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Thank you. I'm glad to have the contributions from other people who know what they are doing, particularly those with a different international perspective. I'm going to keep watch over the page to try to make sure craziness doesn't get inserted and I welcome you to do the same. So far, I have avoided placing wikilinks to articles that don't exist, with a minor exception here or there if I have plans to write such an article. We could wikilink every name on the list, but I think that will look ugly. Writing an article about each person on the list also seems like an impossibility, so best not to advertise that as a probability. Going through the list, I am amazed simply at the number of typos on the official WMA list--I'm still chasing those. Thanks for the help. Trackinfo (talk) 16:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In statistical lists sometimes all placenames are wikilinked. It looks rather ugly, it's up to you to decide. And when you do not like some of my additions: throw them away! The Dutch being done I will look at the Belgian athletes and then I can compare the European records with the world record list. OK? Weia (talk) 17:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you again for keeping this up to date. Trackinfo (talk) 20:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice to do. It is the best reference on the web for age records. I am writing about age grading, so I needed it. Weia (talk) 21:41, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

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 * I do not know which Eugene it is...
 * If you ever see a Eugene related to Track and Field, it is Eugene, Oregon. Even though it is a relatively small city, it is the mecca of Track and Field in the USA.  We've had many national championships and world meets there.  The crowds there love the sport like nowhere else, so we keep going back.  Everywhere else, save the Penn Relays (where the crowd is full of Jamaicans, our sport is begging to find enough fans to put in the stadium.  We had the Adidas Classic here in Los Angeles, second largest metropolitan area in the USA, 17 million people.  Their ticket sales were around 1,000 from the regular American track fans.  Then they added Ana Guevara during her prime.  The Mrxican fans packed the stadium to see their national hero run.  The American fan is almost non-existent. Trackinfo (talk) 10:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * added links pointing to William Collins, Sandy, Bühl, Olathe and Berea

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 * I have no idea which Sandy, Olathe and Berea are meant... Weia (talk) 10:03, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * National Masters Championships have been held in Olathe, Kansasand Berea, Ohio. I'll guess at Sandy, Utah. Trackinfo (talk) 10:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Record progressions
Yes. I'm realizing how many names, the history of our sport, are being pushed out of recognition by new record updates. Even before Ken came out with his article, I was preparing to do Irene Obera. Well by current records, it would look to the crowd who likes to delete Wikipedia articles, that all she had was a piece of a relay record. She wouldn't even be notable. But she held every sprint record in every division she was in, most of them for ten years. Wikipedia is not just about the recent history. So I've thought this has been needed for a long time, I've just started compiling the data, mostly deduced from masterathletics.net though each incomplete item sends me chasing into other holes. I do not know the European people and places nearly as well as I know US sources. So I welcome you filling in any blanks or doing any progressions you want to. Trackinfo (talk) 19:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It will be nice to finish the chaos of sprint records. So many older marks were invalidated because of officials not having wind data.  Even old hand times will be valid marks when we get over 400. Trackinfo (talk) 19:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I know there are holes in Martin's lists, the M35 100m had 4 improvements I found because there are parallel lists that overlap that division.  Most divisions don't overlap in IAAF lists.  In short, there is nothing proprietary about what I am doing.  Please  feel free to add to any information I have posted, or just start your own in areas you know better than anybody (certainly high jump) go ahead and make your own.  I'll get there eventually, but why wait? Trackinfo (talk) 10:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

masterstrack.com
The validity of masterstrack.com is currently being questioned Reliable sources/Noticeboard. An editor is accusing it of being an unreliable source. You have used masterstrack.com as a reference in your editing. I would like to invite your comment. Trackinfo (talk) 07:40, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

List of european records in masters athletics
Hello, I just created the List of european records in masters athletics. I didn't really want to do this now, but another editor (Dutch by the way) forced my hand. So now that it exists, I'll have to start by removing the non-European names from the world record article from which this was originally copied, then I'll update with the correct European records. This content is much more your territory. You know what you are doing here, far more than me. I know it will be a lot of work, though it also has been needed. So deal with this at your leisure. Trackinfo (talk) 01:08, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh no... Whodunnit? The European record keepers are mostly uptodate, so why do double work? Weia (talk) 09:45, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Reply to Combine progressions
It might be easier to maintain. When I built the original pages per age group, it was easier for both me and I think the reader to stay with focused information. You are not the first to make such a suggestion, others with far less knowledge about the sport pushed the same thing. I argued against it, feeling it diminishes each age group achievement when lumped together onto a multiple page as you have constructed. But hey, I'm just one person, one vote. We go with the flow here. If you think it makes the presentation better, go ahead. Make it better. I also avoided red linked people unless I had plans and information to write an article about them. I think I have found most former Olympians and open world class people, but I don't know the rest of the players, particularly your expertise with European athletes. If you have the information about them and can write articles, or provide me information, we can always make it better by telling more of the story. By the way, one athlete I suspect you might know some information about, Weia Reinboud, might be a good place to start. Maybe it wouldn't be appropriate for you to write about her WP:COI, but I can if I had "sources" to work with. Point me in the right direction. Trackinfo (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I know a bit of that particular high jumper, but sources? In English?? This is an oldy: http://masterstrack.com/2002/12/6779/
 * But I am not really wanting a page about me... Weia (talk) 11:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we can use this. I don't think we need the large wikilinkling, rather we can adapt the small ones.  I'll show you how on the page.  And think it would be a (probably unattainable) goal to try to turn all the names on these progressions into blue links.  I don't want to invade your privacy, I just thought it would be good to add information about a world record holding high jumper you might be familiar with.  If there are any articles written in Dutch, I can use google translate, though my past experience was it was kind of hinkey with Dutch.  If I get desperate I can ask Annalies Steekelenburg to translate.  I expect she will be at my meet in less than three weeks. Trackinfo (talk) 23:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be a very big project to have pages for all record holders. Maybe it is doable when pages are kept very simple.


 * I have included all records from paper sources (situation at the beginning of every year from 1996 on). For the high jump I have a bit more in excel, but unfortunately I have never thought of keeping track of the progression, otherwise it would have been complete from 1997 on... Maybe at the top a note should be added about the indoor records and about the fact that not all of the records shown have reached official status. Are you willing to do that? Weia (talk) 13:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you are asking for here. Indoor records are another giant ball of wax I have not started.  Its just so massive a project all at once.  Cross records from indoor to outdoor have not been accepted, despite the IAAF rule.  I don't know of an exception in WMA rules, but none have been approved.  Since it is political, its a bit difficult to find a sufficiently wikipedia neutral way to say the administrators of these records have done a poor job.  In short, I just do what is possible from the information I have and keep trying to research what I can find.  We have Mastershistory.com which has much more information than I have the time to read.  Similarly I have NMN from about 1984 to 2000, but its a lot to read.  A lot of little steps. Trackinfo (talk) 18:26, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll ask the record keepers about the indoor-> outdoor rule. The rest is slowly progressing. You agree with the combined pages? Then I'll continue with the men's high jump and the javelin. Weia (talk) 21:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late response. I just added the directed links.  Go ahead with combining as you wish.  I still have some progressions to Men's Hammer and a few others to upload as I get time. Trackinfo (talk) 20:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Mens high jump orogression
I prefer the directed links within the larger article. I put them in with the new article link to show you what I mean. I also left your progression at the top but cleaned up the awkward wording. I like it small on the next line on this version vs the previous in lime with the title that previously we no the women. Trackinfo (talk) 10:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * That's a nice solution! Wording is up to you, that's not my thing. Have a look also at the top about the indoor records. All indoor records should be made red because WMA does not follow IAAF, is it correctly worded now? Weia (talk) 12:49, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Merge accounts
I'ld like to merge my account on the English wiki with my global account. Here my account name is Weia (or weia), on meta.wiki it is WeiaR. Thanks. Weia (talk) 10:20, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It seems to be done! WeiaR (talk) 23:38, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * I have no idea which would be the correct ones. WeiaR (talk) 09:31, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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 * I have no idea which one... WeiaR (talk) 10:07, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Fabrizio Donato world record triple jump M40
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Masters M85 triple jump world record progression
I see you posted a comment before I noticed the article under attack. Thank you. Please revisit and add a KEEP if you believe these progressions should be kept. Without the header, these discussions turn into votes and your vote will not be counted. Trackinfo (talk) 03:44, 19 September 2021 (UTC)