User talk:Wahoofive


 * Archive of non-music-related stuff
 * Archive of music stuff

Link FA
Are you sure you aren't mistaking the emu emu vandalism Mindspillage removed for an effect of Link FA?--Gmaxwell 05:41, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, that must have been it. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 14:46, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Time Signature
I did alot of editing on this page but my changes seem to have disappeared! Are they being kept for some other use or should I retype them in?--GClef 17:56, 13 September 2005
 * Click on the History tab at the top of the page to see if somebody changed them back. I don't see your screen name there at all; are you logging in when you do edits? &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 17:35, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * No - I didn't realise I needed to; I'm relatively new at this. Should I get a proper username - i.e., one in blue, as opposed to red?  But (two minutes later), upon checking, I see that someone did in fact remove that whole section.  I shall take the opportunity to ask you, W'five, should I put that information under Compound Metre, or is it better on the Time Signature page, in which case might you restore it?  I'm reverting to my FClef name, which I prefer.?--FClef 22:25, 13 September 2005
 * Not being sure which edits you mean, I can't tell whether I like them. This edit added quite a bit about compound time signatures, which is still there. Yes, I encourage you to log in when you edit. This allows you to keep a Watchlist and makes it easier for others to contact you -- as you are contacting me -- and determine which edits are yours, plus it automates signatures -- I never have to type my username but can just type ~ . For more information see Why create an account?. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 23:57, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. My changes ARE still there! (sweet mystery of life: they were gorn yesterday) I have created an account. But I can't understand why my name is still in red and yours is in blue. What is the significans of the symbols you type before your tildes when signing out (the bit about the mdash)? How do I join wikipedian Musicians and is it necessary? Any other steps I should take? Many thanks for guidance. &mdash;FClef 16:13, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
 * When you click on my screen name, you get to my user page, which I created. Yours is red just because it's empty. Click on your red name and you can put something there; then it will be blue (or purple).
 * If you add the text somewhere on your user page, you'll show up in the category. It's strictly optional.
 * Normally when you sign with the four tildes, it just puts your screen name and the date. I've customized my signature to add the mdash and the talk link. This is also optional; you can do it via the "Preferences" link at the top. See Preferences. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 16:30, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Capitalization
Must've mixed up the left and right columns when reviewing history. Fixed. ¦ Reisio 16:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Fake color articles
Because of the complexity of the vote at the above AfD, I have attempted to break down the individual votes on the AfD talk page. If I have misunderstood your vote with respect to any of these, please correct it. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 12:55, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

back off
Don't accuse me of writing shit that i didn't- I always sign my name when I write comment. This article is not spam anyway to respond to your post- what, are you in with the deletionist crowd or something? Moreover, don't write my username at all unless you are addressing me. 19:15, 21 September 2005 (UTC)tparker393

Love the Lists of Songs proposal
Thank you!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!! I have a new wiki-hero!!! :) Xoloz 04:36, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it! &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 05:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I'll go and digest that proposal. Your proposal would take care of a number of lists I consider to be unencyclopedic. But I'm afraid it would also kill List of songs with nonsense lyrics. It probably needs some perfecting to get wide-spread support, but it's a good start. - Mgm|(talk) 07:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Color AfD's
Hi. The mass of colors we voted on before has been undeleted and relisted as individual AfD's. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 01:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Do You Feel Like We Do
Wahoofive,

I have expanded the article considerably and added references so that it is now longer a stub. I would be grateful if you could have a look at it. Capitalistroadster 10:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nice job. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 15:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)
Hi. You left a neutral comment at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) recently. Could I impose on you to update that to support or oppose as you see fit, just to make sure your intentions are not misinterpreted? Thanks. --RoySmith 00:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Saying farewell
Wahoo,

I guess you're not aware that I've been enduring an RfA that has gone hideously wrong - indeed it's turned into an abusive, highly personal trial. In five days, it has turned me from a loyal, hard-working Wikipedian into an enemy. I'm so disgusted with the process that I'm walking out (with the two excerpts, regrettably, since I arranged the copyright, and the owner has readily agreed to withdraw permission). It's all very sad and unexpected.

I do wish you, RobertG et al the best in making the musical part of WP as good as possible.

Tony 21:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Czech hip hop
Hi, Ive just found that you were categorizing Czech hip hop, so why Hip hop, Czech? Because than it is in Hip hop by nationality under H!:(
 * I have no idea what you're talking about. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 21:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok, don´t worry. Ill do it.

WikiProject Tunings, Temperaments, and Scales
Would you be interested in joining my proposed WikiProject, WikiProject Tunings, Temperaments, and Scales? —Keenan Pepper 05:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I've watchlisted it for now. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 06:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

? deletion
Could someone please take a look at article Pádraig. This article seems to be nothing more than a self advertisement by a young person who is not yet sufficiently know to have an article done about him. Is it suitable for Wikipedia or should it be deleted. If kept it may result in a flood of similar pages from millions of people? NB: I live in the area concerned and have never heard of him. 86.2.136.146 13:10, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Authentic performance
I see you have deleted the reference to Dolmetsch's book in the "books" section. I thought this book represented a landmark in the movement for authentic performance in the 20th century. I'm curious as to why you deleted it? Bluewave 08:31, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Tedernst removal of red-links from dab pages
Examples as requested - here for your consideration; what bothers me as much as the actions are a) the stated like for the "be bold - revert - discuss" paradigm (see the current thread) which I think is kind of childish and b) the edit note "if noteable, write the article!" brandished like some accusation of _how DARE you dirty up this page with your trash_. Enough of this digging, though; I feel kind of dirty and childish myself doing this detective work. User:Ceyockey 05:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Cabal (disambiguation) (consider this and this)
 * Abraham Lincoln High School (consider this)
 * The Four Seasons (consider this)

Disambig mess
Thanks for creating a huge mess out of disambiguation. It will take a lot of work to get disambiguation pages back to something useful again. Bensaccount 17:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * If I only knew what this was about.... &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 21:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Lists discussion
Hi, can you tell me you thoughts on the comment I made on the poll? Thanks Arniep 23:47, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Swung note again
Hyacinth has redirected everything back to his pet article. On the principle of working for the good of the encyclopedia, and lacking any show of interest at the pump, I've decided to try working with him on this, although I still don't think it's the right place for the main article on swing rhythms and metres. See Talk:Swing rhythm.

You might also like to have a look at the history of the common time entry. Here I really don't know what he's playing at! Andrewa 20:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, agree that there's a point at which we just need to cut our losses and work on things that give better value than edit wars. I just thought you might like a heads-up as you agreed that the main article should be somewhere else other than at swung note.

Hmmm, following your comment I had another look at the common time thing and I can't follow my earlier comment either! All I know is I followed the link from swung note and got to a completely inappropriate place. But as it stands, agree, the current redir is worse. I'll fix it! Andrewa 01:34, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Aha! Part of the problem is, where do I wikilink common time to? The redirect isn't adequate; There are so many redirects to time signatures that it's impractical to mention them all in the first paragraph or TOC. I've ended up with common time, which is a bit ugly, ends up here and doesn't really have the information. The alternative is common time, which ends up here and has the information but is even uglier. Andrewa 01:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Homeschooling project
Hello, My name Master Scott Hall (you can call me Scott). I am relatively new contributing to Wikipedia, though I have been a user of it for some time. I am currently soliciting for interest in a Wikiproject that I have proposed on the subject of homeschooling. Before finding Wikipedia, my wife and I were seriously considering, but not quite convinced, to home educate our children.

After discovering the depth, scope, and long-term goals of Wikipedia, as well as the individuals driving it, I am convinced that WP has the potential to revolutionize homeschooling. I am also convinced that home education is the right choice for my family. I have, however, been somewhat discouraged by the oversight of home education in most of the education related projects on WP. There are many potential reasons for this discrepency, but I have resolved to try to do something about it.

Although I personally have very limited experience in building complex Wikiprojects, -templates, -portals, etc., I am confident that the right team can be assembled to tackle these issues. I have notice that you seem to have taken the Homeschooling article "under your wing", at least in terms of NPOV. This kind of focus is crucial to the success of this project. I would like to invite you to join this effort to make Wikipedia the resource for the home education of our children. If you are interested, please visits the temporary project page I have set up. Thank you --Master Scott Hall 17:46, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Missing license
I just noticed that your Image:Gregorian chant.gif lacks a license. Can I ask you to add one? Algae 21:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Fixed link in your comment
Reading through your comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation, I found a link (WP:D) which used an anchor which no longer exists (the section was renamed). I took the liberty of fixing it. I decided to tell you this because I think, in general, editing other people's comments is a breach of etiquette, but I thought this useful enough to break the rule (WP:IAR). I hope you don't mind. Hairy Dude 07:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * For your convenience, here is a link to the relevant section. Hairy Dude 07:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 16:01, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Common time signatures.png
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Merging Chord (music) and Chord symbol
Hi,

I'm about to merge Chord (music) and Chord symbol and would appreciate yout thoughts (on the former's talk page). Edits to a draft version can be made here. Thanks Andeggs 07:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Holdrian comma
I cited Holder himself, who certainly discusses it. Ozan Yarman, a Turkish musicologist, tells me it is called that in Turkish music theory. Gene Ward Smith 18:39, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Authentic performance terminology
Hello Wahoofive,

There's a query for you at the Talk page of authentic performance.

Yours truly, Opus33 03:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Bass clef.gif listed for deletion
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Image:Tenor clef.gif listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Tenor clef.gif, has been listed at. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Past AfD nomination of Intercounty Baseball League
Just noticed this past AfD and I fully support the decision to keep this article. Anyone familiar with Canadian baseball knows that the IBL is a serious men's baseball league with a long history (since 1919) that has produced several members of Major League Baseball, AAA baseball, AA baseball and A baseball, while also featuring former MLB players and former Negro Leagues players of the past. To delete it would have been a travesty. Additionally, several former IBL players have been inducted into the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame & Museum in St. Marys, Ontario. Barry Wells 16:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Further to the above AfD nomination, I'd like to add that the IBL has had numerous former MLB players in the league, including Fergie Jenkins (who's the only player to have been inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame and the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame), Frank Colman, Denny McLain, Dave Rozema, Paul Spoljaric, Rob Butler, Oscar Judd, Tim Burgess, Mike Kilkenny and several outstanding former Negro Leagues players.
 * Additionally, many many players have been paid to play (albeit under the table), the league has many corporate sponsors, fans, competent, paid umpires, an official media guy, statistician, record books, commissioner and local TV contracts. It is serious baseball, with most parks (all but one, I believe) charging admission. The 1948 London Majors not only won the Intercounty title, but also the Ontario title, the Canadian title and the Can-Am title. Drinking beer while playing is not permitted, as one user frivously suggested. Many former IBL players have also gone on to baseball scholarships at U.S. universities, pro careers with MLB organizations or AAA ball, AA ball or A ball. The London Majors play at Labatt Park, the undisputed (to date) world's oldest baseball grounds in continuous use since 1877 (a heritage site under the Ontario Heritage Act) -- a park which won the prestigious Beam Clay Award as the best natural grass baseball park in North America in 1989-90. Barry Wells 19:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request
This is a form message being sent to all WikiProject Disambiguation participants. I recently left a proposed banner idea on the WikiProject Disambiguation talk page and I would appreciate any input you could provide. Before it can be approved or denied, I would prefer a lot of feedback from multiple participants in the project. So if you have the time please join in the discussion to help improve the WikiProject. Keep up the good work in link repair and thanks for your time. Nehrams2020 21:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

AFD discussion on a list of songs
You contributed to the discussion when this subject came up at Wikipedia talk:Centralized discussion/Lists of songs. Please contribute to the AFD discussion. Uncle G 15:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Melisma
I was wikilinking "dead-end" pages, where we try to further things along, and noticed that the Melisma article refers to "Melisma first appeared in written form...", but didn't see any mention of it in Musical notation. There really isn't a tag for "some of this info might be included in ..." material. I meant to clarify that on the talk page, but I guess I forgot. Sorry, Askari Mark (Talk) 22:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Interval (music) and Diminished seventh
Yes, Wahoofive. These articles are marred by poor treatment of basic terminology, along with other flaws. With the diminished 7th, I myself am less concerned with how the chord is derived than with the underlying classification of both the interval and the chord. In a nutshell, the problem is this. We know quite well what a diatonic scale is in the context of Greek-based theory of tetrachords and scales; and the term works well and uncontroversially enough when we speak of the music of the Renaissance being founded on the diatonic scale. But in accounting for the period when the harmonic minor (in particular) grew to be important in western music, the term diatonic grows less certain in meaning. According to a usage that evolved in 19C, especially in Britain, the term diatonic came to mean proper to the notes of a major scale, or of some form of a minor scale. This usage can be discerned quite clearly in Percy Scholes' original Oxford Companion to Music, and in the very influential pedagogical writings of the late-19C theorist Ebenezer Prout. In Britain and the other Commonwealth countries, especially in pedagogy as opposed to musicology, this usage is still dominant. And it makes good sense. After all, the system of the Common Practice Period is essentially a system of major scales and melodic and harmonic minor scales, so it's useful to have a term that refers to scales, notes, intervals, embellishments, and harmonic resources that fit most naturally into that basic system: diatonic. And then chromatic is available for reference to the expanded resources arising from adding notes that do not belong to those scales. In fact, it is when we revert to the supposedly more rigorous and supposedly earlier understanding of the term diatonic that confusions, ambiguities, and infelicities emerge. These are now ubiquitous, and can be found throughout the Wikipedia music articles, very many current textbooks, and very many current dictionaries – both general and musical. Even the New Grove is a little muddled. (Setting aside the harmonic minor, consider, as a side complication, how the ascending form of the melodic minor scale is to be classified: some say it is diatonic, some say it is not. And there are varying grounds for the opinions in question.) So you see? The area is riddled with complexities and entrenched allegiances to accustomed practices. The problem may be insoluble for Wikipedia, as a matter of practicality. We'll see. [I'll now post this at Talk:Interval (music) too, I think.] –Noetica 01:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your note in reply, Wahoofive. Let's continue the discussion, if there is more to say, at Talk:Interval (music). –Noetica 04:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Glad to see the Dim7 article being expanded. I ran out of steam.--Roivas 16:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I don't think the "hidden root" theory was originated by Piston (not that you claimed that or anything). I'm pretty sure that Rimsky-Korsakov was the first explain it this way. I'm relying on old memories, here...but I'll be sure to keep an eye out for a good citation so I can edit that into the article.--Roivas 18:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know the background behind this weird debate.

Two things sparked it:

I removed this piece of nonsense from the article in Interval (Music):

"Diatonic intervals are all those whose notes can both be found in at least one major or harmonic minor scale"

and this from the Diminished Seventh article:

"A diminished seventh interval is one of three musical intervals that span seven diatonic scale degrees."--Roivas 17:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

In answer to your note at my page, Wahoofive: yes. See my extended comments at Talk:Diatonic scale. –Noetica 06:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Homeschooling and making friends
Yes, I know you _can_ make friends outside school, but the problem I see is not of numbers, but of quality. Of the hundreds of acquaitances you do at school, you meet the persons who can be very good friends of yours, and you live side by side with them more than half of your day, nearly every day. Of those friends you keep in touch with few when you grow up and life diverges your paths, but that doesn't mean you didn't need them back then. I will buy mi children toys, even knowing that in a couple of years they won't play with them anymore: They need them now.

In any case I would let my children to decide if they actually can do with more or less friends. And the only way they can decide is not denying them the option.

I can understand that in places where the practice is common, homeschooling parents would make their children meet. It's a way to eliminate the problem of which I'm talking.

And of course, if the education system of the area is so bad, I can understand the practice. Although sending your children to school doesn't impede you of teaching them whatever you feel they should have been thaugth and haven't.

In any case, I do believe, without knowing a word of psychology or sociology, that the fact that younger and younger children try tabacco, for example, is fault of schooling (of the social tension school imposes on children). --euyyn 00:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

New article Diatonic and chromatic
Great work, Wahoofive! I have now done quite a lot within the structure you set up. Let's confine open discussion to Talk:Diatonic and chromatic from now on. I'll put a note to that effect at the other articles' talk pages. This is going to require considerable patience and forbearance, we can be sure! There are a number of other common terms in music that cause problems here at Wikipedia, but by my assessment at least we are attacking the worst of them. –&thinsp; Noetica ♬&thinsp;Talk 10:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Classical work infobox
Template:Classical work infobox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Turangalila  (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
That Tallis example you added to English cadence (music) helps immensely. Please accept my sincere thanks for your work. Adso de Fimnu 20:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Of course the article still sucks, but now it has a neat graphic! &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 00:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Ledger lines
I, too, spell "ledger lines" with a D. However, "leger lines" is the standard British spelling. Please don't go around changing it. See Manual of Style. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. I checked my dictionary and the online dictionary, neither of them had leger lines, so I assumed it was just wrong.  My apologies. — M ETS 501 (talk) 17:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Music theory/temp
You created Music theory/temp a while back. I'm just wondering, are you going to do anything with it? And if it's just you that's going to work on it, wouldn't it be more appropriate in user space, like User:Wahoofive/Music theory instead? - Rainwarrior 03:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * My intent was that others might work on it, based on comments on the music theory talk page. If no one is interested, let's kill it. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 17:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, delete it if it's not going to be used, but if multiple users were going to be working on it I'd still suggest moving it to user space anyway. It just doesn't belong in article space. (I do agree that Music theory needs work, and working in some temporary space might be a good idea, though.) - Rainwarrior 04:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Welsh choirs
You recently reverted an edit of mine removing an irrelevant paragraph from Choir. I had posted my intent to do this on the talk page and received no response. Do you have a reason for reinstating this paragraph? If so, please put it on Talk:Choir. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 15:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * thanks for taking the time to leave a note...it's rarely done, and i admit i should do it more often. that said...i didn't previously see your entry on the discussion page, and your deletion accompanied no comment. either way, i disagree with you assessment, as i found the paragraph a somewhat interesting bit of history. only one choir was given as example, and i don't regard that as self-promoting at all. --emerson7 | Talk 19:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Candy Punk article
Hey you nominated the Candy Punk article for deletion before, and I was wondering if you can do that again, I'm not sure about the process for renominating. I just haven't been able to find enough music/bands unique enough to warrant it's own stub, and I think it may have been more of a slang terminology for certain pop punk/bubblegum punk music.→ LzyGenius 20:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Time signature/Mixed meters
Why doesnt belong there?? Khullah 02:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The article Time signature is about a music notation device, not an invitation to list your favorite bands. Regardless of whether the example bands use mixed meters, they don't necessarily use time signatures to do it. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 05:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Augmented sixth chord
Nice images, Wahoofive. That's the sort of thing we need!

–&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 23:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Inversion: "When do we hit the 3 revert rule"
Already. :) -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 05:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Mediation of 6/4 issue
I've noticed Tony's request for mediation at Requests for mediation/Analytical notation for 6/4 chords, but I don't think he bothered notifying the people he listed on it. If you think mediation is a good idea here (I do), you might want to sign it. - Rainwarrior 03:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation
This message delivered: 08:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC).

Circus metal (again)
Hello. I am messaging you about the recreation (I believe for the fifth time) of the article Circus metal. I have seen you have participated in a previous AfD procedure for the article, and I would think you would be interested to give your opinion in the most recent one. Thanks in advance.

ZOUAVMAN LE ZOUAVE 10:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Parts_of_a_note.gif listed for deletion
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Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Inversion (music)
Hi there, when you've got a second, can you pop over to the above page to make an opening statement on the mediation? Obviously, there's no time limit so do it whenever you're ready. Cheers,  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  18:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

RfC
I am starting the page Requests for comment/Tony1 and would like to go through the RfC process. Would you be willing to endorse or contribute to this? - Rainwarrior 11:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Just a note on why I removed the link to the mediation: Apparently mediation is a "behind closed doors" kind of thing. I didn't know about that policy until I had already gone through and listed quotes from the mediation, etc. on the RfC and was told by two different mediators not to do so. I'm not sure I agree with that policy, but I'd prefer not to have the mediation discussion deleted as a result, since despite the problems had there is actually some useful information in there. - Rainwarrior 17:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, you already got it. - Rainwarrior 17:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted the Request for Comment you endorsed concerning because more than 48 hours had passed without proper certification. To remain listed, a RFC must demonstrate public evidence of attempts to resolve a dispute, and should also demonstrate that the dispute is an on-going concern. If there are existing matters between yourself and Tony1 I hope that you can resolve them directly. Best, Mackensen (talk) 10:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Good to see some progress
This is a message to Wahoofive, Rainwarrior, Mscuthbert, and Tony. I am pleased to see that there has been some progress on this six-four matter. I long ago withdrew from the discussion when it became clear that nothing useful was coming of it. When the page Inversion (music) is unlocked and things are back to normal, I look forward to contributing something to the discussion once more. I suppose others may want to come in then also. I'll not join the discussion till the disputes are all behind, and things are functioning normally. Meanwhile, I recommend this: have a look at Chopin's exquisitely beautiful Prelude in C# minor, Op. 45. (You can find it online [blacklisted link removed], and no doubt other places as well.) The point to consider is this: what analysis are we to give the extended "six-four" in the twelfth- and eleventh-last (and tenth-last?) bars? If the underlying harmony in these bars is V, parse these notes: the B and the A, the two Fxs, the B#, and the D#. And then parse these notes on the assumption that the underlying harmony in those bars is I. Thank you!

–&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 10:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * See continuing conversation chez moi, Wahoo.
 * –&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 11:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And some more now, if you're still interested.
 * –&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 22:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

RfC: Original research and reliable sources
Hello. You recently contributed to a discussion about original research and sourcing at the List of musical works in unusual time signatures. I am requesting comments from the wider community in hopes of settling a dispute there. Please visit this section of the talk page if you wish to further contribute to the discussion. Thank you. Nick Graves 02:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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 * I'm afraid I have nothing to add to that discussion. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 18:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you have no opinion, then? It matters not if you have no further arguments to add; we should be able to tell what the support for the existing ones is. Right? Waltham, The Duke of 19:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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 * Significant coverage - Suspensions are delineated in nearly every dictionary, encyclopedia, and theory book.  Grove's  dictionary of Music and Musicians, for example, dedicates several pages to the important concept.  Suspensions are also discussed in nearly all first year music theory classes, making it rudimentary information.  While I can understand why the 'suspension (music)' page was redirected, I do not think it was wholly beneficial.
 * Reliable Information -  There is a variety of reliable information about suspensions. To name a few: Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians, the Harvard Dictionary of Music, Edward Aldwell's Harmony and Voice Leading, and Tonal Harmony, by Kostka and Payne.

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 * I know this is a bot message, but for the record I did know I was linking to a dab page. There isn't a more appropriate page in this case. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 16:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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I've marked two other images you uploaded - File:Multimeasure rest2.gif and File:Double accidentals.gif - for deletion as well. They've all been made obsolete by higher-quality images and are no longer being used. The three are grouped together following the generated templage message's link to the discussion if you wish to contest this decision. However, your contributions and you being the uploader of your own images make it obvious that you know much more on this topic than I do, a layman. If possible, it would be appreciated if you could go through your old images and mark for deletion - or at least list here so that I or someone else can do so - the images that you believe are also clearly made obsolete by newer, higher-quality ones. Thanks. Fuebar (talk) 22:12, 19 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem, obviously it's just a replacement of a .gif image with an equivalent .svg image in each case. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 01:51, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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My agreement with your comments on the Bach Talk page. I think I agree with you on much of what you say. My attempt was to open the new RfC so that User:Francis could bring his version of the edit into the section clearly dated for his edit (1750-1788) but he has declined. I can try to leave things open for more editors to get involved as you suggest. Could you look-in at periodic times to make sure that the RfC announcement is not being disruptively edited, and new comments from any editors should go below the Support-Oppose section. Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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old stuff but wanted to clarify something for you -
Haydn was an Austrian citizen, but his nationality(ethnicity) was German. Austrians at the time of Haydn's life were split between the Hungarian part of Austria-Hungary, and that part which we today have as the state of Austria. Note I did not say the nation-state of Austria; while it is majority German, Italians and Swiss make up almost 25% or so of the population. So, Austria is not a nation-state like, for example, the Czech Republic or Portugal is. Nationality/ethnicity is usually based on a people's (nation's) language - in that, Haydn was thoroughly German, and would have referred to his "race" as German, just as Mozart did. Just an FYI. On Wiki, too many people refer to 'nationality' instead of the political citizenship, which gets confusing - failure of our educational systems in the West, I suppose. 98.67.15.53 (talk) 03:01, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

I would appreciate if you do not remove my edits
There are many major scales that people can learn, BUT I added a link (learning only the 12 commonly use major scale)so people can benefit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JEric94 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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New Note on Old Subject
I just saw your comment from 16 years ago about the rehearsal number page being trivial. You're a conductor, how can you say that? Perhaps you're in the wrong profession then. JohnDVandevert (talk) 05:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Still a trivial topic. Having the letters (or numbers) can be useful, but an encyclopedia article is unnecessary. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 16:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, and thanks for the gratuitous insult. If someone disagrees with you about something, it definitely means they don't belong in their chosen profession. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 16:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)