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National varieties of English
Please see WP:MOS. "southeast" is American, "south east" is Commonwealth English (American English often joins words that are not concatenated in Commonwealth English). The article Battle of Berlin is written in Commonwealth English (WP:RETAIN). --PBS (talk) 17:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Shearer: The example of compass directions given in the Wikipedia MOS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS#National_varieties_of_English, and scroll down to "Directions and Regions") shows that the Commonwealth convention of spelling compass-point compounds is with a hyphen. I gladly accept that the Anglican style is to call the direction at issue "south-east," but I know the direction "south east" is incorrect in the American style, and I strongly suspect it is so even in the Queen's English, with which, admittedly, I am less familiar. I would urge you to review this in order to satisfy your own desire for good copy. If your research shows a continued misunderstanding on my part, I would like to hear from you.

Concerning dates, I should like to state that while I defer to your insistence on the "date month" style of presenting dates, I hope you will reconsider your insistence on rigid adherence to this style. I believe it somewhat monotonous and "militarese" to insist on it at every opportunity. Changing up date presentation (April 24th, e.g.) does not make the article less readable or precise; rather, it makes it seem, to this reader at least, less pretentious in tone. This is, after all, a Wikipedia article, not a report from the front line, and bits are cheap enough to indulge the occasional "th". In any event, I only touched these where I saw need to modify other aspects of sentences. I note that you have let some of my edits stand, and so I am glad to have been of some assistance.

Regards,

William Abernathy Wabernat 14:40, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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 * For south-east, south east and southeast, make a Google search on ["south east" site:gov.uk] and ["southeast" site:gov.uk]. I am not fussed whether south-east or south east is used, AFAICT both are used in British English, as the OED favours south-east if you wish to go through the article and change them from south east to south-east (north-west etc.) I would not revert such an edit.


 * --PBS (talk) 08:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, now I see what was troubling about this. The British South East is a region, a more-or-less proper name (In America, we refer to the Northeast, the South, the Southwest, etc., but, curiously, never the North). The hyphenated compound (usually lowercase) is adjectival, and describes a direction, "to the south-east," "the north-west sector," etc. So, we're both right: "South East" without the hyphen is proper Commonwealth English, and yet, not always used properly in context in this article.

All that being said, this is the sort of fine point that editors with too much time on their hands (which describes me too well) like to run to ground. As a bit of a drive-by editor, I won't likely revisit this article, but invite you to be mindful of the distinction moving forward, as I will be when reviewing articles written in the Commonwealth style.

Also, I must apologize for double-posting my response, supra, in your "Battle of Berlin" queue. I am still a bit new to Wikipedia. I'll try to delete this duplicative response, but if I can't dig it out, you're welcome to delete it.

--William

Wabernat 16:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk pages
I noticed your improvements to Flexography. I removed the education section per your comment on the talk page. While doing so, I cleaned up some style issues in accordance with WP:MOS which you might like to look at (diff). It looks like a lot of changes, but in fact it is just whitespace cleanup and rearrangement of punctuation (and removal of the education section).

Do you mind if I make a couple of suggestions re talk pages? To add this comment, I clicked the "new section" tab at the top of this page (I think you used "edit this page" to add your comment to Talk:Flexography). I notice above that you addressed someone by their formal name. That's very polite but it's not normal practice here. We usually don't need to address the person to whom we are replying, but when required it is standard to just use the username. I might say "Wabernat recommended deletion of the education section", and you might say "Johnuniq deleted it".

Finally, when leaving a message on a discussion (talk) page, at the end of the last line, type a space followed by four tilde characters (" "). Do not write your own name or the date – the four tildes provide a signature that you will see when you click "Show preview". Johnuniq (talk) 23:08, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Johnuniq: Thanks for the pointers. I revert to Chicago rules entirely too often. Wabernat 07:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: A barnstar reply
You're most certainly welcome Wabernat... thank you kindly for the lovely new barnstar! -- WikHead (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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