User talk:Welshleprechaun/Archive5

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about greater oslo
greater oslo was once a name used for a bus company. that company operated in akershus as well as oslo. however it merged with an oslo based company. as a result it doesnt exist anymore. greater oslo was used only to describe where that company operated. that is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.65 (talk) 08:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ely, Cardiff
Hi, I see you've made a number of contributions to the Ely, Cardiff page. I was just wondering your opinion on how to handle the confusion with Ely and Caerau. On the face of it it seems quite simple - keep Ely stuff in the Ely article and Caerau stuff in the Caerau article. However, a LOT of things apply to both and there really is confusion as to what constitutes Ely and Caerau. For example, the Roman Villa is in Caerau as was Ely Racecourse. Most of the Ely history also applies to Caerau as it occurs on what is essentially the same geographic area! The Cowbridge road border is fine for modern day things, but doesn't really work with historical information.

One possibility is that there could be a separate article for Ely and Caerau history. The articles for the Ely and Caerau electoral wards can then link to this article and provide snippets of information relevant to either area. The electoral ward article would still have other information such as schools, pubs, roads, famous people etc as these are easy to split up between Ely and Caerau.

What do you think?

Dead passive (talk) 11:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. So, the history section as it now appears now in the Ely article would mostly also appear in the Caerau article (with reference to the Roman Villa, Ely Racecourse...)? I guess this could mostly be a cut and paste job. Which famous people were born where also needs to be sorted out as I'm not sure exactly who is from where. Do you assume that everything north or Cowbridge road is Ely and everything south is Caerau (as the electoral wards show)? Some people refer to "lower Ely" but even as a local resident I'm not exactly sure what this is! Dead passive (talk) 11:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

The Wave
If you are so uptight with my edits, then why don't you help and contribute by adding sources and solving the problem which you have !? Instead of reverting the edits and complaining, why don't you actually add some sources of your own - I am doing the work all the time and it would be nice if others could actually help. The article looks good and is constructive, but there are a few tweaks needed. Oh and by the way, the source in the Music Policy does say that the format consists of a mix of genres, so I can remove that tag you placed. Jonny7003 (talk) 20:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, but I would have thought broad music - a mix of genres would have included pop, urban, rock and dance, and the station do play those styles/genres as I listen to The Wave quite a lot. Anyway, I'll try to find some more sources to back it up. Jonny7003 (talk) 20:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that this is finally being addressed on a talk page, because the edit history at this article shows both editors breaking the spirit of the three-revert rule if not the letter. No-one gets anywhere by constantly reverting back and forth, it simply creates bad feeling. As an experienced editor, Welshleprechaun will know the options for dispute resolution and you should have a look at this page too Jonny. Anyway, Welshleprechaun has already noticed that I've asked User:Mlaffs to look in and help out.--Pondle (talk) 21:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for decreasing the size of The Wave logo - I didn't know how to do it. Jonny7003 (talk) 20:06, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Placenames
I noticed one of your recent edits to The Wave 96.4 FM. Please note that there's a convention for placenames, which is placename, principal area. Thanks.--Pondle (talk) 17:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits to The Wave article
Hello Welshleprechaun,

I was wondering if you could help me out a bit here - there is a user who is currently submitting edits that consist of removing sufficient and reliable references, as well as placing details about a "merger" of "the template below", which I do not understand. This user is also adding Citation needed to the History Section, when there were already reliable sources placed in that section in the first place. Can you view The Wave 96.4 FM article and inform me as to what the user's objective is and if it's necessary please ? Thanks Jonny7003 (talk) 20:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Welshleprechaun - much appreciated. I'm still digging around, looking for more sources. Jonny7003 (talk) 14:31, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes - it was supposed to be a warning template, but I was all in a fluster at the time. Sorry about that. Jonny7003 (talk) 14:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

It was quite a heated debate and it could me a tad confused at times, what with all the different edits and removal of sources etc. Jonny7003 (talk) 14:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:Freebroute.gif
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First Great Western
I wonder why you say that FGW doesn't serve the SE? I don't know what your definition of South East England is, but according to the definition at South East England it would cover such places as Brighton, Portsmouth, and Southampton, to name but a few. David Biddulph (talk) 19:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * As well as those obvious examples, Oxford, Reading, Newbury are all in South East England too. I really can't understand that edit. Btline (talk) 20:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

change in the Pedal Power additional entry
Hi, I am Polvs and added the paragraph about Pedal Power. I see you have changed, shortened it. Could I ask why you took out the description of what Pedal Power offers ? Just for me to understand the reasoning behind it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polvs (talk • contribs) 12:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Your reply
Hi, thanks for the explanation and correction and I will adhere to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polvs (talk • contribs) 08:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - January and February 2010
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March 2010
Just wondering what was incorrect with my previous addition to the St Davids day, because i had added the fact it was a part of one of shakespeares plays and to my understanding correct, if you can account some conter acting arguements i would be more than happy to concede my point —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roid II Davyson (talk • contribs) 12:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Dyslexia lol. but in my oppinion Shakespeare is a faily reliable source as both a political commentator and play right and was the problem simple just not placing a refrencing footnote??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roid II Davyson (talk • contribs) 12:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

ceebes.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roid II Davyson (talk • contribs) 12:31, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Baycar_logo.JPG)
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Template:Major railway stations in Britain
I note that you moved Template:Major railway stations in the United Kingdom to Template:Major railway stations in Britain as a result of the proposed move. However, as I read the discussion the request was to move it to Template:Major railway stations in Great Britain (that was certainly what I was voicing support for). Thryduulf (talk) 01:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
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Llanrumney
Hi - just to clear up I see that you have edited my piece and inserted that the Eastern Leisure Centre is to close in September 2012.

This is incorrect. Cardiff Council's plans are to build a new school and re-furbished leisure centre, that would work as a combined facility for the community, and the date for this to open would be September 2012.

I also inserted some sub-headings to break the lengthy text passage on School Reorganisation up.

I have meant to work on this section for awhile and have provided numerous references to back up the entries.

Bluebirds27 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluebirds27 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an ENCYCLOPEDIA. Its unique selling point is that it can include unlimited information on given topics.

What I find alarming is that you were happy to have School Re-organisation thread on the page before that was patently inaccurate "Llanrumney High school will close in 2014"

Last night after two hours of my inserting greater detail than the superficial points listed and correcting the staggeringly inaccurate facts listed with reference articles you sought to edit and even stated - "Not sure if this stuff should be here."

Today you have repeated that by claiming that you will look in a few days to determine whether it is appropriate!

That you can argue that it may not be relevant to detail the biggest single event to happen to the life of the Llanrumney community for the last fifty years and for the next fifty years I find staggering.

The local community poll was only the second ever staged in the city of Cardiff yet you will ponder whether this is relevant to contain in an Encyclopedia entry about Llanrumney.

I shall be adding further detail to bring events up to date. As the Welsh Assembly Government is due to make a decision any day now.

The piece was written with no bias to any side. It reports what has taken place.

If you seek to censor coverage of the issue in the life of Llanrumney I would wonder as to your motives?

I would also flag this issue to Wikipedia moderators as a rather bizarre attempt either to censor coverage of factual detail that is on the public record or an attempt to deny other users the legitimate right to add to the Llanrumney section.

As it stands today the piece is informative and factual correct. As it stood yesterday and for the past year it was plainly incorrect. Which would you and which would Wikipedia rather see?

Bluebirds27 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluebirds27 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Bus routes in Cardiff
I have nominated bus routes in cardiff for renaming to bus transport in cardiff. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:08, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Moving Text
You have given no rationale reason for which to move the section "School Reorganisation" section from the Llanrumney to Llanrumney High School. You have stated that you live on the opposite side of the city from Llanrumney, that you have no interest in the subject yet you have sought to question the notability of text that is referenced by 11 sources - these compromise BBC - South Wales Echo and Cardiff Council!. If you fail to see the relevance of facts about the development to the Eastern Leisure Centre, parkland in Llanrumney, Llanrumney High School, Llanrumney's only ever local community poll in the Llanrumney page then I will take this matter up with Wikipedia. You clearly have an ulterior motive than that of Wikipedia which is an online Encyclopedia. I have noted comments from others that you have been quick to accuse of bias. I think there might be a page on something called psychological projection. I shall revert changes if you simply move the text, I shall raise the issue with Wikipedia and I'd be more than happy to go to the local press about why anybody would look to marginalise text that is factually correct, neutrality written and reference by reputable sources. When it involves an issue of such interest to the people of Llanrumney seeking to move it to a less accessed page smacks of something rather odd going on. (Bluebirds27 (talk) 19:17, 21 March 2010 (UTC))


 * You don't need to have knowledge or interest on a subject to know if it conforms to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I am not talking about the relevance or notability any more! I am saying that information on a school's closure belongs on that school's article. That should be clear, but evidently not. I'm going to move this discussion to Talk:Llanrumney and ask for a third opinion on the matter. Welshleprechaun (talk) 19:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * You seem to fail to grasp that the council's plans include closing the Eastern Leisure Centre, refurbishing it and then using it in conjunction with the school. A totally new state of affairs for the community of Llanrumney since the ELC was opened in 1982 when the leisure centre was an independent leisure centre. How does this fit better within Llanrumney High School rather than Llanrumney? The text I have written describes only the second ever local community poll to be held in Cardiff after Canton's poll in 2007. How does that not merit inclusion on the Llanrumney page? The council's plans if approved would see the parkland that currently hosts the Llanrumney Festival be built on. How does that not merit inclusion on the Llanrumney page? It must be written about without bias, no question and referenced no question. I have done both. 11 references from sources including the BBC, South Wales Echo and Cardiff Council. In contrast to your previous edit that stated the plan was to go ahead in 2014, two years later than is actually the case, without any single reference supporting this inaccuracy? (Bluebirds27 (talk) 19:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC))


 * I am well aware of the plans, having read about them. However the aim is to reorganise the schools, hence why it would be most suitable on the school's page. Regarding the 2012/2014 matter, I am not repeating myself for the fourth of fifth time. I would like to suggest you read about how to behave on Wikipedia. Welshleprechaun (talk) 19:52, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you have read the plans, I included them as references on the text that I have written. You will know that the plans do not simply involve the school. They impact on the Eastern Leisure Centre, the Rumney Recreation Ground (which sits in Llanrumney) and has involved a high level of public attention on the community of Llanrumney. A Wikipedia article on Llanrumney without any mention of this would have no rationale. You may not wish to repeat yourself but you tell me you have read the plans yet you were happy to have 2014 stand for the past year. (Bluebirds27 (talk) 20:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC))


 * AGAIN: I have read the plans. They would not exist if the school weren't already there. I'm not saying it shouldn't be mentioned at all in Llanrumney article. I am proposing that the detail concerning the school is moved to the school article. AGAIN: I have no knowledge of the article's content in the past year, because your edits caused the page to appear on my Watchpage. This is going around in circles so I'd kindly ask you to stop wasting my and your time and stick to the matter I am talking about. Welshleprechaun (talk) 20:09, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * When the plans involve Llanrumney High School, Rumney High School, the Eastern Leisure Centre, the Rumney recreation Ground (in Llanrumney) the local community poll, the issue of public open space, issues of local democracy how can you divorce them from the school issue. They are one and the same thus the topic best fits on the Llanrumney page for the impact the plans could potentially have on the community either positive or negative. (Bluebirds27 (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC))


 * Right, we'll leave it as it is. Welshleprechaun (talk) 20:29, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Welshleprechaun - bias
A man with a nationalist agenda? He takes a very keen interest in political matters throughout Cardiff - why? And he accuses everybody else of bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluebirds27 (talk • contribs) 22:08, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Capital City Green
I have nominated Capital City Green, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Capital City Green. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:00, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Capital City Red
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Reply re: seeking another opinion
On the geographic placenames issue, I messaged everyone who'd contributed to the debate at the Welsh Wikipedians noticeboard. Your edit at Swansea Cork ferry had potentially much broader implications for the naming convention, so I thought it was only fair to bring it to the attention of the wider community.--Pondle (talk) 14:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Your sig
Hi Welshleprechaun

Your new sig is very pretty, but it doesn't include any links.

Per WP:SIG, "Signatures must include at least one internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page; this allows other editors easy access to your talk page and contributions log. The lack of such a link is widely viewed as obstructive."

Please can you fix it?

Thanks! -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:35, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry wasn't aware! Thanks for telling me Welsh leprechaun  21:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

"Between the Lines"
Hi Welshleprechaun, I wanted to thank you for your input on the disagreement over at this article. Thanks for corroborating the policy vs. guidelines clarification, this is something that evidently I missed, along with a few other helpful tips. –  Ker αun oςc op ia◁ galaxies  19:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I object to this. If u remove the Alternative Songs chart from the page, the page itself would be meaningless.David1287 (talk) 19:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. 3O is one of the best ways to sort out a dispute as the 3O provider will most likely have know knowledge or personal attachment to the theme of the article, and can therefore provide an unbiased opinion based purely on WP policy and guidelines. All the best  Welsh leprechaun  19:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)