User talk:Wayne Slam/Archives/2010/September

help me
Is there another way where you can request for the rollback feature? Wayne Olajuwon (talk) 01:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm reviewing your account right now. — GorillaWarfare talk 01:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Wayne Olajuwon (talk) 01:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks to me like you need a little more experience editing Wikipedia before you get rollback rights. You have a lot of declined speedy deletions and seem to be pretty unfamiliar with a lot of the inner workings of Wikipedia. Furthermore, I don't see a lot of vandal reversion in your contributions (although that could be because you don't use many edit summaries -- you should!). I'd suggest starting doing more vandal reversion. You can use Twinkle to revert vandalism easily, and it doesn't require rollback rights like Huggle does. — GorillaWarfare talk 01:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

How do I use Twinkle? Wayne Olajuwon (talk) 02:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * See TWINKLE, and WP:Twinkle/doc. Once you install it, make sure you have read the directions and only use it to revert blatant vandalism.  — fetch ·  comms   02:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Wayne Olajuwon (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Signature
— GorillaWarfare talk 18:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
You have  new messages ( last change ).  — fetch ·  comms   21:49, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Help me
Is there a chance that I can be administrator now? Wayne Olajuwon chat   00:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Not with this incessant helpme-ing. Wait a year and see.  — fetch ·  comms   00:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Wayne Olajuwon chat   00:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Most people like to wait until they are at least 6 months old and have 30,000 edits before running for adminship. Also, your incessant helpme-ing is just annoying all of us on IRC.  Mr. R00t    Talk  00:41, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Wayne Olajuwon chat   00:41, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * 30,000 is a stretch. The common minimum is about 6–8 months, with at least 4,000 exceptional edits, or about 6,000–8,000 including automated and such.  — fetch ·  comms   00:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I only have 1,975 edits. Wayne Olajuwon chat   00:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about your edit count. Just keep on editing what you like to, and others will know when you're ready, and maybe they'll offer to nominate! Being an admin isn't very different. You just do the boring stuff like nuking pages (which gets you lots of complaints on your talk page). But seriously, you'll have to gain the community's trust and demonstrate a need for the tools and sufficient policy knowledge. Furthermore, you will need to show that you have sound judgement. BTW, I like your edit notice :D Airplaneman   ✈  03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. You might be interested in these links: Guide to requests for adminship, How to pass an RfA Airplaneman   ✈  03:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Wayne Olajuwon chat   22:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

edit
If you could advise as to what was incorrect about the below revision, I would greatly appreciate the feedback. Thank you.

Sen. John Boehner: Boehner has also been accused of having an overly comfortable relationship with student loan giant Sallie Mae. According to "Student Loan Justice," a grassroots organization dedicated to ending predatory student lending tactics, Boehner and Howard "Buck" Mckeon cosponsored significant changes to The Higher Education Act (HEA). The changes made student loans some of the "most lucrative and easiest type of debt to collect." [17] In 2003-2004, Boehner's political action committee -- the Freedom Project-- received $572,719 from individuals, according to records filed with the Federal Election Commission and analyzed by PoliticalMoneyLine. More than half of that, $292,570, came from employees and lobbyists for private student lending companies and for-profit academic institutions.[18] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yougotit30 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Rollback
Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:
 * Rollback gives you access to certain scripts, including Huggle and Igloo, some of which can be very powerful, so exercise caution
 * Rollback is only for blatant vandalism
 * Having Rollback rights does not give you any special status or authority
 * Misuse of Rollback can lead to its removal by any administrator
 * Please read Help:Reverting and Rollback feature to get to know the workings of the feature
 * You can test Rollback at New admin school/Rollback
 * You may wish to display the User wikipedia/rollback userbox and/or the Rollback top icon on your user page
 * If you have any questions, please do let me know.

-- HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   15:45, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   18:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

You deserve it!
Thanks!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   19:32, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Excuse Me?
I think you've been mistaken. You think that this edit is considered vandalism. I was only saying to the user that he has a new message on my talk page. Nothing serious. Since everyone is human, and mistakes happen, I'll ask you to please not falsely accuse anyone of vandalism again. Jeremy McClean (Talk) 21:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry about that. I won't let that happen again.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:37, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

inre Articles for deletion/Mayoori (actress)
With respects... you might wish to drop back by the article and its AFD and give serious thought to considering a withdrawal of the nomination. Regards,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:03, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow. Fast response. Is that a withdawal?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * When you added this were you aware at that point that the subject was deceased and WP:BLP did/does not apply in such cases? No offense... just asking. Thanks,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
Instead of reverting vandalism, [ I reverted vandalism reversion]. Sorry. — Waterfox ( talk ) 22:18, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

That's okay.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Sonic The hedgehog
I was in no way vandalising the page. Sonic colors is the latest release in the Sonic series and therefore represents the series as a whole. --74.70.144.254 (talk) 22:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

The X-Files
What vandalism? FisherQueen said I wasn't being disruptive. People apparently didn't like the several edits I made yesterday for whatever reason. Now my latest edit was NOT a reversion. I only made one of my edits from yesterday to see if people would like it. Why mention Millennium without also mentioning Carter's other series Harsh Realm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.209.129 (talk) 22:44, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you change it?  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I did try to change it, but you reverted the edit and warned me about vandalism. 98.231.209.129 (talk) 22:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you change it right now?  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

It looks like someone just removed the Millennium mention, basically saying "prove it". OK, I won't put Harsh Realm in there. But I'd like to make other edits to the X-Files, and I hope you know that I am not trying to vandalize, I am trying to make good faith edits, and it's frustrating when people just delete without explaining why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.209.129 (talk) 22:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Those edits you will make won't be reverted unless if you don't put an edit summary.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:58, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

OK, but I actually did put an edit summary on the one edit that you reverted. ;) 98.231.209.129 (talk) 23:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Your edit wasn't constructive and that's why it was reverted.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:02, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

So then why did you tell me earlier "Why don't you change it right now?" 98.231.209.129 (talk) 23:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Nate Garner
Why did you change info on the page Nate Garner? I gained that information from a public source that is already referenced in the article. Nwgarne (talk) 23:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Everybody's been reverting your edits with that information you're putting.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

What is the reason? The information is valid!!! Nwgarne (talk) 23:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Copyright violations is the reason.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

How can you copyright a statistic and a persons place of birth? Nwgarne (talk) 23:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

You would need to find it on the internet or you can ask that question on your talk page and someone will tell you how.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I just asked you? so you can change legitimate information that i added without cause then tell me to go figure it out? Nwgarne (talk) 23:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

The information would have to be in your own words and not directly copied from any copyrighted website.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:32, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

The changes made were 3 numbers and a city... there is no way to put that in my own words!!!! Nwgarne (talk) 23:37, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps you should actually read users' edits before being a little too quick on the draw to revert them? In this case and in the X-Files editor's case, they went back and forth with you several times before you finally realized their edits were not vandalism/copyright violations. Weakipedist (talk) 05:16, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   19:47, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

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User:Popskullmiseh
The article Shawn Storm was CSDd twice yesterday with the same content, created by User:Shawn Storm who was blocked for a week. Popskullmiseh appears to be a sockpuppet.  Falcon8765  (T ALK ) 22:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

He probably is. That's why he made the article Shawn Storm. You should report Popskullmiseh.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:26, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Already did, just letting you know.  Falcon8765  (T ALK ) 22:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for letting me know!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:28, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Btw after mentioning rollback to me I got around to requesting and got accepted. Been good working on the project with you :).  Red Flag on  the Right Side  23:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome and thank you!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Clerk elections
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IBM Customer Experience Suite
Could you please remove the listing for IBM Experience Suite please. It's an unreleased product suite and should not have been published. It will be launched mid Sept.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to email me at bjaffery AT ca.ibm.com

Removed because there's no references on that list.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   20:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:28, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   00:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:
 Tide  rolls  01:00, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I've replied on my talk.  Tide  rolls  01:07, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   01:08, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Your welcome!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   20:31, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.111.179.186 (talk) 23:22, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi
I'm sorry, can I talk to someone that ISN'T A computer please, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.111.179.186 (talk) 23:23, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Fine
I'll stop editing the damn page if you delete it. No one has ACTUAL proof that is the CD's name or information. I'll quit if this is done. That's it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.203.240 (talk) 23:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

You can ask an administrator to delete it.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Any specific administrator I can talk to about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.203.240 (talk) 23:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

User:Tide rolls.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   00:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Rancho Cucamonga High School
Reverting blanking is NOT vandalism. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 00:03, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   00:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

BLP Prods
When proposing an article on a living person for deletion solely because the article is not referenced, please use the blpprod template and process. When proposing such an article for deletion because you, as an editor, have reviewed it and do not believe that it would meet criteria for inclusion even if it were sourced, feel free to continue using the prod process and criteria. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 17:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the information!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Your welcome!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

My Chemical Romance track listings on Two live albums.
I know it must seem as if i am attempting to vandalize the page, but I am in fact just trying to make it accurate. The song titled "It's not a fashion statement, it's a Deathwish" does in fact have the F-Word in the song title. It seems to be allowed on the album "Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge" i'm just not sure why it is considered vandalism on "The Black Parade is Dead" and "Venganza". I assure you i only was trying to help make the page accurate. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.182.77.221 (talk) 23:43, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Please add a reference right next to that song name in order for it not be considered vandalism.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Not sure how to do that, i put in the edit summary that the other album did in fact allow it. its not that big of a deal to me just thought it was odd. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.182.77.221 (talk) 23:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Please tell somebody to add the reference for you.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:52, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

would the other wikipedia page, the one for "Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge", be an acceptable reference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.182.77.221 (talk) 23:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

You would need to find the reference and then place an edit summary about adding the reference.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Hollyoaks
The edit you are referring to was a false positive and has already been reported via Cluebot reporting page. 88.104.19.212 (talk) 22:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Laurie is NOT a Vandal
=Dear Wayne, I am not a vandal. Joseph Pach is my father and I was just trying to update the link displayed for "The Duo Pach" in the Reference section. After several misses I finally figured it out but still don't uderstand why I did, in the end, manage to fix it. Please take off all those offensive "Vandal" messages from my profile.= LLPach (talk) 02:56, 19 September 2010 (UTC)Thank you, Laurie

Please put an edit summary saying that's your father and nobody will revert it.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   15:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

thank you
for undoing those bad edits to my bad user page. :-)--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 22:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:53, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page Vrenator (talk) 19:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   19:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Reply
Yes, that is vandalism. Don't stress yourself out by questioning if it is "blatant vandalism".. that's a bunch of crap because vandalism can be ambiguous. Use your gut instinct, but obviously take your time reverting and always be prepared to defend a revert if someone questions a revert, which they probably shouldn't. You do a good job. -- Tom my! 22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I did revert that vandalism and thank you.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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Not vandalism
. I reverted the user before for removing content, and for that revert, the user did not remove content. Thanks, Tom my! 21:33, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Just be careful please. Like I told you, revert anything, as long as you can comfortably justify it. Don't need new users getting blocked for only trying to help, in blind negligence or otherwise. -- Tom my! 21:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay, and will you try to help me be better at reverting vandalism?  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, if you'd like help, but I think you're fine. It's all about using your instinct if the user is trying to help or just cause trouble. Cheers Tom my! 22:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for the cookie!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Not vandalism
This is not vandalism as per WP:CENSOR, is it not?  TheRasIsBack!  T ●C 23:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


 * All good :)  TheRasIsBack!  T ●C 23:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Why is it vandalism?
Im seeking free speech.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.71.200 (talk) 02:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Censoring
About your edits to Over (Drake song), censoring is required when pulling a direct quote in which the publisher censors the word. The only time you do not censor is when the original is not censoed. However in the review, the reviewer censored the word. You cannot change their quote if you are usng it because they wrote it like that. Candy o32  20:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   20:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

September 2010 WP:NASCAR News
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Thanks...but...
Thanks for helping, but will you please let me add the results completely, or you can add ALL the right results by this link  Nascar  1996   20:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I would rather do it, you've already done about eight and you have made mistakes. Once this table is compplete it is hard to fix them.  Nascar  1996   20:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay and I was trying to help add the race results.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   20:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

sorry
Im sorry for my unconstructive edits, I will try to make more constructive edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadow336 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

IP
It seems to me that most of the IPs seem to be the same user that is always adding unsourced trivia on Tom and Jerry pages and they just never give up.--IGeMiNix (talk) 22:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

They should be blocked because they're adding unsourced information to Tom and Jerry pages.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

 * keep bringing on those questions! Tom my! 02:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

your recent revert
I am the bot operator! I have the wikibreak enforcer on, so I had to edit as an IP address. 24.178.137.65 (talk) 22:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry because I didn't know it was you.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you
Thank you for fighting vandalism against my user page. TYelliot (talk) 20:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   20:39, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Good call
I mean this. I think the edit in question (now deleted) involved the editor replacing the speedy tag with a tag rather than simply adding the latter: a common new user error, and I agree it's not a good reason to block. -- Rrburke (talk) 23:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC) It's not a good reason to block, and he recreated the DeucePro. Entertainment page.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, at least he recreated it with the speedy tag already in place. Saves us the work! -- Rrburke (talk) 23:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes it does!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

some Huggle tips
Here's what I did to avoid accidentally hitting "q" (of course it still happens to me too once in a while):
 * Avoid keeping your finger over the q button, except, and only except, during times of high levels of vandalism.
 * Make sure the top slot (where it says "Page" next to a drop down list) matches the title on the diff screen.
 * Try using only "r" key instead. This simply reverts the edit, but doesn't warn the user. Once it's reverted, you can still manually warn the user by clicking the triangle ! button.
 * If you're ever unsure, use a custom summary. This way, 1. no one can accuse you of misusing it and 2.you are better to learn from mistakes.

Was this helpful? Tom my! 21:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I tried to use the "r" key but it didn't revert.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It should. Also, you can always use "space." You will never, ever, ever get in trouble for missing a revert and skipping edits which you're unsure. ;) Tom my! 21:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Now it works.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. keep those questions coming! Tom my! 21:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok!  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:21, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Myrtle Beach Pelicans
Some of the information on our page is INCORRECT. The roster is completely false. You may want to check your facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.153.222.115 (talk) 20:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

hi i wrote some true facts on vicky mcclures wiki page and you said im vandalizing?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.26.51 (talk) 20:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Cyber-bullying
Just lettin' you know that I'll be watching cyber-bullying, since you already hit the 3RR mark on that one. If edits are eligible for rolling back (i.e. blatant vandalism), 3RR doesn't apply. — Waterfox ( talk ) 21:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:05, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No, that's wrong. As long as you are reverting vandalism, it is not considered edit warring, and thus you cannot be blocked. Tom my! 21:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's true what you said that it's not considered edit warring because as long as I'm reverting vandalism.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was more talking to Waterfox. :P. Of course, you could have a whole page history of reverting, highly unlikely, but possible, but the user would not get blocked. Tom my! 21:42, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's true what you're saying, Tommy.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:44, 30 September 2010 (UTC)