User talk:Wapanakamikok2011

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Wicomico People
Please make edits regarding the Northumberland County, VA branch of the Wicocomico on Wicocomico people (Tidewater Virginia), which I've created for that purpose after you deleted the content of this page, which was not created for that specific topic. Thank you. Pilch62 (talk) 04:27, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Pilch62 (talk) 04:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Wicocomico people. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.

Wicocomico people
Unfortunately, you are incorrect in saying that the Wicocomico are two separate peoples. William Taptico was born on the Eastern Shore, and moved to the Northern Neck of Virginia. In addition, the Wicocomico people page was just created, by me, today, so you are also incorrect in claiming it solely for the Northern Neck Wicocomicos. Finally, the Wicomico page, whose content you previously erased, was also about ALL the Wicocomico peoples. If you insist on using the general page for the specifics of the Northumberland branch, I will have to get an administrator involved. And please stop reverting content on the general page when the same content is on the Tidewater Virginia portion. Pilch62 (talk) 04:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Excuse me: it is not YOUR Wicomico article, any more than it is mine. And until you provide more evidence that there is no link between the two tribes, I insist on there being a general page about the tribe, and a specific page about the Northern Neck Wicocomicos.  I hope you see the logic of that.  In addition, it was certainly discourteous of you to delete the content of the original Wicocomico page--that is not appropriate editorial action, and if you attempt it again, I will, as I have said, have to ask an administrator to step in.  Finally, please response to me here--there's no sense in bouncing back and forth between two pages for this conversation.  Thanks.  Pilch62 (talk) 05:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I asked you to stop reverting the Wicocomico people page to the SAME content as the Wicocomico people (Tidewater Virginia) page. I am now going to have to report you for vandalism.  Pilch62 (talk) 05:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No, Sorry to tell you, there was already a page on the Wicocomico but you deleted it with your crap. Me and some fellow descendants and researchers have been adding to it over a period of time, and here you come deleting it. Go get your wikipedia police, I'm not familiar with wikipedia, for all I've came on here for, a few months back, was to work on a Wicocomico article and others have been adding to it, but as I said, you just pop up and delete it. LOL Vandalism? Go get a life


 * I didn't delete it. It's at Wicocomico people (Tidewater Virginia).  And I might point out that you deleted everything that was on the original Wicocomico page.  Your attitude could also use an adjustment--if you're not familiar with wikipedia, why are you coming in here like a bull in a china shop?  Pilch62 (talk) 05:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)   PS: Another wikipedia rule you're unfamiliar with is signing your work.  Use four ~ in a row.

When I saw the referral page for Wicocomico, with the list of Wicocomico people, USS Wicocomico, Wicomico river, etc I clicked wicocomico people and it took me to the Pocomoke thing, so theres 2 wicocomico people pages?


 * Yes. I didn't delete your work--User:Morrillonline did.  See the "History" section to the Wicocomico page (which is now a redirect page). In order to  make things clearer (I'd hoped), I took everything from the Wicocomico page and made a new page Wicocomico people (Tidewater Virginia)--but that text had already been edited by Morrillonline.  And then the Wicocomico people page went back to what it was originally.  I hope that makes sense.  I would never simply delete someone's editing without at least moving it somewhere else.  Pilch62 (talk) 05:38, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I've had problems in the past with people changing the Wicocomico article. I google Wicocomico and click on the wikipedia article, I havent checked it in a while and happened to click on it tonight and saw everything changed. I'm a Wicocomico descendant and have been studying them and southeastern tribes for quite some time. In regards to your earlier message, William Taptico was probably born in Chicacoan District VA, most likely the same person as "William ye sonne of Machywap". When the northumberland commission merged the Chicacoans and Wicocomicoes to a single group and chose the King of the Chicacoan as the Weroance of the combined groups, the Wicocomicos went against the decision and put Machywap of Chicacoans life in danger. By 1666 his son William was sent to live in safekeeping. William Taptico's role in MD was uncommon, he was an Indian, but he lived among the English and was a planter with accounts in the US and England. He was a respected member of society. Machywap was well respected amongst the English as would be his son. William the son of Machywap being raised amongst the English and William Tapticos role he played in life made him the perfect mediator in Indian/White relations and used the legal system to fight for his people, leads the probability that they were the same person. As for the 2 groups being related, Helen Rountree and Stephen Potter made good points as to why they weren't. As I said there were several unrelated groups around the chesepeake with the same name. Archaeology backs it up, and plus the great men of the VA Wicocomicos and the Great men of the Pocomoke/Wicocomico of MD weren't the same people, nor were they known for being in each others area.

Wicocomico
Just both of you put the same text into one article. Just because the current state of Wicocomico has it as the Northumberland group does not mean the same article can cover the Tidewater group or wherever else you are saying this group of indigenous peoples are from. Before you or Pilch62 continue fighting, you should discuss things civilly at Talk:Wicocomico. I can tell you for one that your edits to the page are no better than his were.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 08:43, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * We've already discussed it, mind your business — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wapanakamikok2011 (talk • contribs)
 * Well, you haven't discussed it enough.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 23:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)