User talk:Washuotaku/Archive 2020

COVID-related train suspensions
Somewhat confused about your claim that it isn't appropriate to note how the Piedmont has been affected by COVID. A number of articles on train routes have chronicled suspensions of this sort, and it would seem more than appropriate to update them in order to let people know when and where they're still running. HangingCurveSwing for the fence 20:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Interstate 40 in North Carolina
As a result of an error in a newspaper column, I have made a correction in this article and I need some input from experts. I didn't see a legend to prove that the maps had certain information so I am guilty of WP:OR.

Here are my conclusions: I am fairly certain I have read the road between Old Fort and Black Mountain was built as a four-lane highway in 1954. Thanks to COVID-19, getting to the source I think made the statement could be kind of a challenge. Whoever made the statement that the road was widened in 1961 used a 1961 map of North Carolina as a source. However, the only difference between that map and previous maps was the color of the road. In 1961 it was green like other sections of I-40. However, the road was not designated as I-40 until 1982, which the article mentions, giving a source. In 1957 through 1960, the road appeared the same as four-lane sections of other roads in North Carolina. I just know the other roads were four lanes, though there is no legend making this clear. The 1955 and 1956 maps make no distinction between two-lane and four-lane roads. — Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  19:14, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * You are correct. In 1954, US 74 was rerouted to a new alignment south from its old alignment (most of which is a hiking trail now) and it featured four-lanes the whole length (here's a postcard, incorrectly dated, of the new road; notice the lack of guard rails). The maps I have, including county maps, show the change-over but also lack the four-lane identifier till later years. I believe the reason I-40 was finally added to it was when they widen it to six-lanes and added a lot of safety features (truck run-off ramps, flashing lights, pull-over area for truckers, a wall median, and guard rails). Hope my rambling helps --WashuOtaku (talk) 20:57, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I know about why they waited to call it I-40. I don't know who added the wrong information to the article but I believe it's correct now.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:44, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have access to newspapers.com and I wanted to see if that would help. I found this (I'm showing you where I reverted because it's wrong). The announcement in the newspaper from 1954 contradicts what the I-40 article says and I'm just wondering if there's any way to use the information from the newspaper. Obviously there was a delay of several years getting that road built, based on the 1959 map, which shows what I mistakenly believed was I-40, but it was correct in the Wikipedia article. — Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  19:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * We have a winner! I found a source for the four-lane U.S. 70 being completed between Old Fort and Ridgecrest in 1954.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  19:57, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for compressing multi-line citations
Thanks for compressing those multi-line citations in Removal of Confederate monuments and memorials. It's one of those things that bugs me (seeing them all drawn out vertically). It's hard enough to read through all the citations without having to deal with that, too. Normal Op (talk) 17:03, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

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Interstate 74 in North Carolina
The road is finished. These two interchanges are no longer "future".— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:28, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Just made another edit. --WashuOtaku (talk) 18:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

South Carolina Highway 118
I see that you reverted my edit on South Carolina Highway 118. I have lived in the Augusta, Georgia area since the end of 2011 and have been to Aiken a few times. This highway is definitely a circle. I see that you went to maps to verify, but how do we determine what is the course of its path? Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * My rule is whatever the state DOT says is "official," because that is the source. However, if signs on the ground do not reflect it, then it should also be noted in the route description or in some other way. I have noticed that South Carolina will sometimes have one thing "officially," but shown differently on the ground. So by no means I am doubting you, but I looked at the state maps and could not confirm it. --WashuOtaku (talk) 11:53, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I apologize. I haven't been to Aiken in a few years, so I decided to check Google Maps Streetview. I had no idea that it was not on the southeastern part of the loop (unless its unsigned). I first thought it was like how supposedly there is a US 1 Connector in North Augusta and possibly Augusta, Georgia. The current Aiken County map shows it on Rivernorth Drive and the 5th Street Bridge, but Georgia's Richmond County map does not mention it at all. However, the navigation system in my car (14 years old and never updated; just a DVD loaded in the dashboard; I checked, and the screen shows the copyright year as 2006). It shows the connector on 5th Street, Reynolds Street, and Bay Street in Augusta, but again, no signage. If you can help with that highway, I would greatly appreciate it. There is no signage overhead or on any blade street signs in either city.
 * Back to SC 118, should I change the entry in my sandbox's list that indicates that it is a beltway (and mention the actual intersections)? Or should I leave it as-is? Thank you. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 12:44, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not a beltway as it currently stands. --WashuOtaku (talk) 12:50, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

US 25 in Edgefield
If you look on Google Maps, there is a truck route and a business loop. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 23:12, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Google Maps is very useful, but officially the Truck route is a secondary road (using SCDOT county maps). I get it, it's signed on the field that way, but it's a lie because officially it is not that (these kind of differences need to be shown in the route description section. --WashuOtaku (talk) 00:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I did see that the truck route (mainline) is actually a secondary road. However, the other route is signed as a business loop, not the mainline. I have seen many business loops in Georgia and South Carolina signed as the mainline, without the "business" plate. Can you add something to the notes column about this? You know better about this than I do. I apologize if I messed anything up. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 01:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know if SCDOT or the city did the signage, but it is obvious they wanted trucks to not go through the city, but for whatever reason didn't go through the proper process. --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Does not need to be in notes, only in the U.S. Route 25 in South Carolina route description. As mentioned in my updates that you should not make the junction list unnecessary complicated, use the KISS method (Keep it simple stupid). Every junction through Edgefield should just be mainline US 25, not business. --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:40, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I did not know that Crystal coast was the real name!
On NC 24 article, I made an edit to it tg reflect advert, due to Crystal Coast being slangish. But now you reverted it, and read your summary, and I didnt even know that existed! Thanks! Bryce M (talk) 16:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

The original SC 7 information
Should the information about the original SC 7 (and its alternate route) be on the South Carolina Highway 72 page (since it replaced SC 7) or on the current SC 7 page? Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 03:59, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

South Carolina infobox links
Since the pages are already South Carolina pages, they don't need "South Carolina" to be displayed in the infobox. It's implied already. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 13:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a consistency matter in this case, keeping the same format across articles. --WashuOtaku (talk) 15:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand being consistent, but – when I was making and expanding the Georgia state highway articles, I was told by the WikiProject to eliminate "Georgia" in the infoboxes, since it is already implied that the highways were/are in that state. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 01:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Every editor does it differently. A lot of the existing infoboxes already have SC on it, so I would appreciate it if you continued it. --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Junction lists
You should ask the rest of the WikiProject if junction lists are supposed to be in "History" sections or other sections on pages. I did it all the time in Georgia because I was informed that that was the actual way it was supposed to be done. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 14:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It appears that Freddie noticed our disagreement. --WashuOtaku (talk) 17:58, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of U.S. Route 221 Alternate (, North Carolina)


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