User talk:Web kai2000/January - April 2007

Timtable links
The timetable links don't always seem to work.. e.g. --IsarSteve 01:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * London Buses route 5
 * London Buses route 10
 * Thanks for letting me know. A few of them have different names --sonicKAI 01:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The London Buses route 5 timetable link is still a bit wobbly :o) --IsarSteve 22:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Striked out London Bus routes
Why are some of the routes striked out? Arriva436 17:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This is my list of articles that need to either be created or updated. Once i've done it, I strike it off my list. If you want to see all buses that run in London, see List of bus routes in London.--sonicKAI 13:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me what they were. Arriva436 16:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Infobox London Bus
''Do you think the PVR would be needed in the template? --sonicKAI 22:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)''
 * Hi. What is that a measure of? If it is the number of vehicles required for the timetabled service, I think it should go in. It gives a handy statistical way to show the importance/frequency. MRSC • Talk 23:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It is the buses required for service. PVR stands for Peak Vehicle Requirement. I'll add it right away. --sonicKAI 23:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Image tagging for Image:Blunder logo.jpg
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London Buses route 118
Hi, here is a copy of a message that I sent to:-

User:Murraypaul66

Hi! I've added the first day of operation to the 118.

''I hope you don't mind me mentioning this and I mean it constructively. I think you'll have to come up with another way of logging the vehicle allocations. Most "lay people" won't understand AL's, AK's, TB's, J's, GM's etc., etc., If you don't,  I think you'll end up with an AFD landed on your hard work.. I'm quite willing to help out.. so let me know. I'm still trying to get the 130 finished, but it doesn't "inspire me" --IsarSteve 20:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC) ''

Have you seen the article? I just am bit concerned that with so many garage codes in the article, it will cause someone to put an AFD on it.. What do you think? cheers --IsarSteve 20:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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Image template evidence?
Hi, Web Kai. Could you please provide some evidence to back up this change? Without such evidence, the template will have to be deleted. Regards, RyanGerbil10 (Упражнение В!) 21:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Image copyrights
We have been contacted by the rights owner of a number of images you uploaded. He is, to put it mildly, not happy. Please do not upload more pictures unless you yourself are the rights owner (i.e. do not upload images you find on the web, only those you take yourself). Guy (Help!) 13:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Which one was it was it? I get permission from everybody beforehand.--sonicKAI 01:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing from the pictures that have been removed, it was Adam Murray who wasn't happy. I have written permission to use pictures from his site. He even uploaded some of them here himself.--sonicKAI 01:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think all these images, including those uploaded by him, are gone, he has withdrawn whatever permission he may have given. Guy (Help!) 07:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

London Bus articles
These are the things that I want you to do:


 * Can you not delete the bus routes that i have just created, it is very insulting because I am London bus enthusiast and I know my bus routes pretty well.


 * Instead of deleting my bus routes that i have just created, why don't you tell me were i've gone wrong and tell me how to make them better.CourtneyBonnick 21:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

''I don't doubt how well you know your bus routes, and I didn't mean to offend you, but articles on London buses have been nominated for deletion more times than I can count. Here are a few examples:''  If you need any more help, you know how to find me --sonicKAI 01:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I'm sorry if you were insulted. I know what it's like, but your articles would have been deleted sooner or later
 * 2) Here's where you went wrong. You need to use the London Bus route infobox to display cartain information like PVR and management. Currently London Buses route 79 is a perfect example of what should be in the infobox.

Thank you. How do i creat a London bus route Infobox and add pictures.CourtneyBonnick 20:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've got everything set up at User:web_kai2000/London Buses route layout. Just copy and paste. 

''Another thing, you may want to create you newest London Bus article as a userpage. To do that just put User:CourtneyBonnick/ in front of the page title. For example: User:CourtneyBonnick/London Buses route '' --sonicKAI 15:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

London Bus articles
I have just created London bus route 606 and their is this grey thing on it, how do i get rid of it?CourtneyBonnick 18:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC) ''The article was tagged as being non-notable a few minutes after you created it. I'll sort it out for you. --sonicKAI 21:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)''

WPLT quality and importance categories
Hi. I noticed the change you made to the WPLT banner today for an importance category name. Let me know when you've got all of the quality and importance categories renamed and I can update TrainsWikiProject to point to the new names as well. AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 22:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Images
Hi. We have received a complaint from the copyright holder of an image uploaded by you, Image:099 TA303.jpg. I have deleted it. Please note that http://www.busesatwork.co.uk cannot release under a free license those photographs it does not own the copyright to. Please identify and tag for deletion any other unfreely licensed media you have uploaded from this website. Jkelly 23:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I note that there are more than 500 of them. Jkelly 00:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip, I had noticed that something was up, but fortunately I haven't uploaded any of their images--IsarSteve 16:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Image Licencing
We need a copy of the email releasing this material under a free license sent to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org, or it will all need to be deleted. I note that this has been an issue with your uploads in the past as well, and encourage you again to not upload any more media that you did not create yourself. Jkelly 22:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I sent it all off, and got this reply:

Images and other media are allowed if they are under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), a similar license (such as certain Creative Commons licenses) or the copyright holder has released all rights. You can see the allowable licenses at

If you provide us with a clear statement from the copyright holder that they are releasing this content for redistribution under an allowable license, then the content may be used on Wikimedia projects. Please note that the license or release of all rights must be specified and the release must come from an email address we can recognize as affiliated with the source of the pictures.

Thank you for your understanding! Please see Copyrights for more information.

Yours sincerely, Michelle Kinney


 * There shouldn't be any more problems with these pictures. --sonicKAI 00:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The email that you pasted on my user talk page is from us, saying that we need a clear release. Did you then follow up?  Jkelly 00:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'm completely confused. John King (of www.transporthistory.co.uk) talks about releasing his pictures in a Creative Commons license way, as does Ian Armstrong (of www.busesatwork.co.uk). As far as I know, that would allow the pictures to stay under something like Cc-by-sa-2.5. I'm not even sure anymore. --sonicKAI 00:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I am looking at http://www.transporthistory.co.uk/ and there is nothing about Creative Commons on that page, nor do the words Creative Commons appear at http://www.busesatwork.co.uk/ -- where did you get the idea that they were licensed under such a license? Jkelly 16:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The e-mails I received from them say that their pictures could be used as long as they were attributed to them, which is the basis of the Attribution ShareAlike License v. 2.5. --sonicKAI 21:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that you just made up a license for the images? CC-BY-SA allows commercial use, unlimited modification of the work, and insists that any derivative works be released under the same license.  Do you have an email that specifies such things, or were they granting permission to Wikipedia only to republish with credit?  I'm looking at the email you sent to us, and the words "Creative Commons" don't appear anywhere in the email, nor does any mention of commercial use, modification, or derivative licensing.  We also have no contact information for the people giving the release, another problem.  Jkelly 21:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that they were just granting permission to Wikipedia to republish with credit, but here is their e-mail addresses. John King (of www.transporthistory.co.uk) is [mailto:JKing77189@aol.com JKing77189@aol.com], and Ian Armstrong (of www.busesatwork.co.uk) is [mailto:ian.armstrong43@ntlworld.com ian.armstrong43@ntlworld.com].--sonicKAI 22:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If it is the case that they are offering Wikipedia only a license to republish with credit, the images would still need to be deleted, because we do not accept that, but I would feel less of a sense of urgency about it. Can you please, please send the email that you have stating such a release to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org so that I can try to figure out what has gone wrong here?  Jkelly 22:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:099 TA303.jpg
Do not upload any more images until this is worked out. If you continue to upload these images, I will block this account. Jkelly 22:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Notable bus articles
A lot of bus articles have been made recently that are not notable to be worth keeping. So I made this page to tell people if a route should have an article or not. Feel free to edit it or tell what you think. Unisouth 18:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The 114
What do I save the 114 page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CourtneyBonnick (talk • contribs) 08:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC).

Buses WikiProject
I notice that you have edited lists of bus routes recently. You might be interested in helping with the new WikiProject buses, especially the proposed Bus route list guide. We are also working out when a bus route should have its own article and other issues. --NE2 15:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)