User talk:Wardketring

October 2022
Hello, I'm Egsan Bacon. I noticed that you recently removed content from Perry, Florida without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Egsan Bacon (talk) 00:52, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm not an experienced editor, so please accpt my apologies. This content is based on folklore and opinions. The truth is, no one knows the the truth about what happened. Nothing was written about it in 1922 and it was all just stories that were embelished as they were passed down. I read the citiations references and it seems to me that the authors are trying to promote racism and reflect small southern towns as racist haters, which as lifelong member of Perry, I dispute. The lady who was murdered is my andmother's sister, so I am very farmiiar with this event. As a family member, I'm not even sure what happened. All I know is my aunt was murdered and there was a retaliation from her family. What that retalition was has never actually been proven. Like most stories, things get embelished by the story tellers.   Wardketring (talk) 11:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Perry, Florida, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you would like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.  Andethyst  (talk)  00:56, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Perry, Florida, you may be blocked from editing. Liliana UwU (talk / contribs) 01:00, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Who is this? The so called Perry Race Riots were supposedly started by the brutal murder of a woman who also happens to be my great aunt. This entire citiation is based on total folklore and the story had been sensationalized as time has passed. It has been 100 years since this happened. Nothing was written in 1922 about the so called riots and anyone that was there in the 1922 is now gone. I read the citations. They are written by people trying their best to promote and further racism. So how is it that I'm vandalizing Wikipedia? Does lack of facts and total speculation count for anything? I'm not saying that nothing happened, but I want you to tell me the facts of what happened in this event since I'm the vandal. Wardketring (talk) 11:03, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia exists to summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic. The passage you are attempting to remove is cited to what seems to be a reliable source.  If that source is not being summarized accurately, please say how on the article talk page.  If the source is accurately summarized, but in error, you will need to either discuss that with the source itself, or offer newer sources that can be verified that support your claims.  We can't just take your word for it. 331dot (talk) 11:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * So I can just write my opinion about subject, cite someone who agrees with my thoughts, throw it on Wiki and it becomes truth? Wiki took someones word to publish this folk tale. Wardketring (talk) 11:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, how does someone become a "reliable" source and who decides who's a reliable source? Wardketring (talk) 11:22, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not claim to be the truth, as truth is in the eye of the beholder. Wikipedia only claims that the information presented can be verified, see WP:TRUTH for more information on this point.  If you are saying that the sources provided to support the information made up their claims out of whole cloth, or that the sources were faked in some way merely to post on Wikipedia, please discuss that at the reliable sources noticeboard. You cannot edit war to preserve your edit. You must discuss it either where I've stated or on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 11:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Perry, Florida, you may be blocked from editing. 331dot (talk) 10:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * How does someone go about blocking someone from editing? Wardketring (talk) 11:23, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You have no grounds to request anyone be blocked from editing, but you are getting close to being blocked yourself. You may proceed as I have stated, or you can move on. 331dot (talk) 11:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * What I'm asking is, how do you go about blocking me? I thought Wiki was an open forum. Are you an an admin? Wardketring (talk) 11:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I am an admin, but as I've been discussing this with you it would no longer be proper for me to block you, so I would report it instead. I don't want to do that, and all I do want is for you to discuss your concerns in the proper forum and refrain from edit warring. 331dot (talk) 11:47, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand, That's not a problem. Other than little things here and there, I've never really done an edit. I removed the folk tale and it kept popping back up, so I'd try again. Truth is I don't know how the process works and apparently I was told wrong, so please don;t hold that against me. Thanks for the education.. Wardketring (talk) 12:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Please understand, we can't just take your word that it is a folk tale. Maybe it is, I don't know. But an author wrote about it, summarizing someone's recollections, and published it. That is indeed sufficient for article content.  If they just made it up out of whole cloth, or there are other reasons to dispute the provenance of the source, you need to build that case in the proper forum(WP:RSN). The other thing you can do is offer your own reliable sources disputing the conclusions of the eariler one.  331dot (talk) 12:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * So if I get published, say in a newspaper, then I become legit? Wardketring (talk) 00:04, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You would need an independent reliable source with a reputation of fact checking and editorial control to have something published to support your proposed edits. If you say, self-publish a book, or write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper, those things don't count. If you approach a publisher, that would trigger conflict of interest issues and make it harder for you do to what you want. Ideally, the source should have chosen on their own to write about the topic.
 * And this wouldn't necessarily mean the current information could just be excised and replaced- the two points of view would have to coexist somehow, unless you (as I say above) challenge the provenance of the current sourced information. The long and short of it is, you can't edit war, and you need a published independent reliable source to support your edits. 331dot (talk) 00:26, 15 October 2022 (UTC)