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Welcome note
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Notability of Streetwize (jazz band)
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AfD nomination of Lee Mulhern
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Speedy deletion of Lee Mulhern
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Statewide
Please read WP:MUSIC and tell me how you think Statewide meets the notability guidelines for bands and musicians. Just saying "They have appeared in a number of events live (UK, Ireland, Europe) and an album is in the making." and including a video link isn't enough. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Desert Heat (band)
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re: "incomplete list"
I'm not sure where you intended to post this comment but is does not appear to be at all relevant to the template page where you posted it. I have reverted that edit in the hope that you can find the correct page. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 04:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your assistance. I have reposted it on the proper talk section of the article actually werldwayd (talk) 05:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Armenians in Italy
Thanks for your work on the page Armenians in Italy. Dzhugashvili (talk) 11:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Demographics of Nagorno-Karabakh
Hi. Re this article you split out, surely it would be better titled "Demographics of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic", or have I misunderstood what it's supposed to be about ? CultureDrone (talk) 14:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You are absolutely right. These are current data of population of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, not the region of Nagorno-Karabakh. I have implemented the change exactly as you suggested werldwayd (talk) 08:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Arev Armenian Folk Ensemble
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January 2009
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Speedy deletion of Imposs
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Unconstructive
How are my contributions unconstructive?Guitarmasta666 (talk) 14:13, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Phil Vassar
Please don't demolish the article's intro. An intro is supposed to be more than two sentences long. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 18:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Kristyan Ferrer
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AfD nomination of Kristyan Ferrer
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 * That's fair enough. I'll certainly abide by what the concensus decides on the article. (cheerfully so!) --mhking (talk) 15:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Hagop Kassarjian
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Cheb Mami
Hey, thanks for cleaning up and adding to the Cheb Mami article, it looks great!Fuzbaby (talk) 16:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Courtesy notification
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 * Might you consider adding the award and cite to the article? And what do you think about removing the "Commercials" sectiion entirely, as it does not seem useful to the overall notability... unless one of them has won an award. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 21:15, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Steven Hilliard Stern
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Categories
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Blaine Larsen
You can't use a CD cover in Infobox musical artist. It generally has to be a free image, especially if it's a living person. Non-free images are only acceptable in biographical infoboxes if it's a deceased person (see Dan Seals) or disestablished band (see McBride & the Ride). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Adam Lambert straw poll on including/removing "Order #" and "Results" columns from the performances section
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Articles for deletion nomination of Naked Rugby League
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re:Illinois high school boys basketball championship
Greetings Werldwayd!

I noticed that you removed Category:Basketball tag from this article. It certainly seems if was removed by an editor who knows what they are doing. could you explain to me why this article does not belong in this category? I ask so that I may avoid doing such things in the future. Any help would be appreciated. LonelyBeacon (talk) 01:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have responded to you on your own talk page werldwayd (talk) 06:05, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Werldwayd,
 * I greatly appreciate your explanation. Not being affiliated with the basketball project that you are, I certainly did not have the background to make that assessment the way you could.  You have my word that I will certainly not re-add it, and should I come across similar articles in the future, I will not add the category there.
 * Just for the record ... this particular tournament is not a conference tournament, and there are not hundreds like it in the United States. The tournament involves in excess of 500 teams, with less than 50 states holding full state championships like this (some states only crown regional champions instead of state champions).  In the absence of a national tournament, this is generally the highest team honor American teams can achieve.  I doubt that makes a difference here (I'm more into school related articles than basketball, so I have no strong feelings on this).  Continued luck in your editing! LonelyBeacon (talk) 16:01, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Basketball Wales
Hi Werldwayd, please let me know your reason for removing from Basketball Wales. I only ask as you didn't include an edit summary. Depending on your response, I may have to make some changes to categories in similar articles I've created. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 07:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have responded to you on your talk page werldwayd (talk) 07:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi again, Thank you for your reply. I note that you have added to Basketball in Wales. Thank you for doing that. May I suggest that you include an Edit summary when making changes to articles, as it helps everyone to understand what has been changed, and why. Do you have any reason to inform me that "4-5 players from college had been categorized under the category of Category:Basketball and I removed those too, for these 4-5 basketball players were so minimal to basketball they cannot be mentioned either. If Jordan or Bird or Magic Johnson are not categorized there, can a player named Chavis Holmes or Kirk Walters ...". I have never heard of them, nor understand why you would wish to discuss them with me. Were they part of a copy and paste that do not relate to my query. Please let me know if you want me to do anything about it/them. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 08:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Ankur Vikal
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Articles for deletion nomination of Index of Gibraltar-related articles
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Proposed deletion of Tangram (book)


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Speedy deletion nomination of Cedar Revolution
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AfD nomination of Index of Lebanon-related articles
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AfD nomination of Boy (2009 film)
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AfD nomination of Bernd Dittrich
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AfD nomination of Nicholas McAnulty
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December 2009
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Stacey Solomon
Per "Redirect as there is concensus that non of the participants is notable" - I am not sure that there is that consensus. The opinion at Talk:List_of_The_X_Factor_finalists_(UK_series_6) seems to be (albeit sometimes grudgingly) that WP:MUSIC #9 applies to the top 3 finalists. Given that the independent article says nothing other than what is already at List_of_The_X_Factor_finalists_(UK_series_6) / The X Factor (UK series 6)‎ I personally cannot see justification for a separate article, but I don't know it can be argued against on the basis you did. I42 (talk) 19:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Jon and Tracy Morter
I've no problem with you mentioning Jon and Tracy Morter in the body of the article Killing in the Name it is just that the intro should summarize the article. I understand it is difficult to resist adding news details to the summary but we need to remember the article is all about the song by Rage Against the Machine and focus on that. (The link will probably have to go. I'd be surprised if the Jon and Tracy Morter article survives, the kind of no fun editors I've encountered wouldn't let that article last days. Most likely it will end up as a redirect back to Killing in the Name -- Horkana (talk) 02:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your sympathetic comment. I just cannot reinstate an entry over and over and I am of the rule of three-times reedits and refrain from that. I just hope some other colleague could pitch in with an entry for them if necessary. werldwayd (talk) 02:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of 7th Heaven (band)
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NPOV
I've partially reverted some of your changes to Abdulkareem Khadr, you have to be careful not to remove sourced information about him - and comments like this border on POV - you are rephrasing the innocent meeting of a 10-year old child with a man who would later become notorious as Osama bin Laden's #2...as "he even met with al-Qaeda leader..." - let's not pretend a 10-year old is exercising choice in who he does and doesn't meet. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 04:18, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Since I'm always ready to bitch when somebody makes an article worse or does an edit I consider unconstructive, I consider it only fair that I should now be obliged to come and thank you for the wikifying and linking to other articles you've done. (Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, etc) Good work on that front! However, I do think there's a certain POV inadvertantly created when you give a Canadian citizen born in Canada who speaks flawless English and was given an English name...and you put the name in Arabic in brackets as though that's the "real" name. He was named "Omar" not "عمر", etc. We don't do the same for Omar Epps for example. Also the fact their grandfather lived in Egypt is irrelevant to their introductions, per NAMES - "Ethnicity or sexuality should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities and/or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." - the fact he is "Canadian" is relevant, the fact his background heritage is Egyptian has never played a role in his notability. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 04:56, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually Omar Epps is not an Arab, thus "Omar" as in Omar Epps is markedly different from Omar as in Omar Khadr. The "O" in Omar Epps is the Latin letter O whereas the "O" in Omar Khadr is the Arabic letter "ayin". I would be very surprosed for example that they called him the Americanised Omar when naming him, but rather the Arabic عمر with a "ayn". I am sure this is true inside their family as well. Withouth Arabic, not only is his personal name mispronounced, but his family name as well. The Canadians continue caling him Kadr or Qadr, whereas his name is definitly not an Englsh K but an Arabic werldwayd (talk) 05:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * As far as ethnicity is concerned, an ordinary Canadian would not have been intersted at all in the time that the Khadrs were in Pakistan and Afghansitan. Believe it or not, their Arab ethnicity might have been one of the primary considerations because al Qaeda leadership is almost totally an Arab orgnaisation. All their announcements are in Arabic and its sympathizers mainly of the Arab World. So the Khadrs being Arab Muslims was a primary reason for their notability actually. werldwayd (talk) 05:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Only to those who speak Arabic, less than 1% of readers I'm sure, to the other 99% it gives the illusion he's somehow "less" Canadian and has a "secret foreign name", that he's really named عمر and not Omar. If you're concerned about pronunciation, I'd suggestion appending IPA for Arabic to the Khadr family article (though I doubt the individual biographies need it) instead. Per your final paragraph, it makes no sense and borders on extreme POVism - what language al-Qaeda releases its statements in is absolutely irrelevant to the spelling/appearance of the name of Canadians who followed their father overseas where he was alleged to have interacted with AQ. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 05:21, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Again we should not just be "worried" how general readers will perceive a certain presentation. Simply because you have a foreign sounding name doesn't "make you a lesser Canadian". That's preposterous. Canada is a multicultural country wth many ethnicities. Canada also encourages people to be open about their language and ethnicity and not hide it behind some "sanitized" English sounding name. Perceptions in minds of readers is not something we control or base our editing decisions on. werldwayd (talk) 05:27, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * As a direct result of our conversation, now Omar Khadr has also an Arabic page werldwayd (talk) 06:24, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Coffey Anderson
Werldwayd, do you have a reason for this? Drmies (talk) 02:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, Before, the article had good sections and was well-divided. After the re-edits, what happened was that all the text came in the intro, with no subsections, then every album went on to have a multiple subsection for a discography that usually should be just that, a listing of albums. It didn't look right to have no sections for bio, then to have four sub-sections for every release. I also reasoned in the edit explanation "Albums names in bold rather than separate sub-sections". Usually discography sections do not even contain tracklists anyhow. In this case, Anderson would have, just like every other artist, four lines (names of albums) and years, that's all... I think the way it looks now, is that the discography looks more like one entity as is  the case with all other artists. werldwayd (talk) 03:24, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. Drmies (talk) 05:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)