User talk:Waerth

For discussions about my work/reactions or if you simply want to swear at me please go to my Talk userpage: nl:Overleg gebruiker:Waerth reactions can be placed in Dutch, German, English, Afrikaans. Answers will be in Dutch or English.

Regarding Category:Lam... Oversight. I didn't realize there were duplicate articles, and by the time I realized it, I didn't have time to switch the category pages, so I just did it. Feel free to change it around. Tuf-Kat 04:57, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

As you mentioned you being on TV - you should tell me the name of that show, maybe it's one of those my wife can see via internet, and then I will join to watch Thai TV :-) andy 18:01, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thailand
I don't think the content of Wikipedia articles can be decided on the basis of what will offend the Thai government. Do you have any specific knowledge about Maha Vajiralongkorn and whether the statements made about his marriage at that article are correct or incorrect? Adam 01:34, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Do I understand you to say that Vajiralongkorn is divorced from his first wife and legally married to his second wife? In that case, are the children of his second marriage legitimate under Thai law? Are they in line to inherit the throne? Who is Vajiralongkorn's legal heir? Adam 00:30, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Bangkok meetup
I was actually in Bangkok at the beginning of this month talking about Wikipedia to Asian media folks, but I'll be back soon enough I hope. Yes, let's keep in touch. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 01:08, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Duplicate articles
The normal procedure for duplicate articles here is listen on Duplicate articles. But this case was a simple one - as Karl Rudolf Gerd von Rundstedt was a one-sentence stub with just one entry in its edit history I simply replaced it with a redirect. andy 21:51, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Featured article candidate
Hi, I've nominated Isan as a featured article candidate; any comments would be appreciated there or on the article talk page. Thanks, Markalexander100 09:46, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Bangkok Metro
I think the image Image:HuayKwangstation.png would have been better in JPG format, right now it's more than 1 MB, as a JPEG it would be more around 100k. PNG is normally only necessary for drawings like maps. andy 12:15, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * LOL originally it was JPG ..... but I transferred it to png ..... I don't know anymore with all of the controversy about pictures. It becomes to bothersome. I will think about it next time I make uploads. Waerth 12:20, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Picture
Hi Waerth, it is indeed my picture, and I've released it under CC-by-SA-2.0. I've updated the license, and you can copy that info over. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 02:42, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Andy in Thailand
Hi Waerth. It's rather likely that I will delay my trip to Thailand to early next year - the family party which was planned for Loy Krathong day has been postponed, but we don't know the new date yet. So sadly I will miss the opportunity to take photos of Loy Krathong, but the advantage is that our two trip don't overlap anymore. If you cannot wait to have a Wikipedia meetup in BKK feel free to do the first one without me, but if can wait till January (or eventually February, don't know yet) that's also fine for me. And we can also meet when you come to Netherlands in end of November. andy 16:27, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

History
The History of Australia is "all scooped up in one article," divided in the middle for reasons of length, as is the History of Thailand as I have rewritten it. Sukhothai and Ayutthaya were periods of Siamese / Thai history and should be treated as such, and the separate articles should redirect to the main article. Adam 08:35, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

New South Wales etc are current political subdivisions of Australia and thus have their own historical articles, just as we can have History of Issan or History of Bangkok for Thailand. Sukhothai and Ayutthaya are not current political divisions of Thailand. Neither were they states called "Sukhothai" or "Ayutthaya," they were Siamese kingdoms and are given these names by historians from their capital cities. They were not Mon or Malay or anything else. They were an integral part of Siamese history and should be treated as such. Adam 08:53, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Belarus
You never answered there User_talk:Rydel. But really... is there at least one Dutch person on this planet who speaks Belarusan and could write a normal entry about Belarus and Belarusan language in Dutch on nl.wikipedia.org? -- rydel 23:49, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thai wikipedians' notice board
To make sure we don't miss important discussions on Thai topics anymore I have created Thai wikipedians' notice board. andy 20:55, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

thanks from galipedia
Thanks for your ad over translations of one article. gl:user:Agremon

Dag!
scn:wikipedia is happy to have a crack at the translation of the week - thanks for the invite - dank u wel -pippu d'angelo

we've done our first translation of the week, on the three kingdoms of Korea - I'm just wondering whether we are meant to let you or someone know so that the stats can change, or at least how that bit of it is meant to work, thanks. --165.228.128.11 02:52, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC) -pippu

Hoi Waerth!
Thanks for your message about the translation of the week - I put it in our Caffi so people can have a look at it. Groetjes, cy:Defnyddiwr:Okapi

Thanks from me too, I think. But we don't currently have a fluent contributor to the Maori Wikipedia, so I doubt if anyone will be bringing Maori into the translation of the week project for a while. Robin Patterson 19:03, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi Waerth
In my very humble opinion, I reckon this is not really helping, I mean:

http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Overleg_gebruiker%3AMuijz&diff=0&oldid=593967

I caused trouble towards Muijz, Jimbo said I was wrong, so I have to bear the consequences. The consequences are in my eyes: making amends towards Muijz.

I don't see any other place to try to make these amends apart from Muijz's user talk page on Dutch Wikipedia (as you well know, I tried to make amends outside a user talk page not so long ago, which didn't work until I went to the user talk page of the concerned person in the end).

Probably the misunderstanding is at my side: I'd seen the message that you had emptied Muijz's user talk page at his request. I had not realised this would extend beyond the period he had been blocked (which had ended by the time I wrote my message, if I'm not wrong in my calculation).

So, maybe, if you think that a good idea, could you ask Muijz to end the systematic emptying of his user talk page, so that I (and the rest of the Dutch Wikipedia community) can read his first hand reaction to my offering amends?

May I ask, until amends are accepted (or finally rejected, which I hope would not be the case) by Muijz, to not erase this message here on your English user talk page?

Thanks!

--Francis Schonken 09:29, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi Waerth,

Thanks for your message. I'll do as you think best. Sorry, didn't know Muijz was still blocked.

Thanks for all your effort - I'm sorry for me having made more difficult.

--Francis Schonken 17:49, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Kazan
Hallo Waerth! Could you (or somebody who can do it) briefly translate this article in Dutch?

Thanks! --Untifler 19:48, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hello
Hiya. Thanks for the greeting :-) I'm afraid I'm just about to head to London for a few days, so can't stop to chat.   — KayEss | talk 02:53, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm back from London. It's far too cold there - much more pleasant here :-) Especially at this time of year.

I was wondering if there were any thoughts about a Thai Wikipedia meeting? — KayEss | talk 13:21, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Lojban translations
I don't have time to translate arbitrary articles (I have a lot of time taken up by commuting, and translating into Lojban requires inventing a lot of words), but I see someone's been doing them. -phma 06:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

being a comedian
I am very sorry that I reply so late. Actually, I am very interested in the job, being a comedian. But I am now very busy in both wikipedia and provate life as well. For wikipedia, I am a member of wikiproject world heritage sites. As for my provite, my life is really confused of judical cases due to my grandfather passed away. Thanks a lot to ask me to join your group and so sorry. --Ramendra 19:56, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

My love and thoughts
All my love and thoughts are with you at this difficult time. I know it must be hard right now to think of humor, of comedy, but remember this: people need to laugh, people need joy, and I hope you can bring it whenever and wherever you can. I wish for you all the strength you will need for these coming days.--Jimbo Wales 03:20, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Waerth, sorry I didn't see your message til today, and thanks for the invitation, but I went to Ayutthaya today (wonderful place) so I wouldn't have been able to come anyway. I am enjoying myself here and leave for Cambodia on Monday. Cheers, Adam 15:00, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

SurfNet
Complimenten met het SurfNet interview. JFW | T@lk  03:09, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Ik maak af en toe wat interwiki links op nl, maar ik heb het al veel te druk op en, en besteed liever mijn tijd aan het ontwikkelen van mijn Engelse schrijfstijl :-). Ik ben altijd beschikbaar om artikelen mbt Geneeskunde en Jodendom te editen op nl, maar liefst op uitnodiging. JFW | T@lk  11:21, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Belize
I'm fine so far Belizian 15:36, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Excellent, far better sources than those previously used on current events. -- Netoholic @ 17:49, 2005 Jan 21 (UTC)

Netoholic - respected Wikipedian? Are you kidding? []
 * Well maybe not by everyone but the against votes seemed mildly in my opinion only reacting to his lack of tact. At least he is logged in .... you are not. Waerth 18:54, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"revert war"
Grappig idee van een 'revert war' heb jij?

Wik = Gzornenplatz = Vandalbot, aangezien er nu een ArbCom case loopt over deze troll is de zaak relevant. De melding van JW is van lang voordat duidelijk werd dat Gz gewoon weer een reincarnatie van Wikipedia's meest notorieuze troll was. Jordi·✆ 23:14, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Zürich to Zurich
Zürich has been nominated on Requested moves for a page move to Zurich. Perhapse you might like to express your opinion about this proposed move on talk:Zürich. Philip Baird Shearer 10:01, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[Wikipedia-l] Expanding CheckUser permissions
Hi Waerth, in case you're not on this mailing list, just wanted to let you know that I cited some of your arguments from meta there (the mailing list discussion). --Duk 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

SBwiki & behaviour
Contrary to the assumption you made at User talk:Francis Schonken/Dutch, I would welcome you to work on SBWiki Policies and Guidelines, without preliminary conditions, since in good wiki-tradition contributions are weighed on the content, not on the person who wrote them.

Further your assumption that I would have had no understanding why you reacted like you did (on Dutch wikipedia) appears very questionable. Hey, did you ever understand why I reacted like I did on that same wikipedia? You assume you did, but I must say that didn't show in your behaviour...

--Francis Schonken 10:22, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Candidature
Yes, its me. --Francis Schonken 12:36, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Adminship JoJan
Thanks for your support (of in het Nederlands : bedankt voor je steun). JoJan 08:50, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

WHO ARE YOU???
What the hell are you doing? Now I am blocked again. I am getting extremely tired of this irresponsible behaviour from users with rights to block others here at Wikipedia. A user named Mario Roering is using the Wikipedia for misconduct and defamation of my person and genseiryu in general. For that reason AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE I am correcting his misconduct by removing links from Wikipedia pointing to sites with extreme misconduct and defamatory contents. It is censoring me, as I am a victim, when I cannot defend myself. THAT is both irresponsible and unintelligent behaviour from you. If you cannot understand that, then you certainly should not have the power to block other peoples IP. Especially not as you become an accessory to these violations of conduct and content as even stated by Wikipedia. I guess you do not adhere to the same rules, as everyone else has to do?? Or perhaps you know Mario Roering personally? You should not meddle in things you have no knowledge of, and you should in no way judge me when all I do is defending myself. I never changed anything except removing links that attacked ME. Mario Roering is using multiple accounts at Wikipedia in order to hide his activities. I am an honest person, and for this reason I use only ONE account. You should consider that as well.

Look forward to hearing from you VERY soon. As more time goes by, this will only be more time in which Mario Roering can continue his unchallenged misconduct and defamation of me. Do you have any responsibility in you? I hope so, and I look forward to receive your most prompt response. Please also see this page before answering: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JeremyA


 * Written by: User:Peter Lee Waerth 9 July 2005 15:52 (UTC)

Block on Dutch wikipedia
You have been blocked on Dutch wikipedia for one day for vandalizing a persons userpage multiple times even though you have been given a warning. Waerth 8 July 2005 22:23 (UTC)

Since you wanted me to explain ..... A) mishbehaviour on nl.wikipedia for a longer time. B) you received a warning in this case and you were warned before C) I removed the links on Mario Roerings page personally and gave him a warning in Dutch. So as opposed to what you are saying there is no-one defaming you in nl.wikipedia. D) I hope you and Mario will find other places to fight your fued. Because of the silliness of 2 grown men nl.wikipedia is now without an article with regards to your sport. E) I do not care who is wrong or right. You are blocked for 24 hours on nl.wikipedia ... Mario is on warning, he will receive the same block if he continues. Greetings from Bangkok, Thailand Waerth 9 July 2005 15:57 (UTC)

I do not agree with you even for just a second. Censoring one party over another, who is indeed breaking the rules of Wikipedia on so many occations with no regard to anyone or respect in general, is not the way to solve anything. My dispute with Mario Roering was brought forward by himself. His misconduct and defamation should be reason enough for my actions. If you cannot see that, then I only that you would become the victim of such behaviour yourself. Then perhaps you would understand what I am talking about. If Wikipedia (and I have the understanding that Wikipedia cannot) handle this kind of behaviour, when a person (Mario Roering) keep editing and forcing his lies and twisted perceptiong of his so-called facts onto Wikipedia articles, and at the same time without any kind of warning of consequence uses and exploits Wikipedia to fight his personal wars. THAT is what is the problem. You should take your time to understand this, as you clearly does not. You claim that he does not put any defamatory links or text on Wikipedia. Which stone did you crawl out under? He is doing nothing else. That is his entire purpose here at Wikipedia. You als claim to have removed all these links and given Mario Roering a warning for doing so?? Well, I don't see it. The links are still there. And that is on ALL of his user pages, no matter what language you claim to have removed the links on. So, once again, where is the responsibility at? This certainly does not look good on Wikipedia's record. But actually I don't care about that, I only care whether or not you are partial, and if you can stand behind your words or not? Are you going to remove the links? Peter Lee 13:23, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

You have written one sentence containing absolute nonsense on my discussion page. I have done nothing here at Wikipedia except removing from Mario Roering's userpage links with obvious defamatory contents. You even wrote that you had removed these from his page, and that you have warned him about continuing this behaviour. STILL you have NOT removed these links. In addition it can be seen on Mario's userpage (history) that he today updated the link without any reaction on your part. WHY NOT??? So no matter what you say, the blocking of my account can only be considered a way to censor me, and to make sure that Mario can continue his actions at Wikipedia. In this regard I must point your attention to my userpage, as Mario (although misplaced) has put a message to YOU on my talkpage. I wanted to remove it, but I will give you the chance to read it first. The articles about Genseiryu are so filled up with errors, mistakes and diliberate inaccurate information, lies and twisted contents in regard to the truth. What I have done ever since I saw these lies and incorrect information, was to correct and delete them. I get blocked. If you want to solve this matter once and for all, then you should do as promised. REMOVE the links with obvious defamatory contents from Mario's homepage. If you check out the links, you will see that Angelfire (where this page was hosted) has been deleted from Angelfire's servers. This is the FOURTH time Angelfire (Lycos) has done this. They are responsible people taking a complaint SERIOUS. After having investigated the pages, they agree that the contents of these pages contain text of misconduct and obvious defamatory contents. So if you see that Angelfire has closed the page, then now you know the reason. The other thing to do, would be to delete and remove EVERYTHING in regard to Genseiryu on Wikipedia. As long as anyone takes time to write lies, obvious defamatory issues, diliberate incorrect information etc. the edit war will continue of course. If Wikipedia cannot find another more suitable solution to the problem, then THAT must be the solution. The pages must be deleted. I have earlier on many occasions made it clear to you and other so-called SYSOPS that these articles has no place at Wikipedia because of too much dispute. It is as simple as that. At the moment only TWO people fight this fight. But if you are clever, you should know that both sides have about 50 people ready to step in. That of course is not a threat, but I have urged Wikipedia to stop this nonsense a long time ago. Nobody would listen. The present situation is thus a situation created solely by the SYSOPS at Wikipedia who simply does not care about the problem. That attitude simply is not an attitude used for solving anything. I wait for your reply. Peter Lee 20:24, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

It has NOT been REMOVED
Why do you claim that the defamatory links on Mario's userpage etc. has been removed when it has not? Are you really that careless? If you would take a look for once on Mario's userpage especially, you would notice, that the links in questions are STILL there, has never been removed, and will always be updated by Mario to be included in the page. ARE you going to do something about it, or are you still just keeping to claim something that is indeed that, just a claim? Are you ever going to admonish Mario for his behaviour, warn him never to include such contents in the future, or are you simply on a crusade to keep censoring me? So far I am in no way impressed with your involvement. Peter Lee 10:55, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

-I was not aware that you had sysop rigths only on the Dutch section. Thank you for clearing that up. Still I do not agree with you though. The one link has been removed, I can see that of course, but the link to his "Forum" has not been removed. This forum is indeed also created with the one purpose only, namely to continue misconduct and defamation of my person. So it would only be fair to remove this as well. As long as it is there, I see no difference from then and now. Peter Lee 13:42, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Lojban Wikipedia
Thanks for letting me know. I haven't been on jbo or meta lately, and not much on en either. -phma 21:01, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

the nonsense continues
(spamming you, since you also participated in the discussion:) The deleted-per-VfD Polish Wikipedians' Black Book, which was resurrected at User:Halibutt/Black Book has, since Jimbo Wales commented on the first resurrection's talk page, been resurrected as User:Halibutt/Black book. Despite my request for clarification on the talk page there, I have received nothing but accusations of vandalism from a troll who has since been banned for a week for repeated personal attacks (against me and others). Any ideas for how to proceed would be greatly appreciated. Tomer TALK 04:05, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Fundraising pages in Thai language
I have to translate Fundraising pages into Thai language at Translation requests/WMF/Fundraising pages/ช่วยสนับสนุน, and it needs to update to Wikimedia foundation site (you are user on foundation site and I think you can edit it :-) -- WATCHARA  KO я N undefined 08:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Name format of people in Asian cultures
Hi Waerth, presently I'm working on the naming conventions (people) proposal, which is meant as an explicitation of naming conventions (common names) applied to articles on people.

A wikipedian remarked that in most Asian cultures the usual name format is not a "First name" followed by a "Last name". I have no clue regarding these cultures, I mean, I know somewhat about the Western cultures (including some about antiquity), but thought I'd better ask someone who knows both cultures. For me an example like:"Porntip Nakhirunkanok (I just chose a random Thai name)"seems like a "First name" ("Porntip") followed by a "Last name" ("Nakhirunkanok"). Is that correct? Or just a miguided idea of a Westerner? And whether or not it would be "correct" for Thai: have you any idea how it works in other Asian cultures?

Thanks if you could give some info - for example on Wikipedia talk:naming conventions (people). That would be a great help! --Francis Schonken 10:11, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Sathon
Recent roadsigns (the green sign with white letters) use the new spelling pioneered by The Royal Institute (ราชบัณฑิตสถาน). See and look for "หลักเกณฑ์ต่างๆ" menus on the lower left side of page for all the rules (pdf files in Thai). "Sathorn" still appears in old signs. -- Lerdsuwa 04:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Woodstock Pub
Woodstock Pub has been proposed for deletion. Please see the article for details. NickelShoe 22:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * For the record, I've been to the Woodstock pub, while I was in the US Navy, and while it is a wonderful place, it's not notable. Nothing important has happened there, and it's not considered a bastion of Bangkok.  This is the stuff that Wikitravel was created for.  I'm going to recommend the article for AFD, but I would also highly recommend that the article be moved to Wikitravel as well.--み使い Mitsukai 13:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, small. Note I said "relatively small", meaning relative to the native population.  Unless you have some claims that there are more foreigners in Bangkok or in Thailand on a constant basis than the natives, then my statement is true and it stands as such.  Additionally, note that I said I was there visiting while in the USN.  That means I didn't live there and make no claims to having done so, so for your statement that I know nothing about the expat community may be true, I don't have to know much to know about relative sizes.
 * Secondly, you claim that it's mentioned in books and songs, yet you have no citations on these. In fact, until the article was prodded, that much wasn't even added.  There is no proof that the place is notable, even though it is a wonderful place.  Unless you provide proof, WP:HOLE applies.
 * Lastly, Wikitravel was created for stuff such as this. It may not be a Wikimedia project, but that has not stopped people from copying things over there before.  As I said before, I highly recommend that you do so, regardless of the results of this article.--み使い Mitsukai 01:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Meta:Image:Userwaerth.jpg
Hello. Since this is a photo of you, I wanted to ask you if you want to continue using this photo on Meta, or any other project. If not, then the photo will be deleted, since it is not being used anywhere. Please let me know at my EN page about what you wish to do. Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:28, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's funny how a photo would be deleted if it isn't being used right now, right away. Isn't there such a thing as "future, potential use"?  Besides, it really does take effort to upload, categorize, and otherwise describe an image, yet takes but a second to dump all that.  Wouldn't "benefit of the doubt" be a better policy?  A-giau 09:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Monica de Bruyn
When this article was proposed for deletion last year, you voted to keep it, with the comment that she's notable in the Netherlands. I agree with you that notability in the Netherlands is enough; the person doesn't need to be notable in the United States. I'm curious whether you still consider her notable in the Netherlands. The article has been renominated for deletion. I hope you will look in here long enough to comment. JamesMLane t c 10:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Blokkade op de Nederlandse Wikipedia
Graag uw stem voor mijn deblokkade op de pagina http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blokkeringsmeldingen#Voor_opheffing_van_de_blokkade: Extremely sexy 22:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Dutch pronunciation
Hello Waerth, I'm from Thai Wikipedia. I have a problem pronouncing a Dutch name. I'm wondering if you can help me - Aldo van Eyck Thank you --Manop - TH 18:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

translation
i can help with some translation norwegian-english

Thai Wikipedia
Hello Waerth,

Khun Pi@k, the first one who resigned, is the only active bureaucrat at that time. He told in his talk page that he had been very busy with his projects. He still can help and be active, but cannot take care of the admin stuff. Then he decided to resign.

The other three who has been inactive for a year resigned one week after Khun Pi@k did. --Manop - TH 19:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Maps of Bangkok Districts
My intention was to create maps for all central Bangkok districts - enough to cover BTS and maybe MRT network. But I haven't touched the project in months. -- Lerdsuwa 14:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Watthana was about 25% finished before I stopped working on it. District boundaries, roads, BTS & MRT routes are already done. I will go back to the map, probably will be done in a week. Other districts will have to wait but I put your home districts (Din Daeng or Huai Khwang) in high priority. :) -- Lerdsuwa 07:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am now in Thailand but I have to travel a lot. I am also rather busy recently. Weekdays and weekends are all tied up. -- Lerdsuwa 09:34, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thai Comedygroups
Cool. I could help with Thai part. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 17:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sorting of people on first name?
Hi. This rule exists long before I joined Wikipedia. The rule was written in the Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles) back in 2004. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 09:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Amseltveen
Hi I'm currently attempting to edit Amstelveen, I'd be grateful for some supervision if you have time. I'd like to know if there is a project for tidying, redoing and MoS and such. Strukjes! --  Piandao   12:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

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