User talk:WanderingJosh



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Your submission at Articles for creation: BiondVax (March 17)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by 333-blue was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:BiondVax and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:BiondVax Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:333-blue&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:BiondVax reviewer's talk page].
 * You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

333-blue 13:56, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: BiondVax (March 31)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DGG was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:BiondVax and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:BiondVax Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DGG&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:BiondVax reviewer's talk page].
 * You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

 DGG ( talk ) 05:22, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Conflicts of interest in Wikipedia
Hi WangeringJosh. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia along with my regular editing. Thanks very much for disclosing your relationship with Biondvax.

You are, what we call in Wikipedia, a "paid editor", which is a special class of conflict of interest here. In case you are not aware of it, I'm giving you notice of our COI guideline and the PAID editing policy.

Hello, WanderingJosh. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your circle, your organization, its competitors, projects or products;
 * instead propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
 * when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you.

Comments and requests
Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step, and have you have nailed that. So, thanks for that!

I've added relevant tags to the talk pages of the articles you've worked on, so that editors working on those articles can easily see the disclosure. So the disclosure piece of this will be done.

As I noted above, there are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is what I call "peer review". This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and viola there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world.

What we ask editors to do who have a COI and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft, disclose your COI on the Talk page using the appropriate template, and then submit the draft article through the WP:AFC process so it can be reviewed before it publishes (which is exactly what you have done, so thanks!); and  b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. You can make the edit request easily - and provide notice to the community of your request -  by using the "edit request" function as described in the conflict of interest guideline. I made that easy for you by adding a section to the beige box at the top of the Talk page at the vaccines article - there is a link at "click here" in that section --  if you click that, the Wikipedia software will automatically format a section in which you can make your request.

By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (which I will say more about, if you want).

I hope that makes sense to you.

I want to add here that per the WP:COI guideline, if you want to directly update simple, uncontroversial facts (for example, correcting the facts about where a company has offices) you can do that directly in the article, without making an edit request on the Talk page. Just be sure to always cite a reliable source for the information you change, and make sure it is simple, factual, uncontroversial content. (that is a very narrow range of stuff)

Will you please agree to follow the peer review processes going forward, when you want to work on any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. And if you want me to quickly go over the content policies, I can do that. Just let me know. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 14:24, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * copied from message left at my talk page here, to keep thread together Jytdog (talk) 09:13, 13 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey Jytdog - thanks for the detailed info you left yesterday on my page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WanderingJosh).
 * Since I am biased with respect to the BiondVax draft article - what can be done to review and approve it? Do I basically have to wait and hope for someone else to come along and review? Is there some way I can ask someone in Wikipedia-land to review the article and (hopefully) approve it?


 * Despite my bias, I can't understand why this article isn't worthy of Wikipedia, when many similar small, publicly traded, pharma companies do have articles (e.g. Galena_Biopharma, Sarepta_Therapeutics, Repros_Therapeutics, Onepharm (private), CancerVax (not even a functioning company!).


 * Thanks! I think it's great people like you take time to review, and carefully explain, to new editors like myself. WanderingJosh (talk) 08:55, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note! I copied it here to keep the thread together - just easier that way.   There is a lot of work that you could still do to improve the article.  Above, I offered to kind of lay out how Wikipedia works, and I have some tips about how to write an article that are generally, and I think could really help you.  Can I lay that stuff out for you? (you can reply here - I will see it!)  Jytdog (talk) 09:13, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Draft:BiondVax concern
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Your draft article, Draft:BiondVax


Hello, WanderingJosh. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "BiondVax".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 07:59, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:BiondVax
Draft:BiondVax, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:BiondVax and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Draft:BiondVax during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 16:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:BiondVax has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:BiondVax. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 15:22, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Just a note that AfC is an optional process. The title in mainspace is a redirect that could be pasted over. Legacypac (talk) 06:47, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks User:Legacypac. My understanding was that the article should be reviewed, and that I certainly shouldn't be the one to mainspace it due to CoI. Are you suggesting that since it was determined (by others) that the article topic should be approved (though perhaps with edits by non-CoI's), we should not wait for AfC, and mainspace it immediately? (Reminder that I'm not experienced here and want to ensure whatever I do is acceptable) --WanderingJosh (talk) 09:06, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that the page will be deleted per WP:LISTED A lot has changed in the several years this has been going through AfC and other editors including me have improved the page.  Legacypac (talk) 09:14, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Legacypac Thanks for your reply. So should I just remove the redirect from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BiondVax&redirect=no? If there's more to it, would you mind please pointing me in the right direction? --WanderingJosh (talk) 09:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you want it in mainspace where it may be subjected to a deletion discussion or redirection again or maybe just left alone? If so, you can copy all the text (minus the afc comments) over the redirect text and save. If you decide to do that, I'll deal with the draft. Legacypac (talk) 09:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Legacypac I've copied the draft text over the redirect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BiondVax. Is it advisable to include a link to the discussion for deletion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:BiondVax in the mainspace article's talk page? Is there anything to be considered? Thank you very much for your time and sharing your expertise. WanderingJosh (talk) 09:59, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. It's an interesting article.  I hope that the UFV becomes a reality soon as it will save many lives. Legacypac (talk) 10:13, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. WanderingJosh (talk) 10:17, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft talk:BiondVax


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