User talk:Walton Stowell

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July 2009
Hi there - I thought I should let you know, I reverted an edit you made to Scod. This was because Scod is currently a redirect page to Tripod (band), and the edits you made broke that redirect so it didn't function anymore.

We do have disambiguation pages for if the same word/name/acronym can mean multiple things, and it might be suitable to convert Scod to that. I did notice that the article you were trying to link to was a 'redlink', meaning it doesn't exist yet. You might want to make that article first though, before changing other ones that link to it.

If you've got any questions, please do get in touch by leaving a note on my talk page. --Saalstin (talk) 00:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Sustainable Cooperative for Organic Development
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Speedy deletion nomination of Sustainable Cooperative for Organic Development
A tag has been placed on Sustainable Cooperative for Organic Development requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Saalstin (talk) 00:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. t'shaél chat 00:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to the page Sustainable Cooperative for Organic Development. Such edits constitute vandalism and are reverted. Please do not continue to make unconstructive edits to pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 00:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from articles, as you did with Sustainable Cooperative for Organic Development. It is considered vandalism. You may place on the page and make your case on the article's talk page if you oppose an article's speedy deletion. Thanks. --Saalstin (talk) 01:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Walton Stowell
I have nominated Walton Stowell, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Walton Stowell. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ApprenticeFan talk  contribs 11:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

re: Walton Stowell
Hi there - thanks for your message. (I've moved it to my talk page, which is the area set aside for conversations like this.) I don't think it's immediately obvious why, or that, your father met the guidelines that are used for inclusion, which is why there's a discussion going on about deleting the article. The criteria used on our biography guidelines are that "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject."

Part of the problem is that it's very difficult to find the assertions on why an article is deserved. His obituary in the Herald-Mail, for example, says that "He earned a reputation locally and statewide, even nationally, for his architectural designs and knowledge of historic preservation." - a national reputation, claimed by an independent third party like a newspaper is, potentially, notable, but there's no mention of it in the article. If you include things like that, backed up with references, the article is much more likely to survive (although no promises, WP is driven by consensus guided by policies and different people read them in different ways). Notable, special, famous or important events that took place in Harpers Ferry while he was Mayor would help as well. I think it's important to note that the references don't have to be online - a physical newspaper or a book is just as good. So long as those independent secondary sources exist, and are writing about the subject of an article, that helps to prove their notability. A lot of WP articles do use exclusively online references, mainly because they're easiest everyone to verify, but there's nothing wrong with needing to go the library to do it.

In addition, the article currently seems quite confused - it seems to be part about your father, part about your business, and part about yourself. I'd recommend that you focus it much more tightly on your father (again, detail on what was remarkable and why and back it up with sources) to improve its chances of survival.

Finally, deletion isn't forever. You said on the deletion discussion that "interviews of everyone and every project he worked on have not been conducted yet" - if the sources that are needed to prove notability and keep the article don't exist yet, maybe they will in a few years time, and with better sourcing you'll be able to prove your case to people's satisfaction.

I hope this helps. If you've got any other questions or comments, please do get back to me. All the best --Saalstin (talk) 02:07, 11 July 2009 (UTC)