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Please help me with...

can someone check my sandbox and tell me if it looks okWhispyhistory (talk) 18:31, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Whispyhistory, I've actually tagged the page for deletion based on being a large copyvio from []. While using info from a site is fine, you need to write the information in your own words, and not use information word from word from the source. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:10, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 23)
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Timothy Joseph Wood 18:52, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Pankaj Chandak
Hi there. I wanted to let you know that I've received feedback on my Talk page of the the DYK nomination of Pankaj Chandak which I submitted on your behalf. It reads as follows:


 * [[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of Pankaj Chandak at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 23:40, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

If you want this to proceed (and I do think it should), you will need to do a little more work on the article to meet the concerns. The main one is citations, supporting every single statement that you have made. I see you've changed the education section, and this is not now supported with references at all. I'm afraid this is a big 'no-no' for any biography of a living person, as all statements must be supported with citations, or removed. So, if you say he went to so-and-so school, you need to be able to prove this from reliable sources. You might have sat next to him in school for ten years, but unless you can point to reliable, independent references to support this, it simply has to not go in. If you could address the concerns raised here at the nomination's entry, and then go through, line by line to check that, not only are the statements true, but that they're also reference, this would be a great help. Ensure each award is supported by a citation, and remove the blank section on 'Postgraduate' - pointless to keep if there's nothing to put in it as yet.

The other issue mentioned is so-called copyright violation. This isn't much of an ussie as the reviewer doesn't seem to have spotted that most of the 'repeated words' are institutional names, award titles, or job titles. So, just go to the copyright violation checking tool, add the name to the page title search, box and look for the red-highlighted words in both columns, which show duplication. Most appear to me to be titles that can't be edited, as I had already had a go at removing closely paraphrased wordings. Just see what you can do to rewrite as many of these highlighted sentences or phrases as you can in your own words, then get back to me in the next few days and I'll see how you've got on, and can check it out and respond on the DYK nomination page. If these concerns aren't addressed, I'm afraid the DYK nomination process stops right there, which would be a real shame, I think. Regards Nick Moyes (talk) 07:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree that COPYVIO is minor. Just concentrated in Postgraduate Medical career section when compared to Business Cloud.co.uk. If it was more serious I would have blanked the section. I will considered long job titles and organization names when reevaluating.


 * Some sources to assist you:
 * https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/abs/10.2217/3dp-2016-0012
 * https://blog.sciencemuseum.org.uk/exploring-3d-printed-organs-in-the-medicine-galleries/
 * http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/national/14846028.Surgeons_replace_actors_in_The_Crown_operation_scene/
 * http://uk.pcmag.com/3d-printer-reviews/74743/news/3d-printed-models-help-docs-prep-for-toddlers-kidney-transpl
 * http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)30428-2/fulltext
 * About his father and role model: http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/cheshunt-gp-who-came-to-england-with-just-20-retires/story-30300932-detail/story.html


 * &mdash;አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 03:26, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, this is amazing. I will work on soon. How did you come across these? Whispyhistory (talk) 07:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Creative google searches like "Pankaj Chandak" "Worshipful Company". You could basically do the same with all his Universities and awards. &mdash;አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 08:15, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you again, check to see if I'm doing this correctly if you get chance.Whispyhistory (talk) 08:37, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Pankaj Chandak
Hello! Your submission of Pankaj Chandak at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The History of Medicine Society at The Royal Society of Medicine, London has been accepted
 The History of Medicine Society at The Royal Society of Medicine, London, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:42, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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A page you started (Pankaj Chandak) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating Pankaj Chandak, Whispyhistory!

Wikipedia editor Nick Moyes just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

"Lovely new article - a pleasure to read. Hope you'll consider submitting it for WP:DYK - you have a week for a new article to be eligible."

To reply, leave a comment on Nick Moyes's talk page.

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Nick Moyes (talk) 13:43, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely comment. There is still a lot more that can be added here. I will have a look at dyk article. Happy take advice any time. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I cannot thank you enough for your help already. Please could you check my amendments. I have deleted some information which I could not find good evidence for. I can't adjust the wording of awards. Somewhere was mentioned a problem with reference 7 (malaria paper). If so, check that paper's reference number 19. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:50, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, Whispyhistory. I think you've done a really great job! I've checked the article again (though not the individual references), and found a couple of words like "distinguished" and "notable" which I've taken out. (The reason is these are seen as non-neutral opinions - so called peacock words - and we leave the reader to decide how amazing they think something is, based just on the stated facts you present.) I fixed one typo and you'll see I left a follow up message on the DYK nomination page, asking for a follow-up review which, I suspect, will go OK. I think any feedback will come direct to me as 'nominator' so do 'watch' the page yourself, though I'll forward any feedback - just in case. Once we get through this, I'd be happy to suggest a couple of unusual ways and rewarding ways you might like to consider developing your medical history interests on Wikipedia and making more great content here. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:03, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thankyou and I look forward to your future guidance. I will continue to monitor this page and add accordingly. BW Whispyhistory (talk) 12:08, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Nick, how are you? Wondered whether you had looked over this DYK and some of the other work I've done. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:25, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm away on holiday at present. Back September. Sorry I can't check stuff right now. Not sure of the current status of your DYK. Will try and check it out when I can. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:22, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * thx..its out tomorrow. thank you so much. please check out my other workWhispyhistory (talk) 12:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Pankaj Chandak
Alex ShihTalk 01:03, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

History of Medicine Society
Please help me with...History of Medicine Society

I need to add references to the gallery of past presidents. All of them up to 1962 are referenced in reference number 6. How do I do this? Whispyhistory (talk) 12:08, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

HI, I've had a message to put inline citation on past presidents. All of them upto 1962 are confirmed in reference 6. How do I do this in 'edit source'Whispyhistory (talk) 13:27, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I see that you by using  - that's a template used after you have been helped, by the person who has helped you. To ask for help, use . But I think that what you need is covered by WP:NAMEDREFS. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:12, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thankyou. I'm trying to understand WP:NAMEDREFS Whispyhistory (talk) 12:11, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

History of Medicine Society on Wikidata
Hi Whispyhistory!

It was great meeting you at the Oxford meetup last Saturday. I realize I have made a mistake when creating the Wikidata item for History of Medicine Society. The inception date on Wikidata is wrong, because according to the article it was founded in 1912. There was probably a misunderstanding between us, the date you gave me probably referred to something else! Do you want to try to fix it? Let me know if you need any help for that.

Cheers, − Pintoch (talk) 17:52, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * hi Thank you. Your understanding is way better than mine. Is it something you can fix? Do you need me to answer any questions? I'm definitely going to next meet up in London. Otherwise, I'm ready now to fix.Whispyhistory (talk) 18:21, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I am sure you can do it yourself! You just need to go to the Wikidata item, click "edit" next to the inception date, enter the correct date, and hit "save". Let me know if anything is unclear. − Pintoch (talk) 19:20, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You are a good mentor. I think I've done it correctly.Whispyhistory (talk) 20:57, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, you got it right! − Pintoch (talk) 07:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Congrats on the DYK. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 09:14, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It was team effort. Couldn't be possible without people like yourself and the other editors.Whispyhistory (talk) 09:32, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * thank you, I will read the guidance and get back Whispyhistory (talk) 14:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Terence English
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for History of Medicine Society
Alex ShihTalk 00:03, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I mentioned that in Oxford there is an Osler Road; it is at 51.7605°N, -1.2139°W and was named Manor Road until the 1960s. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:54, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you, may add to william Osler page.Whispyhistory (talk) 06:13, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

September 2017
Hello, I'm Zackmann08. Thank you for your recent contributions to James Parkinson. I noticed that when you added the image to the infobox, you added it as a thumbnail. In the future, please do not use thumbnails when adding images to an infobox (see WP:INFOBOXIMAGE). What does this mean? Well in the infobox, when you specify the image you wish to use, instead of doing it like this:

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 * thank you Zackmann08 I don't understand but will go to next wiki meeting to clarify.Whispyhistory (talk) 18:24, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Basically, it's one of the things we talked about at Oxford in August, when I made in your name. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 18:41, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Zackmann08 and Redrose64 I understand now, thank you.Whispyhistory (talk) 07:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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October 2017
Please do not use thumbnails inside of infoboxesas you did to Francis Champneys. Note that this is your second warning regarding this issue. Continuing to add thumbnails will be seen as disruptive editing. For more information please see WP:INFOBOXIMAGE. When adding an image, instead of doing:

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 * sorry. Is this correct Sir William Church, 1st Baronet ? I'll look how to ping later. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:41, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you
Hello Whispyhistory. Firstly, my apologies for not replying to your invitation (above) to comment on your work since you first became a Wikipedia editor in April, creating your first article on Pankaj Chandak and taking it to WP:DYK. I was on holiday in the mountains of France when you messaged me. Despite my promise to reply in September, I completeley overlooked this. Sorry.

I've now had a chance to look at your contributions and think you've done very well. I think you deserve the barnstar I've left above. I've looked at feedback on your talk page as well as looking directly at the pages you made.
 * You've done brilliantly with creating new articles and getting some of them through WP:DYK. (I can take a bit of pride in feeling I've encouraged you there!) Looks like you'll soon find yourself having to do WP:QPQ if you keep on like that!
 * It also looks like you've got the hang of referencing, especially using the same ref multiple times.
 * You've fallen foul of using thumbs a couple of times in Infoboxes, but that's no big deal. Someone soon spots the error and shouts a bit - but it's all with the aim of encouraging editors to follow the Manual of Style which is well worth delving into. You'll find odd subsections of the MOS which can be really helpful, like this one I found tonight, and had no idea there was a template available for post-nominal letters.

In no particular order here are a few observations.
 * Try to add an edit summary to every single change you make. (About 20% of your edits have no descriptive summary.)
 * Try and tick the box when you only make minor edits. (As your Wikipedia journey develops you'll find it really helpful to be able to look back for something in your own edit history to find something you edited, and as you're able to select out any flagged as 'minor' - it'll make the task so much simpler.
 * On Wikimedia Commons, do keep your filenames much shorter and less descriptive (put details in the 'description'd field. This should have been a lot shorter, in my opinion.
 * Make absolutely sure you definitely have the right to upload images. For eample, I did wonder whether you were OK in uploading the image mentioned above. You may have copied the image yourself, but unless you were the photographer all those years ago, or unless you inherited the rights to the image, or unless someone else put it in the public domain, I do worry that it might be challenged. If you accessed it from your work with the History of Medicine Society, you could do with ensuring they release permission via the OTRS process. (Well worth a read, but I'll pass on that and let others worry about it.)
 * Finally, I've quickly slimmed your draft of the Diploma in the Philosophy of Medicine you're working on. I'm not convinced this will merit an article of its own, and ought probably to be a part of the main article on the Apothecaries Soc. So consider whether this is a better approach, or how, on its own, it is notable enough.

I hope you find some of this feedback of use. Keep up the good work. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:18, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. It is completely your doing that encouraged me to carry on and I'm learning every day. I appreciate your observations and those of others. They only make my work better. Regarding honorary suffixes. I am working on the DPMSA so that it can be linked to some of the doctors who have this. If it doesn't end up looking substantial/notable enough then I'll review it. Thank you again. I'm off to celebrate. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:10, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of DPMSA, Diploma in the Philosophy of Medicine


A tag has been placed on DPMSA, Diploma in the Philosophy of Medicine requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

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 * Help me out to do this article properly. The content is still good and there is more to include.Whispyhistory (talk) 07:03, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

I always suspected this
Yes! I always suspected that was the case; for 35 years I've been urging people to cool it on the makeup. Few listen: but have a close look at Jasmine this coming Sunday. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:37, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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Cope
Thanks for your additions to Zachary Cope. I changed one of your dates about the year he published Early Diagnosis. The source you used says 1922, but the obit from Medical History says 1921. I'm trying to find an image of a first edition to settle the difference. MartinezMD (talk) 21:15, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, do you have an interest in history of medicine? Are you a doctor? If so, nice to meet you I hope to improve some articles and add some new ones. Whispyhistory (talk) 22:51, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * My edits would give me away if I denied it anyway, but yes I am a physician. I have a varied interest on WP. Nice to meet you too. MartinezMD (talk) 00:18, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Medical articles
Here are some short medical articles that I have done: There are probably many more listed on my user page so feel free to adopt and expand any that interest you. I won't be offended! Philafrenzy (talk) 20:13, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Stephen Holgate (physician)
 * David Todd (haematologist)
 * Robin Ling
 * Clive Ballard
 * Roger Lemon
 * Isaac Chen
 * John Wickham (urologist)
 * Thank you. It was lovely and very useful to meet you. I am looking forward to checking out your articles in due course. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:05, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Expanded John Wickham a bit. What it needs now is the medical detail. Over to you. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:26, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Your userpage
I took the liberty of changing the layout of your userpage to what I think you are trying to achieve. You can reverse me with one click if you don't like it. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:52, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thankyou . Please feel to add anything that's helpful. It's amazing. Whispyhistory (talk) 09:53, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * We don't normally trespass on other people's user pages so that was an exception. You can find lots of boxes on other pages. Those tracking your progress can be good motivation to reach new milestones. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:06, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you again. I will check out other peoples and if you have any recommendation then feel free to ping me. While I have you, the dyk I did should be out on 19th Nov Whispyhistory (talk) 10:13, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, you can list them on your userpage if you wish using either a single box giving the number done or separately as I do. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:21, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

London meetup
ClemRutter (talk) 14:20, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Missed you today, bit of a mix-up meant that we didn't get there until 17:20. I met Jasmine at Paddington as planned, around 10:45; then after the 11:00 2 mins silence, we intended to go to Bromley, out and back in 2 hours or so. Took Bakerloo line to Charing Cross, with the plan of changing at Grove Park and on to Bromley North. The man at Charing X said that there were no Sunday trains from Charing X to Grove Park, we would have to change at Lewisham. What he didn't say was that there were no Sunday trains at all to Bromley North, so we made the last part of the journey by bus. When all was done in Bromley, we found that Jasmine's 4-zone travelcard wasn't valid at Bromley South (Zone 5), so used another bus to get to the nearest convenient point in zone 4 - one of the Croydon tram stops. Into Croydon, but couldn't use East Croydon or West Croydon main line stations (Zone 5 again), so took tram all the way to Wimbledon and from there took the first London-bound train - one for Luton via Herne Hill, got off that one at Farringdon. Very circuitous route. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:57, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * That's awful....you are very dedicated to have finally reached your destination. Will catch up next time.Whispyhistory (talk) 07:02, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * How do I ping someone?Whispyhistory (talk) 15:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Short answer: . Long answer: in a single edit, you need to: add at least one new line containing text; that text must contain a link to the user page of every person who is to be notified (templates like, and  create such links); you need to sign it. More at WP:Echo. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:55, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * thx Whispyhistory (talk) 20:31, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Philip Caves
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Either of these may be more useful to you than infobox person which is fairly generic: Philafrenzy (talk) 13:28, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:Infobox medical person
 * Template:Infobox scientist
 * ok Whispyhistory (talk) 13:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm really enjoying doing this article Whispyhistory (talk) 13:30, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It's great fun when it all comes together. And live on Google immediately! Fastest publishing possible. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:35, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The birth date and death date in infobox are not entered correctly. What do I do? Whispyhistory (talk) 13:53, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I couldn't get the formatting to work properly either and when I got part of working it put the month first then the day so I have just changed it to plain text entry. (You previously had nothing because the < and exclamation marks suppress text between so you need to remove them when using the template.) Philafrenzy (talk) 14:38, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Darrell Wilkinson
Have you seen these? There are images in both, the first is probably most suitable but it is certainly still copyright and can therefore only be added under fair use once the article is live. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:37, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * http://archive.epsomcollege.org.uk/1915-1939/OE_Biographies/Wilkinson1933.pdf
 * http://www.specialforcesroh.com/gallery.php?do=view_image&id=16741&gal=gallery
 * I have seen these but I don't know how to add them Whispyhistory (talk) 20:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The images or the sources? Philafrenzy (talk) 20:47, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * the images Whispyhistory (talk) 20:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * They can only be used under fair use (WP:FU) because they are still copyrighted, but not until the article is live. At the moment it is still in your user space as a draft. I will add one when you make it live. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:01, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ok...I'm still researching this one. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:02, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Edward Dodding
Just noticed this stub is skin related. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi They are in neurosciences but I will read about when chance Whispyhistory (talk) 13:12, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Edward Dodding is historic and conducted a post-mortem on Arnaq (worth reading). There's no need to do anything that doesn't interest you, there are millions missing. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:17, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll read a bit more before committing. Sounds interesting Whispyhistory (talk) 13:22, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There might be a good DYK in it. Refs need checking now I have moved everything around. Found a great pic showing the baby peeping out from the mother's hood. Philafrenzy (talk) 01:57, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You did an amazing job with Dodding, thank you. I'll have another look later. Let me know what else I can do on this article. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's coming along. I think it needs more non-Inuit material about Dodding or people will say it is really an article about the Inuit. There must be more out there. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:07, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it is ready for a DYK now. I will nominate it shortly. There is much more and deeper analysis to be done but we have to stop somewhere. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * sure, I couldn't find anything else and even checked at Wellcome library. I saw the original Munk's roll 1578 which says what we know already. Interested to see what dyk you come up with. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:14, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * check dyk...you may wish to re-jiggle it. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:07, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:19, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * thx..I knew you could re-jiggle it to make it better. well done. I enjoyed this teamwork. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:36, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Me too, thanks for everything you added. This is how Wikipedia is supposed to work. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:40, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Bodog F. Beck
You may enjoy this one. It has a sting in the tail. (Already been on DYK so nothing to do). Philafrenzy (talk) 21:36, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * learn something new everyday.Whispyhistory (talk) 21:50, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

London Wikimeet
Looking forwards to London Wikimeet! Hope we can meet up then! LoopZilla (talk) 09:02, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Lovely message, thx. I may need your help in some local history. See you then Whispyhistory (talk) 09:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Local to the East End? LoopZilla (talk) 16:24, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * . Actually thinking of Croydon Airport and Addington Palace to improve them. I can see you may be able to advise. I don't mind helping anyone where I can. Hope you put your name on meet up list. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I am on the list! LoopZilla (talk) 15:53, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * excellent, see you there with all my queries Whispyhistory (talk) 15:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

'The Doctor'
and. Can I make a new article on Luke Fildes painting 'the doctor'? There is lot to know about it. If so, how do I start a new draft or sandbox? Whispyhistory (talk) 15:18, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * A draft gets more comments from the community. LoopZilla (talk) 15:52, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * How can I start an article to work on Whispyhistory (talk) 15:54, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * My suggestion would be to go straight to a live article The Doctor (painting). As long as you create a paragraph of text with references you should have no difficulty. Start "The Doctor is a painting by Luke Fildes that is notable for ...." If you ping me I will keep an eye on it. There is material already in his bio so you will need to add sufficient to justify its existence as a separate article. If you don't want to you can just click on "Sandbox" at the top of your page and start typing. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:27, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * How do I start an article? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:32, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I see it already exists as a redirect. Just start entering text using the link I posted above. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:33, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to start it? Philafrenzy (talk) 16:37, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * yes please . My sandbox has draft perioral dermatitis in it. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:39, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. Over to you. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:41, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To start an article live, click on any red link and type in the box. Or search for the name you want and click to start it if it comes up red at the top of the search results. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:44, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The Doctor (painting). Philafrenzy (talk) 16:54, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm starting. Feel free to edit and add and advise. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:01, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you notice the image in use was a more colourful print, not the actual painting? I have changed to the real thing, though, if you ask me, the print is more aesthetically pleasing. The original is rather brown. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:11, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't mind which is used. If original more accurate then use original. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:21, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * If there's space once the article is completed, it would probably be worth having both images. Because of the nature of 19th-century varnish and the tendency of carmine (the standard red paint of the time) to turn brown when exposed to light, a lot of unrestored Victorian paintings have discoloured drastically and quite often botched restoration or reworking has changed the layout of the painting, and prints are often quite informative for illustrating to the reader what the artist originally intended the painting to look like. See the twin lead image of The Combat for a particularly extreme example. &#8209; Iridescent 18:22, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I was just about to make that point. Let's see. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:24, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I note some compositional differences too (e.g. stripe on the blanket) so it would be interesting to note if the artist did more than one version or if that was someone else's idea. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:27, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

"DID YOU KNOW" DYK. Suggest this is sent for consideration as a DYK? LoopZilla (talk) 18:38, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * will do. I'll work hard..give me couple days. Send me anything if you find anything useful. I have lots already though Whispyhistory (talk) 18:40, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. I can set it up since it is a little tricky. Must be done within the next few days. LoopZilla (talk) 19:28, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * See DYK LoopZilla (talk) 19:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * How about

Did you know that in Luke Fildes's ‘The Doctor (painting)’, the doctor resembles Luke Fildes himself. Did you know that the care his sons physician displayed during his illness inspired Luke Fildes to paint ‘The Doctor (painting)” Whispyhistory (talk) 23:10, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Fine. I will push it into the DYK system today. I might edit this (is it too long, for example???) LoopZilla (talk) 10:07, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you know that in Luke Fildes's The Doctor (painting), the doctor resembles Luke Fildes himself? is just over 100 characters. There is a 200 character limit. And should we have an image of the painting as part of the DYK? Or Fildes himself? LoopZilla (talk) 11:43, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you know that the care his sons physician displayed during his illness inspired Luke Fildes to paint The Doctor (painting) can be the ALT text (at just over 130 characters). LoopZilla (talk) 11:46, 4 December 2017 (UTC)


 * How about also Did you know that Luke Fildes's The Doctor (painting) ironically served as an emblem for both a celebration of Britain's NHS and a campaign against its equivalent in the United States.
 * Did you know that Luke Fildes's The Doctor (painting) was hailed as iconic due to the wish to be cared for as an individual. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The penultimate one above is quite strong (with a little tweaking). Philafrenzy (talk) 13:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * .... that Luke Fildes's The Doctor (painting) ironically served as an emblem for both a celebration of Britain's NHS and a campaign against its equivalent in the United States. is 360 odd characters LoopZilla (talk) 14:19, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * "...that Luke Fildes' painting The Doctor was used to promote state-run healthcare in Britain and to campaign against it in the United States? Philafrenzy (talk) 14:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * great and  thank you. Who puts these on DYK? I like the last one best and then the ....cared for as an individual but all are good.Whispyhistory (talk) 18:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I think that's you! You have done it before. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:43, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Please Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Doctor_(painting). How do I add image and where do I put Philafrenzy's name +/- LoopZilla. and . Thank you so much. Philafrrenzy,,,you really added a lot. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:41, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I have done it this time. All these things are in the fields shown in the nomination template, including the picture option which can get you top spot (probably won't be used for this one as doesn't display well in thumbnail). Are you using visual editor? Most of the "old hands" edit in the original code as that is easier in the end and more precise. You still need to add the template to the article talk page and to the list of nominations by date. Both are easy, just copy what others have done. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:28, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks I did try to copy from previous dyk images, but was just not coming out correctly. I'll look for one to review now. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:17, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * If you are entering the article title here: Template talk:Did you know it should be difficult to go wrong. Have one that is correct open in edit mode (not visual editor) in a separate window at the same time. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:56, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Ling
Great work, I am sure you can get a DYK out of it as a 5 x expansion. I would normally use a word as a shorthand for a ref rather than a number as that is easier to understand in edit mode, either the source name or author, eg "Times" or "Smith". The Manual of Style also says don't use academic degrees in the lead, include them later in the relevant section. Honours, however, are mentioned such as OBE, medals, etc. Also, there should be no refs in the lead once we move beyond stub as everything in the lead should already be in the body of the article and referenced there per MOS:LEAD. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:25, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * How did you get an image? I need your help with all the other recommendations you mentioned. I believe I need to review a dyk before I can have another. Can you go through this at next meet up? Whispyhistory (talk) 11:33, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Of course, the reviewing guide is here Did you know/Reviewing guide. I suggest you just choose something that looks straight forward and have a go. I will be happy to help. Images usually come from a Google search or a scan of a book or newspaper image. For recent deaths they will normally be "fair use" and you may need to ask for help there, but for historic bios there are often out of copyright images on Commons or you can grab a pic from a Google search if you are sure that it is out of copyright. It can be tricky but just post a message asking for advice on any particular pic you want to use. All will become clear as you progress. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:41, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * See this one for instance where I found four relevant images already on Commons: Tom Cox (highwayman) and just had to paste them in. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:15, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I think I've exhausted this now, unless you think I can improve Whispyhistory (talk) 21:03, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks good, I suggest you nominate it for DYK. Just mark the review "to be done". Philafrenzy (talk) 21:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ok...DYK that Robin Ling invented the Exeter stem hip which revolutionised hip replacement? Whispyhistory (talk) 21:53, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Good, Exeter hip stem might even justify it's own article. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:58, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've done a dyk..please check. I'm now reading through how to review Whispyhistory (talk) 16:00, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I added another contributor to the article. You should mention anyone that had a significant hand in it. Please add it here: Template_talk:Did_you_know (instructions on the page). Philafrenzy (talk) 16:16, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * sorry, of course. Thank you, Whispyhistory (talk) 16:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * shall I try the DYK 24 Nov FVB Mice. Where should I be discussing this...here on on another talk page?Whispyhistory (talk) 16:41, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't but it might suit you very well. Find the nomination, click edit and add some words in the indicated section stating that you are beginning the review. The page linked immediately above has plenty of examples to copy. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:46, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Checked - it's new- 24th nov, long enough- 2739 characters, interesting article and referenced. They reference after first sentence...is that correct? first hook good and simple <140 characters. headings have capitals- is that correct? what do I do now and what have I missed? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:20, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Add all this below where you said you were reviewing it in the template. Use bullet points for clarity:


 * Article is new enough
 * Article is long enough at x characters
 * etc

You need to show everyone on the DYK project what you have done. See here: Template talk:Did you know Philafrenzy (talk) 18:31, 26 November 2017 (UTC) you are a good mentor. thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 13:13, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, you have completed your first DYK review! Its OK by the way to lightly copyedit the article for compliance with the Manual of Style or to correct obvious errors or shortcomings. For instance I linked some words and moved the urls for the refs to where they should have been. The lead should be longer and ideally shouldn't have any refs because any information in it should be in the body but on DYK we look for adequacy rather than perfection. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * the image of the hip is not an Exeter hip. Can you find one? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:57, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:50, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Titles of books and paintings
Titles of books and paintings are italicised with the first letter of each major word capitalised like this Famous Book or Well Known Painting. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:12, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * got it, do the references in the 'doctor painting' look correct? Whispyhistory (talk) 10:26, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. It can get tricky when a source, such as the Art Gallery of New South Wales for instance, don't apply these rules themselves. Which is more right, the general rule or the formatting used in the source? Certainly in our body text we use those rules, for journals too. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:09, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Not all words are capitalised; for instance Arrangement in Grey and Black No.1. MOS:TITLECAPS gives full guidance. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 10:49, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed, that's why I said major words. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:00, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Marcus Beck
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Three "distinguished surgeons" red-linked. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:29, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed! LoopZilla (talk) 12:38, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Distinguished surgeons who trained under Beck include William Meredith, Stanley Boyd, Victor Horsley, and Raymond Johnson.[2]

The Lancet
Historic Lancets: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/serial?id=lancet Philafrenzy (talk) 11:51, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I get the weekly email from The Lancet! For example Vol.390 | Number 10112 | Dec 09, 2017 LoopZilla (talk) 12:36, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * very useful, thx Whispyhistory (talk) 13:28, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Robin Ling
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 * Thank you . Whispyhistory (talk) 12:35, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Price Thomas
and anyone else. Clement Price Thomas came across my way the other day as a stub. I've done some research on him before but seems to be expanding more than I thought. Would you mind looking over. I'm not happy with my headings for instance. I think more images must be out there etc Whispyhistory (talk) 10:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Haven't been through it in detail, but it looks sound to me. There may well be more photos but they will probably mostly be in copyright. Already removed one as a likely copyright violation. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:06, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, any further ideas on this article will be welcome.Whispyhistory (talk) 12:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * And also Arthur Tudor Edwards ? LoopZilla (talk) 09:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * 😄ok Whispyhistory (talk) 16:23, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * check please...Template:Did you know nominations/Clement Price Thomas. Do I add you, the original page creator and the other editor User talk:Verbcatcher to created by....? If so, I don't how even though I looked at how you did it. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like you sorted it out. You still need to add it to the list of nominations at Template talk:Did you know or it won't be reviewed. Also his name is wrong, there is a missing apostrophe and you need to be more precise about which king it is. There are some errors in the Alt too. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:35, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thx . Amended but can't figure out image in dyk. Where am I going wrong? Shal I leave it out? Whispyhistory (talk) 06:21, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The picture is fair use (still copyright) and can't be used in DYK so I removed it. Are you using the visual editor or editing directly in wikicode? I wonder if that is the reason you are having problems with some of these templates? Philafrenzy (talk) 11:14, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * P.S. Have you seen the new sources suggested on the talk page? Philafrenzy (talk) 11:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * P.P.S. Still isn't listed for review on the page mentioned above. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * thx . yes moved dyk to appropriate page. I am increasingly using source editor now as I get use to it. Find it makes less mistakes. I've seen new sources. Verbcatcher was very helpful and I feel a better insight into Price Thomas's background. I used Ellis's book already and will look to add more info at some point. The caricature in Ellis's book looks good...can it be used? Thx for looking at DYK and sorry about uninteresting ones on the othe dyk. I would appreciate your comments on this dyk...you seem to word them better than me. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I write clickbait for the Daily Mail in my spare time. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:29, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The caricature appears to be mid twentieth century. Copyright is usually 70 years minimum after creation so I don't think it can be used. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

I had never heard of clickbait....interesting Whispyhistory (talk) 16:53, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

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Nice job!
You are doing a great job on Clement Price Thomas. Your work and contributions are appreciated. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 12:25, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to all that watch me
Have a lovely Christmas too all who helped and guided me along. Thank you for watching my page. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:20, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year! LoopZilla (talk) 14:33, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you LoopZilla Whispyhistory (talk) 14:35, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Murray
Nice find on that additional source. I have developed a hook from it. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:59, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I was hoping you would. It looks like he was well admired by Pinard who is felt to be pioneer of antenatal abdominal palpation. Had Murray not been so tied up with day to day work, he may have pushed his innovation and written more on it, maybe becoming the pioneer of antenatal examination himself. I really enjoyed this article. thank you too. I'll find his original article and I believe there is an image of him in the RSM archives which I will look for too. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:09, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Great. I was unclear on one point. The book states nobody believed him and implies Murray got a bit carried away. Was he able to do what he claimed? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:27, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Not much said after that. People obviously flocked to him. Realistically he probably could tell position of fetus and whether breech etc. This was at a time when palpation of pregnant abdomens was not done until labour. The fact he was doing them in the antenatal period is an innovation itself which was fobbed off by contemporaries. A bit like Lister and antisepsis,, Ross and malaria caused by parasite. Who knows, maybe he could really tell. Pinard appears to have taken much notice of it. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:32, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Chairs
Interesting point, they wouldn't have been able to afford those chairs, but we can only use it with a reliable source. Is it mentioned anywhere else? Philafrenzy (talk) 18:28, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm checking. Someone sent me a message about the chairs. I know Charles Dickens Chippendale table was painted in another of Fildes pictures. I can add info again when source becomes available...another challenge.🙂Whispyhistory (talk) 19:15, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for The Doctor (painting)
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Precious
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 * Thank you. Such comments and appreciation really do keep motivation. 💙 Whispyhistory (talk) 07:26, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * So do such thanks! 2017 brought some Reformation and reformation. Green pumping hearts.jpg Happy 2018, year of the green, to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Edward Dodding
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DYK for Robin Ling
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 * Great work, well done, much more detailed than most DYKs, and a permanent record of Ling's achievements. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:18, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you ...bit tied up today but looking forward to completing next one. My history colleagues are very envious. Lots of good feedback Whispyhistory (talk) 11:43, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Bring them to the meetup, there is an almost unlimited number of article possibilities. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:46, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I will ask W. F. Bynum. . Whispyhistory (talk) 11:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Clement Price Thomas
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Quotes
Just a note that we generally use "double quotes" not 'single quotes', I assume because they stand out more but don't quote me on that. The rule is here: MOS:DOUBLE. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:37, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ok, will review and checkWhispyhistory (talk) 16:55, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Gustavus Murray
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WikiProject Women's Health
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 * Of course, will check out Whispyhistory (talk) 09:23, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret O'Flynn
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David Ritchie (surgeon)
Philafrenzy thought you might be interested in David Ritchie (surgeon), which I started today. The frostbitten fingers and the pub could make a nice DYK hook. There is much more that could be added from his Independent obit and Plarr's Lives of the Fellows. We have a week - no rush. Edwardx (talk) 13:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for thinking of me . I will take a look Whispyhistory (talk) 13:59, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Cheers. It was the meet-ups that really persuaded me of the power of collaborative editing. Edwardx (talk) 14:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for John Hunt, Baron Hunt of Fawley
00:02, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for George Francis Abercrombie
Gatoclass (talk) 12:12, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Fraser Macintosh Rose
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Oxford 58
Hi, please see m:Talk:Meetup/Oxford/58 and indicate which option would most suit you. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Who is copying what?
The point you raised for the Milk allergy DYK is the second time I have experienced a who-is-copying-what query. It appears that there is a lot of mirroring of Wikipedia content out there is the wide world of science writing. However, I agree with the idea that GA and DYK reviewers should point out possible copyright violations, and then becomes the responsibility of the GA and DYK proposers to respond. P.S. Also an amateur historian, but regional (eastern Massachusetts), not medical. David notMD (talk) 15:40, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I understand. I’ve  seen one of my articles copied in entirety on another website. The article is well written and understandable. I can see your effort. Well done. I’m a bit tied today but will try and complete tomorrow. I’m merely following the dyk checklist.. privilege to work with you Whispyhistory (talk) 17:52, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of John Fraser (surgeon)
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Rose case
I've read through and copyedited what you have so far. The clarify tags I've left have reasons which explain why I think clarification is necessary. I've also added some citation needed tags, these are probably covered by the existing sources but this isn't clear (in at least one case because I rearranged the order of things). There are two other general notes/queries I have: Do feel free to revert any change you disagree with - you're the one with access to the sources and who knows the subject matter. Thryduulf (talk) 23:45, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The paragraph about Charles Goodall (The Royal College of Physicians section) is unclear, e.g. is the dispensary scheme the whole nature of the competetion or an example of it?
 * The paragraph about apothecaries being the lowest category of doctor is essentially duplicated in the lead and in the parties section. It isn't needed twice, so probably best heavily trimmmed or removed from the lead and the latter section expanded.
 * Thank you Your points taken into account. I'll probably look into more detail later in week. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:23, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Wotsits
Good to meet you today! I'll try the Wotsits trick next time I meet a fussy baby ;) Mvolz (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Sure . I will check the above out. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:42, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Gray's Anatomy
Check out c:Category:Gray's Anatomy plates for over 2000 free-use scanned images. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:26, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, here are the open textbooks I mentioned. I've mostly been working on importing Clinical Procedures for Safer Patient Care but there's an Anatomy and Physiology textbook as well. They're both licensed under cc-by-4.0 so you can import images and text from them directly into articles. Mvolz (talk) 10:07, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you and . There is an article on wotsits! Whispyhistory (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jainti Dass Saggar
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DYK for Neil Swallow
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Stanley Gelbier
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DYK nomination of Harbans Lall Gulati
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DYK for Norah Schuster
— Maile (talk) 00:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Marriott Fawckner Nicholls
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Harbans Lall Gulati
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Benjamin Golding
Cycled past Benjamin Golding's tomb today. Next time, will update our photo, as I think it is rather less green than when I shot it in 2014. Edwardx (talk) 22:29, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Amazing. Looks like an article worth expanding. Save for weekend . Whispyhistory (talk) 06:09, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Osler Club of London
{{DYKbotdo 00:01, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia from the Anatomy Wikiproject!
Welcome to Wikipedia from WikiProject Anatomy! We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of anatomy articles here on Wikipedia. One of our members has noticed that you are involved in editing anatomy articles; it's great to have a new interested editor on board. In your wiki-voyages, a few things that may be relevant to editing wikipedia articles are:
 * Thanks for coming aboard! We always appreciate a new editor. Feel free to leave us a message at any time on the WikiProject Anatomy talk page. If you are interested in joining the project yourself, there is a participant list where you can sign up. Please leave a message on the talk page if you have any problems, suggestions, would like review of an article, need suggestions for articles to edit, or would like some collaboration when editing!
 * You will make a big difference to the quality of information by adding reliable sources. Sourcing anatomy articles is essential and makes a big difference to the quality of articles. And, while you're at it, why not use a book to source information, which can source multiple articles at once!
 * We try and use a standard way of arranging the content in each article. That layout is here. These headings let us have a standard way of presenting the information in anatomical articles, indicate what information may have been forgotten, and save angst when trying to decide how to organise an article. That said, this might not suit every article. If in doubt, be bold!
 * We write for a general audience. Every reader should be able to understand anatomical articles, so when possible please write in a simple form—most readers do not understand anatomical jargon. See this essay for more details.

Feel free to contact us on the WikiProject Anatomy talk page if you have any problems, or wish to join us. I wish you all the best on your wiki-voyages! Tom (LT) (talk) 22:10, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Pinewood Hospital
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Stanley Gelbier
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 22 March 2018 (UTC)