User talk:Werdna/Archive/Archive-Jan2007

Werdnabot skipping timestamps
I see that some sections are being skipped, despite having timestamps. For example, "16:29, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)" is not being archived. Is there something I need to do differently? Or is this just a bug? Robert A.West (Talk) 16:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello, Werdna, I just wanted to point out that there is a thread started on WP:AN involving Werdnabot conflicting with GurchBot 2, which may require slight modification of Werdnabot's code. Thanks for your attention to this matter! Flcelloguy (A note? ) 04:20, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

GurchBot 2 messed up our archives
moved all archives with non-standard names to standarized names. E.g. changing "Archive12" to "Archive 12" and leaving a redirect behind. By so doing, GurchBot 2 has messed up the archives at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics and probably many others which use Werdnabot to archive their talk pages. It did not change the Werdnabot invocations to show the new file name for the current archive so Werdnabot added the archived material to the redirects which were left behind. Also, a minor point, GurchBot 2 did not change the archive lists to point at the new file names so they are now all going thru the redirects. This is a real mess. JRSpriggs 05:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I have repaired this problem for the Mathematics Project and for the Physics Project, but the others will have to fend for themselves. I adjusted their Werdnbot invocations and lists of archive file names to reflect the new names given to the files by GurchBot 2. JRSpriggs 05:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Apparently, Werdna's own archive escaped this terrible fate because he did not use the "talkarchive" template which is what GurchBot 2 was keying off of. JRSpriggs 05:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's hardly a "terrible" fate; change one link and it's fixed. Werdna's archives were not affected because I didn't move User Talk archives, only Talk and Wikipedia archives. If you have archives of your own, you'll notice they weren't affected either. I knew there weren't any Talk archives being archived by Werdnabot; I intended to fix the small number of Werdnabot directives on Wikipedia Talk archives soon after the bot had finished, but other things interrupted me (e.g. Christmas). The bot didn't change the archive lists because the wide range of different styles of such lists make such a thing almost impossible to automate. To be honest, I don't see the problem with the lists pointing to redirects, as they still take you to the right page. I didn't think it worth writing a bot to change the Werdnabot directives as it would take longer to write such a bot as it will to fix them myself. Werdna, you've done nothing wrong and I'm sorry that this got brought up here – Gurch 16:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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Werdnabot on User talk:Chacor
Hey Werdna, could you have a look at your bot/my talk page? It's archiving sections to my archive, but not editing my main talk page to remove the archived sections. – Chacor 06:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Interestingly it just did that, a whole day late... – Chacor 16:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject_League_of_Copyeditors
Hi there. I'm a member of this WikiProject, and we were wondering whether Werdnabot would be able to automatically archive the stuff in the "Articles proofread" section to our archive subpage. If not, do you know of any other bots that might be able to do so? Many thanks! Gzkn 14:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I believe that Werdnabot could archive Wikipedia talk:WikiProject League of Copyeditors for you since it is a talk page. But not WikiProject League of Copyeditors or any restricted portion of a page. (Do not count on getting a reply from Werdna himself; he is very busy.) JRSpriggs 05:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, all right. Many thanks. Gzkn 08:24, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

???
my talk paage hasn't been archived at all... is there something wrong with the bot? Xiad e  n  15:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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Dang. Busted again.
Werdnabot seems to be broken again. It has not done any archiving (for anyone) since 24 October 2006. Just as I was trying to get it to work for Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics, too. JRSpriggs 07:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Its not for article talk pages. It is for user talk pages. I put it up today and it hasn't worked on my talk yet. Maybe something is wrong.-- HamedogTalk|@ 09:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You need to read this discussion. The bot was being abused. --Squilibob 01:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, we know. It has been working again for several days now, but only running once per day instead of four times per day. JRSpriggs 10:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * When does it archive? I've seen the effects but not it actually doing it.  I want to "prepare" before it archives. Randfan 01:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Please tell me here and on my discussion page. Randfan 01:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

See Werdnabot (talk • contribs • [ page moves ] • block user • [ block log ]). If you look at its contributions, you will see that it starts about 10:08 and finishes about 10:30 in recent days. JRSpriggs 09:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Randfan 15:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance)/Archive
Your recent edit to Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance)/Archive (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 15:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow, a bot "talking" to a bot... What will they think of next? :)  That is funny!  12.147.209.66 17:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * LOL! The Duke of Werdnabot 06:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Didn't something like this also happen to Mathbot? --AAA! (AAAA • AAAAAAAA ) 01:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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Has Werdnabot broken down again?
Werdnabot did not run on Wednesday, 29 November 2006 nor on Thursday, 30 November 2006. What is the problem? JRSpriggs 06:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know but I noticed that, too. It also didn't archive my talk page when it should have for two or three days before.  Why is it so faulty recently?  &mdash; ¡ Rand  fan  !  20:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It ran on 1 December 2006. Your talk page is so complex that I would not want to try to diagnose your problem. However, you might try removing your Werdnabot invokation and then re-installing it from scratch at the top of your page. Then give it enough time to do its thing -- I mean do not manually archive your page for several days and check Werdnabot's contributions at Special:Contributions/Werdnabot to see whether it is running for other people. It usually runs between 10:00 and 10:35. JRSpriggs 12:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, it hasn't made any archive edits in over a week (8 days). Obviously something isn't working.  Auburn Pilot talk 19:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I just blocked it because it's been malfunctioning. --Core desat  06:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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WikiProjects
Your bot is wiping the talk pages without archiving. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vancouver are just two examples. Mkdw talk 08:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Werdnabot is changing ALL ampersands in any file it touches to ampersand-"amp"-semicolon
Werdnabot is changing ALL ampersands in any file it touches to ampersand-"amp"-semicolon. For example, ampersand-"pi"-semicolon is changed to ampersand-"amp"-semicolon-"pi"-semicolon which does not have the same effect when processed by wiki-software. Please fix this MAJOR bug in Werdnabot. JRSpriggs 10:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yep. It screwed up several hundred pages. I'm writing a fix script as we speak, that should do a mass undo. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 13:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * All fixed. I'm running a test run now to see if the issue was resolved. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 00:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your quick work in fixing Werdnabot generally and this bug in particular. I should tell you that I did an edit at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics after Werdnabot messed up the ampersands but before you reverted those changes. Consequently, the mess at that article was not reverted by you. I just fixed it by reverting both of us (and restoring another subsequent edit by Uncle G). Forgot to use "undo", just used regular reversion. But the point is that there may be other talk pages where your reversion did not occurr because someone else did an intervening edit. Thanks again for Werdnabot, "undo" and all your good work. JRSpriggs 03:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This problem also occurred at User talk:Arthur Rubin, but I could not fix it there. JRSpriggs 07:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I told Arthur about it and he fixed it. JRSpriggs 06:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * But it's a bot... 76.188.7.83 02:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

GurchBot 2 messed up our archives
moved all archives with non-standard names to standarized names. E.g. changing "Archive12" to "Archive 12" and leaving a redirect behind. By so doing, GurchBot 2 has messed up the archives at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics and probably many others which use Werdnabot to archive their talk pages. It did not change the Werdnabot invocations to show the new file name for the current archive so Werdnabot added the archived material to the redirects which were left behind. Also, a minor point, GurchBot 2 did not change the archive lists to point at the new file names so they are now all going thru the redirects. This is a real mess. JRSpriggs 04:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I have repaired this problem for the Mathematics Project and for the Physics Project, but the others will have to fend for themselves. I adjusted their Werdnbot invocations and lists of archive file names to reflect the new names given to the files by GurchBot 2. JRSpriggs 04:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


 * According to Gurch (see User talk:Werdna), this problem has been fixed. JRSpriggs 04:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Help

 * I really want this bot, but I can't figure out how to install it because I don't even understand the archive template I've already got. I'm utter crap at this stuff. If some kind soul could help me out, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you. NinaEliza (talk • contribs • [ logs ] ) 20:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. JRSpriggs 04:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you:).NinaEliza (talk • contribs • [ logs ] ) 05:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Possible error
Not sure how big of an issue this may be, but Werdnabot archived too many sections on my talk page today. It should archive comments every 31 days (On or before Dec. 1, 2006 as of today). This would have it archive 2 or 3 sections. Instead, the bot archived 9 sections dating up to Dec 4, 2006. . On User talk:WikiMan53, Werdnabot archived 33 sections here, when it should have only archived about half of that. I'm not too concerned over my own page, but it may cause problems elsewhere.  Auburn Pilot talk 16:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It may be that Werdnabot mistook the current date, thinking that January 1 was January 4 perhaps, thus messing up its calculations for which sections to archive for all users by perhaps 3 days. JRSpriggs 05:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Last years messages
My talk page messages are supposed to be archived 5 days after the last post in each section. However, as you can see in this edit and this edit, Werdnabot seems to be having trouble calculating the number of days from the last post when a new year begins. Now, only messages from January 1 and 2 are displayed on my talk page, when it's supposed to show my messages from December 29, 30, 31 and January 1 and 2.-- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? Reviews? 19:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

bought it on ebay
Hi your bot isn't archiving the top thread in my talk page. I can't figure why. Anomo 21:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Your question
I posted a response, one which is already more bloated with beans than I like. Dragons flight 06:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright, then. If people feel I am too paranoid for this, they can kill the project, but I don't expect to change my position.  Dragons flight 07:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Bot archiving of VP archives
Werdna, for some reason Werdnabot isn't archiving the VP archives properly. (It is properly archiving the six subpages, WP:VPA, WP:VPP, etc.) It's just not moving things from the archives to Village pump/Archival dump. The pages are listed at the subpage exceptions page, so I'm not sure what the problem is. If it's not easy to solve, setting up permanent archives may be the way to go. Let me know what you think.--Kchase T 11:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome back Werdna bot
Ah, it's good to have a bot running around after me again. Thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 09:29 14 December 2006 (GMT).

cascading protections
I've got a quick question... If I randomly run across a protected template will I be able to find out where the protection is coming from? Will there be some kind of indication? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. &mdash; Werdna talk 11:15, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Requests_for_adminship/ProtectionBot
Thank you very much for your contributions to making things less vandalprone around here. ++Lar: t/c 16:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Seconded, the MediaWiki patch seems like a great way forwards. Many thanks and congrats. WJBscribe (WJB talk) 10:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Moved above from Werdnabot's talk page
Since Werdnabot was not moving these sections here as it should. I take the liberty of moving them myself. JRSpriggs 11:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

July
Hi! This does not work correct: mediawiki makes January 01, but your bot makes it 1, see Bryan 15:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Werdnabot messages
Hi! I was going through your talk page history and noticed that Werdnabot archived 12 messages. These messages were left on User talk:Werdnabot for a long time, which had to be archived manually to this page. I just want to bring these to your attention, in case you haven't read these messages yet.-- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? Reviews? 17:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * There seemed to be a problem when you set Werdnabot's archiving age to "0". I changed the age to "1", if you don't mind.-- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? Reviews? 17:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Werdnabot on Huwiki
Hi! I'm Dami talk from the Hungarian Wikipedia, where we don't have any automated solution for archiving. Recently I suggested there that we should have one, and I would like to ask your help to set up a clone of your bot on huwiki. If you would be willing to help, could you please provide the source code for Werdnabot or open an account on the Hungarian WP. Either way your help would be much apreciated. Please answer me on my Hungarian talk page--Dami 17:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi! Thanks for your answer (it was especially pleasing that you translated it, though it was really uneccesary). I'll be glad to localise the interface, and maybe a basic help (I am short a bit on free time...). After that if I announce it  on the local Village Pump I think your services would be much apreciated. I don't know if you have any other projects, but if you think any of them would be beneficial to other WP communities I would be glad to help in localising them. Please answer me on my Hungarian talk page --Dami 20:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi! Thanks, I'll start working on the translations, and hope to finish them by the end of this week. Meanwhile could you give an explanation to 's function (I'm not totally at home with regex, but if I know what it does, I can ask somebody to localise it), and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Werdnabot/Interface/Boilerplate and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Linkhere seem to be empty pages ::(.--Dami 16:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi again! I see now that the linkhere has text in its source.
 * I'd like to ask you, what is the functions of the Months page, and the abbreviations there, where do they appear?
 * --Dami 18:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi. I finished translating the pages you sent me, (they're linked to from here: ). I didn't translate the boilerplate as the link you gave is to an empty page :(, and also I didn't translate the Timestampsregex, because I think it can be left in English until I see where does it come up.
 * All that being said, I would like to start working on translating the templates at the top of the userpage (hopefully without breaking your bot's template detection...) and if there are any other help pages about the stuff like  , and what to do with unsigned comments etc. And thanks again for the work you put into the internationalisation of your bot --Dami 18:51, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The only thing that can't be translated is the tags starting with . The rest can be translated. As for the timestampregex, this is a Regular expression for the way timestamps are shown on your wiki.

Hi! I sent you an e-mail, and repeat it here in case you didn't get it: I'm complete with the translation, they are here :, (in the right column), they just need to be moved or copied to the right place. Regards--Dami 21:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi again! Could you please give me an update on the Werdnabot situation on huwiki? Thanks--Dami 21:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also I saw on your meta talk page, that there are some new strings to be localised for huwiki. Please don't hesitate to contact me for their translation. Regards--Dami 21:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I copied all the interface messages under hu:User:Werdnabot in the same place as on the English original. I have placed the template with substitution on my talk page. Please do a test run, and if everythings okay, I'll start propagating it on the Hungarian Village Pump. Thanks for your help--Dami 10:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I know your busy Could you please start the bot on huwiki. Currently only I am using the template (hu:User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Linkhere, but if the bot was running I would recommend it to others as well, and I believe it would be a great success.--Dami 17:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC) Thank you so much!! Your bot is working. Is it on a shedule now, or was this a test run? Can I start advertising it? Thanks again! Have a nice day.--Dami 15:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I might have been a bit over enthusiastic. Unfortunately somethings wrong with the date recognizing part. The order in Hungarian is reversed: If its using this as a regex:

(\d{4})\.\s([a-záúó]+)\s(\d{1,2})\.,\s(\d{2}):(\d{2})

Then the third is the day as in (26th), the second is the monthname (as in hu:User:Werdnabot/Interface/Months starting from "január" are the month names in order that refer to january, february etc.), the first is the year, and the last two are the hours and minutes followed by "(CET)" or "(CEST)", the time zone that is not included in this regex.--Dami 15:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi! The regex still doesn't seem to work :( Also, for some reason it gets the target page wrong, maybe because there is a space or "_" in it?
 * This was originally the order for your bot: (Note the space between the "currentyear." and "currentmonthname") it archived to User vita:Bdamokos/Archív/2024. instead of User vita:Bdamokos/Archív/2024. July
 * So, I changed the configuration, to this: (Note the underscore) and it archived to User vita:Bdamokos/Archív/2024. again

Is this a known bug, should I not use spaces in the target? Anyway, the first problem with the regex and dates is more pressing...--Dami 18:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Allright, sorry for the previous post, I see the problem now with the target. --Dami 18:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC) Now I don't again :( Please take a look at http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_vita:Bdamokos&action=edit . Thanks--Dami 18:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up
Did you just say that cascading auto-confirmed protection will full protect the included templates? That doesn't sound right, or did I misunderstand?

Vandalism against templates lasts longer because it doesn't appear on watchlists and is harder to find. Once this kind of attack became a routine, daily occurence, people just started protecting them in advance given that the templates are usually sufficient stable that they don't attract any legitimate edits.

I think my biggest concern with your code isn't that it doesn't work right (though obviously people will make sure it does), but rather that the servers operate close enough to the limit of their capacity that anything that adds to the number of database calls per page load could be a significant load issue when deployed at scale. Hopefully you've optimized to the minimum that is necessary to perform the task. Dragons flight 18:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, does it unprotect templates once they've left sensitive areas? Does it at least add the protected templates to a category so others can tidy up after it if needed? Note that not all templates should be unprotected once they leave the sensitive area, some need to remain protected as they are high-risk templates. Carcharoth 18:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I've been working with Tim Starling and Domas &mdash; they're highly experienced in trying to get the maximum performance out of my code, and we've already optimised a lot. Trust me, the patch will not be committed without ensuring that it will not cost the foundation a few gazillion dollars in hardware. &mdash; Werdna talk 20:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I've always known that. It is just a matter of how quickly ensuring that will actually happen.  Dragons flight 20:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

What will happen if a sysop places a Commons image on the main page without first uploading it to Wikipedia? Will it still be protected? &mdash;David Levy 22:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The commons image cannot be protected, as it is on another wiki. I can't really think of a tech solution for that, so I suppose that's where the bot can come in. &mdash; Werdna talk 23:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I realize that the Commons image itself can't literally be protected, but might it be possible to automatically protect the cached file appearing on the page? If not, here's what I recommend:
 * Disallow attempts to save a page with cascading protection (or apply cascading protection) if any images are transcluded from the Commons. Have this result in a message advising the sysop to upload the image to Wikipedia.  Similarly, have the attempted deletion of an image appearing on the page result in a message advising the sysop to first remove the offending transclusion.  &mdash;David Levy 23:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Ooh. Good point. If an image link was somehow hidden in a page and the image didn't exist yet (nothing uploaded to that name), would the system then protect whatever image was uploaded to 'fill' the redlink? I think that is the converse of the situation you are describing, David. Carcharoth 00:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


 * ie. (I think), get the Mediawiki coding solution to protect redlinks as well, if it doesn't already. Carcharoth 00:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello again. Are any of my above suggestions feasible?  &mdash;David Levy 12:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Can anyone reading this have a look at the human oversight considerations and consider which are still problems under the Mediawiki coding solution (what to call it? R19095?). I think the only one that doesn't change is "No-one watching Main Page/Tomorrow for vandalism". I assume the procedure would be to apply cascading protection to Main Page/Tomorrow so that protection of the rotating templates kicks in a day in advance, and then the page can be checked during the day for previously undetected vandalism that may have been inserted days in advance, and the page can then be passed as OK to go live. (The alternative of allowing cascading protection to kick in at the switchover means vandals could spot an unprotected template and wait until just before the switch-over before they strike.) I've made Main Page/Tomorrow my Wikipedia bookmark - can I suggest others do this as well? I also suggest a protected checkpage that admins (to prevent vandals doing it) can change to confirm that Main Page/Tomorrow has been passed as OK (turning a red button green), a page that automatically changes back to red when the day changes, and which is permanently transcluded at WP:AN? Or can the developers think of an easier way to have an automatically daily-resetting button that admins can press to say Main Page/Tomorrow is OK to go live? Carcharoth 00:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Werdna
My Werdnabot isn't Werdna-ing. I've had it for something like two weeks and it hasn't archived anything. Do you know what's wrong? Thanks, NinaOdell | Talk 20:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * To NinaOdell: You are mistaken. Werdnabot has archived 44 sections from your talk page to User talk:NinaOdell/Archive 1 as of 13 January 2007 (you did another 5 yourself). And four of them were done on 13 January itself. If you have a problem with one or two sections not being archived because they lack proper time-stamps, you can just add a time-stamp to them with five tildas . Or alternatively, you can put a comment in the section containing "werdnabot" hyphen "archive", and that section will be archived on Werdnabot's next run (see Werdna's instructions for the exact format). If you want sections archived more quickly, reduce the "age" parameter from 7 to whatever number of days you like in both places where it appears in your Werdnabot invocation. JRSpriggs 11:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sorry. I figured that out last night, then got sleepy and went to bed. I appreciate the detailed instructions. I had no idea that I had accumulated that much. Thanks again for the helpful reply (Hi Werdna!), NinaOdell | Talk 12:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I see what your problem is now. You were expecting Werdnabot to create a pointer to the file it is currently archiving in your archive box. That is not part of its functionality. I moved the pointer you created into your archive box for you. In the future when you switch to a new archive file, just add a new pointer just below the one I just moved for you. JRSpriggs 03:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * P.S. You can also get to your current archive file by clicking on the blue link in the message box created by your Werdnabot invocation. JRSpriggs 03:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I was just confused all over - in truth, I should have read the page before I asked for it. It's exactly what I want. I was thinking I would have to archive manually - that's why that new archive is there. I'm going to delete it. Thanks JR. NinaOdell | Talk 04:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Start Werdnabot on french WP
Hello,

I've been interested in the functionnality of your bot & tried to translate most of what I could understand: ... apparently the bot still waits for something else, since my page was not archived, but I can't see what. Can you help me debug this? Do you need the password of user:Werdnabot to make it operate on fr:WP?
 * Create a fr:Utilisateur:Werdnabot & subpages (the list is in the main page).
 * Translate the pages & subpages to some local idiom.
 * Figure out if (d{1,2})\s([a-zA-Zéû]+)\s(\d{4})\sà\s\(d{1,2}):(\d{2}) represents the time stamp in french (?) I don'know anything about regular expressions, sorry. The typical format is 10 janvier 2007 à 05:30 (CET)
 * Insert a line here to point to fr:Wikipédia.
 * Insert a werdnabot tag in my talk page.

I can be reached at fr:utilisateur:Michelet. 06:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Your bot still not archiving
An old thread from december on my talk page is still not being archived even after you tried something on it. Anomo 00:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * OK. I changed the "=" in the section's title to "equals". I think that the extra "=" might be confusing the bot. Let us see whether that works. JRSpriggs 04:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I see that the result of my experiment was success. The offending section has now been archived, and no other changes occurred on your talk page which could account for why it was archived on 15 January but not on 14 January. JRSpriggs 04:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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Commons Werdnabot
I can't get Werdnabot to archive Commons:Village Pump and I don't know what I did wrong! I can't find the logs or anything.... Bastiq ▼ e demandez 16:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Help desk -Archiving sections older than 7 on Commons:Help desk to Commons:Help desk archive/2007Jan, dounreplied=

Archiving to a different target (Commons\:Help\ desk -> Commons:Help desk archive/2007Jan). Disallowing archival

Commons:Village pump -Archiving sections older than 7 on Commons:Village pump to Village pump archive/2007Jan, dounreplied=

Archiving to a different target (Commons\:Village\ pump -> Village pump archive/2007Jan). Disallowing archival Add them to User:Werdnabot/Subpage Exceptions, as noted on The Werdnabot Wiki. &mdash; Werdna talk 01:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

This didn't appear to work; however, those should be on subpages anyway. I'm moving the archives to subpages. Bastiq ▼ e demandez 15:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Archive problems
I'm not sure if the problem is me or the program, but my talk page isn't being archived. Would you mind taking a look and see if I placed the code correctly. Thanks. Veracious Rey   talk  •  contribs  •  review   02:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Werdna changed the effective name of the target archive file to the correct name. I changed the effective age to the correct value. It should archive some sections from your talk page Friday. If not, let us know. JRSpriggs 04:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Apparently, Werdna ran the bot earlier than usual today. It has already archived your page. JRSpriggs 08:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Page protection bug in Werdnabot
Again a run of Werdnabot has been stopped by a user who put page protection on his archive. I reverted Werdnabot's edit of his talk page. Is there some way you can modify the bot to detect page protection and skip archiving such a user, going on to the next user? Of course, you would have to check for protection of the archive before you remove the sections to be archived from the user's talk page. JRSpriggs 08:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Ohoh... Tubby use pudding machine...
Maybe I should have asked, before I did this: . Sorry, if I damaged something... I just tried to sort the user-talk-pages by user name, which I accomplished... :-) --Homer Landskirty 16:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. It doesn't hurt anything. &mdash; Werdna talk 02:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * :-) --Homer Landskirty 02:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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