User talk:Weddingdaysparklers

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Weddingdaysparklers, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service, and which is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages: user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you can indicate why the page is not blatant advertising, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion  tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to your user talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also edit this page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would help make it encyclopedic. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Tckma (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... I am a professional content writer looking to gain ties within the wikipedia community, and giving a link to examples of my work should be considered valuable. If I can't demonstrate my work to potential associates, you should eliminate the ability to add external links all together. This is the definition of a helpful and relevant link on a user page. --Weddingdaysparklers (talk) 18:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

March 2013
Your userpage was what we call advertising or spam for short. No advertising is allowed on Wikipedia. External links are allowed so long as they are to informative material and are not added just for promotional value. Articles have to show notability, and I feel very doubtful that a company selling wedding day sparklers would achieve the notability we require. As to gaining ties within the Wikipedia community, I would doubt that that would get you far. There is no paid contributing here - we are all volunteers (including those of us that are writers outside). There are a small number of paid employees of the Foundation, but they edit as volunteers when not actually performing their paid functions, which are mostly technical or legal. We need to see no samples of your work if you are going to become a volunteer editor - if you read WP:SPAM, WP:NPOV, WP:COPYVIO (just in case), and WP:RS, you shouldn't go far wrong. If you do, someone will very quickly tell you. It's a learning on the job place, this. Please ask questions - this page is still open to you for editing. You may request an unblock for a name change, but there will very likely be a restriction on the links you can add, and adding anything looking like advertising would undoubtedly lead to a reblock very quickly. Peridon (talk) 19:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended for publicity and/or promotional purposes. If you intend to edit constructively in other topic areas, you may be granted the right to continue under a change of username. Please read the following carefully.

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, website or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements, and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but such groups are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.
 * Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Probably not, although if you can demonstrate a pattern of future editing in strict accordance with our neutral point of view policy, you may be granted this right. See Wikipedia's FAQ for Organizations for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, organization, or clients. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit again.
 * Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?


 * What can I do now?

If you have no interest in writing about some other topic than your organization, group, company, or product, you will probably not be allowed to edit Wikipedia again. Consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead. If you do intend to make useful contributions about some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:


 * Add the text on your user talk page.
 * Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
 * Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text below, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Peridon (talk) 18:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast response, but I think that point of view is misguided. I was just trying to get started and now I'm completely blocked. If you want volunteers, maybe you should let them know exactly why they would be blocked and give them a fair chance to comply before kicking them off entirely. I find this rude, and as you said, my volunteering time can be better used somewhere I'm not treated like just another number. I understand that there's terms and conditions, but people make mistakes. I was in no way attempting to advertise anything. A link to a site that gives backstory is credible in my eyes, but if it's not, just TELL me and I'd remove it myself. I tried to explain how it wasn't, and instead of getting an honest response I got blacklisted. Have fun finding people to volunteer with this type of poor communication tactic.
 * The beige box above does tell you why you're blocked. Your username appears to represent an organisation WP:USERNAME and you appeared to be advertising that organisation WP:SPAM. Your oppose to deletion suggested to me one or more of the following: trying to get paid work here; trying to recruit writers (that comes under promotion); trying to get advertising onto Wikipedia. You got more of a reply from me than most people blocked this way get. Yes, we do want volunteers. However, when they commence by using the name of an organisation and post what I can only describe as an advert, what are we to think? Please bear in mind that we get floods of advertising attempts. I've been working in the deletion side of things since 2008. First as a patroller, and for nearly two years now as an admin. In that time, I've come across one person who started as you did who went on to be a regular editor. The vast majority are trying to advertise their own business, or are being paid to advertise someone's business. After posting something that a PR dept would be proud of, using the company name, many claim to be merely users of a product. I'm not being rude. Just a bit cynical... I was rude to one person - pointed out to him that his 'article' was so full of buzz words that I couldn't make out what the company actually did. Now, if you want to appeal the block, use the template in the box above. If you want another opinion, put at the bottom of this page with a question. Someone will be along fairly quickly. Might be an admin, might be an ordinary editor. Only people who know where things are will answer = you won't get a five edit newcomer. (Sod's Law might come in...) Peridon (talk) 20:36, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * BTW so far as I know, you haven't been blacklisted, and your site probably hasn't. Blacklisting here means that a bot prevents the addition of certain sites to articles. Only happens to repeatedly added things. Peridon (talk) 20:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

My response indicated that I wanted to gain ties with community volunteers to make the content on Wikipedia better. I have no interest in getting more work, I'm already a well paid professional. I also have no use for hiring other writers. I just wanted to give back to the wiki community. My point was that you blocked me THEN told me why instead of the other way around. Just plain rude. You can say whatever you want, but this is poor treatment for someone offering their time freely. I suggest in the future that you let someone know that they are in jeopardy of being blocked and give them a chance to remedy it. I would gladly have removed the link and changed my username if I had the chance BEFORE being blocked. That's my point. I don't need to here the same thing repeated over and over. You policies for communication and procedures are just flat wrong.
 * To me, it indicated what I have already said. We get a lot of people attempting to post adverts. I found one the other day who was even asking how to make a small advert! I've never seen anyone trying to get to look at samples of their work. People just come in and edit. Deleting advertising is standard practice, as is blocking accounts that fail our username policy. It may seem odd that vandals get warned first, but often what is seen as vandalism may just be mistaken in intent. (Often it IS vandalism, and blocking quickly follows...) Advertising is seldom (but not 'never') mistaken. PR departments and brand enhancers do often seem incapable of writing in the plain English that we want. (I sat for half an hour on a train once behind two marketing people, and in that half hour of talk the only meaningful thing they came up with was where to go for lunch... Not kidding.) Anyway, if you do want to be unblocked for a name change, please use the 'spam-un' template and suggest a new name. If you think I shouldn't have blocked this name, use the plain 'unblock' one. And if you want just a second opinion, use the helpme - or use as ordinary editors won't be able to see what I deleted. Admins can. Peridon (talk) 09:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)