User talk:Werdna/Archive/Archive-Oct2006

Just looking for some help
Hey, is there a way to get the bot to leave my "status" on my discussion page after it archives. I am not sure if i set this up correctly, but here is a link to my current page: My talk. Thanks in advance for any help. --Tecmobowl 05:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. You kept the brackets around the target and age, which you shouldn't do. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 08:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Aussie Pollie Stubs
I am very concerned about the recent deletion of around 50 stubs on Australian politicians. These articles lay the foundation for what Wikipedia will one day be..."a multilingual free encyclopedia of the highest possible quality to every single person on the planet in their own language" (Jimmy Wales). This however will not happen overnight. I draw parallels to my own project on Central Coast, New South Wales articles. 90% of the suburbs are stubs. But these stubs encourage anyone to edit. Even trivial information has a place on Wikipedia. It should not worry YOU if the articles contained very little information, but you should be happy that the articles had information. In many cases these articles only needed an infobox and they would have been reasonably adequate. In closing I ask anyone who has supported their deletion, that you reconsider your vote by visiting this page: Deletion review/Log/2006 September 30 Todd661 10:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Please don't spam talk pages. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 10:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry I spammed your talk page. But when I came across these deletions I got pretty worked up. I am sure you have considered you vote, but the large majority supporting the deletions wanted me to make sure an alternative opion was presented. I do thank you for not deleting my spam like some other editors, and have now debolded it, because I know that haveing that message standing out on my talk page would bother me. Todd661 10:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's okay, it's a relatively common mistake. You should be aware that it is, however, irritating. This section will be archived on the next Werdnabot archive run. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 10:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It was no mistake. I meant to do it. That doesn't mean I'm not sorry I did it. Todd661 10:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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Possible Werdnabot glitch?
This edit by Werdnabot seems to have prematurely archived my answer to a Help Desk question (check the very bottom of the diff), without archiving the question itself. Is this something to do with the content of my comment? --ais523 08:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * How... odd. I shall take a squizz at it later on. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 09:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Come to think of it, given the timings it's quite possible that the bot was edit-conflicted (the Help Desk is quite large and can take a while to load); it may be that you haven't seen this before because bots hardly ever get caught in edit conflicts (as they load a page and re-edit it so quickly). --ais523 09:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Check the timestamps, I'd say that's likely. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 10:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

American school
Hey Andrew, thanks for your message. When I was doing my RfA thank you notes, I got terribly sidetracked by reading userpages and I actually did notice that you were born in California and came to Australia at a young age. I went to school in Indiana and graduated from Year 12 there. I really loved it and heaps of fun. :)

Thanks for your congrats on my RfA. I still can't get my head around the fact that many people supported me. I'll take a look at the RFA as RFC page and give it some thought. I agree RfA needs to be reformed, but I'm really not sure what is the best option. :/ Cheers mate, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Circular Werdnabot
Hi, I've been trying to get Werdnabot to archive my page. In debugging, I found that Werdnabot seemed to have stopped on User talk:MSTCrow/Archive 3?

Starting archive job at 08:00 (UTC). Running archive job on 118 pages. [...] Archiving page User talk:MSTCrow/Archive 3. Getting wikitext.. -Syntax error in Werdnabot directive. Not archiving page. [EndOfFile]

Probably because the page in question was trying to archive onto itself? Regards, Ben Aveling 00:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That's not the issue. The issue is that I've been out of town, and not been running Werdnabot. The debugging page hasn't been updated for quite some time now. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 08:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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Werdnabot Config
Thanks for your help the other day. So i guess now my question is, it's clearly archiving the information, but i don't know where it's going... could you help me out when you have a second? --Tecmobowl 08:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Werdna/RfSJBTWHNBTDTJPOR
Your recently created redirect threatens to destroy the universe with its recursiveness. ;) Danny Lilithborne 10:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Or at least use up a shitload of hard drive space ;-) &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 10:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Werdnabot thingie

 * Werdnabot doesn;t seem to be auto-archiving my talk page even though I think I followed the instructions to the letter. Could you please help me? Thank you.Hkelkar 13:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks..but a little help please
Could you take a look at my page and tell me if I did something wrong. It should have archived my page by now. Thanks, I do appreciate it. Jasper23 17:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 17:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Three minutes later. Thanks a million Werdna. Jasper23 17:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

About Werdnabot
How do I correctly program the bot to archive my User talk page? 24.7.217.221 18:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Archive listbox templates
I moved both halves of this thread to User:John Reid/arboxes. Fragmented talk threads is one of my pet peeves. I continue the discussion there. Thank you. John Reid 11:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Werdnabot on the commons
At the commons we are looking for a bot to automate the archivals, would it be possible for you to run Wednabot on the commons. Lcarsdata (Talk) 19:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep. If you can get me approval, I'll copy over the necessary stuff and have it working within a couple of hours. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 00:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot
I've responded to Splash's criticisms under my support vote at #49 (I think) - I've suggested adding a commitment from yourself and tawker that the bot be added to CAT:AOR, so the community can clip it's wings quickly if necessary - this might give the community some more comfort about what they appear to be seeing as the "thin end of a wedge". Perhaps you might consider this?--Mcginnly | Natter 15:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * If you wouldn't mind, I'd really like a response to the above. Thanks --Mcginnly | Natter 08:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The bot is already in CAT:AOR. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 08:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA Bot
I wanted to let you know I'm activly campaigning against this now. Please don't take it personally, or think that it means that I think you either can't cut code or that you're not trustworthy.

The issue is that the "problem-solution-execution" cycle has been much abused here. Let's be frank: You guys didn't even know how many blocks were going to be run. You've skipped right to the end, to the doing. Which is natural, since the planning and research are boring.

Regards, brenneman  {L} 00:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Use on wikiprojects?
Is there any problem with using Werdnabot on talk pages for wikiprojects? Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics sees a lot of conversations, but people rarely get around to archiving them, leading to rather long (~100-200kb) talk pages. I've yet to ask the project if they want the talk page automatically archiving; I thought it best to check with you first. Thanks. Mike Peel 11:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No probs. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 11:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Help please
I am sorry to bother you sir, but I am having a hardtime setting up my talk page to be archived by your bot. Can you please help me I would really apperciate it-- Sea dog  .M.S

I love torturing your little bot : P
An automated message from Werdnabot. Hi there, I tried to archive your user talk page, but it seems that you have an error in your Werdnabot directive that prevented me from correctly archiving your User talk page.


 * I don't think it likes the fact I split off the top of my talk page into a separate header template. If it's too tricky to get Werdnabot to process my talk page, perhaps, the bot should recognise Thanks. --   Netsnipe    07:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Apparently not. Move the directive back into your main user talk page. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 07:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The Real Harry Kewell
I am the real Harry Kewell weather you like it or not. You can believe what you want but I know that I am. Harry Kewell #10 03:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Godspeed Werdnabot!
If the first post in a thread (or maybe first several) don't have dates, Werdnabot doesn't archive the section. Anomo 09:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If no posts in a thread have no dates, it doesn't archive the section. This is expected behaviour. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 10:49, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Err I looked closer and they all were signed, just sort of had a weird layout. Please see the first thread on my talk page. Anomo 10:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

It worked!! Anomo 07:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

So what am i doing wrong now
On my talk page, I have somehow screwed up my archiving. I hate to be a bother, but it appears i am archiving the information, only i don't know where it is ending up. Let me know if you have a chance to look at it.
 * It's going here. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 23:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Werdnabot (irc) has flag
Hi. Per Ram-Man's final approval, I've granted Werdnabot (irc) a bot flag. Cheers, Redux 01:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I've approved your IRC bot. It has the flag and is ready to go. Have fun. -- RM 02:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Werdnabot
Hallo, your Werdnabot has now botstatus in german Wikipedia. -- sk

Werdnabot
Werdnabot is running way too often and generating all sorts of false "new messages" banners for me. Why does it need to be run every few hours? Archiving isn't that important. Could you please reduce the speed to something more reasonable, like maybe once a day? -- Cyde Weys 23:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. — Omegatron 02:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Werdnabot has been changed to run once per day. Thanks for the feedback. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 03:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Werdna Sandbox Bot
I've tried to tell Essjay, but he hasn't been around in a while... Sandbot, the regular cleaner of the Sandbox, is working again, and has been for some time. Essjaybot was only filling in for Sandbot, so now that Sandbot is working, Essjaybot isn't necessary, nor is Werdna Sandbox Bot, once the manual reset link in the sandbox header is set back to that for Sandbot. Thanks. Timrem 02:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Werdna sandbox bot has been disabled. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 03:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Include a link
Your edit summary says "Automated archival of 1 sections to User talk:Omegatron/Archive/October, 2006", but you should really be saying "Automated archival of 1 sections to User talk:Omegatron/Archive/October, 2006" — Omegatron 01:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This has been implemented. Thanks for the feedback. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 03:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Permission to post IRC log
Hi there, I don't know if you've seen the discussions at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and elsewhere but I seem to have pissed some people off - ironically in one of the first times I've used IRC. User:Malangali asked in #wikipedia-en on Thursday about the Diane Farrell article and you responded. After you left I continued to discuss it with him, and he later provided significant evidence of notability on my talk page. After checking it out and considering the situation (and that the two previous speedies were out of process) I restored the article. I was just wondering if I could have your permission to post the log somewhere on wiki to prove that nothing underhanded went on, that I did not decide then and there on IRC, and to set some people's minds at rest. the wub "?!"  12:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. I don't care. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 12:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. the wub "?!"  12:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Werdnabot rampage
Sorry to bear bad news. This probably wasn't what it was supposed to do: Notinasnaid 15:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I just turned up here to report that exact same diff! I don't think it was an edit conflict this time; the bot's archiving posts that are well within the cutoff (3 days at present on the Help Desk). --ais523 15:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Blocked
I just blocked Werdnabot for an hour, since it seemed faster than figuring out what was going on with it and whether whatever it's doing had been fixed. It did the wrong thing on my talk page and (from a brief look at other pages) it looks like i'm not the only one. -- SCZenz 15:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * It runs archive jobs at regular intervals, so if it starts up again and it's still not fixed, block it indefinitely until Werdna fixes it – Gurch 15:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll indef block it anyway if I don't hear from Werdna that it's fixed within the hour. Better safe than sorry. -- SCZenz 15:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Your bot has malfunctioned
It just archived 14 sections on my talk page (basically everything that was on there). Only 2 of those sections should actually have been archived. Diff is here. It has been blocked (not by me) – Gurch 15:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Did it to me also: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AzaToth&diff=82010860&oldid=81877332 → A z a  Toth 15:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Note also that we can't easily revert the edits that Werdnabot has made - for many archive pages Werdnabot is the only contributor so rollback won't work, so it will have to be done the slow way. I suggest you come up with something – Gurch 15:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Funny. I changed my settings today, and thought I must have boo-bood when I saw that the bot had archived almost everything. Oh well. Get soon Werdnabot! --kingboyk 17:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Seems it ran amuck for all of us :-( --Scott Davis Talk 22:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Blocking bot indefinitely
Having seen the note at the top of the page, that Werdna is (mostly) on Wikibreak, I've emailed him and set the block of the bot to indefinite. It can be unblocked once we hear from him. -- SCZenz 15:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, technically, Gurch seems to have beaten me to the actual blocking. ;) -- SCZenz 16:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And the emailing, for that matter :D. Oh well, three emails are better than one – Gurch 16:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused.
I set Werdnabot to archive after 130 days, but it archived everything up until today? — Omegatron 16:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * See above. → A z a  Toth 16:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Wang Laboratories
Bot set for 21 days. Archived a 13 October section. Please check history and fix malfunction. This bot is important, so please fix it. Fiddle Faddle 07:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * See the preceding five sections on this page (above the Signpost); there was a problem with the bot and Werdna isn't actively editing here, so it took him a while to realise. The problem has apparently now been fixed – Gurch 09:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Please get this fixed
There is a HUGE page that takes too long to load at Esperanza/CL and is automatically archived by Werdnabot. Please fix this ASAP, as archiving is a VERY tedious task.-- E dI'm lonely, talk to me contribs 02:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Harry Kewell 14
I believe you blocked Harry Kewell 14 for impersonating himself.

If so please leave a comment on my talk page. Harold Kewell 09:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it appropriate for a third party to make a note on your /Review page that this user has been blocked as well? Or would you rather leave it complaint-only, which might give certain problem users undue weight (my phrase for the day, apparently)? -- nae'blis 15:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

WerdnaBot.
Hi, Werdna. I've noticed that your bot is always archiving old messages in other user's talk page. Is your bot only artiving admin's user page? I'm so curious about your bot on archiving messages. So, Please respond in my talk pages. Best Regards. Daniel5127 (Talk) 04:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Help
Werdna, user:Mig11 is attacking me on my talk page in albanian language. Please stop this or do something to block that person. Thank you. --Aeternus 11:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Aeternus attacked me first, by using very offensive terms. He does not like my taste of music and that is for him a reason to block me! he deleted the discuscion on his talk page, because his own words (in albanian) are offensive and a try to insult me! I for myself didn`t delete anything, because i do not have anything to hide, as you can see on my talk page! just because I was once blocked (for the first time in wiki, because of the 3rr-rule, in one totaly other issue than music) he thinks that he can block me whenever he likes that. that is what he wrote in albanian in my talk-page! he is spreading negativ propaganda in other user pages about me and my taste of music! this is unbeliveable! I hope you can judge this issue neutral. Thank you.--Mig11 11:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Werdna is on a Wikibreak (meaning he is taking some time off from the site), and in any event he is not an administrator (at least not yet). I think that you will both have to ask someone else to help you. (By the way, I'm not an administrator either.) Newyorkbrad 03:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Your bot
Do you suppose you could teach your bot to remove topics over 7 days old from the reference desk? and dump them on their various monthly archive pages? This isn't the way that the RD is currently archived, but it might serve as a bandaid to keep page sizes down until a more custom bot is completed. Is this possible?--172.168.185.155 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In fact, comment here if possible--172.168.185.155 00:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * On second thought, our bot is supposed to be ready soon, so it probably won't be nessesary--172.168.185.155 00:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, missed the tag on the top of the page, nevermind then--172.168.185.155 00:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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Suggestion: an "archive me" tag
Just a thought: often, I'll see a thread that is pretty obviously resolved ("Can you fix this for me?" "Cool, thanks"). Would you ever consider creating a commented out keyphrase that would cause Werdnabot to archive a thread early? --InShaneee 00:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Already exists.  138.130.165.178 11:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)