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Again, welcome! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:28, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hopefully the new edit is ok - I have attached 2 references both from Forbes but there are other reputable options. Welsh Walty (talk) 11:04, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

WP:OR
Please see our policy, WP:OR. If you make an assertion in an article, you must support it with a WP:Reliable source. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:15, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry first time user - I did try and post the relevant webpage - could you kindly assist ? Thanks 2A02:C7C:38C1:CC00:7132:54F9:135F:34B3 (talk) 20:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Sure, I understand that you are new. Please read this: WP:OR and this: WP:V. What they say is that whenever you post a fact, or change a fact, you must present your published sources. You cannot just post things because believe them to the true. If you have a source, you can just post the url between ref tags until you learn how to format the citation -- see WP:CITEFOOT. But the source must be a published source from an independent reliable publication. See WP:RS for more information. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:24, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * You need to demonstrate that those older hotels were "luxury" hotels when they opened, not just currently. But you are getting closer. What you really need is an article by a writer independent of the hotels themselves who states that these older hotels were considered luxury hotels before the Savoy was built.  See the discussion of "synthesis" in the WP:OR policy.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * This is wonderful feedback and understood - many thanks 👍 2A02:C7C:38C1:CC00:8004:D5B5:C6F:766 (talk) 16:35, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * By the way, the reason I am skeptical of your proposed change is that there are good sources, some which are currently cited in the Savoy Hotel article, that state that Richard D'Oyly Carte stayed at some luxury hotels in New York City in the 1880s, and he knew that Britain did not have anything comparable, which made him want to build the Savoy as the first one. So, unless you can find some better sources than the ones below, we need to follow those sources.  See: this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this, for example. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:05, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Mr Silvers,
 * I found a book and newspaper copy from 1865 which allowed me to make the most recent changes.
 * I think this shows that 1865 opening was 23 years before but also covers the luxury question with direct quotes
 * from the Prince of Wales.
 * As ever, let me know of any missteps as this is my first Wiki Activity.
 * Thanks
 * Gareth. Welsh Walty (talk) 12:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Please see WP:CSECTION. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:31, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks Mr Silvers I will review WP: CSection tomorrow and take learnings on board. Best wishes Gareth. 78.86.132.143 (talk) 20:06, 22 May 2023 (UTC)