User talk:Wassupwestcoast/Archive to December 2007

Copyeditor's notes on Cramner
Hi there, I inserted several hidden comments at the text's trouble spots in the first sections, preceded by COPYEDITOR'S NOTE. You can view them by clicking "edit this page" on the article and scanning for that. However, several of my notes/edits got wiped out in an edit conflict (gah!). I'm working on re-inserting them now.Galena11 22:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! (Probably me that caused the conflict, sorry.) Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I am glad we are all on this! I had several edits wiped out in a conflict, too! -- SECisek 22:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Copyedit's done--see article talk page. Galena11 19:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your effort. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 19:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Harry and the Potters GA nearly there
Hi Wassupwestcoast, I have been following your work on the above article, and you've done a fantastic job so far. I gave it another read-though, and did a minor copyedit for MoS re dates, band/album names etc. There were still a couple of points that need addressing, so I've left further comments on the talk page. Cheers! EyeSerene TALK 17:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll address the outstanding issues. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 17:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Harry and the Potters GA pass
Congratulations on an excellent copyedit on the suggestions provided. I now have no hesitation in passing Harry and the Potters as a Good Article, and have updated the templates on the article talk page. You may wish to copy the following template:   and paste it to somewhere suitable (such as your user page). It will produce the following userbox

and add you to the category "Good Article contributors".

You did a fantastic job on this. Well done! EyeSerene TALK 17:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 17:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well done from me too. You've put in a lot of good work since I first reviewed the article.  Awesome. The Rambling Man 18:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Archives
Re this edit. Sorry mate, wrong on two counts: -- RHaworth 19:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Talk archives go in the talk: namespace. I see an archive above in user_talk: not user: - what makes you think article talk archives are any different?
 * We never copy & paste if we can help it. We always use move.
 * Thank you for your help! But....according to Help:Archiving a talk page your position is not WP's position. I quote:

There are two main methods for archiving a talk page, detailed below. and The most common, beneficial method is the cut and paste procedure. and There are two alternative procedures which can be used to create a subpage: Cut and paste or move. Whichever way you prefer..
 * You are correct though about user_talk:. Sorry! Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Richard William Enraght
Good Evening, Wassupwestcoast, Thanks for explaining how “See Also” works, should the “Sea Also” heading be deleted? or left in ? or moved to the bottom of the page as it is empty ? As for your comments on Richard Enraght’s marriage, it was no secret unlike some earlier Churchman, I was not sure if it was relevant or not, but I put it in anyway as one of his sons became a priest in his Father’s tradition, and his daughter, married the Vicar of Walsingham. Regards Dave daveportslade 20:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm hardly an expert in WP's policies and style! My experience comes from looking at GA and FA articles and trying to follow some of the - often contradictory debates - on policies and style. On GA articles I've helped with, empty sub-headings were always deleted by those-who-know-better. Yes, I would delete the empty 'See also'. I was more curious about the marriage than offering an opinion about the articles content :-) I think it does add to the article though. It makes him seem ...well...like a 'family man'. Anyway, I like the article. Thank you for having written it. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Farming
The idea was to avoid confusion with an article I am still working on, which will be called Christmas tree farm, farming and farm are just too close and cultivation is accurate too. I think farming will probably stay a redirect to cultivation with a dab notice at the top when I finish all the articles. So it should be safe to link it that way. IvoShandor 16:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have made a few comments at Talk:Christmas tree cultivation, your thoughts are required before I proceed. Thanks for the review, I questioned a few things, but we can discuss. IvoShandor 18:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have made a couple more comments. Check them if you please. I have also started doing a few things. I think the forestry/agriculture issue may merit a section, do you know of any good sources? I am sure I can find them but thought I would inquire. IvoShandor 22:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * A section like that could touch on the research aspect involving silviculture, I must admit, I don't recall seeing much on this, so if you could point me in a direction, I am sure I could go with it pretty easily. IvoShandor 22:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, your critical eye is appreciated, even though I had a few quarrels. I will probably have some upcoming Christmas tree related GACs, if you're interested in the topic.IvoShandor 22:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I just realized we have been on the Wiki about the same amount of time, my one-year was September 3. IvoShandor 15:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

(unindent)Thanks Wassup. I will look them over and see what I can compose from them. I really hope to get all the points addressed this week that you brought up in the review, but I just started a new job and it is destined to consume my time more so than with past jobs. Anyway, I think I can get it done, but I guess if I cannot then I will just renom in the future. I should be able to complete the tasks given the full 7 days though, might even get my article on pests live, Christmas tree pests, if you have a shot maybe take a look, given your agricultural background, let me know if anything really important is missing, bearing in mind, of course, that it isn't completed yet. : ) Thanks again for the sources.

I also wanted to note something else, since you kind of brought it up, on my talk page and at my GA cat proposal. It is the systemic bias that helps drive me. I couldn't believe how many important topics/buildings in architecture weren't covered here, and still aren't, the weak history coverage in a lot of places and other weaknesses in what would be considered by any general encyclopedia as core topics. Somehow I just don't think Pokemon or Simpson episode articles are really adding all that much to collective knowledge, who looks up Pokemon besides Pokemon fans? Grrr... IvoShandor 12:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know, maybe I am being too judgmental, but for my own contributions, I do believe I have only done one pop culture article in my whole time here, Will: G. Gordon Liddy, which has some serious historical underpinnings to it anyway. IvoShandor 13:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks. You didn't have to do that, I appreciate it, especially in light of the new information I must parse. IvoShandor 14:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

IvoShandor, no problem. Your article isn't one more pop culture piece. My major contribution in terms of a constructive article at the GA level is Harry and the Potters! I'll take a look at your developing Christmas tree pests article. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 14:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not knocking your contribs btw, just saying that this is a problem I recognize and areas like GA and FA really emphasize just how dramatic this bias is. Don't get me wrong, I believe this project should represent all notable knowledge but somehow feel that if it is to ever be taken seriously we are going to need to take a moment and see what we're really missing, concentrate on that and then we can get to Pokemon. Keep up the good work Wassup. IvoShandor 14:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, this one has been brewing for the neighbors (you and your buncha snow lovin' brethen ;) up north. : ) IvoShandor 15:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Christmas tree production in Canada... I'll try to contribute. If you're from the midwest, I think you get a ton (tonne) more snow than I see around here :-) Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 15:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

More GA queries
Yeah, but, but, but, sigh, I got nothing, nothing but snow to look forward to. Btw, where is  used? Is it just between numbers with units or all numbers and words? What is the purpose of this? Do you know. This and the ndash has always confused me, why do we use them? IvoShandor 07:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The 'm' and 'n' dash confuse me also. My understanding is that  tries to cure a word-wrap problem where - horrors - the number and the unit appear on two different lines. I've had comments about this but I think it is silly and just a bit more coding that alienates a lot of good Wiki contributors. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 18:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, about the subheadings, should I broaden the scope of this article to include farm history or leave that to the other article. Both cultivation and farm are about 30 kb each, and poised to grow as is, without any major content shifting (of which I have done some before I went live with cultivation). Did you have any thoughts on this?IvoShandor 07:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't had a chance to read the article. I think just enough history to put the article in context for a reader who knows nothing about a topic is always a good idea. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 18:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The article is almost ready (spent much of my day off on it), I think. I am having User:Cricketgirl give it a thorough copy edit (we've worked together before on a couple GA noms, one is now featured). Would you mind taking a quick look to see if I have neglected any of your concerns or not addressed them fully enough? Thanks again. IvoShandor 17:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I will look over it! I haven't had a chance to read it but I suspect all will be good! Cheers!Wassupwestcoast 18:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you. I was wondering if I got enough done. I still plan to implement some of your odds and ends suggestions. I wasn't sure about that comment, I figured it wasn't you but just addressed it with the other commments. I am glad it was made, because now I know that should be clarified. Anons can be blunt and uncivil but often, as readers, they have good points. IvoShandor 11:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Agriculture WikiProject
Sorry, not trying to stalk you or anything. But would you be interested in helping to start up an agriculture WikiProject? I am willing to invest the time getting it off the ground if there is enough interest. I think I will post a proposal and then link it here for you. IvoShandor 10:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've actually tried this. I tried to re-vitalize the Horticulture and Gardening project and no response. I also placed the agriculture nav boxes every where appropriate and had numerous agriculture articles on my watch list but almost no activity. I really think the Wikipedia demographics would not make this a success. I think it is best to carry agriculture articles to GA and FA status as you are doing is the most efficient constructive contribution to Wikipedia. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 18:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Episcopal Church in the United States of America
Let's push this to GA. It needs citations and some rounding out, but it is solid since my revamp the other day. When the history is finished, we can cut it and paste it over the existing History article and trim it down to size at the main article. There is too much info on the last 25 years in the history as it is now. Still, lets finish it before making the cuts. -- SECisek 22:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK!. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, seperate articles or somebody will scream bloody murder. -- SECisek 05:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Christmas tree farm
User:IvoShandor/Christmas tree farm, this article, still in user space is almost done enough to go to the main space. What I was wondering is could you take a look at it, I am worried about too much overlap with the cultivation article. It covers the farms as a separate topic, but you cannot talk about farms without some discussion of cultivation and topics that I have presented more in depth in other articles. Anyway, any thoughts would be appreciated. IvoShandor 12:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Scrolling
The point you made about scrolling reference lists is not limited, in principle, to reference lists. It is at least applicable to *any* list, if not to any scrolling frame [?]. If it is HTML that is bad for a Wiki, is there some way to get it excluded? Is excluding it contentious? DCDuring 15:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid my work on 'scrolling reference lists' really was just a copy edit. The info was in an unrelated paragraph so I just brought it out. I don't know the history or discussion about 'scrolling' in general. I agree with your points. I'm not certain which Wiki forum is the best place to discuss it. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 15:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit Previews
Thank you for your edits. Please use the Show preview button to enable you to combine edits and reduce the number of Saves that you do. This avoids bulking out the edit History with lots of small edits. The Show preview button is located just to the right of the Save button that you use. Thanks. Hu 01:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the tip. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 02:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Anglican COTM
Will you update it for October? I am also taking a couple days off of TEC v. PECUSA to get my GA candidates in shape. I am all too sure the argument will still be there when I get back to it. -- SECisek 23:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 00:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

We need a COTM and there are two noms. - can you pick one again? BTW, looking above I would like to note that when I returned the ECUSA a week later, the pest was gone and the facts have stood ever since. What a valuable lesson. -- SECisek 22:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I chose Anglican devotions. (Like a lot of things in life, perseverance wins out: e.g. The Tortoise and the Hare). Cheers! Wassupwestcoast`

Project census
Check this out: WikiProject Illinois is currently taking a census its members and restructuring its membership list. The current list will be maintained but we have blanked it temporarily. The project would like all active WikiProject Illinois participants to "resign up" at The Participants page, just follow the short, hidden instructions. Failure to "resign up" will not result in removal of your name but you will be listed as "inactive" by the project. Thanks for your time; response on this census, the project's first, is important to the future direction of our effort as a collaborative project.

Perhaps we should do something like this to get a better idea of who is still editing Anglicanism-related articles. It would allow us to get the word out about current projects. -- SECisek 17:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No need to cull the list, but it would be nice to know who our "core" editors are for COTM, FAs and GAs, and other projects. I know our legendary founder Fishhead64, Carolynparrishfan, David Underdown, Myopic Bookworm, Roger Arguile, InkQuill, Angr, John Carter, clariosophic, Millbanks, and you. Fredrick Jones shows up from time to time, makes a big mess, and then disappears. He hasn't figured out how to - or bothered - to sign up. Beyond that...no idea about the other 70 some names on the list. -- SECisek 03:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted: Rown Williams archive talk
The page you requested deleted, Talk:Rowan Williams/Archive up to September 20071, has been deleted under WP:CSD. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 10:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Why did you put this on my talk page?
I don't understand why you put the "Anglican collaboration of the month" on Rowan Williams on my talk page. If that invites others to write on my talk page, it would be inappropriate, since it's not my project. InkQuill 02:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Richard William Enraght
Made some notes regarding the lead and grammar, etc for Richard William Enraght. Good luck with your good article nomination. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk  05:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Editor review/Wassupwestcoast
I reviewed you. Sorry for the month-long delay. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 13:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your review! Cheers. Wassupwestcoast 06:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

In-line citations
I nearly got sick when I saw the templates were pulled. I chided him myself on his talk page before you did so on the BCP talk page. What fun! -- SECisek 18:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup, what fun!!! Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 21:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * All you got was a footnote number at the bottom. The text was blank.  Chech th the diff. Check out one my GAs to the best way I have found to do it. -- SECisek 22:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK - actually I had just checked your Thomas Cranmer! How do you get around having a page number appear in the first instance of the citation template. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

It seems it is going to, but page numbers will still be recorded in the text of article in subsequent cites. They just wont appear in the reflist. I don't know what I am doing either, but they keep passing my GAs, so I must be doing something right. I have six so far and I am going nominate another 3 or 4 in the next couple of days. Best, -- SECisek 22:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. You are doing something right. Good luck on your GA nom. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

-- SECisek 22:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand that you and SECicek are set upon an electronic system of referencing which I do not understand and do not like. I see here that you have been having a degree of fun about it. I personally feel that an article which managed without it does not need it and it creates confusion. It appears from David Underdown that you have a mission to introduce it in the whole of the BCP article. That appears to me discourteous. I, for my part, have to put up with changes to the substance which, in the case of the English Reformation, are the repetition of very dubious information which I am now in the process of correcting. That it comes from another article, if anything, makes the matter worse. I am sure that there are people who delight in 'inline citations'. Substance is what matters and,having put in some tertiary stuff into the BCP which needed correcting, I am now having to sort out the English Reformation. In the circumstances I can do without a mixed system of referencing. Is it possible that you and SECisek can allow the previous system to be used? Roger Arguile 10:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Reginald Fessenden
I'll be glad to. I ran him on Google earlier tonight anf found a lot of new stuff. I was trying to verify the info on his house in Newton, Massachusetts and found some things I was looking for plus a ton of radio and technical stuff. Apparently he has quite a group of admirers in those areas. I also learned that his RCA settlement was $2.5 million. I learned also that he if from the Massachusetts family that produced a Senator from Maine after the Civil War. I also found something from someone whose grandparents bought the Chestnut Hill house from his heirs and she told of all the equipment that he had left. A lot of the bios, though, seem to gloss over the fact that, while he always considered himself a Canadian, he spent most of his working life in the US and the Chestnul Hill house was his home base for most of his life. I'm still wondering about the Bermuda house. Some call it a vacation house, while others call it a retirement house. I'll start at the top and find refs. clariosophic 01:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Good stuff. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 01:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Critical reception
Can I suggest not quoting so repeatedly, as you've done at The Seeker (film)? I would suggest looking at something like Batman Begins to see how you can cover a film's critical reception without that much quoting. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 12:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll modify it later in the day. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 13:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Agriculture
IvoShandor mentioned you have an interest/background in Agriculture. Please consider joining our new Project, we could really use all the help and advice we could get!--Doug.(talk • contribs) 22:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:03, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * As for the Navbox, we've discussed that a little on the Project's talk page (very cursory and burried within Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Agriculture) and it probably could use a little more discussion. There's some concern that the current Navbox is overgrown and I've seen a lot of talk elsewhere that such things should just be links to the Portal.  I started a framework for a horizontal navbox for the bottom of the page, but I have concerns that they are just clutter and that the Portal link may be the way to go.  Still, that's just my opinion, please tell us what you think.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 02:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I all for the portal. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 03:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

3 revert rule
I know Tonyseel's being a pain, but unfortunatley to report him for breaking WP:3RR, I'd have to report you too. POssibly the fact taht you are restoring the latest figures and he's going back to old ones means you'd be treated more leniently, but I don't really want to see you getting blocked. Let some of us do some reverting for a bit. I think I'll ask for page protection too. David Underdown 12:20, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 13:25, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Gene Robinson
ROTFL! Thanks - always happy to provide fairy-esque services :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 19:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Old St. Paul's
The box was taken from Elgin Cathedral. The x's indicate foundation dates. It is confusing and a better could be designed. Be bold. -- SECisek 14:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Better to burn out than fade away. Seriously, 2008 is an election year in the States and my job will keep quite busy. I doubt I will be able maintain the pace I have up to this point, but I plan to stay on as much as possible for as long as possible. Thank you for the kind words. -- SECisek 00:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

"See also" on Nicktropolis
I had to revert that because Club Penguin really doesn't have anything to do with Nicktropolis. Sorry! Jonathan •  end transmission  _ 18:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Christmas item on Template:Announcements/Community bulletin board
I removed the item you added about Christmas-related articles because it is not in the context of a WikiProject drive and is unduly Christian-centric. Many non-Christians and people who don't celebrate Christmas edit en.wikipedia. Please contact me if you think I am wrong. --Oldak Quill 19:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

My Autograph Page
Thank you for signing it! However, I got the source code from, so please give him the credit. Also I'm not an administrator, an aspiring one yes, but not one. Just trying to help out over at WP:SSP as that is one of the places I would like to help out if I ever become an admin. Thank you for thinking of me as one though, I take that as a compliment :-). Regards, Bmg 916 Speak 13:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Joy Division
I've addressed many of your points on the talk page and will tackle the rest in the next few days. Thanks for your review. WesleyDodds 05:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I must contest your failing of the article when it was still under hold (and had been on hold for only a day or so). I in all confidence felt I could've addressed your concerns in the sufficient time, as I have done extensive work on articles in comparable time, and I had already addressed many of them in less than twnety minutes' work. Additionally I find your request for redundant citations unfounded, since per academic convention, all information followed by a citation is thus referenced and supported by that citation; there's no need for one after every sentence if all those sentences come from the same specific source (particularly page numbers). Nevertheless as I am confident that I and my fellow editor Ceoil are near completion of the article, I plan to skip a GA renomination altogether and simply move to Peer Review and then FAC. Thanks for your review. WesleyDodds 04:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I've participated in a number of FACs and FARs and using citations to reference multiple sentences has never been a problem; in fact, it's been encouraged where appropriate. I do welcome any material you can contribute from the Middles book. We've been working on the article at a user page here so you can play around with things. WesleyDodds 05:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing me to the sandbox. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 05:11, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Brian Valentine
You prod'ed this article. The PROD deletion has been contested and the article restored. GRBerry 22:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Yikes!!!!
I submitted Harry and the Potters for a peer review, a week or so ago and it didn't seem to help much, so as the article is quite comprehensive I sumbitted it. I too, will be awaiting comments from others. Hpfan9374 (talk) 22:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Christmas
We COULD do a Celebration of Christmas in the Anglican Communion or some such, if you wished. -- SECisek (talk) 16:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

History of the ACC
I certainly do not wish to disparage your admirable contributions to this article (and I have also referred the question to Ms Carolyn Fan, who is a frequent and intelligent contributor to it) but do you not possibly think that the pre-settlement history of Anglicanism in anglophone Canada is now assuming a disproportionate amount of space in this article? I await Ms Fan's comments -- there do not appear to be all that many people other than herself who are interested in such an article as this but one needs to find consensus. Masalai (talk) 21:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Would you object, then, if I create a new sub-article and move some of the history discussion in the main article there? Masalai (talk) 00:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, sub it if it has grown to big. The article is getting rather large (that is good!)--SECisek (talk) 04:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Harry and the Potters (2008)
Would you be happy if I were to add another subheading under History in the Harry and the Potters article early next year regarding their history from 2008-onwards. I do presume it will be a the second last subheading as their project is coming to a culmination — however I do hope not. I believe if they were to continue the Wizard Rock EP of the Month Club through next year, then they would release fourth EP. I also believe they will record another full album next year as it has been a while. Hpfan9374 (talk) 11:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, like the new lead section! Hpfan9374 (talk) 11:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

GA review
Thanks for taking on the GA review. I addressed all the specific points you brought up at Talk:Est and The Forum in popular culture, and I am going to do another run-through soon for incidental copy-editing stuff. Anything else in particular you can think of that is holding the article back from GA status that I could work on specifically? Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (talk) 03:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC).
 * Okay, great. I will try to look it over and make some more readability changes over the next coupla days if I see anything else, and then I will let you know.  Thanks for taking the time on it!  Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (talk) 04:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC).
 * Thanks for all of your help! I am going to see if there is more minor improvements to be made, and send this one for a review in the future.  Thanks again, Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (talk) 04:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC).

WP WizRock
I have seen all the brilliant work you have done on numerous Wizard Rock wikipedia articles I want to show you the new WP i am proposing, which is WikiProject Wizard Rock See if your interested  Ka5hmir TalkToMe! 04:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject_Council/Proposals

Coaching
Sorry I didn't see your request for coaching sooner. The actual discussion area was on the project page rather than the talk page.

If you are still interested, see examples of my coaching style at User:The Transhumanist/Virtual classroom/Coaching/Phoenix-wiki and User:The Transhumanist/Virtual classroom/Coaching/Auroranorth.

If you would like coaching in which you will get your hands dirty, let me know.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   03:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re
See the Talk page on Elizabeth, re info about slavery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.4.21 (talk) 13:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC) Some research should have been done by you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.4.21 (talk) 13:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC) This will stop you treating well known facts as unsourced or contentious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.4.21 (talk) 13:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not disputing the 'facts'. I am disputing the lack of any attribution to a reliable and verifiable source. The statement is not common knowledge. Please, state where the 'fact' comes from. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 14:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Harry and the Potters / Wikibreak
Hi & Bye. I will do what I can do with Harry and the Potters, don't expect anything to big.. take care on your wikibreak. Hpfan9374 07:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA
Hey there! Thanks for throwing your "hat" into the ring - we can always use more admins. I hope you don't get discouraged by the oppose votes so far. The majority of them seem to be because the editors lack enough information to make an informed judgment about you. Would you consider expanding your answers to the questions, especially #1? It might help change some votes. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk  14:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Katherine Patterson
hey i dont know how to get ahold of you, but you said i vandalized a page when i didn't. you might want to get that cleared up... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.239.60.183 (talk) 22:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi. This comment was made way back in March 2007. This is what I was commenting on - . As this is an IP account perhaps it was the work of a completely different user. Anyway, someone deleted info without an explanation as to why they were doing it. Such behaviour is odd. You should always use the edit summary to explain your actions especially deletions. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 22:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Inactive projects
It would help to know which projects are specifically being discussed. Generally, they are "put to rest" by either being deleted outright, or by being merged in some way with some other project which deals with the material of the project to be "put to rest". Merger proposals are probably best discussed on the talk pages of the projects to be merged. Also, in general, if the project hasn't had any recent activity (say for the past three months), it could be tagged as "inactive" and placed on the WikiProject Council/Inactive projects page. That would make its status known to a few more editors, and maybe help produce some results of some kind or other. John Carter (talk) 17:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Not able to edit some articles
I am not able to edit some artiles in this encyclopedia as i am adwministration is doing this for its best this can get some-what annoying This includes Christmas Articles in Particular Why are'nt i able to do this? hannah (talk) 19:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Break from Wikibreak
I didn't think you would be able to make it two weeks without 'wiki'.. I am have submitted Harry and the Potters twice now for FA status, this has provided extensive feedback. I am trying to work out how to tackle these problems and where to begin. After this a second peer review is required before nominating the article for FA status again. I have also edited parts of Draco and the Malfoys, mainly the discography and feel it would be great to get to GA status. I also feel that two other wizard rock artists, The Remus Lupins and The Parselmouths are almost-notable, I am collecting sources. I also would like to bring to your attention the proposed Wikipedia:WikiProject Wizard Rock, it would be very much appreciated if you could add your name to the interested wikipedians section. After all this I would also like to say "good luck" for your request for adminship, I have strongly supported yourself. Hpfan9374 (talk) 01:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have formatted and wikified parts of the Draco and the Malfoys article and related articles for you to start copyediting tomorrow. I have also found 1 very good for images, you may wish to use these in the Draco and the Malfoys article once expanded. Hpfan9374 (talk) 10:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Campaign
I know you aren't supposed to campaign for these things, but you could have told me that you were up for admin. I alerted the Anglicanism project, as I know you won't. Best of luck, you deserve it. -- SECisek (talk) 20:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I am indeed the Field Director for my party's state senators, so I will have quite a 2008. I am already quite busy with a primary election here Illinois. I should really be at the office right now. What fun. -- SECisek (talk) 21:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Well done. It would be good to see him around here again. He was more or less walking out on the project as I was walking in. We also need to nominate some more GAs, everything passed...how close do you think the COTM is to GA? -- SECisek (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Wizard Rock
Alright then, I was creating a page for it yesterday, to way to long to start it even. But I have started two new pages up in my namespace, The Remus Lupins and The Parselmouths. I have made an outline of these articles, yet wish to get Draco and the Malfoys to GA status before proving notability and moving to mainspace. I think I've done most of what I can do to the Draco and the Malfoys article, however I wish to contribute to it further, if there is anything I can do then reply, I am a minute away. Hpfan9374 (talk) 23:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Very well, I might make some edits in to Draco and the Malfoys in the next few hours, don't expect anything major. Hpfan9374 (talk) 23:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

The Copyeditor's Barnstar

 * You deserve it. Looking forward to seeing what copyediting you can do on Draco and the Malfoys hopefully we can get that up to Good Article status. I am logging off now, to get a computer upgrade (just a video card), so I might be back in 5 hours, or 2-3 days.. hopefully a couple of hours. Best of luck editing. Hpfan9374 (talk) 00:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Christmas 2007
Christmas is too much fun to spend it on Wikipedia - even if Wikipedia is addictive. I'll be here but will be gone merry making at regular intervals. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 04:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations
I'm pleased to inform you that you are now an administrator. Please read all the material on the administrators' reading list before testing out your new privileges. For instructions, please see the administrators' how-to guide. Best of luck &mdash; Dan | talk 04:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 04:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

And congrats! Ealdgyth | Talk 04:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Article
The article on iBuilt.net was not commercial. It contained internal links to similar companies with current articles. There were no external links to iBuilt.net. This is a significant company with global customers. It deserves an entry just as much as Comscore, Alexa Internet, and Netcraft. I worked hard to take the commercial aspect out of the article. I'd like to ask you to take a second look and compare it with these and other companies. I'l like to know how the article you delete was any different that the articles on say, Dairy Queen, Home Depot, Sears, Best Buy, Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, and on and on. There are hundreds of entries on companies on Wikipedia. What makes the one I added any more commercial than them? Egoober (talk) 22:55, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see your talk page. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 23:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

The Makers (American Band)
Hi. I deprodded this article today and have expanded it and added refs (although it still needs work). I thought I should point out that WP:MUSIC guidelines state that an artist is notable if they have "released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)." The Makers have released nine albums, all on notable labels, including 2 on Sub Pop records, one of the most notable US 'indie' labels of the last 20 years (Nirvana et al), so are hardly "Not notable".--Michig (talk) 13:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 14:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Your deletion of : UBS Bloomberg CMCI
Dear Wassupwestcoast,

You speedy deleted the new page titled: "UBS Bloomberg CMCI" and you indicated that some of the items in the article were blatant advertising.

Although I considered the page as presenting facts only, I am happy to reconsider the wording with you so we can meet the encyclopedic criterias that you are defending.

Would you please be able to indicate under which conditions you would revise such judgement and what wording would meet your criteria for non-advertising?

Best regards

Drouinje —Preceding comment was added at 15:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 17:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats
Congrats on all you successus! -- SECisek (talk) 05:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Harry and the Potters discography
Yes, I was concerned as whether or not a list could become a good article. I shall leave the nominated open however, and wait for a reply. After that I will make the appropriate edits and nominate the article as a featured list, shouldn't be that hard.. Hpfan9374 (talk)
 * OK. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 00:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have now submitted it for feature list status, and edited the appropriate references. Hpfan9374 (talk) 07:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Metallica
Seems like someone forgot about this after their new admin powers ;) M3tal H3ad (talk) 03:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Hi! I have seen all the cool stuff on your talk & user look up page. I really want to add a box saying i like swimming and a smiley how do i do this?? hannah (talk) 18:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Me and Wiki
Thanks for your note. WP is incredibly time- and energy-consuming, and I get very little positive feedback for it. So I appreciate your comments. I now have a full-time parish, but I'll consider your invitation, and see if I can book some regular time each week to make some contributions. I've been easing back into it, almost entirely on non-Anglican articles, and we;ll see where it goes from there. fishhead64 (talk) 21:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Harrow schoold FAC
That's ok, I was probably a bit tetchy anyway because this is the only article I've worked really hard for to get featured, I have a list of eight books I will enquire at my local library about tomorrow 1. Harrow: Portrait of an English School by Robert Dudley 2. A history of Harrow School 1324-1991 by Christopher Tyerman 3. Harrow School: Yesterday and today 4. Harrow School song book; complete edition 1862-1922 5. Lord Byron at Harrow School: Speaking out, talking back, acting up and bowing out by Paul Elledge 6. Harrow School and its surroundings 7. Rambles around Eton and Harrow 8. Old Harrow days

If this amount of references isnt enough to satisfy the criteria I'm doing something very very wrong. I'm just a little concerned that over the festive period it may be quite difficult for the library to come up with the goods as it were. But, I'm determined to get it featured. Thanks for the message --Hadseys (talk • contribs) 01:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Tom Sawyer
Thanks mate. =) In all fairness, Sawyer is one of the most icon literature characters and deserves his own page. =) -CamT undefined 08:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)