User talk:WhereisMaps

Speedy deletion nomination of User:WhereisMaps


A tag has been placed on User:WhereisMaps, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit |the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mean as custard (talk) 10:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

October 2011
Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended or used for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Please read the following carefully.

Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, celebrity or other well-known individual, or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements, and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but such groups are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.

Probably not. See WP:FAQ/Organizations for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, organization, or clients. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit again. Consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead.
 * Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?

You are still welcome to write about something other than your company, organization, or clients. If you do intend to make useful contributions on some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:
 * What can I do now?


 * Add the text on your user talk page.
 * Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
 * Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, please see how to appeal a block. Peridon (talk) 10:08, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

This page should not be speedy deleted because it is meant to be a neutral source of information.
This page should not be speedily deleted because the intention is NOT to use Wikipedia for advertising or promotional activities.

The article shall provide neutral information on a business and but unfortunately there seems to be a clash with Wikipedia guidelines.

I'd like to edit the content in order to come up with a site that looks comparable to other Wikis that contain company related information and would appreciate the opportunity to work on an updated version of this site. WhereisMaps (talk) 11:13, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If you mean 'page' rather than 'site', and 'article' rather than 'Wiki', I'm afraid the answer would be 'no' (which means 'no'). You won't get unblocked under that name as it appears to represent an organisation. There is also the problem of conflict of interest - WP:COI. This is about writing about you and yours. The majority of articles about companies are written by people from outside, and attempts by the companies to rewrite are fiercely resisted. You see, here you don't own an article. Anyone can edit it. I remember a case of a vanity article about a businessman that we were discussing deleting. We nearly did, until someone else added some material (well sourced in reliable places) that changed the whole thing. The subject then made a valiant attempt to get the article deleted. We kept it. You have to use a neutral tone WP:NPOV, provide reliable independent sources WP:RS, avoid all appearance of promotion (intentions don't count - we can't see them) WP:SPAM. In a case like this, there is usually a set of conditions including not writing about your own company that you have to agree to before unblocking for name change can happen. Don't think we are getting at you only - I blocked about a dozen similar accounts yesterday. And I'm only one out of at least 1500 active admins (OK, a lot of them work in other areas...). Have a think, and if you decide to ask for a name change, please do it at the bottom of the page. Makes our lives easier. Peridon (talk) 15:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello Peridon,

thanks for getting abck to me with some valuable feedback, as it looks like some of your guidelines have been overlooked when putting the information on wikipedia yesterday. If I get a new article written by a neutral source, that focuses on neutral information only: Would it be possible to keep this name?

Just been reviewing similar pages (i.e. Telstra) and was wondering if you'd agree if content like this would appear on the page.

Of course I'd agree to relevant guidelines and conditions in order to be able to provide content that is written in a neutral tone, provides reliable independent sources and avoid all appearance of promotion.

Please get back to me with your thoughts.

Thank you very much in advance for your feedback.

203.7.207.5 (talk) 22:40, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please sign in before posting - it makes our lives easier... You won't be able to keep this name - accounts must be for individuals and not appear to represent organisations. If a name is of an organisation, it's either representing it or impersonating, which isn't allowed. There are no objections to there being an article on WhereisMaps, provided it is neutral and reliably sourced to show notability. Not every company gets an article - there was one not long ago that was a profitable business, established quite a long time, employing quite a few people and totally unnotable. Why? Because they produced the own-brand stuff for certain supermarket chains and had never had their own brand, and outside their workforce, and the purchasing departments of their customers and the marketing departments of the companies that this one bought off (oh yes, and the Infernal Revenue), no-one had heard of them, discussed them or anything. Yet millions of people were opening their tins every day. You buy at Blogsco, get their garden peas, and do you know that exactly the same peas are in Smithco, Jonesco and Harrington & Patel tins? Do you care? Look around for the sources - if you can't find them (WP:RS) there's no point in anyone trying to write an article... Peridon (talk) 10:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)