User talk:Weebiloobil/Archive 1

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Ohter Episodes
...and those should be fixed up as well. It's a work in progress these lists, so things can be confusion of what to put in or not to put in. (And this isn't a warning or anything, just fyi.) Anyways, cheers and happy editing. :) -WarthogDemon 20:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, never edited a pokemon article before - Weebiloobil 20:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

hEY jACK STOP BEING A RETARD. WOOOOOOOOOOH —Preceding unsigned comment added by J - Bear E.X.P (talk • contribs) 13:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Wow, thank you very much, Michael. To be honest, I didn't expect to receive a barnstar in this time; I moved to BC, Canada very recently and haven't been able to edit Wikipedia as often as I used to do. Anyway, thanks again for your kind thought. :) — An as  talk?18:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the barnstar! My very first.... Magidin 18:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much! I didn't expect that. Thanks again! Wolf of Fenric (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much! I also didn't expect that. Hope I can contribute something worthwhile! User:Vermiscohedlion (talk) Sun 08:37 Mar 08 (UTC)

NPOV
Thanks for the elaboration on talk page but why recoverd the word Alleged while instances are presented (see the China Daily link)?

Do we need to insert this word for all news source entries? Care to further elaborate? 219.79.27.59 (talk)

Doctor Who Award

 * Squee! - Weebiloobil (talk) 07:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You deserve it, your work helped get this done. There were only four of us doing it out of how many "members" of the whole project? -LA @ 07:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your questions:
 * 1) There are still bugs in the system which will need to be further discussed, so we should leave to do 4 on the list.
 * 2) If you are up to it, go ahead and start searching for the redirects, disambiguation pages, and images. You could also check to make sure that all Stub-class articles have at the very bottom of their articles.
 * 3) I am currently thinking about how to get articles reassessed after they have been edited. I will have a proposal soon.
 * 4) Thank you so very much for the barn star! - LA @ 08:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Award
Thanks for the barnstar. I was touched. : - ) --MZMcBride (talk) 20:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

GA at Talk:Jenny_%28Doctor_Who%29
Just so you know. I added some refs at the first two sections, like you said. StewieGriffin!  • Talk SignListen 16:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Introduction of 'C' class articles
Hi. This is a cross-post to members of the Doctor Who assessment committee. Because of the introduction of the 'C' class, thegeneral criteria for assessment has been changed. Please familiarise yourself with the new criteria and help migrate several Start- and B-Class articles into the C-Class category. Thank you! Sceptre (talk) 22:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Assessment
Hey, I created the shortcut WP:DW/AQS to directly link to the quality scale section of the assessment-article of WP:DW, maybe you can use it in the edit summaries as well (instead of WP:DW/A) when re-assessing articles. --SoWhy Talk 10:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, thanks! - Weebiloobil (talk) 07:28, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Dark Angel and Juggernaut reviews
Hi, I am unsure of your status on Wikipedia, as you have not edited since beginning these GA reviews. Since five days have gone by, I removed the tags from the articles in the hope of finding a reviewer. If they are still unreviewed when you return, it would be great if you could review them. If someone else gets them before then, I still appreciate your willingness. It's hard to find reviewers for professional wrestling articles, so thank you for offering. I hope I haven't offended you by removing the tags, as I haven't done so to be critical or insulting. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, I rewrote much of the lead for the Juggernaut article. Can you look at it when you have a chance and let me know if it works?GaryColemanFan (talk) 18:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You make a good point about that sentence. I have rewritten the beginning of the second paragraph. GaryColemanFan(talk) 19:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Rose
All the fictional persons with the name should go to rose (name) like all the real people to. --Stone (talk) 08:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The Last Sontaran
By all means, feel free to GA-review the article. As the nominator, it's not really my call as to who reviews it anyway, but thanks for letting me know you're looking into it. Wolf of Fenric (talk) 23:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Account Creation
Hey, it is me who wishes to create an account (although how can you tell anyone is who they say they are on the internet?). Thanks for doing this - weebiloobil (talk) 19:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for applying to access the account creation tool. I have approved your request. You may now access the toolhere. Before you do so, please read the tool's guide to familiarize yourself with the process. You may also want to join #wikipedia-en-accounts on irc and themailing list. Keep in mind that the ACC tool is a powerful program, and misuse may result in your access being suspended by a tool administrator. Don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions. Thank you for participating in the account creation process. — Possum (talk) 21:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Cultural depictions of dinosaurs
Hello, Weebiloobil;

I've liked colored text on my talk page since someone accidentally posted with an incomplete fancy signature and turned things red. I just freshen up the shade from time to time. Now, onto the article. I'll be picking at it over the next couple of days. We've actually had an edit war on a related article, Stegosaurus in popular culture, make it onto WP:LAME. J. Spencer (talk) 22:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

On a side note, there are a few comments on the GAN page. Nergaal (talk) 03:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * bump! Nergaal (talk) 01:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not a lead writer, so I tore down the old one and wrote in a new one that sticks more to the article. What do you think? J. Spencer (talk) 03:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the review and the modified lead! J. Spencer (talk) 22:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

an invitation
- -The Spooky One (talk to me) 06:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Maddy Young
Hi, many thanks for your review of the Maddy Young article (and of course Sam Strachan too). I think I've just about sorted out all the issues & have left my response on the review page. Thanks again! Frickative 21:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
My mistake, Google did not correct my spelling therefore I assumed that there was not already and article. thanks again 16:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Here I am, thanks and yes, I warmly welcome your kind offer. So, let's go for it! Galoubet (talk) 06:51, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

5 Pillars
In an effort to reply to your question, I went "digging" in its talk page and in my opinion, the Proposed change in the first pillardiscussion looks quite interesting. The Notability (fiction or an alternative Notability (...) seems to be a reasonable solution to this issue. Though, who am I to question the work of so many contributors/editors and especially the many busy bees working behind the scenes. Galoubet (talk) 06:44, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Was not aware of the fact that I had to pass exams ! :-) Galoubet (talk) 08:37, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, maybe you should put the question differently: ...Is there anything you don't want to have any experience in to do with Wikipedia. And no, I'dd like to stroll around and encounter lots of challenges, of which most I will not be able to find a solution for, but ... I'll keep trying, I'll keep trying. Galoubet (talk) 15:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Queer as Folk
The expression existed before either the british or american dramas and it means the same as "People are Funny", the original is "There's nothing so queer as folk". And please do NOT respond further, I don't contend with other editors unless they mess with my user space as you did. 72.228.150.44 (talk) 23:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

alphabetising External Links
Cause in my opinion it looks better. Compare any alphabethised list to a none alphabethised one. The problem with Wikipedia of course is that editors add extra information about the information gathered on the relevant website, which consequently makes it difficult to find a correct (and hopefully for everyone acceptable) way to alphabetise the external links. Galoubet (talk) 07:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Lycurgus
I think this user might have a bad day (like we all have, now and then) ... Galoubet (talk) 14:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Steven Moffat GA
Many thanks for your review, and for your additional comments. Appreciated. TheJPS talk to me 17:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Personal attacks.
Please do not falsely accuse me of writing abusive comments about you which are clearly untrue, no derogatory language, or indeed insinuations have been used against the user weebiloobil, and i would like this user to refrain from making false accusations, before i seek professional advice and take this further —Preceding unsigned comment added by J - Bear E.X.P (talk • contribs) 20:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Userbox for GA reviews
The userbox User Good Articles reviewed has been updated so that it can now link to a page in your user subspace where you keep track of all your GA reviews, if you have such a page. This can be done by adding a | and then the name of your user subpage (or subsection of your regular user page) wherever you have the template called. For example, on my user page I am using ""which displays as There is more information on how to do this at Template:User Good Articles reviewed.

Note: If you are not interested in doing this, you don't have to do anything; the template will still work for you exactly as it does now.

Best, r ʨ ana ɢ  talk/contribs 17:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Play-Doh
Thank you for taking on Play-Doh! I'd like to see some Toy articles reach GA. I read you play piano, so do I. Classical piano. Please keep in touch and I'm looking forward to your review! ItsLassieTime (talk) 20:05, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! I've footnoted the lead as recommended and I also created a Usage section and placed Hasbro as an external link. I think the Usage section works and I'm glad you suggested it. Tell me what you think! ItsLassieTime (talk) 22:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reviewing nd passing Play-Doh to GA! I'm thrilled! And I'll be reviewing GA noms as well. ItsLassieTime (talk) 12:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Survivors (2008 TV series)
Hi there, thanks for agreeing to GA review Survivors (2008 TV series). -- Deadly&forall;ssassin 21:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I've responded to your points and made edits to the article to reflect your ideas. -- Deadly&forall;ssassin 08:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Could I ask you to make some suggestions about what we would need to do to get this article up to FA status? -- Deadly&forall;ssassin 23:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I took your suggestion and ran with it. What can I say, I was bored. You may find a rather excessive mini essay over at Talk:Survivors (2008 TV series). If you need any more suggestions, don't hesitate to ask me. On the other hand, if my suggestions have put you off me completely, well, never mind. :) - we  eb  il  oo  bi  l  ( talk ) 17:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

England GA
Hey, thanks for reviewing England (the article :P). Now, I've just added a load of references to previously unsourced areas...thus possibly meeting your concerns. Please, if it doesn't meet your concerns, could you tell me where else I could improve the references? Thanks a lot! Cheers.  I 'mperator 23:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks a tonne! =D I'll do the improvements that you suggested to England. ;) Cheers.  I 'mperator 16:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

GAReview
Hi, Will you have a look at my talkpage? I must have done something very wrong, still didn' figure out what exactly, and also userAepoutre (talk) has a question which, unfortunately I cannot answer cause I do not understand anything about the task you gave me. Thnks for helping me out on this one! Galoubet (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Gooood morning and Happy Easter
These are the spores the Easter Hares left this morning in by backyard... Happy Easter from your adoptee !!!

WikiProject Doctor Who/Assessment

 * LA 16:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * LA 09:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * LA 18:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * LA 11:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox
It would be lovely if you find some way of removing your sandbox from Category:WikiProject banners with formatting errors, because I am trying to clear out that category. It would work if you moved it the talk page I think. Thanks, &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation
Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

In need of mentorship
Hi,

I saw your name over at WP:ADOPT.

I need the advice of an experienced Wikipedian.

I'm currently coordinating development of Wikipedia's Outline of knowledge, which has grown to around 500 pages, and I am having trouble recruiting editors to help build and improve it. I need some mentorship here.

I also need advice on the guideline draft I've been writing for the Outline of Knowledge at User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge. Is it good enough? Did I miss anything important?

My latest effort to recruit help on the outlines is a proposal for a contest between all of the country WikiProjects on Wikipedia (about 200 of them). Each country has an outline devoted to it, and so I figured these outlines fall within the scope of the corresponding WikiProjects. This will be a very big event, and I'm not sure I'm going about it in the best way.

So you see, I've taken on a lot, and I need as much advice as I can get.

Sincerely,

The Transhumanist 20:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

(P.S.: I look forward to your reply on my talk page).


 * Thank you.


 * I look forward to the next episode...


 * The Transhumanist 23:23, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Notification of GA/R
Hello. This is a note to let you, as the most recent GA reviewer, know that I have opened a GA/Rhere. The reassessment discussion can be found at that link. Thanks, –Whitehorse1 01:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

template help and mentoring
I've just done a GA review, and struggled through the templates, etc., but not sure how to remove the article from the list of articles "needing review." You're on the list of mentors, and since you're a Who-fan, I thought I'd ask you. --Auntieruth55(talk) 20:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Genau, alles klar! Vielen Dank! --Auntieruth55 (talk) 16:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I owe you an apology
I somehow skipped your post when I was writing the latest newsletter, and your advice wasn't included on there with the rest of the mentors.

That was my oversight, and I'm sorry.

We've been posting banners and task requests to subject talk pages, but haven't gotten to the corresponding WikiProjects yet (that's coming soon). Though we have posted notices on the country WikiProjects' talk pages concerning the 200-WikiProject contest.

Your approach to "market" outlines to WikiProjects as recruiting tools to boost their membership was an interesting take on things. I'll definitely try that.

You also mentioned to hunt for Wikignomes. Well, many of them post the Template:User wikipedia/WikiGnome userbox on their userpage, so "What links here" identifies them. Thanks for the idea!

I've gotten in trouble before for spamming the Village Pumps. Though I'll be posting something there eventually, and can add the notices as a P.S. or something at that time.

By the way, your suggestion to add examples to the Outline guideline has been implemented. Though we haven't gotten around to adding pictures to it yet. :)

I'll definitely report your suggestions and the progress on them in my next update.

Until then, here's the current update, detailing what's been going on. Your further advice would be most appreciated...

Outline update - Good news and bad news - 06/08/2009
The big push continues.

And it seems to be working!

The good news is that there's growing support for outlines, and there are more editors than ever editing them!

The bad news is that the complainers are disproportionately represented on the project's various talk pages. While many editors work diligently on the front end, a handful of complainers are trying to tear down the project behind the scenes. Fortunately, barely enough supporters have been watching those pages that no consensus for moving or merging the outlines has succeeded. So far...

Big problem: ignorance of what outlines are for and their benefits
Most of the opposition seems to be unaware of the complete range of what outlines are used for. They just don't get it.

This is why it is important to complete the outline article draft. An article with a comprehensive treatment of outlines would be the perfect place to refer anybody unfamiliar with outlines to.

Opposers also don't seem to understand how outlines differ from some other page type that they prefer. Some think articles are good enough as an overview, others think portals are more in-depth, still others think categories or navigation boxes are the most efficient and useful way to organize and present topical information. Some have simply never seen an "Outline of" page before and think they are a new type of page (they've been around under other names since 2001).

If you run across anyone who doesn't understand the role of outlines on Wikipedia, Why do we have outlines in addition to...?might help reduce their misconceptions or uncertainties about outlines.

On the bright side, you've got to see this...
To add the outlines and related support pages to your watchlist (takes less than 30 seconds), cut and paste them from WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist into your raw watchlist. For a way to improve the display of your watchlist - by namespace (very useful) -see Watchlist sorter, or use the "super fast upgrade" at WP:OTS.

Or go to WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist using Related changes (currently without the talk pages) and click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu on the sidebar on the left side of your screen.

The big push
The big push started with about a thousand banners and notices being placed on article talk pages all over Wikipedia.

But it didn't stop there...

Welcome our new members...
The following Wikipedians have joined the OOK team.

Be sure to stop by their talk pages and introduce yourselves.


 * Tarheel95 - going after the Main Page.
 * Vivio Testarossa / Feinoha - here to help.
 * Burningview - made a splash at MfD with WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of British Columbia (see the talk page for the MfD link - lots of support there).

Enter the mentors!
I asked a bunch of mentors at WP:ADOPT for advice. Several of them answered on my talk page. Most of those who replied were happy to help, and posted some very good ideas. A couple even joined the project.

Here are their ideas, and what is being done about them. A few of the tasks still need volunteers:


 * Strdst grl: Create and place project banners - already ✅
 * Strdst grl & The Earwig: put an animated ad for the project in WP:BANNER - Our graphics specialist Penubag is looking into it.
 * Strdst grl: Create a userbox for the project - assigned to Penubag.
 * Garden: Ask to have outlines added to next year's WikiCup competition - ✅ (proposal posted)
 * Tarheel95: Add a link to Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge to the Main Page - Tarheel95 is taking on the creation of the proposal
 * SriMesh: Create an outreach subpage to WPOOK - ✅(invitation coming soon, see below)
 * SriMesh: (Create a newsletter archive subpage) - ✅
 * SriMesh: Add a feed to AlexNewArtBot to gather links to new outlines and post them on a page. Then personally invite new creators to the project. - who wants to tackle the feed?
 * SriMesh: Assign someone to monitor the outlines via watchlist, and invite new outline editors to the project - any volunteers?
 * Related: Create an invitation - Penubag is working on it.
 * SriMesh: Create Template:Expand outline similar to Template:Expand list, which adds each outline it is posted on to Category:Incomplete outlines, where editors (who are browsing the categories) can find them and work on them - to be assigned
 * SriMesh: Add the above template to incomplete outlines - upcoming AWB task
 * The Earwig: "Tell your wikifriends about it" - I've told mine, have you told yours?
 * The Earwig: "Collaborate with other WikiProjects" - we've been doing this from the start (each outline is associated with at least one other WikiProject).
 * : move the projected outline to a subpage of WP:WPOOK - ✅

Linking to outlines has begun
To the tops of about 30 subject articles, I placed a test batch of hatnotes leading to the corresponding outlines. The hatnotes look like this:


 * For a topical guide to this subject, see Outline of X.(Hidden: <!- PLEASE LEAVE THIS LINE IN PLACE because it leads to the page that serves as the table of contents for Wikipedia's overall coverage of this subject. Thank you.-->

The rationale for the hatnotes is that each outline is a topical guide for its subject, and since tables of contents go at the front of a book, a link to each outline should be placed at the front of its subject.

Unfortunately, not all editors agree. Some of the hatnotes have already disappeared. :(

Some past discussions pertaining to the existence or location of outlines
Note that the "Lists of topics" are of two types, including outlines and indexes, so discussions to remove, move, or merge those are usually relevant to the OOK. Also, outlines are a type of list, so discussions that affect lists in general also pertain to outlines. We've got to be on our toes!


 * Move navigational lists to portal namespace
 * Articles for deletion/Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics
 * Articles for deletion/Outline of South Africa
 * Articles for deletion/List of basic visual arts and design topics
 * Articles for deletion/List of basic mining topics
 * Articles for deletion/List of basic management topics
 * Articles for deletion/List of basic industrial topics
 * Articles for deletion/List of basic computer science topics
 * Articles for deletion/List of basic Canada topics
 * User talk:The Transhumanist/Archive 21
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of British Columbia
 * Talk:Switzerland
 * Outline of science converted to redirect by Dbachmann
 * Village pump (policy)/Archive 64
 * Administrators' noticeboard/Archive193
 * Village pump (proposals)/Archive 47

I've excluded links to live discussions, out of respect for WP:CANVASS.

Table of contents to OOK-related stuff
Here's a directory of outline support pages:


 * Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge
 * Lists
 * WP:CLN
 * Stand-alone lists
 * Outlines
 * Why do we have outlines in addition to...?
 * Comparison of Wikipedia's and Britannica's outlines of knowledge
 * WP:WPOOK
 * WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Projected outline

Keep up the great work!
The Transhumanist 22:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

WPOOK advert banner under development, here's the beta...
Thank you to those who suggested WPOOK have an animated advert banner. Penubag got working on it right away. Here's what he's come up with so far:

Penubag needs feedback.

I've posted a few changes for him to make to it.

Please post additional comments and suggestions for him at User talk:Penubag.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 02:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Need help explaining WikiCup proposal
I posted a proposal to add outlines to next year's WikiCup, and nobody there seems to understand outlines.

Help.

The Transhumanist 04:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline collaboration!
As you know, Penubag is working on a banner to advertise the Outline WikiProject. And he's almost done.

The banner prominently presents the "Outline of chocolate", which of course will become the most widely advertised outline as soon as the banner goes live. The first thing many editors will do after seeing the banner is look for that outline.

The problem is, we don't have one.

So that's our first outline collaboration!

I started a draft this morning.

It needs to be finished and moved to the article namespace before we can start using Penubag's banner ad!

Come join in on the fun. It's chocolate!

The Transhumanist 21:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Dear Mentor,
Thank you for your advice. We're putting it to good use.

I've run into a situation, and need your valuable insight.

One thing I've tried to do with respect to the outlines is place a hatnote on subject articles leading to that subject's corresponding outline.

Two people complained, and form the basis of consensus not to do it.

The main concern was quality: a hatnote shouldn't be placed unless the outline is of at least the same or higher quality than the article the hatnote is being placed on. That sets up a catch-22, since we need the best linking we can to attract readers and editors in the first place. The more traffic, the more feedback and changes.

So quality is the focus.

Please have a look at the outlines.

What are the biggest quality issues? What do the outlines need done to them in order to improve their quality?

I look forward to your reply on my talk page.

The Transhumanist 22:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

WPOOK's advert banner is done!


Is it perfect? Can it be improved?

Penubag loves feedback. Please let him know if it can be further improved.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 23:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline update - Full Steam Ahead! - 06/18/2009
Several members of the WikiProject have been hard at work.

Buaidh has been building and refining the outlines on the U.S. States, the states' historical outlines, and theHistorical outline of the United States. Lately, his edits have dominated the project's watchlist readout. (I think he's overdue for a barnstar or two. hint hint)

Penubag has been working on medals for all the main branches of the OOK, and has completed the OOK WikiProject's animated advert banner (see below).

Highfields has been filling in the currencies for each country on their respective outlines.

NuclearWarfare and Thehelpfulone have been busy with WP:AWB, posting banners and notices, and helping our sister project, the Index WikiProject, get established. Indexes work hand-in-hand with the outlines and are prominently linked to from the top of most of them. And the outlines, which serve as tables of contents, are only as good as the pages they link to.

Since we started integrating (linking) the OOK and its support pages into the encyclopedia and into the Wikipedia community, activity on outlines has been increasing. Though there's still much left to do.

But I digress. There are a couple more...

Welcome our new members! Stefan and MacMed
Stefan is building the Outline of sharks.

MacMed has joined our advanced wiki-tools team, and is currently adding links to outlines in the corresponding subject articles' see also sections.

Be sure to stop by their talk pages and say "hi".

WPOOK's advert banner has gone live!
Penubag has finished this WikiProject's animated advert banner, and it is now being displayed on theWikipedia ads template which in turn is displayed on about 2000 user pages. Each time someone access one of those pages, there is a 1 in 184 chance of them viewing this:

If you'd like to display the banner on your userpage locked-on to the ad as above, use the following code:

 

(By the way, it's been awhile since we've barnstarred Penubag).

Watchers needed!
If you haven't already, please add the entire project's watchlist to your watchlist. Here's how:


 * From the edit window, copy and paste WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist into your raw watchlist.


 * Or go to WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist using Related changes and click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu in Wikipedia's sidebar on the left hand side of the screen.

Check the watchlist every time you log on!
I forgot to mention this step above. :)

The OOK is in 5 other Wikipedias?
I can't make heads or tails of 'em, but these links were on Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge:


 * ar:ويكيبيديا:مواضيع أساسية
 * fa:پورتال:فهرست موضوعات پایه
 * pl:Przegląd dziedzin wiedzy
 * pt:Portal:Conteúdo/Esboço do conhecimento
 * zh-yue:基礎課題表清單

Resurrected from the grave yard...
I discovered an AfD discussion on possibly the first article named "Outline of", which was called Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics, and which was created 4 years ago. Of course they deleted it. But now it has many friends, and so it has risen from the dead. :)

See the DRV discussion at Deletion review/Log/2009 June 7.

A diamond buried in project space

 * When G716 found the page "Learn" tucked away as a subpage of the Probability WikiProject, he thought "This deserves to be in the article space", and moved it to the encyclopedia. See Outline of probability.

Recruiting
Recruiters needed. Drop me a note if you are interested.

Advice from the mentors

 * Astatine-210, Strdst grl, and Willscrlt - link to the outlines from the corresponding subject articles' see also sections - this is underway by MacMed (non-country outlines) and User talk:NuclearWarfare (counry outlines).
 * Astatine-210 - add a link to the outlines to the disambiguation pages of the corresponding subjects - good idea. Since "Outline" is just the type of page, not the subject, I think these might qualify for inclusion on disambiguation pages. We need someone to look into the relevant guidelines on this.
 * SimonTrew - provide a badge (userbox) for WPOOK members to add to their user pages - Penubag will have one for us soon.
 * Zachary crimsonwolf - create a card explaining outlines, and send it to everyone you know, and make it viral (by including a request for the recipients to send the card to everyone they know) - this task has been split in three:
 * Creation of a "thank you for your interest" card which introduces (explains) outlines, to send to queriers, new participants to discussions, those who seem to be confused about outlines, etc.
 * Creation of a thank you card / invitation to the WPOOK, to send to users we see working on outlines, including a request for them to invite others whom they think might be interested


 * weebiloobil - contact Wikignomes - OK...
 * 3. Creation of an invitation to Wikignomes, with a brief rundown on the types of tasks there are for them to do on the outlines. The invitation will include a request for them to invite anyone they think would enjoy working on outlines.


 * weebiloobil - add examples to Outlines - more examples will be added as suitable outlines are completed
 * weebiloobil - add a picture to Outlines (it doesn't have to be relevant), to provide atmosphere and to break it up visually and add a splash of color - will do, and we'll add a caption to make it relevant, with a link to the outline on that subject. Thank you for the idea.
 * Zachary crimsonwolf - ask Jimbo Wales to bestow the award(s) for the country outlines contest, once you get it going first - we'll give that a try
 * Zachary crimsonwolf - ask everyone in the project to inform their acquaintances around Wikipedia about the OOK - will do, as soon as the cards
 * UzEE - collaborate with all the WikiProjects you share scope with - we've placed a banner on their talk pages, and have placed task notices on some. We'll be posting more tasks, and plan to create a section on contents system development and maintenance for each WikiProject page itself.
 * SriMesh - if you can't get outlines added to next year's WikiCup, then create your own WikiCup-like contest - there's 6 months left to this year to address reservations and work out the details at WikiCup. In the meantime, there's the200-WikiProject contest, which needs input.

More outline tasks

 * WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of chocolate draft - our current outline collaboration!
 * Outline of psychology - someone moved a big chunk of this article to the talk page, leaving a big gap in the outline. Editors are needed to add subheadings and links.
 * See also links - add (where "x" is the subject) to the see also section of the corresponding subject article of each outline

New outlines in article space

 * Outline of sharks - under construction in article space
 * Outline of Hinduism (converted from "List of Hinduism-related topics")

New outline drafts

 * Outline of chocolate
 * Outline of Christianity

Main discussion pages

 * Wikipedia talk:Outlines
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Outline of knowledge
 * Portal talk:Contents/Outline of knowledge

Keep up the great work
I'm impressed with the level of enthusiasm and work going into the outlines. I'm proud to be working with each of you.

The Transhumanist 21:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline collaboration #2: Outline of Gibraltar
This outline is approaching completion.

I added a bunch more links, finding them with the following Google site-specific searches of Wikipedia:
 * "of" and "Gibraltar"


 * "in" and "Gibraltar"


 * "for" and "Gibraltar"


 * with "Gibraltar" not at the end

(You can use the wikicode for the links above as the basis for new searches - just replace "Gibraltar" with any other country or region name).

Request: please redirect the redlinks! (bluelinking...)
The redlinks need to be bluelinked where possible. The most useful way is to create redirects leading to the material (which is usually included in a section of an article - see Redirect. That way, when the redirect pages are replaced by the actual articles, the links will already point to the right places.

Please take a crack at it, and bluelink a few.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Have fun.

The Transhumanist 01:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

P.S.: on an unrelated matter, where should the Outline of chocolate be placed on the OOK? -TT

I finally got to whack somebody with a trout!
That was fun. :)

The Transhumanist 23:51, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline update - Push push push - 06/25/2009
Work is proceeding apace...


 * Julian is working on getting a bot account (and he delivered this update as his trial run).
 * Penubag is working on the Project page and upcoming contest.
 * Buaidh is developing all of the U.S. state historical outlines.
 * Tarheel95 is writing a proposal to add a link to the Main Page leading to the the OOK.
 * Highfields is integrating the OOK into the encyclopedia by deorphanizing outlines by placing a main link in the see also section of the subject articles that have a corresponding outline.
 * I've been trying to keep up with them. :)


 * New members


 * Minnecologies - developing Outline of forestry and is watching the big picture.
 * Mnation2 - improving Outline of Lebanon


 * Hatnotes

The current consensus is that we can't place a hatnote leading to an outline at the top of a subject articles unless the outline being presented is of at least the same quality-level as the article.


 * What's next...

Improve outline quality by completing them.

Place hatnotes for the outlines of high enough quality.

Guidelines pertaining to outlines need to be updated. Outlines emerged as a class of pages only a few months ago, and most of the relevant guidelines don't cover them specifically. For example, Stand-alone lists is incredibly out of date.

Invite wikignomes, wikielves, and wikifairies (all 2500+ of them) to help on the outlines.

Identify 600 more subjects with coverage extensive enough to justify outlines, create rudimentary drafts for them, and post notices to the corresponding WikiProjects and subject talk pages to help build them.

Convert outlines titled "List of" to outline articles, and add them to the OOK. There are a few hundred of these. Conversion instructions are needed.

Add a description of outlines to About Wikipedia and Basic navigation, and add tips about outlines to the WP:TOTD and Tips library.


 * Keep up the great work!

The Transhumanist 20:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for feedback
Minnecologies has done an incredible amount of work on Outline of forestry and posted a note to me on my talk page requesting feedback.

I've posted my observations at Talk:Outline of forestry.

Please take a look at the outline and let Minnecologies know what you think of it on the outline's talk page.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 19:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC) Delivered by JCbot (talk) at 20:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC).

Dear Mentor
Weebiloobil,

Thank you for your previous advice.

We've been integrating the OOK into the encyclopedia. Hatnotes were rejected (until quality improves), but we've been adding links to see also sections.

As a result of the increased exposure due to these internal links and to banners placed on WikiProject talk and subject talk pages, a fair amount of opposition has risen. I expected some of this.

But one of the opposers is getting very devious, using tricks like venue shopping WP:AN and WP:ANI - he has over 123,456 edits, so he has to know those were not the appropriate place to post notices of this type. It was a backhanded tactic. But not as bad as the way he presents his case - I'm finding his rhetoric very difficult to deal with.

Here's a list of the incidents and discussions regarding outlines.

What I need is advice on improving outline support pages (instructions, descriptions, etc., and how they are organized) so that editors who come into the middle of this chaos can make quick sense of outlines and how they fit into the big picture (and relate to the other parts of Wikipedia). There's a lot of confusion between outlines and portals, for instance.

Here's a directory of outline-related pages.

I very much look forward to your insights. Th e Tr ans hu man ist  03:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Outline Update - Exhausted - 07/10/2009
I'm sorry that I haven't been available to assign tasks lately. For the past 3 days (not including today) I've been almost totally consumed in discussions concerning the location and very existence of outlines. Today I finally broke free and got back to work on outlines. Felt good.

A great deal has been happening with outlines and behind the scenes. I just don't have time to tell you all about it this time around. Here's the best I can do...


 * How to watch what's going on with outlines

If you'd like a bird's eye view of everything that's happening with respect to outlines, see this page:


 * WP:OOKWL - watchlist for copying and pasting into your raw watchlist.

Or go to these pages (and click on "Related changes" in the sidebar's toolbox menu):


 * WP:OOKRC - a version of the above watchlist for use with "Related changes".
 * WP:OOKDIR - a list of key pages related to the OOK, along with their shortcuts.
 * WP:OOKDISC - list of discussions pertaining to outlines.
 * Recently converted to outlines

These outline articles, which were named "List of...", have been converted to an OOK format:


 * Outline of martial arts (was "List of martial arts-related topics")
 * Outline of wine - converted by Stefan (was called "List of wine-related topics")
 * Outline of the creation-evolution controversy (was "List of topics in the creation-evolution controversy")
 * Outline of actuarial science (was "Actuarial topics")
 * Outline of industrial organization (was "List of topics in industrial organization")
 * Recently merged into outlines

There are a lot of "List of" articles that are outlines. Some of them are on the same subjects as the "Outline of" articles. The following one have been recently merged:


 * List of finance topics into Outline of finance

The Transhumanist 01:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Outline Update - Exhausted - 07/10/2009
I'm sorry that I haven't been available to assign tasks lately. For the past 3 days (not including today) I've been almost totally consumed in discussions concerning the location and very existence of outlines. Today I finally broke free and got back to work on outlines. Felt good.

A great deal has been happening with outlines and behind the scenes. I just don't have time to tell you all about it this time around. Here's the best I can do...


 * How to watch what's going on with outlines

If you'd like a bird's eye view of everything that's happening with respect to outlines, see this page:


 * WP:OOKWL - watchlist for copying and pasting into your raw watchlist.

Or go to these pages (and click on "Related changes" in the sidebar's toolbox menu):


 * WP:OOKRC - a version of the above watchlist for use with "Related changes".
 * WP:OOKDIR - a list of key pages related to the OOK, along with their shortcuts.
 * WP:OOKDISC - list of discussions pertaining to outlines.
 * Recently converted to outlines

These outline articles, which were named "List of...", have been converted to an OOK format:


 * Outline of martial arts (was "List of martial arts-related topics")
 * Outline of wine - converted by Stefan (was called "List of wine-related topics")
 * Outline of the creation-evolution controversy (was "List of topics in the creation-evolution controversy")
 * Outline of actuarial science (was "Actuarial topics")
 * Outline of industrial organization (was "List of topics in industrial organization")
 * Recently merged into outlines

There are a lot of "List of" articles that are outlines. Some of them are on the same subjects as the "Outline of" articles. The following one have been recently merged:


 * List of finance topics into Outline of finance

The Transhumanist 01:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Outline Update - Basking in the light of knowledge - 07/28/2009
Phase two of outline integration (de-orphanizing outlines by adding links leading to them into article see also sections) is nearly complete. The better that outlines are integrated into the encyclopedia, the more use they will be to readers.

Due to greater exposure through outline integration, and with most of the OOK team on school summer vacation, development activity on outlines has increased a lot...


 * New members


 * Be sure to welcome our newest members to the team:
 * Tiamut
 * Mandsford


 * News : Outline of Palestine survives AfD


 * The outline was nominated for deletion for being too general in scope. The consensus was overwhelmingly for keeping it.


 * The most memorable comment was posted by Mandsford: I like the poetic name, anyway. [Outline of Palestine]. "Master Plan of Pakistan" and "Rough Sketch of Bangladesh" would be good too.


 * Special thanks to Tiamut for greatly improving the outline, and helping to save it from AfD.


 * To keep track of outline AfDs and other outline-related discussions, see WP:OOKDISC.


 * Who's active on Wikipedia this summer?


 * Courtesy of Rich Farmbrough, here's a list of editors by their edit counts over the previous month (8th June to 8th July).


 * It would be nice to get the most prolific Wikipedians involved with WP:WPOOK. If you can, find a good reason to contact one or more of them, and invite them to work on a relevant outline - or all 500!


 * Who's been up to what?


 * Buaidh, Highfields, and Gimme danger have been working on the government sections of the country outlines. Being that there are about 240 of these, with critical information being filled in on each, this is by far the hardest and most important chore of this WikiProject right now.
 * Penubag is working on a redesign of the top OOK page.
 * Tiamut has done an incredible job developing the Outline of Palestine.
 * And kudos also go to Eu.stefan for his work on Outline of Buddhism.

Thank you.

Here's what else has been going on...


 * New outlines


 * Recently created outlines include:


 * Outline of England - TT
 * Outline of Scotland - TT
 * Outline of Buddhism - Eu.stefan
 * Outline of ancient Greece - TT


 * Recently converted to outlines


 * These outline articles, which were named "List of...", have been converted to an OOK format and added to the OOK:


 * Outline of the Vietnam War - was "List of Vietnam War-related topics" - TT
 * Outline of combinatorics - was "List of combinatorics topics" - converted by Minnecologies
 * Outline of category theory - was "List of category theory topics" converted by Minnecologies
 * Outline of scientific method - was "List of scientific method topics" - TT
 * Outline of ancient Rome - was "List of topics related to ancient Rome" - TT


 * Recently merged into outlines


 * There are a lot of "List of" articles that are outlines. Some of them are on the same subjects as the "Outline of" articles.  The following articles have been recently merged into OOK pages:


 * List of finance topics into Outline of finance - TT
 * List of England-related topics into Outline of England - TT


 * Outlines that have been tagged
 * Tags are requests to fix a problem or improve an article in a particular way. Unless we want the tags to sit there for an extended period of time cluttering up the outlines (we don't), it is up to us to fulfill those requests or attend to underlying misassumptions (if any).


 * Outline of literature - tagged as Original research
 * Outline of ancient Greece - tagged as under construction
 * '''Outline of mathematics - tagged as in need of attention from an expert
 * Outline of arithmetic - tagged as not citing any references or sources.
 * Outline of immunology - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of organic chemistry - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of psychology - tagged as in need of attention from an expert on the subject
 * Outline of family and consumer science - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of energy storage - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of nuclear technology - tagged as  an orphan
 * Outline of ergonomics - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of construction - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of machines - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of free software - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of design - tagged as containing original research or unverified claims, and needing references or sources
 * Outline of automobiles - tagged as an orphan


 * I can't stress enough the importance of watching


 * With so many outlines (now over 500), and a growing number of support pages (guidelines, wikiproject pages, etc.), I can no longer keep up. I need your help watching over it all.


 * If you'd like to omnisciently view everything "from above", see this page:


 * WP:OOKWL - watchlist for copying and pasting into your raw watchlist.


 * Or go to these pages (and click on "Related changes" in the sidebar's toolbox menu):


 * WP:OOKRC - a version of the above watchlist for use with "Related changes".
 * WP:OOKDIR - a list of key pages related to the OOK, along with their shortcuts.
 * WP:OOKDISC - list of discussions pertaining to outlines.


 * What's next?

There are a lot of contradictions in guidelines related to outlines. I'll be turning my attention to fixing those.

The number of "Outline of" articles is rapidly catching up to portals, and will probably pass them by the end of the summer!

Keep up the excellent work.

The Transhumanist 01:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

We're working on something special...
...to award Buaidh for all his hard work.

It's at User:Penubag/Sandbox3.

But it's not done yet. Feel free to help improve it.

I'm hoping that everyone involved with the WP:WPOOK will sign it (please sign without a timestamp).

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 22:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

OOK collaboration: Outline of knowledge (eom)
Delivered by – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk at 21:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I would like to help with GAN reviews
Hi Weebiloobil,

I came across your profile via Good article nominations/Mentors. My reason for contact is that I've noticed a huge backlog in GAN's, and was wondering if anyone was permitted to help out in the reviewing process. I'm willing to offer my services, and see if I can get the backlog down a little bit more. Would I be doing the wrong thing if I were to help out with GAN's? I look forward to your reply. (Gareth aka Pr3st0n (talk) 19:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)).