User talk:Wasillaag

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Hello, Wasillaag, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 17:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
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Wasilla Assembly of God
Hi. I see that you've edited this article, and that your username closely matches the name of the subject. Is this an account for the church itself, or for one of its members? You'll want to have a look at our conflict of interest policy; we typically discourage individuals from editing articles for organizations with which they are associated. We also prohibit usernames that refer to a group rather than an individual, per our username policy. Please review our policies, and discuss the matter here. Thanks, UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 17:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Wasillaag is an account set up by us, the staff of Wasilla Assembly of God... For some reason I'm not getting how to effectively address issues in the articles. The news story being quoted is completely wrong and slanderous. Even the current details in the article (the food bank info and the Missionettes info) are wrong.


 * No problem, happy to help. In this case, the article has been nominated for deletion, which means that one or more editors do not believe that the article meets our criteria for inclusion. I stress that this isn't a criticism of your organization or congregation at all! It's merely an evaluation of the article as it is currently posted here. Generally, we require that subjects of articles be notable, in that they have received significant independent coverage in multiple reliable sources such as newspapers and other media. In this case, as I'm sure you're aware, much of the news coverage featuring your church has related to Governor Palin, so the concern has been raised that there aren't enough sources available that predate Gov. Palin's selection as the VP candidate.


 * So, if your concern is that the article is wildly inaccurate, it may be a non-issue; it's possible that the article will be deleted. If that occurs, we could draft a new, neutral version of the article that shows how your congregation is notable, using independent sources; once that draft is complete, we would have the deletion reviewed and attempt to post the new article. Given all of the media attention and shenanigans of this week (and, likely, the next few months), you might want to leave the article deleted for a while. We can work with you, either way.


 * I stress that, since there is an acknowledged conflict of interest, you should not edit the article directly. The better option, if you want, would be to list some of the specific inaccuracies here. If you have news coverage of the church that predates last week, that would be great - and it would speak to the notability issue. If you wish, you could also pot your concerns to the talk page of the article, located at Talk:Wasilla Assembly of God.


 * The last item, and it's a minor one, is your username. Per our Username policy, accounts that represent a group of individuals, rather than a distinct, single editor, are not permitted. Again, not a criticism of you or your staff, but I would like to ask that you change your username by following the instructions here. To make matters easier, it would be best to change your username before posting on the article's talk page.


 * Hopefully, we can figure something out, here. I won't be around for the next few hours, so if you need assistance, just add to this page, and someone will be by to assist you. Hope this helps, and I know it's a lot to absorb on what's likely been a busy day, but this should be a good start. Best, UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 03:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Inappropriate account AND account name
We do not permit corporate or group accounts in Wikipedia. Each and every member of the staff of Wasilla Assembly of God is entitled to have an account and to edit here, subject to our rules on topics such as conflict of interest and neutral point of view; but the organization itself is not a human being and cannot have an account. In addition, if any individual member of the staff of Wasilla Assembly of God were to get a username such as this one, that account would be blocked and he or she would be gently but firmly instructed to choose a username that did not imply an intention to make edits or create articles in violation of these rules. As it is, This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia, because it has been identified as an account used for promotion of a company or group, with a username that implies that this has been done by that company or group. See Business' FAQ and Conflict of interest.

This kind of activity is considered spamming and is forbidden by Wikipedia policies. In addition, the use of a username like yours violates our username policy.

You may appeal this block by adding the text  or emailing the administrator who blocked you. Your reason should include your response to this issue and a new username you wish to adopt that does not violate our username policy (specifically, understand that accounts are for individuals, not companies or groups, and that your username should reflect this). Usernames that have already been taken are listed here. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. 8-)

You might like to read WP:NOSHARE, a strong Wikipedia policy that forbids the use of shared accounts. This isn't obvious to the new editor, but it does have good underlying reasons necessitated by the potential for abuse it would otherwise permit. Please don't take this as any sort of criticism of your group or any editing you might have done - but it is the policy and it's inflexible.

On a quite separate matter, a look at WP:COI might also be enlightening. Neutrality and WP:NPOV is a key goal of Wikipedia. It's not forbidden for an account to be obviously connected with a particular topic, nor is it forbidden for someone to edit an article they're connected with, but these are both issues of concern. Such edits will be heavily scrutinised by other editors, some editors will be less willing to assume the good faith of their intentions than they might otherwise be, and these edits are discouraged in general. Comments through a talk: page pointing out relevant facts or external references for them are very welcome, but editing the article itself is certainly problematic and generally to be discouraged.

All that said, welcome to Wikipedia. Please don't take these (or any) comments as a personal criticism, but to keep something as big and complicated as this running smoothly, there do have to be some rules. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)