User talk:Wctaiwan/Archive 5

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I love you.
But seriously, I forgot what I came to say. -— Isarra ༆ 10:17, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * There was an orange bar. And then there were none. wctaiwan (talk) 10:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Really? There's still an orange bar here? -— Isarra ༆ 10:23, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Reviewer
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 * Thanks! wctaiwan (talk) 04:19, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Translation
I see you have your name listed as one as one who is willing to translate Chinese to English. I am wondering if you are willing to help me with the translation of this: "鬼神明明，自思自量" which I put here in the page for Zhang Xianzhong. The English translation I see in a book is: "The gods are not without intelligence, examine yourselves and repent!" which I feel is not accurate enough. I tried my own translation but I don't think it sounds good either. If you can help, or give suggestions as to how to approach it, it would be much appreciated. Hzh (talk) 22:32, 11 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I think the translation you quote is more or less accurate. If my interpretation is correct, the gist is that spirits and gods "know" (they're watching? they're omniscient?), and people should examine their thoughts / deeds / conscience (repenting doesn't seem to be explicitly stated). I'm not sure how I can word it better, but in my opinion, any reasonable translation accompanied by the original text in parentheses should be fine. wctaiwan (talk) 03:16, 12 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I thought "repent" wasn't stated and wasn't sure if 自量 can mean repent, also hard to think of a way of translating 鬼神明明 that sounds good (明明 seems to mean "knowing" rather than the "all-knowing" as meant by omniscient). Thanks for your input, it's always helpful to have an alternate opinion and it's much appreciated. Hzh (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome. wctaiwan (talk) 12:04, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Your request for rollback
Hi Wctaiwan. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Killiondude (talk) 18:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback should never be used to edit war.
 * If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
 * Use common sense.

PS - You didn't request it but you could probably use it. Just posting here to notify you with some useful links. Killiondude (talk) 18:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hm, now what does this link do... wctaiwan (talk) 01:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Good faith?
You were right to revert this but it may have been a misguided good faith edit. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've made [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keith_O%27Brien&diff=569869787&oldid=569864336 a null edit] indicating that in the edit summary. Thanks for the note. wctaiwan (talk) 14:46, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Important request to translate article from eng-chin
Hello there, There is a very important article that is in English but not in Chinese. It's called Barefoot lawyers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_lawyer. They are self-taught people who help protect the rights of citizens in China. This would be a very important article for chinese people to read in their native language not in one there not familiar with. Would you consider helping out to translate the article. I am also asking 8 other translators with near native english and native chinese to help out. So if you all agree you would have 8 helpers. What do you think? Pretty Please..Dounai99 (talk) 00:36, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Dounai99 (talk) 00:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC) (talk) 23:49, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi. I'm afraid I would rather not take part in this, at least for the time being. Sorry. wctaiwan (talk) 14:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I understand and thanks for the candor...Hope you will reconsider though..ThanksDounai99 (talk) 07:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Alternative Latin Investor
I left a little funny message at the deletion log, considering you were the one who created the article, use common sense next time trout. Secret account 04:31, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Heh, it didn't occur to me at the time, and the article's been around long enough that a PROD was probably more appropriate anyway. Thanks for taking care of it. wctaiwan (talk) 04:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request
Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Canvassing. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:35, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Translation help needed

 * Hi, can you help me to translate the Chinese below:

...小米科技CEO雷军今日在腾讯微博诠释了公司名称由来的背后故事，他表示，小米要做移动互联网公司，并且要完成不能完成的任务. “很多人问小米这个名字怎么来的？大家第一时间想到的是小米加步枪. 其实，小米这个问题还有不少故事，首先小米拼音是mi, Mobile Internet，小米要做移动互联网公司；其次是mission impossible，小米要完成不能完成的任务. 最后，“小米”这个名字亲切可爱，你周围有叫小米的人吗？” “‘佛家一粒米 大如须弥山’小米，我们希望去掉高大全，从小处着手. ”雷军特意强调.
 * I need this translation to back up my opinion in article Xiaomi. Thank you --B3430715 (talk) 18:23, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I notice this seems to be part of a content dispute, and I'd rather not get involved. Sorry. wctaiwan (talk) 19:32, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If you'd think so---That's the only reason I made the request on your talk page instead of inviting you to the article. But thanks for making your position clear.--B3430715 (talk) 07:41, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: Fundraising
Hello. About your comment in #wikimedia-fundraising, it will just get lost on IRC, so I'd ask you to post it on m:Talk:Fundraising 2013; I know it sometimes takes a few months for the WMF to answer, but in the end someone will read it. The WMF is not short of funds, it just switched to a model of continuous (ever-growing) fundraising; see also Fundraising, which they recently update. --Nemo 06:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thank you for the note, but I think I'm just going to leave it be. I don't particularly want to monitor a conversation on a wiki I don't visit frequently. In truth, it affects me very little since I'm logged in almost all the time. Maybe other readers who find it disruptive would raise the issue. wctaiwan (talk) 22:49, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Belated thanks
For your note on my Talk page about watchlisting all templates used. I've had to temporarily abandon my grand plan. Maybe I'll get back at it after this crunch. --Lexein (talk) 08:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. Take care. wctaiwan (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Name of Sai Jinhua's last husband
Some sources say that Sai Jinhua's last husband was "Wei Sijiong" but when I did MDBG for the Chinese characters 魏斯炅 that were associated with his image I got "Wei Sigui". What is going on? Did he have multiple names? WhisperToMe (talk) 02:40, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The character 炅 has two possible pronunciations. Judging from an interview (uploaded to YouTube) with a biographer, the correct pronunciation seems to be jiong3 (i.e. your first one). wctaiwan (talk) 03:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you WhisperToMe (talk) 04:29, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

More Chinese questions
Is it okay if you show me the Chinese characters of the following?
 * Hu Baoyu by Wu Jianren
 * Fantianlou conglu ("Anecdotes Collected from the Fantianlou Studio")
 * Zhang, Cixi (editor). Lingfei ji. Tianjin shuju (Tianjin), 1939.
 * The Lingfei may be a reference to Zhao Lingfei (趙靈飛) which was one of Sai Jinhua's names
 * Tong, Xun. "Sai Jinhua". (the name of the work seems to be self-evident but I would like the Chinese characters of the author Tong Xun) -- This work appeared within: Qingdai renwu zhuangao (S: 清代人物传稿, P: Qīng​dài Rén​wù Zhuàngǎo), Ser 2. Liaoning People's Publishing House (S: 辽宁人民出版社, P: Liáo​níng Rén​mín Chū​bǎn​shè) (Shenyang), 1992. Volume 7, p. 339-342.

Also, what kind of work is SJHYS, S.75-77: "Sai Jinhua zhi zuihou zhangfu Wei Fuou" 赛金花之最后丈夫魏阜欧 (!) - Is it a nonfiction book, a novel, or a play? Does it have an ISBN number? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:07, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Hu Baoyu: 胡寶玉 / 胡宝玉
 * Fantianlou Conglu: 梵天廬叢錄 / 梵天庐丛录
 * Lingfei Ji: 靈飛集 / 灵飞集
 * Zhang, Cixi: 張次溪 / 张次溪
 * Tong, Xun: 佟洵 / 佟洵
 * 賽金花之最後丈夫魏阜歐 appears to be a chapter of one of two books: or, but the information is extremely fragmented and all over the place, and I really can't tell if it's from one of these or something else entirely. Both books appear to be non-fiction. The first one might have stemmed from interviews with Sai Jinhua, judging from.
 * As an aside, I notice you seem to be putting in Chinese translations using the format (T: [trad.], S: [simp.], P: [pinyin])--wouldn't it be better to use zh? wctaiwan (talk) 20:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll be happy to use "zh" template. Thank you for the info! WhisperToMe (talk) 15:01, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Is it alright if you help me find: The characters would go in: Niehai Hua
 * 4 items from this: "Li Xiangjun of Taohua shan, or the Chen Yuanyuan of Cangsang yan"
 * Xia Zengyou (newspaper editor from the Qing Dynasty who was co-editor of the Guowen Bao 國問報)

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 03:44, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Li Xinagjun: 李香君
 * Taohua Shan: 桃花扇 (The Peach Blossom Fan)
 * Chen Yuanyuan: 陳圓圓 / 陈圆圆
 * Cangsang Yan: 滄桑豔 / 沧桑艳
 * Xia Zengyou: 夏曾佑
 * By the way, the Chinese name of Gwowen Bao appears to be 國聞報. I've fixed it over at The Chinese Novel at the Turn of the Century. wctaiwan (talk) 04:30, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! WhisperToMe (talk) 09:10, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

If you are interested in doing more: Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 10:34, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The Place of Eternal Youth (Ch'ang-sheng tian/ Changsheng Tian) by Hung Shen (Hong Shen) (published in English by Foreign Languages Press (Beijing) in 1955)
 * Lute Song (P'i-p'a chi / Pipa ji) - Translated by A. P. L. Bazin into French in 1841, as of 1976 no complete English translation exists


 * Changsheng Tian is 長生殿 / 长生殿 (The Palace of Eternal Life)
 * Hung Shen is 洪昇 (Are you sure it's not Hung (Hong) Sheng?)
 * Lute Song is 琵琶記 / 琵琶记
 * Hope that helps. wctaiwan (talk) 20:31, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! "Hung Shen" is probably a misspelling in the original source WhisperToMe (talk) 05:04, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Do you know: Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 22:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * He hanshan ("The Confronted undershirt"), titled in French: Ho-Han-Chan ou La Tunique Confrontée
 * The piece is 合汗衫, a Zaju by 張國賓. Confrontée here doesn't really mean "confronted", more "brought together" or "compared" (looking at http://www.wordreference.com/fren/confront%C3%A9), as the 合 in the original title refers to to the family in the play being reunited by piecing together two halves of a cut undershirt. Someone I was talking to online suggested "The Reunited Undershirt", which I think is a fair translation. wctaiwan (talk) 19:47, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * This essay cites the title being translated as "Joining the Shirt" (note 23). Using an established translation might be preferable to inventing our own. wctaiwan (talk) 20:38, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for finding the essay! The translation "The Confronted Undershirt" came from p. 40 of a book by Min Tian ("[...]He hanshan (The Confronted Undershirt),[...]") but I'll be happy to use a translation that's clearly based off of that of the Chinese. It seems like the author found a false friend cognate and thought it was a real cognate WhisperToMe (talk) 04:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

On page 100 of http://nthur.lib.nthu.edu.tw/retrieve/73391/JA01_1969_p92.pdf what is the Chinese title? (I want to add the title to Antoine Bazin so the source's English and Chinese titles are seen). Also, what is Mengxi bitan? (mentioned in the title of one of the essays in De l'un au multiple: Traductions du chinois vers les langues européenes) Thanks! WhisperToMe (talk) 05:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The Chinese title is "論元人劇本中特出的平民性", though it should be noted that the Chinese text is not a direct translation of the English (it might be an abstract for the English essay, but I'm not sure about that either). Mengxi Bitan is 夢溪筆談 / The Dream Pool Essays. wctaiwan (talk) 17:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the info! WhisperToMe (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

About the Liu Wu-chi article you might be interested in this discussion about whether the citation should include the author's Chinese name: Help_desk WhisperToMe (talk) 08:35, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

On academics
Thank you so much for writing the stub on Wu-chi Liu (I didn't realize he used this order of his name). Anyway, do you know where I may find biographical secondary source info on Daiwie Fu (Fu Dawei)? He's a Taiwanese academic who wrote one of the essays in the De l'une au multiple book. I found primary sources for him which I posted here: Talk:De_l'un_au_multiple:_Traductions_du_chinois_vers_les_langues_européenes. But I want to know if any secondary sources have reported on him. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:10, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I just started Daiwie Fu after learning that he's the editor in chief of an academic journal WhisperToMe (talk) 09:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, I did a bit of Googling just now, but I'm afraid I couldn't much, if anything, in reliable sources (even in Chinese). People report on what he's said, but I don't see biographies or the like (and he's very much alive, so no cheating with obituaries like I did with Wu-chi Liu :P). I'm not sure if Wu-chi Liu ever used the first-last order himself, but it's what the sources I cited used, so I just went with it. wctaiwan (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * For Wu-chi Liu AFAIK it's fine to use how sources described him. :) Thanks anyway for trying the search WhisperToMe (talk) 22:24, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

At WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request I posted a request so I can write an article about the book Wu-chi Liu edited. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:09, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I started the article about this book. It seems like it was really popular back in the day. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice! wctaiwan (talk) 17:03, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Checking Chinese name
Hi! Do you mind you take a look at the Beth Upton book review of Sunflower Splendor? I want you to see if her Chinese name is 秦婦吟 (stated on page 2) (mentioned here: WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request)

Also, what are the Chinese characters here? http://www.amazon.com/Kuei-Yeh-Chi-Chinese-Edition/dp/0253331781/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388051507&sr=8-1&keywords=K%27uei+Yeh+Chi (the first character seems to be 葵)

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 09:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see why 秦婦吟 is inserted at the bottom of the article, so it's possible that it's indeed the name she chose for herself--but I wouldn't assume, since it's best known as the title of a poem. (I don't think Chinese names should be mentioned unless they would be useful for reader research because using the Chinese name might yield more information, which isn't the case here.) The characters are 葵曄集. wctaiwan (talk) 17:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of putting the Chinese name in the article talk page as an additional note, so that if someone wants to start a Chinese language article on the book, they could refer to the authors by their Chinese names. It is interesting that it's a poem, but I'm not sure why the Chinese name of the poem would be printed at the end of the review if it wasn't the Chinese name that Beth Upton had chosen for herself or that her Chinese associate had chosen for her. Anyway, thanks for the characters! WhisperToMe (talk) 22:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I went over the review more carefully and I'm now certain it's not her name: The characters were provided as a reference for this portion of the review: "...does Ch'in fu yina really mean "The Lament of the Lady of Ch'in," or was the familiar English title kept for identification purposes?" (second page, toward the bottom of the first column) This also explains the "a." next to the characters. wctaiwan (talk) 00:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. It seems strange for it to be handwritten instead of typed but maybe that was more common in papers in the 1970s. Thanks for the insight! WhisperToMe (talk) 00:53, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm guessing it was a technical limitation. While typeset Chinese books have existed for a while, it certainly wasn't as easy in the 70's as it is today, when you can type Chinese characters on just about any computer. wctaiwan (talk) 01:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I see. I started a Chinese stub on the book, using the Chinese edition's title: zh:葵曄集: 歷代詩詞曲選集 WhisperToMe (talk) 02:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Irving Yucheng Lo
Do you know of any sources about Irving Yucheng Lo? I found his Chinese name is 羅郁正 from Google Books. What is the tone of "zheng" in the name? WhisperToMe (talk) 01:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't find any pronunciation, but Zheng4 is much more likely than Zheng1, which I've never seen outside of "正月" for the first month in the lunar calendar. wctaiwan (talk) 01:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm adding his pinyin WhisperToMe (talk) 02:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)