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The Real World: Portland
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 * Hi again. Please do not add unsourced material or remove content without providing a rationale in your edit summary, as you did with these edits to The Real World: Portland. There is no indication in Episode 3 nor at the iTunes page you cited that the cast's jobs at the two eateries were part of a cast assignment given to them by the producers, nor is there any indication in Episode 8 that there has been any modification to the normal rules governing the cast assignments in seasons that include them. This appear to be an interpretation by you, and we cannot put our personal interpretations or analyses in articles. Doing so violates the policy WP:No Original Research, in particular the one prohibiting synthesis.


 * In addition, the name of the pizzeria is Pizza Schmizza, not merely "Schmizza". Although there is at least one sign in Episode 3 that merely says "Schmizza", other signs, as well as numerous lines of dialogue and onscreen text in that episode give the full name.


 * Also, punctuation goes before citations, not after it, as explained by WP:PAIC, yet you placed a period after a citation again in your last edit.


 * Lastly, please remember that material in Wikipedia must be written in a formal tone, without slang, unexplained jargon, etc. Instead of using words like "tweak", try using words like "modify" or "change" or "alter".


 * Thanks for adding that material about the name of the second eatery, and about the dog in Road Rules: X-Treme. Good job! :-) Nightscream (talk) 14:41, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Please stop adding unsourced material to articles, as you did with this edit to The Real World: Cancun. If you continue to do so, you risk being blocked from editing. Please do not make that necessary. Thank yo. Nightscream (talk) 15:31, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * In the edit summary that accompanied your revert of my edit, you state "its in the show, doesnt need to be sourced. same way u didnt source jasmine's interest in pat or joey's dislike for job".


 * Wrong. Readers need to be informed where information comes from, so that it can be verified, per the Verifiability policy. They need to be informed whether it comes from a secondary source, or in the case of the show, which episode it comes from. This is why you'll notice that in all the well-developed Real World articles, as well as other TV articles like the one on Pawn Stars, all information does just that. The passage that you added did not indicate that "its in the show", nor does it tell the reader where in the show it came from.


 * As for your claim the information on Joey's dislike for the job and Jasmine's interest in Pat was not sourced, the first is completely untrue, and the second only partially so. The passage for Joey's dislike for the job indeed indicates which episodes that information comes from. As for Jasmine's attraction to Pat, that is covered in the Episode Table, in the Episode where it occurred (Episode 8). Nonetheless, it should be in the Cast table too, so I added it. Thanks for pointing that out, but it doesn't justify repeating that error elsewhere. Nightscream (talk) 23:19, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you violate Wikipedia's No Original Research, Verifiability or Reliable Sources policies by adding unsourced POV analyses to articles, as you did with this edit to The Real World: Portland, you will be blocked from editing. For the final time: Group jobs are those that are given to the entire cast, and assigned by the producers. Jobs that individual cast members get at different employers is not a group activity, so there is nothing to "participate" in, let alone anything for there to be "mandatory". Nightscream (talk) 03:30, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The fact that it's not a group job is precisely why the rule requiring cast members to maintain the job in order to stay in the house does not apply. Chicago was a group job, because they were working for the same employer. The fact that they were given different posts or tasks in that job doesn't mean that it wasn't a group job. There is no indication that the Portland producers are the ones who arranged the interviews, and even if they did, this is no different from what an employment agency does, and is a result of the fact that the producers can only film outside the apartment at establishments at which they have received clearance for filming cleared through contractual arrangements with local businesses.(Source 1Source 2) It does not mean that the jobs constituted a group activity, much less that they were required for staying in the house.


 * As for Joi's reasons for leaving, there was no indication that it was because working in the jobs was mandatory. In the first place, there was no statement or other indication of this in Episode 3, which I just reviewed. Dialogue indicated that her reasons for leaving were her own dissatisfaction with the local job prospects, and her unhappiness, which was a decision that she came to after discussion with her father. No indication was that she had to leave, or that producers required her to. In the second place, she stated in the Reunion that she her main reason for leaving was because of her boyfriend's recuperation from surgery back home. If you had actually bothered to read her bio cell in the Cast table, you'd know this, as that passage is not only there, but sourced. Thus, your edits are based on a personal interpretation on your part, one that requires you to deliberately ignore evidence that contradicts it, because you just plain don't want to let go of it.


 * In any event, if you believed that there was an indication in Episode 3 that living in the house required working in one of the jobs, then you should've cited the episode in question, as I pointed out to you REPEATEDLY above. But you did not. The only information you placed before the Episode 3 citation was an unnecessary breakdown of the number of castmates working at each of the two eateries. The passage that you added, "It is unclear if the mandatory participation applied this season as the season had the unique job interview process...", did not cite Episode 3, but Episode 8, because that episode depicted Nia remaining in the house after losing her job. If you felt Episode 3 supported your assertion, then why didn't you cite it? Simple. Because there is nothing in that episode that says or even implies anything about the jobs being mandatory, and you figured, after the last time I reverted the unsourced personal interpretation of yours that you added to the article, that maybe you'd wait a while and sneak it back in, perhaps in the belief that I wouldn't notice, apparently because you were unaware that the RW articles are on my Watchlist.


 * And as far as your claim about Episode 8, the fact that Nia remains in the house after losing the jobs is what further illustrates that there isn't any group activity that requires participation to remain in the house. The fact that you personally are too obtuse to comprehend this does not mean that it's "unclear". Just because it's "unclear" to you and because you find the interviews to be "unique", doesn't mean that those ideas will be stated as such in Wikipedia's voice. See WP:NPOV and WP:SYNTH.


 * The issue is not that anyone here thinks that this is "Nightscream presents Wikipedia". The issue is your inability/refusal to follow Wikipedia policies and guidelines, even after they're repeatedly pointed out to you, and with copious links to them, because you apparently think that the rules don't apply to you, which seems far more like an attitude of "Wefjkwsjkls presents Wikipedia", than any such sentiment on my part.

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