User talk:Washuotaku/Archive 2014

The Center Line: Winter 2013

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Lead sections
Hello. Please be aware that these two reverts were incorrect per WP:LEAD. That section of the Manual of Style states that the lead section "should be able to stand alone as a concise overview" and "summarize the most important points" of the article's topic. The other editor's addition of brief history notes to the lead was correct. T C  N7 JM  05:25, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Fine. --WashuOtaku (talk) 05:39, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

List of bannered U.S. Routes
Just a quick suggestion/question: When you make new entries/redirects for bannered routes, such as those on the Bannered routes of U.S. Route 70, could you also update the List of bannered U.S. Routes page? My laptop is nearing the end of its life, and I can't always do it (super slow sometimes). Thanks. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 03:08, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll try to swing by there when done with the US 70 Alt routes. You may have noticed or not that I have created a List of U.S. Highways in North Carolina, which is cause of my recent updates. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:23, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

U.S. Route 15-501 in North Carolina
Please can you explain this edit - e.g. since when has "please see" been encyclopedic wording, why should the article not be in the cat I put it in? Do you think it's really a list? DexDor (talk) 14:55, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * There has been many discussions about this concurrency and it was decided to make it simply a list that redirects users to the NC pages of US 15 or US 501; thus the previous cats were correct. It is not its own road in North Carolina, simply a long concurrency; it is also not unique as other long concurrencys exist in the state and are not articled like this one was.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 15:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Please can you explain which (if any) of the following you disagree with:
 * 1. The article is within the topic of roads in North Carolina.
 * 2. The article should be placed in Category:Roads in North Carolina.
 * 3. The 2nd and 3rd uses of bold in the article are inappropriate (MOS:BOLD).
 * 4. The first references to Routes 15 and 501 could be linked.
 * 6. "please see" is not wording that is normally used in articles and should be avoided.
 * 7. If Routes 15 and 501 are linked in the text (see 4) there's no need to list them as bullet points.
 * 8. The article isn't really a list (especially if you accept 7).
 * 9. If it is a list it should be moved to (a) much lower list category/ies - e.g. Category:United States transportation-related lists.
 * DexDor (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2014 (UTC)


 * As mention, the reason it is created as it is because it was at one point up for deletion and they decided to compromise to this format (the wording could be improved though), visit here: Articles for deletion/U.S. Route 15-501 in North Carolina. I also disagree with point 2, as US 15 and US 501 are already in Category:Roads in North Carolina, and adding a concurrency is redundant and also unusual since no other concurrencys are listed... why would this be the only unique case accepted? --WashuOtaku (talk) 23:06, 10 May 2014 (UTC)


 * That deletion discussion does not say anything about the format of the page beyond saying it should be a dab - which (as explained on the talk page) is incorrect as there's no ambiguity (perhaps we should AFD it again to get it changed to redir, and point out why it's not a dab - I agree with your cmt of 20Aug2012). A category is a list of pages within a given topic so it may not exactly match a list of things of a given type so there's no problem with this being in a NC cat.  Re "no other concurrencys are listed" - do we have articles about any other concurrency? DexDor (talk) 04:52, 11 May 2014 (UTC)


 * There is this article of U.S. Route 1/9, it is treated like a separate section of U.S. Route through the state of New Jersey; however this appears more like an exception than the norm, I can't find similar concurrency articles beyond this one and there are no others in the state of North Carolina. I still disagree with the NC Cat, it already rolls under cat for US 15/US 501, which in turn roll under NC Cat... in a hierarchy structure, it is already listed.  I welcome another attempt, but I doubt they will change it, some people are enamored by it.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 14:21, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Eastern terminus of U.S. Route 76
If you look at Google Street View's image of the intersection with Jack Parker Boulevard (US 76) and Water Street in the southwestern part of Wrightsville Beach, you will see an end sign for the highway. This is also covered by USEnds.com's US 76 page. So, it doesn't end at Lumina Street. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Crap, just realized that is US 74's endpoint, not US 76, my bad. I'll fix it when I get a chance.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 15:17, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL. That's okay. I know US 74 and US 76 got switched, right? Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 16:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I was rushing and I made the mistake; both go different directions when they reach Wrightsville Beach; before US 76, there was a US 74A Spur... my bad. --WashuOtaku (talk) 17:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

The Center Line: Spring 2014

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Your recent comment at Talk:Charlotte, North Carolina
Upon further reflection of the issue raised there, I think I am leaning toward opposing the existing redirect at Charlotte also. This is due to the common name issue that you mentioned. I have no idea how to go about requesting that change, as it would require the deletion of the existing page to move the page Charlotte (disambiguation) to Charlotte. John from Idegon (talk) 01:51, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The lazy way is to redirect to the disambiguation, but someone will give you hell for doing that when discovered. I am not sure what process you should do beyond what you mentioned, sorry.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:05, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I will contact an administrator for the help. My real question above (sorry for the lack of clarity) was "Would you support such a move?" John from Idegon (talk) 02:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:39, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * TY John from Idegon (talk) 03:43, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Tennessee Related Highways
Please Refrain from make disruptive edits to Tennessee State Routes, Or you will be blocked from editing.

And on Tennessee State Route 172 and U.S Route 321 there is a business route there signs on the Highway that say:

BUSINESS 321

If don't believe me go Google Street view to the intersection of US-11E and US-321 in Greeneville, Tennessee and to the intersection of State Route 70 and US-321 also in Greeneville. --ACase0000 (talk) 04:44, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I would counter-argue that my edits were enhancements and not disruptive in anyway, I am not making the edits in a vacuum; you don't own the Tennessee State Routes. Business 321 doesn't exist, I pulled official TDOT maps on this to confirm this (City and Vicinity Map of Greeneville & Tusculum); however, I encourage you to prove me wrong by pulling actual documentation of its existence (TDOT, AASHTO or other source).  You should know just because a sign exists of it doesn't make it correct.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 10:43, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If you are upset with my recent removal of dashes, well that came after the realization that TDOT doesn't use them in official communications via a discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads. Again, my actions are not in a vacuum; I encourage you to get in the conversation if you can prove why the dashes exist for Tennessee as I was unable to do so.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 10:57, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't live in Tennessee, So i Don't think you should be editing articles about Tennessee Highways, I live in Tennessee and try my best to keep them up-to-date. And I am Sorry If I upset you, I did not see that they did not use them anymore But i think the "dash" looks better. for instances: SR-394 than SR 394. And what does in A Vacuum mean?? And on US-321 Business I will leave that alone. --ACase0000 (talk) 04:05, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * when he says that he's not "editing in a vacuum", that means he's not operating in a limited space without outside input. As for editing in states outside of the ones where we live: there is just USRD. There are not separate state projects. Our members are supposed to be free to contribute to all of the project's articles. In fact, they're owned by the community. You can't kick people out of Tennessee highways like that, and if you try, you might find that an administrator kicks you out of Wikipedia.  Imzadi 1979  →   04:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yea, I got a little upset, but only because you got territorial. I may not have lived in Tennessee, but I have visited it many times, especially the Tri-Cities area; so I may not have the day-to-day exposure, but I do have a little street creed.  And trust me, when I do work on any TN article, I try my best to pulling all information available (i.e. google maps/street view, US topography maps, TDOT maps and articles).  So if I a mistake, I'm happy you correct me, but please don't push me out for trying.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 14:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation and I wasn't trying to "Kick" Washoutaku Out or trying to sound mean and I know everyone is free to contribute and I surely don't want to blocked, I almost got blocked before over something that was misunderstood as wrong. And Imzadi I appreciate all the help and work you do on the articles i created.
 * I am sorry I Upset You. I should not have said that. And since you have visited the Tri-Cities area maybe you can help me with some the road articles in that area there are several that need help. --ACase0000 (talk) 03:38, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

North Carolina Highway System
I saw you added your sandboxed list to the article today. I'd like to bounce an idea off of you. Do you think it would be better suited for a standalone list, say List of North Carolina primary highways? If it were me, I would add the alternate, business, and special route lists to your sandbox and then move it to the standalone list. Then I'd leave the stuff about signage and how route numbering works in the system article. –Fredddie™ 01:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yea, I thought it might be better to break-out the state routes too, but call it North Carolina Highways instead (I used primary in header to different it from alternate, business, other... it may not have needed it). Perhaps a retooling is in order.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:34, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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old NC official maps
Have you seen these? They don't have every year, so you can't reference exact years, but it's better than the every 10 years on the NCDOT site. They also have county maps on that site, and another site has county maps for SC. --NE2 09:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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Ways to improve North Carolina Highway 711
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The Center Line: Summer 2014

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 * Okay, thanks. --WashuOtaku (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

KML?
This being one of the first KML files I've ever made, you're probably right about it being incorrect, but how is it incorrect? -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 02:10, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the fact you made an effort to make a KML file for NC 47, but since I don't know how to edit it, thought be easier to revert for now. The mapping had it on its old endpoint at I-85, but that changed last year by being extended a half mile west to I-85 Bus/US 29/US 52/US 70.  Should be a quick revision, hopefully.  Thank you.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:19, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I've fixed it, I'll add it back to the article, and you can make sure it's correct. -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 02:26, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It's correct, thank you for updating. :) --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * North Carolina Highway 134 is also incorrect, it doesn't end at I-73/I-74/US 220, but at Dawson Miller Road, just feet from the interchange. It's small, but I figure we are going for accuracy. :)  --WashuOtaku (talk) 04:41, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I've fixed it. -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 12:40, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, thank you again. --WashuOtaku (talk) 13:58, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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Thank You!!!!
Thank you so Much for the edits to the Cherohala Skyway today. I tried to fix it. But you made it even better!!!!! :) ACase0000 (talk) 22:55, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. --WashuOtaku (talk) 23:20, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Gatlinburg Bypass/Foothills Parkway
The NPS said on WBIR TV that the "Bypass around Gatlinburg is now considered a spur of the Foothills Parkway". ACase0000 (talk) 16:00, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * They can be wrong too, I see it often on my local channels how they will use US Shields for State Highway on the weather map. No question that its maintained by the National Park Service, which runs both Great Smoky Mtns and Foothills Parkway.  A recent reference I just added lists both on its brochure even; and from what I'm pulling from the website, it appears that the Great Smoky Mtns NPS also manages the Foothills Parkway in area; doesn't mean they are combined units, just that they operate both.


 * Also, I know for fact that the US 321/US 441 section through the area is the Foothills Parkway Spur because signs can be seen at both ends of it saying "Foothills Parkway;" so having a spur from a spur is odd. More research needs to be gathered for the Gatlinburg Bypass, obviously.  Still can't find anything when it was built, which should shed more light; but seeing how the Gatlinburg Bypass isn't appearing on any documentation directly related with the Foothills Parkway makes it's connection to it less strong than the GSMNP.  Again, if you find references that directly identify this, then I will happily accept it; I will also continue to research.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 16:23, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, Sorry. And I knew that US 321/Us441 was part of it. Have a Great weekend!! ACase0000 (talk) 16:28, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'm just adamant on who directly controls the Gatlinburg Bypass is all. Please don't get frustrated with me on this one article; overall our edits seem to mesh better compared to NE2's.  Have a great weekend as well.  --WashuOtaku (talk) 16:33, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

The Center Line: Fourth Quarter 2014

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