User talk:Waggers/Archive 1

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Voting on arbitration cases
Hi. Just so you know, only Arbitrators (see WP:AC) are allowed to place votes on arbitration pages. Thanks for your interest. If you have any proposals to make, please go to Requests for arbitration/Pedophilia userbox wheel war/Workshop. Cheers, Sam Korn (smoddy) 22:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC).
 * D'oh! Thanks Sam.  I'll go through and remove my votes :)

(Shouldn't access be restricted to arbitrators on those pages then? [shrug])


 * Please stop editing the ArbCom proposed decision page. This is your last warning. Sam Korn (smoddy) 22:23, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Have done, Sam. I was only trying to remove the votes I made in error.  I see that someone has beaten me to it though.

Hi, Waggers. I think your suggestion that the pages should be restricted is reasonable, but in practice we don't like to do that. We try to keep to the wiki principle that everybody can edit any part of the site. It's usually evident (as in this case) when somebody has made an innocent mistake. We do have a mechanism that restricts edits to administrators, but we don't use it that much, and usually then not for very long.

Presently we're protecting the George W. Bush article from edits by new users and anonymous IPs (people who aren't registered or haven't logged in), but this is quite controversial and we feel that it was forced on us by a preposterously high rate of vandalism--even we get impatient when about 70% or all edits to an article are either vandalism or reverts of vandalism. Welcome to Wikipedia. --Tony Sidaway 23:33, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that clarification, Tony. I hope I haven't caused too much inconvenience with my bungling attempts to get involved! Waggers 23:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Not at all. This might amuse you a little. If you want to discuss an ongoing arbitration case, by the way, there is always a workshop page that you can go to for the case. You can enter your own proposals and make comments on the proposals of others, and these will be read by the arbitrators who will adopt those that they are swayed by. There is a link to the workshop page near the top of each of the other pages. --Tony Sidaway 00:26, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Genesis articles
Thanks for the help with the Genesis wikifications. I neglected to wikify No Son of Mine in there. Keep it up ! :) Alex 22:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Just wanted to stop by and second Tony's welcome, as well as saying I think it's refreshing to see a new user who has the desire to get involved. Don't worry to much about having caused any problems; just about anything can be fixed easily. (As for Sam, he gets his knickers in a twist sometimes.) ;-) If you ever need help with anything, let me know. Oh, and have one of these:

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Well done
We thank you for your speedy work in reverting vandalism. ems 11:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks ems, it's always nice to receive some friendly encouragement. Waggers 22:28, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

my new/final RfA
Hi Waggers!

First and foremost, I must express my thanks for your support in my RfA and general approval of my views of POV vs NPOV. It is always nice to know you are not alone in your opinions! Unfortunately, it looks as though are large number of opposing voters have appeared and I would be extremely surprised if my new RfA passed... which is fairly disheartening considering that I was around 1 hour from succeeding last time!

In any case - it has been an interesting experience - one thing I can take from it is that someone with a clear thought process should learn to control the focus of their views. As I am wholly unable to pretend I do not have a clear POV, I doubt I will apply for adminship again. It seems fairly clear from this second submission that I am better off sticking to what I do best! Especially considering that I am "not yet a wikipedian"!

Anyway, many warm thanks for your support, and don't hesitate to give me a shout if you ever need my assistance for anything in particular.

Regards, DJR (Talk) 19:55, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, for the Galatasary work
I do think that their fans feel unfairly blamed, but the incident/killings is worthy of mention. The only questions are where and how. John wesley 15:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC) Do you notice a pattern? John wesley 15:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * See my reply here Waggers 15:44, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Our friend Met Boy 1982 just did a Doug Flynn. John wesley 18:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Do you read the discussion before reverting?
Do you read the discussion before reverting? Why did you revert my edits? They were not vandalism as you stated in your canned missive.

(The previous unsigned comment was left by User:68.62.150.155 at 09:07, 25th February 2006 (UTC).)
 * See my reply here. Waggers 09:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. I don't think I will be doing any extensive editing on Wiki in the future so I think I will pass on creating an account, but your point is understandable. I have added a signature to my comments on the Jeremy Glick discussion page as you recommended. I would appreciate it if you would check out the point I made on the JG discussion and see if you think it is valid. Does my edit still appear to be vandalism? I came across this article by chance and found it extremely biased. Most of the article is a biased recap of the interview, IMO. I dont think this is neccessary as a link to a transcript of the interview and a video clip is available. I am curious how you feel about it.68.62.150.155 10:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * See my reply here. Waggers 15:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I am glad to see resonable people here on Wiki, perhaps I was too hasty in passing judgement on Wiki.68.62.150.155 19:59, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

RfA question
I have tried to answer your question to the best of my ability at WP:RFA/Ian13 2. Please feel free to review it and ask further questions as and when you feel nessary. Ian13/talk 16:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * See my reply here. Waggers 20:12, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I am glad I have been able to assist you. Ian13/talk 20:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Parishes
Hurrah! Now time to start on the letter 'B'? ;) Morwen - Talk 13:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
r ƒa · ɐƒɹ Thank you for supporting me in my request for adminship! It ended with a tally of 39/5/4, and I am now an admin. I'm glad to have earned the trust of the community, and I will make use of it responsibly. Of course, you can let me know of any comments or concerns you have.

With a million articles in front of me, I'd better get mopping.

 r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  05:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC) 

My RfA
Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA succeeded with a final consensus of 52/17/7, and receiving comments including having 'excellent potential to become a great moderator', and I am now an administrator. It did however only just pass, and I shall do my very best to rectify any of my errors, including the general belief that I should do more article work. If you have any concerns, or if you ever feel that I may be able to help you, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you! Ian13/talk 19:33, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your support of my RfA
Thank you for your support of my successful request for adminship. I am honoured that the nomination was supported unanimously and that the community expressed confidence that I would use the tools wisely. If you have any concerns please let me know on my talk page. Regards A Y  Arktos 20:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
P.S. If you are interested in The Beatles, User:Lar has asked me to tag on a little note advertising the creation of a new Beatles WikiProject that we are currently setting up. Please sign up and help.

RfA/Christopherlin - ticking every box
Thanks for your support vote in my recent RfA. It closed without consensus at (22/11/8). I hope that you'll keep me in mind for future RfAs. --Christopherlin 16:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support in my RfA
Just wanted to drop a quick note — nothing fancy! — to say thanks for your vote of confidence in my recent request for adminship. As you might have noticed it was unsuccessful; most objections related to my lack of experience. While I disagree that nearly 4000 edits, whether spread over two months or ten, constitutes a lack of experience, I respect the vote and will try again at a later date. I'm disappointed that I won't be able to help out in the meantime as much as I could with admin access, but again I appreciate your support and hope I'll have it the next time I am nominated. &rArr; BRossow T/C 18:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Docuvision
You tagged this page for speedy deletion, with the reason "It's an advert". I wanted to let you know that I have removed this tag, because "It's an advert" currently is not one of our criteria for speedy deletion. Please see the list on that page for what actually can be listed for speedy deletion, and see WP:PROD for an alternative way to get rid of pages like that. Thanks! Stifle 13:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * My reply is here Waggers 13:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Puppet.
Thanks for fixing my fix on puppet,

I'm still getting the hang of popups!

Orangutan 14:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * (My reply here Waggers 14:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Removing non-printing space in articles
I noticed that, in a recent edit of Buffyverse, you removed single blank lines between headings in addition to removing the unnecessary buffyverse-stub tag that you mentioned in your edit summary. Might I ask that you not do this space removal? It helps editors notice section breaks more readily, especially for long articles, and doesn't affect the display. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

User page
Thanks for the revert. As usual I didn't notice for a couple of days. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

re Richard Ward
I moved this from a speedy to AfD. I thought there was enough assertion of notability for it to rate a chance at discussion. Herostratus 05:07, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism from my IP? I think not..
I got this message today:

Please refrain from removing content from Wikipedia, as you did to Cricket. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Waggers 11:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, I didn't post any vandalism or do anything to that article. In fact, I've never seen that article. I didn't delete anything, nor could I; I don't have a user account, and from my understanding you need at least a basic user account to edit things.

Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding, but there's no way any vandalism came from me. Just wanted to clear it up. Thanks, Felix

Feel free to drop me an email from http://linuxownzwindows.com/message.html

(The above unsigned message was left at 15:32, 15 March 2006 by 24.77.131.31)


 * My reply is here. Waggers 09:44, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

John Boy and Billy and related articles
User:63.226.38.196 invites User:Waggers to comment on the most recent post to User_talk:63.226.38.196 found under the section heading of "John Boy and Billy and related articles" Thanks, -- 63.226.38.196 07:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * My response here Waggers 09:44, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * User:Waggers is invited to comment on the most recent posting here. Thanks, -- 12.106.111.10 17:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!
Just wanted to say thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page! :) Hbackman 22:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hello and thanks for reverting vandalism to my user page! Misza 13 T C 12:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Im not vandalisng the page, Deathrocker was banned for one month for threatening admins and vandalising various pages including the Nu Metal page, after his block ended he came back and vandalised the page again, changing it back to what he put before, so im not vandalising by reverting someone who is vandalising the same article they got banned for a month for vandalising in the first place

(That unsigned comment was left at 17:41, 23 April 2006 by 81.157.90.13.)


 * My response is here. Waggers 16:49, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I didnt mean to change that part, and im sorry because that wasnt what i meant to do, i was trying to just change back the part deathrocker changed, so im sorry for causing trouble, i was just trying to revert deathrockers vandalism —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.157.90.13 (talk • contribs) 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Southampton Bassett Green.PNG
Hi there. You uploaded Image:Southampton Bassett Green.PNG on 28/02/2006 indicating that the image was public domain, but forgot to tag it as such. Could you take a minute to tag it with ? Since it's a free image, you might also want to consider uploading it to the Wikimedia Commons, to allow other projects to make us of it. Thanks. Rob Church (talk) 20:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

XANES, NEXAFS and the attack of the sock puppet army
Your tag has been removed from XANES. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics for related discussion. Alison Chaiken 14:20, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar


Hey Waggers, I noticed you around doing good work, and I thought I'd stop by and leave you a barnstar to say "Thanks for the good work!" Good job, keep it up! Essjay ( Talk  • Connect  ) 08:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hiya


 * Thanks so much for presenting me with my first barnstar - it means a great deal to me, so many many thanks. Waggers 11:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome; you're doing a good job. If you have any questions, or need anything, feel free to let me know; I'm always here to help! Essjay ( Talk  • Connect  ) 12:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Mourinho Mission
A few month's ago you left a message about editing the Jose Mourinho page. I recently edited the page and left a comment on the discussion page, as you yourself had done. I have just checked the page today (8th June 2006) and some lowlife has vandalised it. Is there any possible way you could safe guard the page so it will not be desecrated and defiled again by ignorant and envious fools. Thank you. Rory W-A

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.26.57.193 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 8 May 2006 (GMT).

Mourinho Mission
A few month's ago you left a message about editing the Jose Mourinho page. I recently edited the page and left a comment on the discussion page, as you yourself had done. I have just checked the page today (8th June 2006) and some lowlife has vandalised it. Is there any possible way you could safe guard the page so it will not be desecrated and defiled again by ignorant and envious fools. Thank you. Rory W-A —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.26.57.193 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 8 May 2006 (GMT).

BRAD (British Rates and Data)
Hi,

This page is not a commercial page, I am a media planner and was hoping to expand the information that is under the different tools used.

Any help with content on Media Planners, Media Buyers would be appreciated, but please dont delete this entry.

Cheers,

Donut 15:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Please AWB with more care
AWB must be used with care, you have fixed a spelling mistake that is intentional! See here. I know how easy it is to do, because I have done it myself before now... Gaius Cornelius 21:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * (My reply is here) Waggers 08:27, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi there! JackLumber here. Just to suggest that you use... AWB with care :-) And, FYI, "different to" is incorrect in American English as much as "different than" is in British. Generally speaking, "different from" is the safest choice---but it's preferable that an article written in British [resp. American] English use British [resp. American] conventions, grammar, terminology, etc. (Your "color" edit was wrong anyway you slice it, tho! ;-) Best, --JackLumber 19:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I just found out there are more... well, you might want to revert them all! (I just fixed a few.) --JackLumber 19:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Steranko
(See my side of this conversation here!)Waggers 14:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Hiya. Just wondering, and I'm not planning on changing anything since it's such a small thing in a list, but is "different to" a Britishism? The term is unfamiliar to me. (It's "differant than" or "different from" in American English.) Thanks for any info, and all best wishes... -- Tenebrae 14:00, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You got me thinking I should look it up in the ol' Strunk & White. Turns out we're both a little right and a little wrong. According to that source, it's "different from" only. Whaddya know ... I learned (or at least was reminded) of something myself! -- Tenebrae 14:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

'different than/to/from'
I saw your recent discussion above, but have one thing to add: "different than" cannot always be replaced with "different from". There are a few constructions in which the former work (probably even in British English), but the latter won't. For instance, I think one of these occurs in Beagle Boys, a page you changed to read "he looked different to he did on the show" which I don't think would be accepted even in the UK, whereas the original "he looked different than he did on the show" would be, I assume.

As an aside, you might be interested in this. One thing it shows is that "different to" is much rarer in the U.S. than "different than" is in the UK. -R. S. Shaw 19:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * My reply is here. Waggers 11:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * In articles where American English is used, you can leave constructions like "he looked different than he did on the show," as it's completely standard in the U.S. Best, --JackLumber 19:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Here's my reply Waggers 08:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Durrington-on-Sea
Hi Waggers, I've actually come across you from your discussion with JackLumber regarding "different from" 'abuse' (I hate different to/than!), and had a look at your User Page (thought you sounded British!). I had a look at your "UK geography to do list" to see if there was anything interesting or anything I could help with - 'fraid not at the moment. But I did notice a request for an article on "Durrington-on-Sea", which I assumed means "Durrington, West Sussex". (I know this probably isn't the right place for these comments but don't know where is, so I'm putting them here in the hope that you can copy them elsewhere if appropriate.) I lived in Durrington for a few years in the late '50s (!), went to school there for 7 years, and some of my family 'permanently resident' there (in the cemetry!). I had always understood that the place name is "Durrington", whereas the rail station name is "Durrington-on-Sea" (not sure whether it should be hyphenated) to avoid confusion with another "Durrington" station. So I Googled it: the vast majority of results on the first 6 pages (didn't look further) are to the rail station, altho' some refer to the place. The Ordnance Survey's gazetteer lists "Durrington, West Sussex" and "Durrington-on-Sea Station, West Sussex". So I'm suggesting that the "UK geography to do list" should list "Durrington, West Sussex", not "Durrington-on-Sea" and the above info should be included as appropriate. Hope this is helpful rather than pendantic! -- TrevorD 11:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

On further thoughts, maybe I should just start a stub article and a redirect? Comments appreciated. -- TrevorD 12:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * My belated response is here - Waggers 09:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject National Health Service
Thnaks for your comment on the project page - I started the project just to see what help could be garnered for dealing with the NHS in Wikipedia - I am only semi-attached to the NHS myself, so all and any assistance is greatly welcomed. It's a bit difficult knowing where to start. I've entered whatever I could find into Category:National Health Service and where appropriate given them an NHS-stub. There are an awful lot of red-links in the existing articles as well. So they and the stubs give some sort of starting point. I attacked the main article National Health Service, clearing it up, making some corrections, and splitting off new articles for the devolved NHS.

What is still needed is some sort of overall structure. I guess this could start to come about through sub categories (e.g. NHS hospitals, NHS personnel, NHS Trusts, NHS Special Agencies, NHS legislation......).

Anyway, whatever you are willing to do, please do it and credit yourself here. As others (I hope) join in, we should be able to develop a more coherent programme. I am considering ways of advertising the project - please do also spread the word yourself if you are in touch with anyone likely to be interested. Best regards - --Smerus 12:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

warned that ip
for the personal attack you noted at WP:AIV Kaisershatner 15:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: University of Southampton
Hi Nick, I noticed that you removed the fact that Hartley's original ambition was to set up a harem from the above article. This is a fact (albeit a surprising one), not vandalism, and is sourced from the book referenced at the bottom of the article. The book states that the city council of the time ignored Hartley's wishes and founded a purely educational institute in his name instead. I know it might not be a fact that we wish to promote, but in the interests of the NPOV policy and completeness, I think it should stay in. I'll add a cite tag to make sure it's clear the information is sourced. Waggers 09:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I didn't realise it was actually correct. Haha! It had that sort of look of the usual academic institution page vandalism, you see; but this case, it was a proper claim. Well then, it should certainly stay in the article - sourced, as you suggest. It is amusing, as I may be attending this university in September, to think that the place at which one shall study was in fact borne out of a desire to open a heram. :) Thanks for watching the article, and for letting me know. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 15:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Blogg vs. Blog on Bloggs
Why is there a link to a nonexistent page "Blogg" on the Bloggs page? Shouldn't it be changed to "Blog"? Jaysbro 19:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * (my reply is here Waggers 21:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

you left me a message???
Hello,

I've just found the message about me having added something to Wikipedia...I have no clue what this is all about. Please explain???
 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.218.108 (talk • contribs) 05:44, 7th June 2006 BST
 * Here's my reply - Waggers 08:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

NHS stubs
Hi there! After a lot of rattling sround, my attempt to validate the use of NHS-stubs and reclaim Category:NHS stubs from the name 'UK medical organisation stubs' (given to it when hardly anyone was looking' has now reached the subs proposal list, here.  One contributor has suggested it ought to be named Category:National Health Service stubs, which is fine by me. If you are in favour of either version, which would give us a clear 'dedicated' list of stubs which the WikiProject could attack, please go to the proposal article and vote accordingly. All best regards - --Smerus 04:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Current Events edit
Hey. Thanks for catching this; I was using popups to clear vandalism on this page when I realized that the vandal had done several versions. Thought I'd caught it before the change went through. I was in the process of finding an unvandalized page to revert to when you got there. Quick work, though - nice job. Tony Fox 21:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * My reply is here. Waggers 21:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Change to Greenbank, WA
I'm a novice user of Wikipedia so didn't know about adding an edit summary. I do, however, know quite a bit about Greenbank, as that's the town where my parents live and my husband and I own property. I knew that the population figure of 2500 was far off base. The figures I have seen are around 220. I believed I was making a correction of a wildly inaccurate number rather than "vandalizing" which it what you accused me of doing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.29.197.150 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 14 June 2006 BST


 * Here is my response. Waggers 22:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Do not remove tags, add
Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please place hangon on the page and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. --72.139.119.165 20:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * See my response here. - Waggers 19:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:AIV
Please do not list users (like ) on WP:AIV until they have vandalized several times and have been given a final warning (one with Image:Stop hand.svg, such as {{subst:test4}}, {{subst:bv}}, and possibly {{subst:test3}}) in the last few hours. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;   &spades;  21:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

You've been...
Vandalized! Have a nice day! --Alphachimp talk  17:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)