness...wha?  00:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Infobox Hospital
I noticed recently that you made minor adjustments to some hospital articles.

During the past year, I created quite a lot of stubs on hospitals in my hometown. I did so not because I have an interest in the hospitals themselves, but because I mentioned them in other articles I wrote or expanded. Some of them have been improved since; others have changed little.

I wanted to add infoboxes to all these pages. I tried using the Infobox Hospital, and it came out much wider than it should if it were to look good. At most, it should take up about half the width of the article. I have been trying to modify this, but with no success.

Do you think you are able to? Sebwite 21:41, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Athletics at the 1926 Central American and Caribbean Games
Any idea where I can find info on the swimming winners from the 1926 and 1930 games? i just did an article on Leonel "Bebito" Smith a gold medalist from those games.Callelinea 21:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:American track and field athletes
I noticed you added two pages which I'd created to the above category: Erica Larson and Matt Carpenter. While I was writing the articles I'd considered this, but I'm not sure that I'd call their long-distance trail running events "track and field", at least not in the way I'd understand the term. Even if, as in Larson's case, they occasionally participate in more mainstream t&f events, it's certainly not what they're notable for, and I'm therefore not sure that this is an accurate categorization of either athlete. --DeLarge 10:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Archie McLean edit
Hi,

I assume the edit summary here was just a mistake, but the category edit itself probably isn't appropriate: McLean is considerably more notable for his contributions to Brazilian football than to Scottish. There isn't a brazil-footy-bio stub, though, so I just left it. Is it worth creating a new stub for this? I think it should be moved back to the more generic footy-bio-stub if not anyway. Chris Cunningham (talk) 14:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit summaries
You seem to be using "Category:American long-distance runners" as all your edit summaries, when this probably isn't appropriate in many cases! Cheers --Pak21 (talk) 14:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Ed Steinberg
Yes I was unsure of what stub to use for Ed Steinberg. I saw you added 'record producer' but that isn't entirely appropriate. He's a producer/director of music videos who has also done some long form work for television. 'Film director' didn't seem entirely appropriate either. Wwwhatsup (talk) 11:15, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Stubs on disambig pages
Hello, One of the reasons I added stubs for many of the railroad station disambig pages was that I wanted to encourage more users/editors to add other stations to the list, although I agree that some lists were long enough that they didn't need the stubs. As for the two-stubs on the Weehawken Terminal article, the purpose of the extra US-Train stub was to attract more TWP editors into expanding it, not just those from New Jersey, or the vicinity of the state.

I just thought you should know my reasoning behind this. DanTD 17:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Opera-related stub templates
Hi. I see you have been making some opera-related stub templates. Could you possibly tell us what your plan/intention is? We already have our own templates at the Opera Project and would prefer not have any misunderstandings/confusion relating to them. Best regards. -- Kleinzach (talk) 06:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. As you probably realize we have stubs of operas written over four hundreds years in many countries and many languages (not just the four you mention). Speaking personally I find the 'opera-stub' (which I think you have been removing - am I right?) useful for statistics as we are monitoring the development of the opera corpus and splitting makes this much more difficult. Also creating multiple templates all with different code makes it tedious for the editor - who will probably just omit the stub altogether. However this is only my personal opinion. I'll mention it to the Opera Project and see what they think. Regards. -- Kleinzach (talk) 23:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


 * There is something else i should mention: the opera stub that you removed is used in regular bot runs. The bot looks for it and returns the article as a stub when it is found. Can you tell me how many articles you have removed it from? It's possible that we may haver to ask you to replace them. Regards. -- Kleinzach (talk) 23:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

This has now been discussed by the Opera Project - as you have seen - and there is a clear majority opinion against subdividing the opera stub tag according to language. (For the details please see the discussion at the Opera Project). Would it be possible to replace the original stub tags? I believe there are 127 of them. Perhaps you were using AWB or similar so it shouldn't be too time-consuming? Please let me know if there are any problems. Thanks. -- Kleinzach (talk) 22:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Template:Poland-academic-bio-stub
Thank you for creating this stub. Could you also create the corresponding category? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 03:52, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I am sure we have more then 60 articles, we just need to find them :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 14:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

pan-american games
What is pan-american games?Dogboyinamerica (talk) 11:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

UK "ship of the line" stubs
Good point. Since this really is a hierarchical type, and context should help quite a lot, perhaps just combining the existing "-ship-" element with "-line" would be best. So, UK-line-ship-stub, say. (Or some permutation thereof, or throwing in "-mil-" too, if that seems necessary. Alai (talk) 16:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Tobias Oetiker
Thanks for fixing the stubs on this article! - Lasse Havelund (p) (t) 15:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Stub sorting
Why did you remove all but one stub template from Nathaniel Bowen? I'll grant that they should have been trimmed, but Wikipedia:Stub says: "If an article overlaps several stub categories, more than one template may be used, but it is strongly recommended that only those relating to the subject's main notability be used. A limit of three or, if really necessary, four stub templates is advised."

I'd like to include one more stub that denotes this person as an Anglican or Episcopalian. What do you advise?  ~ InkQuill  18:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

David McKellop Hodge
Hey, Ya I can agree he was a politician in the US. Hope you didnt take my undoing of your edit the wrong way. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Thanks for your help--Cal (talk) 04:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

David Hamilton (county administrator)
You recently sorted the stub on David Hamilton (county administrator), but he isn't an Ontario politician -- hasn't been since 1997 and has lived in the United States since 1998 or so. He's working as a county administrator in Minnesota (I found a source that claimed Wisconsin but it mysteriously disappeared and blocked the internet archive. :/) and will be moving on to Florida. I wasn't sure how to disambiguate or stub the article. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. :) vıdıoman  (talk • contribs) 00:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

China-sport-bio-stub types
Hi W - just noticed your recent creation of a badminton stub for China P.R., and it set me to wondering... I'm sure that most China stub types are now ChinaPR- to save confusion with Taiwan. I've nominated the various Chinese sports bio stub types for renaming at WP:SFD, any input would be welcome. Grutness...wha?  02:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Stub fixing
Thanks for fixing the stub tags on Hosea Hudson and Hind Hassan. I'm still learning stubs. Travellingcari (talk) 16:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Wayne P. Steger
A tag has been placed on Wayne P. Steger requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Bearian (talk) 02:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Archiving Your Talk Page
Would you like me to archive your talk page?-- T r  U  C o 9 31 1 21:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

College football stub sorting
I've added stub-sorting to my work with college football head coaches. Great idea!--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Sidney Verba & Gerald Curtis
Please explain your recent edits to Sidney Verba and Gerald Curtis. If there was a problem with the stubs, I need to understand better so that I won't continue making the same mistakes in other articles. If this is naught but an issue of personal preference, then I'd be inclined to revert your edit ... assuming the tags do actually serve a useful purpose in luring others to improve this text in the context of an anticipated range of interests and backgrounds? --Tenmei (talk) 18:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay -- fine. Then I really shouldn't have bothered adding such tags in a number of other instances.  Rather than helping move the article towards a better iteration, I just added clutter.  I somehow had the impression that such tags became something of an invitation or a lure addressed specifically, for example, to college students interested in political science. If size is the primary criterion for stubs, then the tool seems to have no effective purpose.  Thanks. --Tenmei (talk) 18:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Iakovos Trivolis et al
Waacstats, these people for the most part lived their lives in Italy and what's more several centuries before Greece was founded. I thought the Greek flag there a bit anachronistic and misleading. That's all. If you think it is important I will not be changing them in the future and adding the Greek ref myself.Thanks for taking the time to do this.Xenovatis (talk) 15:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Stub sorting question
Hi, I saw the change you made here and I'm curious because I'm sure I've made more work for people using the generic stub tag as we worked through the backlog at the Museums project is there a list somewhere that shows how far down the stubs go so we know which one/s to use? TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 19:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 01:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Us-bio-stub on Native Americans
Hi. Please do not remove the Us-bio-stub template from Native American biographical articles when the individual died on or after 1924. The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 granted full citizenship to Native Americans that year, therefore, they are United States citizens. Others prior to that time should be checked on a case by case basis, as some may have gained citizenship through other means (military service, treaty, special allotment, or marriage). Thank you.Asarelah (talk) 16:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Airport stubs
Hi WS - I see you've been categorising various airports both with Foo-airport-stub and Foo-struct-stub... normally they get Foo-airport-stub and Foo-geo-stub. Not that it really makes much difference, but I was surprised to see so many airports in various building and structure stub categories. Grutness...wha?  01:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Dan Bane
You wrote "cleanup" on Dan Bane page. What do you mean by that? There is very little public information on Dan Bane, so I cannot expand on its content. I will expand on content as public info becomes available. WLee (talk) 15:51, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Politician-stub
Why did you removed the politician stub from Big Elk? He was the chief of a tribe. Simply because he was indigenous doesn't mean that he wasn't a political leader. Asarelah (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is it the policy of the stub sorting project to have only one type of stub tag per article? Asarelah (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * But he is still relevant to the subject of politics, and therefore, someone with an interest in politics might be browsing the stubs and decide to expand the article just because he was a political leader. Besides, merely because the other tribal chiefs don't have political stub templates doesn't mean that they neccessarily shouldn't. Asarelah (talk) 18:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

2000s album stubs
I've done what I can with these on the basis of the db dump categories. Of course, in some cases this merely worsens the state of the equally-oversized subcategories... Have fun with the rest! Alai (talk) 00:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can do that as well. Similar caveats about the currency of the db dump data apply, though in the case of dates, it'd be easier to do using "live" category data.  Alai (talk) 13:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

German-opera-stub, etc
Looks like these have had their categories removed (and subsequently deleted), and been entirely depopulated, without so much as a peep to WSS or SFD. I sense another member of the awkward squad at work. As this is back around to the "oversized" mark, are we going to have to do this all over again? Alai (talk) 02:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the template:Korea-museum-stub
Good job! I considered requesting the stub for article concerning Korean museums and you already did! Thank you very much for your effort. --Appletrees (talk) 12:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project
Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 06:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

South Africa stubs and serious sorting...
Not exactly, actually: it grew so much only because someone added` that category -- as a duplicate, mind -- to almost every single SA stub template. D'oh. I reverted and/or tweaked them all, but one might want to keep an eye on it for a while... Alai (talk) 16:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Your edit to Arthur Thomson (fanzines) has been reverted
Thanks for the effort, but Thomson was never a novelist (or indeed a fiction writer of any kind). As a writer, he was known for his work in science fiction fanzines. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Make some noise (album)
I proded this article Make Some Noise (album) because it both lacks sources, and duplicates the description of the album on Krystal Meyers' page. jonathon (talk) 02:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Japan business bio
Thanks for sorting through those articles. Was this just an oversight? Neier (talk) 13:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Mass. NRHPs
Thank you for the barnstar and for converting the Massachusetts templates to county specific templates. I use the Elkman generator which doesn't generate state specific templates, but maybe I can add some manually. Thanks again for your help. Swampyank (talk) 13:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

My humble thanks
I award you the Golden Stub for your truly diligent, civil, and tireless contributions to the Stub Sorting project. Great job on Armenia! Her Pegship  (tis herself) 17:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Bangaldesh geo-stubs
Hi WS - I've just moved one of your newly-made stub templates to Dhaka-geo-stub - you'd accidentally made it at Dhaka -geo-stub (with a space). Hope you don't mind :) Grutness...wha?  02:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

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Image size
Would you know how to decrease the size of the image used in Template:UK-motorcycle-sport-bio-stub?Orsoni (talk) 04:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Opera trouble
Hi. I was asked by an Opera project member to close the Opera stub proposal back in June. I looked at the proposal and it seemd a valid one given that you and Grutness and Pegship seemed to demonstrate initially that it was acceptable. If the outcome was so clear as to not create then I'm not sure why I was asked to close it if it was that obvious. Later some people seemd to back down because of the opposition it seemd to cause with some members of that project and the outcome really wasn't all that clear given the strength of the arguments that preceded it. I've created Template:Opera-struct-stub etc this morning which has over 130 stubs now in it but I seemded to have encountered opposition and dare I say it a bad faith response to my efforts at helping. Most of the ones I tagged were of a similar length to New National Theatre Tokyo etc which apparently isn't a stub according to WP:Opera I won';t make any further edits to the cause but I never thought the decision to create the major stub cateogries which all have well over 100 potential stubs would have caused such an uproar. I'm pretty annoyed at the moment with the treatment and threats to revert my sorting this morning so staying well away from now on. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera The Bald One      White cat 12:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Any idea why the new proposals aren't showing up on the main proposals page? EV-stub seems to be top The Bald One      White cat 15:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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KamenRider-stub
Hi Peg - this stub type has been undeleted (the creator wasn't notified and objected), so I've done a procedural relisting at SFD. Given that you commentedlast time, I though you should know. Grutness...wha?  23:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Pitcher stub sorting.
I noticed you're going around adding in Template:Baseball-pitcher-1910s-stub. However, we already have Template:1910s-baseball-pitcher-stub. Is this a gaffe or are we just moving everything over? Wizardman 16:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. I thought you were just duplicating them at first. Wizardman  16:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Cricket biography stub sorting
Thanks for your work on replacing the stub template england-cricketbio-stub with stubs broken down by decade of birth. However there's a slight problem. The wording of the original stub is "This biographical article related to English cricket is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." Your new stubs have "This biographical article related to an English cricketer born in the 1910s is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." Replacing the old stub by the new is inapproriate where the person was involved with cricket as a journalist or an administrator without having been a player at the top level. One example is Michael Melford, where somebody has just come along and removed your new stub as being inappropriate (but without having reinstated the original stub). Could you perhaps reword your stub templates to say something along the lines of: "This biographical article of a person involved with English cricket born in the 1910s is a stub." I concede that it's a little unwieldy. JH (talk page) 10:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Joel Adamson confusion
When I created the article I added him as a pitcher who pitched in the 1990s and you deleted it, adding a pitcher who was born in the 1970s. I left the link about him being born and added the pitcher in the 1990s link again and it was removed. I am confused. I even clicked on the link "You Can Help" but it didn't. I still maintain he played in the 1990s and that is a legitimate stub. I actually, as a baseball fan, could care less when a player was born. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Autkm (talk • contribs) 04:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Germany-mil-bio-stub
Thank you for the barn start, I did not know about the but I will use it from now Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)