User talk:Wbbigtymer

New Orleans rap/hip hop
Well, New Orleans hip hop is the de facto standard title. There's a new WikiProject Hip hop, so you really ought to bring it up there. I'll abide by whatever the consensus is -- it's really something neither you nor I should be deciding on alone. Tuf-Kat 01:45, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

NOLA elections
Since you specifically asked on my talk page, I'm planning to go for Mitch Landrieu for mayor. the Louisiana Weekly editorial endorsement hits some of the key points saying it better than I could. (Though I disagree with them about District A councilman Jay Batt, whom I have a very low opinion of.) Cheers, -- Infrogmation 01:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Kalamu Ya Salaam
The article could be expanded with a bit more info. Also, Kalamu grew up in the 9th but moved to Algiers in the early 90's and that may be worth adding. I'm old friends with Kalamu and Tayari Kwa Salaam and used to march with them, there's a lot of good press available on him that should probably be added, particularly his post-Katrina involvement in city activities.


 * Thanks. I personally only first read about him in an article in The New Yorker shortly after Katrina. Around that time I added him to the list of notable people who lived in the 9th Ward at one time or another, and only very recently made a stub article for him. You're definitely in a good position to expand the article, and I'll help wherever possible.Wbbigtymer 03:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Glasgow (band)
Basically, this band has put out two CDs and plays numerous sell-out shows in and around New Orleans. They've played almost every significant venue with some regularity and have done some touring and promotions, as well. There are several articles about them to be found online, many of them ful of critical praise, and by all accounts, their popularity is growing rapidly. Wbbigtymer 03:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, popularity does not beget notability. However, it would probably be best if you first created this article in your user subspace to a version that asserts its notability, and then move it over into the article space. Ryūlóng 03:53, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject New Orleans
Hello, I noticed you edited a New Orleans related article. If you wish you can join the new WikiProject New Orleans. — Staroftheshow86 03:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

America's "most unique city"
I deleted your false belief that New Orleans is often referred to as the "most unique city" in America because this is absolutely not true. What you are thinking about is the fact that New Orleans is often referred to as "America's most interesting city." Do a google search for "America's most interesting city" and you will find pages and pages that attribute this nickname to New Orleans. I remember at one point (if not still today), New Orleans put a sign on I-10 east-bound, just as you were entering into Orleans Parish, that read: "Welcome to New Orleans, America's Most Interesting City." As for your incorrect view that New Orleans is often referred to as the "most unique city" in America, do a google search on "most unique city," and you will find nothing that supports this claim. Your "references," as I pointed out, are worthless:

1) Your first "reference" is that the Mayor once referred to New Orleans as America's "most unique city." So what? Just because the Mayor calls New Orleans something does not mean that it is a nickname that New Orleans is often known by. For example, what about when the Mayor called New Orleans a "Chocolate City," would that be a valid reference to support a claim that New Orleans is often referred to as the "Chocolate City?"

2) Your second "reference" is a Googlism page that is absolute garbage and means nothing. I can't believe you don't understand that.

3) Your third "reference" doesn't even point to a working webpage.

4) Your fourth "reference" refers to a reply post by some random internet user who calls New Orleans "the most unique city in America." Once again, this is not a valid reference. What if I post something online saying that New Orleans is "America's garbage dump." Does this make it a valid reference to support the claim that New Orleans is often referred to as the "America's garbage dump?"

I am shocked at how much you misunderstand the concepts of valid references and how poor your research skills are. Please go educate yourself on these topics before posting anymore Wikipedia articles on major subjects such as the city of New Orleans.

I'm sorry if I am being so harsh but I'm getting really upset with all these people who don't understand how bad they are bringing down the quality of Wikipedia. Wikiwopbop 19:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply above, re-posted
For someone who presumes to lecture others about the intricacies of wikipedia's editing policy, I would think you'd hold yourself to those standards at least while doing so. I don't care that you violated wikipedia's policy, I just want to take you down a couple notches from your current pulpit.

Perhaps unlike you, I don’t edit wikipedia based on my personal beliefs. As for me confusing “America's Most Interesting City” with “The most unique city in America,” thanks for trying to tell me what I’m thinking of, but I’ll do the thinking for myself, because that’s not what I was thinking of, and besides, the two aren’t exactly mutually exclusive. I don’t even see how you could have brought that up, since a) I wasn’t talking about a potential nickname for the city; you need to do a better job distinguishing nicknames and common descriptive phrases and b) None of my sources used that phrase. Speaking of sources, I don’t see a single one in the article for “America’s Most interesting City” as a nickname. My talk page isn’t the place to include anecdotal and unverifiable sources for your whimsical edits.

Now if you'd been doing your job as an "editor" on here, you wouldn't have just hastily deleted my post and dismissed my sources--which admittedly, were lacking--and you'd have taken 5 minutes to look for better ones before making the call.

Let's look at the issue fairly. Here's the original sentence, which you claim is MY view, and an incorrect one.

"It is often called the most unique city in America."

That's it. Nothing more and nothing less. So did I make it up? Before I prove that the statement is undeniably true, I need to address the quality of the sources first. Many of these sources have some clear potential for bias. This is going to be the case with any pontification. You can't really find many examples of a claim to be the "most" of something this subjective that use sources without some potential for bias. So having said that, there really are enough neutral sources to substantiate the claim, and more than enough sources in general to verify the "often" part of the claim. As for your comment about using Nagin’s quote as a source and comp airing this to his “Chocolate City” quote, this isn’t an isolated usage, as you’ll soon learn. If you took each and every usage of any description about anything and likened it to the example you gave, then of course it wouldn’t be sufficient by itself. If there were many, many independent references to New Orleans being referred to as “Chocolate City”, then why wouldn’t Nagin’s quote support the claim? That was a ridiculous and invalid comparison, because the fact that Nagin used “most unique city” isn’t the reason it’s widely spoken, but rather is because it's widely spoken.

Here goes:

http://www.forusa.org/fellowship/nov-dec_05/billings.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/katrina1year/yourviews/index.html (uh oh, it's a post...better dismiss it immediately, because you can't verify how widely people use a particular expression by including things that people from all over the country have posted at different times.)

http://www.gmc.edu/library/neworleans/NOhistory.htm This reference is found at the Institute for New Orleans History and Culture at Gwynedd-Mercy College, but I'm sure you know more than them.

http://hurricaneonthebayou.com/html/behind.htm Yet another easily dismissed article...

http://www.chinmusicpress.com/books/doyouknow/voices/archives/2006/08/82905_the_loss_of_an_american_city_1.html Another article...this one just says "one of the most unique...", so it obviously isn't relevant.

http://www.bringneworleansback.org/ Yea, this is sponsored by New Orleans' city government, so immediately trash it. They shouldn't be included in discussions about frequent references to the city, because that's not the kind of thing they're into.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13865422/ One of my personal favorites: Spike Lee directly uses the phrase to emphasize that not even his native New York can claim the superlative title.

http://www.bloodymarystours.com/neworleanshistory.html This one is a tour guide, so of course you can't use it. After all, it's understood that statements that cities are "often referred to as..." excludes instances where the reference was made by people who describe cities for a living.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/cities/usa/new-orleans/ I'll stop there. I could keep going, but you get the point.

I’m shocked at how little you understand the concept of editing on wikipedia. Without doing any research at all, you conclude that previous editors are guilty of faulty research and spend more time berating them than it would have taken to simply take a stab at it on your own.

Speaking of bringing down the quality of wikipedia, people like you are the reason that you can’t use reply posts by normal internet users as reliable sources. [Of course, if you wanted to verify the second part of that statement, you’d have to consult reply posts by normal internet users—funny thing.]

Please go educate yourself on these topics before posting anymore Wikipedia articles on major subjects such as the city of New Orleans.Wbbigtymer 00:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

My Apology
I'm sorry for trying to make you feel like an absolute moron. I was pissed at how terrible the New Orleans page is becoming and I took it out on you. I was being a complete dick when I wrote you a rude, judgmental message that was primary designed to belittle you. I'll write you a more respectful response soon. Wikiwopbop 23:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It takes a special person (and an even more special internet user) to do what you just did, and I am humbled by it. I could easily have responded a lot better than I did, and I do sympathize with your reasons for being frustrated.Wbbigtymer 23:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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"The dirty dirty" listed at Redirects for discussion
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