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WikiCup 2010 Blue Award

 * Congrats. Good job.   DC   T • C   05:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks DC ;)-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 19:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, White Shadow, you've come a long way. Bravo! I look forward to the time when I'm able to actively edit again; I do miss working with you and the others. =) -- Twilight  Helryx  19:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks TH. The truth is though, "the others" no longer exist. Most of the people that I've met and have some sort of friendship with on-wiki have left. There is still guys like HJ, Wehwalt, Soap, you, and some others but (some) people whom we did collaborations on for the WWII article are retired.-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 19:48, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, pity. Still, hope to see them again at some point. I've finally started moving beyond the realm of fiction and started working on "real life" articles, but school's keeping me tied up for the moment. Currently, my wiki-goal is to get Doberman Pinscher promoted to GA status. Still needs plenty of cleanup, especially with the citations. I can see you're good with German ships and submarines. How's for German dog breeds? =3 -- Twilight  Helryx  21:01, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Fairly lousy to be honest. I'm "good" at German/Austrian ships/U-boats because of the sources that I have on them. I don't have any sources on dogs...-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 21:12, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Had to ask. =P I understand; on my end, I hardly have any sources on any form of machinery. ;) Thanks anyway. =) Cheers!-- Twilight  Helryx  21:21, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 October newsletter
The 2010 WikiCup is over! It has been a long journey, but what has been achieved is impressive: combined, participants have produced over seventy featured articles, over five hundred good articles, over fifty featured lists, over one thousand one hundred "did you know" entries, in addition to various other pieces of recognised content. A full list (which has yet to be updated to reflect the scores in the final round) can be found here. Perhaps more importantly, we have our winner! The 2010 WikiCup champion is, with an unbelievable 4220 points in the final round. Second place goes to, with 2260, and third to , with 560. Congratulations to our other four finalists –, , and. Also, congratulations to, who withdrew from the competition with an impressive 2685 points earlier in this round.

Prizes will also be going to those who claimed the most points for different types of content in a single round. It was decided that the prizes would be awarded for those with the highest in a round, rather than overall, so that the finalists did not have an unfair advantage. Winning the featured article prize is, for five featured articles in round 4. Winning the good article prize is, for eighty-one good articles in round 5. Winning the featured list prize is, for six featured lists in round 1. Winning the picture and sound award is, for four featured pictures in round 3. Winning the topic award is, for forty-seven articles in various good topics in round 5. Winning the "did you know" award is, for over one hundred did you knows is round 5. Finally, winning the in the news award is, for nineteen articles in the news in round three.

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Explanation
Re:this - This might help answer your questions. In short: Rlevse wrote a number of articles which plagiarized their sources. A number of these ran on DYK. Of particular note is Grace Sherwood, which was the featured article on Halloween (until the plagiarism allegations surfaced and I pulled it and replaced it with a hurricane article). Malleus helped copyedit the Sherwood while it was at FAC. So although he had nothing to do with the plagiarized sections, people are faulting him for it. And that's the story in a nutshell - that's why FAC and DYK are highly frenetic right now. Raul654 (talk) 03:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you Raul for the reply. I'm a regular at DYK (or at least used to be, I hope to be more active there in the near future again) and I was gone yesterday so all of this came to me in a matter of minutes when I logged on today.-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 03:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

It's raining thanks spam!

 * Please pardon the intrusion. This tin of thanks spam is offered to everyone who commented or !voted (Support, Oppose or Neutral) on my recent RfA. I appreciate the fact that you care enough about the encyclopedia and its community to participate in this forum.
 * There are a host of processes that further need community support, including content review (WP:GAN, WP:PR, WP:FAC, and WP:FAR). You can also consider becoming a Wikipedia Ambassador. If you have the requisite experience and knowledge, consider running for admin yourself!
 * If you have any further comments, input or questions, please do feel free to drop a line to me on my talk page. I am open to all discussion. Thanks &bull; Ling.Nut (talk) 02:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

FLC and ACCESS
As a regular at FLC, I'd like to draw your attention to ongoing discussion here about changes to the format of tables which will affect all existing FLs and all current and future FLCs. Your input would be welcome. Thanks for your contributions so far! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I will be watching the discussion. Thank you.-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 00:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

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Happy White Shadows's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, click here. Have a Great Day... Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 05:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above is given on behalf of User:Rlevse. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 05:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I am honored to be given this award again. I remember when Rlevse first gave it to me in January. Thank you :)-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 05:56, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, he was going to give me one as well before he left, kind of a bummer. I was on the list that I am running down for him, the same you are on. :)  Keep up the good work! :) -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 06:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 06:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You're Welcome! :) -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 06:18, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey, even George Washington gets only one day a year and nowadays he has to share ... congrats!--Wehwalt (talk) 13:13, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Congrats, WS; not only for your day, but I hear on the WikiCup as well. Keep up the good work. :) --Dylan620 (t • c) 15:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. This will definitely give me further motivation to keep working, even if I can only manage a few edits a day for the time being :)-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 17:44, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Time of year to Give Thanks

 * Thanks Malke! This is the 3rd one I've gotten!-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 20:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * So you get it with oak leaves and more oak leaves, there are after all plenty of oak leaves around!--Wehwalt (talk) 21:28, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Good one.-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 21:56, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

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Triple Crown
Y' know that you qualify for two Triple Crowns due to your work? Buggie111 (talk) 20:01, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * you want to nominate me then? It's kinda rude for my to nominate myself...-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 21:19, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You can nominate yourself, it is not considered a huge deal.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:53, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright....I don't really have the time right now though...maybe later :)-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 21:54, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That is just it, filling out the Triple Crown application is a pain in the neck ... I've never bothered to upgrade mine, just too much bother.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:09, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright....I did it. I'm able to get another one too with that FL.-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 00:17, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Congrats.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:35, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Turkish Ships
Need any help on the list? I'm open for work. Buggie111 (talk) 16:40, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure! Take a look at the FLC. There are 2 remaining issues left. BTW, are we going to nominate SMS EFF for the mainpage soon?-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 16:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like it to coincide with an anniversary. More of a chance to get on. So far, it only obtains 1 point. Buggie111 (talk) 16:54, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * We have nothing to loose though....What's the worst that can happen? They say no?-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 19:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh, maybe brownie points will disappear? I think the other footnote can be found in Ottoman Steam Navy. I'll go put the nom up if you think it's ok. Buggie111 (talk) 19:42, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, just add my name in there with yours I'll go back in a bit to confirm my co-nom with you :)-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 19:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Any date that you could suggest? Buggie111 (talk) 20:42, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Not really, sometime in late December? The 22nd is fine.-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 21:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You should start putting Sokol into SMS Zrinyi. We are aiming to get that to FA, are we? Buggie111 (talk) 00:06, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, we are :-)-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 00:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice work, I only had a chance to glance at it. I'm "on tour" and it is difficult to find many consecutive hours to settle down and evaluate stuff or do serious writing--Wehwalt (talk) 12:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I know what you mean. I've had a lot of stuff going on for the past month and today's a travel day for me.-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 15:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Triple Crown



 * Wow thanks!-- White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 11:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

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Arbitration Case
Communicat has a case before the ArbCom and, in discussion prior to the case being accepted by ArbCom, I mentioned that you had experienced negative interactions with Communicat. ''Let me start by naming others with whom Communicat has had similar negative interactions, as the Committee may wish to either involve them or review the interactions: Arnoutf, Parsecboy, Binksternet, Paul Siebert, Moxy, and White Shadows. Those interactions have not been universally negative, though mostly so.''

This prompted Communicat to write the onus is on Habap to inform those editors that he has involved them, so that they may speak for themselves, if at all. at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II. In the arbitration case, Communicat alleges anti-Soviet bias by the members of the WikiProject Military History, specifically naming Edward321, Hohum, Nick-D, Georgewilliamherbert and me. If you would like to present evidence, you would do so on the Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II/Evidence page. If you disagree with my characterization of your interactions as being "mostly negative", it would be appreciated if you would state that on the evidence page to clarify the matter.

I apologize for involving you in this process as I am sure you have more enjoyable things to do. --Habap (talk) 14:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You do not have to do anything if you do not want to. ArbCom has nothing against you.  You may wish to keep an eye on the matter, and certainly you can submit evidence.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know of this matter guys. I was actually in the process of listening to Christmas Lights for the 500th time what I got this ;)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 02:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd rather not get involved to be honest. I want to keep my nose clean as I hopeful have been for the past 8 months or so. I hope that it's OK with the members of Arbcom if I decline to actively partake in this case. If they need to interview or contact me, they may certainly do so and I will cooperate in such matters but outside of that, I'm merely going to watch list the case for now. Hope this is OK guys. All the best,-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 02:52, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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Question
Is there any way to know what U-boat sunk a certain ship? I'm working on C. D. Howe and the ship he was on was sunk from under him (the S.S. Western Prince on 14 December 1940). Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course! I'll post back here once I find it. It may take a day or two as I'm busy. (Hence the fact that I've made less than 200 edits for the past few months)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 00:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I know what you are doing, and it is what you should be doing. No excuses necessary.  You have a good sense of priorities.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:09, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Wehwalt! BTW, while I'm online, I thought that I should just get this done with so here you go. The Western Prince was sunk by the German Submarine U-96. Here is the Uboat.net link to the ship as well if you want to take a look. .-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 00:14, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, appreciate it.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'll be here all week ;)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 00:25, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if I have any more Canadian ministers who had their ships shot out from under them, you're number one on my list to call.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice to know :)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 01:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Main page appearance
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on December 22, 2010. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/December 22, 2010. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director,. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbh®tch Talk © Happy Holidays 03:49, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

 

SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand was an Austro-Hungarian Radetzky class pre-dreadnought battleship commissioned into the Austro-Hungarian Navy on 5 June 1910. Although SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand was laid down and commissioned after the launching of the HMS Dreadnought in 1906, her design was begun before and had the characteristics of a Pre-Dreadnought battleship rather than later Post-Dreadnought battleships. She was named after Archduke Franz Ferdinand. The first ship of her class to be built, she preceded SMS Radetzky by more than six months. Her armament included four 30.5 cm (12 in) guns in two twin turrets, and eight 24 cm (9.4 in) guns in four twin turrets. She participated in an international naval protest of the Balkan Wars in 1913, during which she helped enforce a blockade of Montenegro. She also was one of the first ships to deploy seaplanes for military use. During World War I, she saw limited service in the 2nd Division of the 1st Battle Squadron, including mobilization to assist the escape of the German ships SMS Goeben and SMS Breslau and the bombardment of Ancona in 1915. (more...)


 * Congrats on your first TFA, WS, you earned it. You did an excellent job in the push to get the article from A to FA. Weren't you going to try to get Zrinyi to FA as well? Parsecboy (talk) 04:31, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we are. Sokol needs to be added into it before anything else can be done. Buggie111 (talk) 14:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent work, WS, and I hope the joy of having your work on the 7th most popular web site in the world is worth the trouble of writing the article. Save lots of copies to email to your grandchildren!--Wehwalt (talk) 15:17, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. I will ;) To parsec, yes I was planning on doing so. During Christmas break I'll start the long and laborious task of adding in Sokol, fixing grammar and citation errors and adding in info that the article is currently lacking.-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 11:54, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's on Yay!-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 00:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well done, you should feel justifiably proud of that. Malleus Fatuorum 01:22, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mallues. I remember that you once told me that I'd get there....never though it would actually happen. Let's see someone call my work sub-par now ;)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 02:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no shortage of people who'll knock whatever you've done, or whatever anyone else has done, because they take a fundamental objection to the way that they've deployed commas, formatted their citations, or whatever else. But who cares. You've come an awfully long way this year; you should be even more proud of that than this TFA. I promise you, after your first half-dozen or so the magic wears off anyway. ;-) Malleus Fatuorum 03:19, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Not that many teenage high-schoolers get their work on the main page of the 6th most visited website in the world. The magic will live on for a while...perhaps until I go off to college. Thanks for the compliment Malleus. I hold that in high esteem coming from you. If everything works out, SMS Zrinyi will be next on the main page in some months.-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 03:32, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * My final thought before I bore you to death is that you've learned a valuable lesson about research that will stand you in good stead when you get to college. Enjoy your day in the sun, you deserve it. Malleus Fatuorum 03:41, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Malleus. I know that my work here today will do much to further me tomorrow. Goodnight ;)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 03:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

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 * Looks like I made a cameo appearance in this Wikiproject report ;)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 01:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Assistance. (Attention all 100+ TPS)
Well, as it has become well known, I'm way less active than I was over the summer. I don't have that much free time right now and Featured list candidates/List of battleships of the Ottoman Empire/archive1 has two outstanding set of comments that need addressing. Can anyone fill in for me over there until this Friday? (That's when I start my break and I'll have more free time). If anyone can help out, many thanks to you. All the best,-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 02:04, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!



 * Many thanks Meaghan. Merry Christmas to you too :)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 21:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!


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 * Thank you so much TT. Merry Christmas to you too. All the best,-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 02:30, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
To everyone! Hope your day was wonderful ;)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights

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Austria-Hungary
I've found a possible source for you: Hope you can find it in a library. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 07:21, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The nearest one is in Washington DC, some 60 miles away. However, on the bright side, I do travel to Washington every now and then. Next time I'm in town, I'll see if I can get a hold of it. Should be a great addition to SMS Radetzky :)-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 20:24, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Image source problem with File:Invasion of the Netherlands 1.PNG
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re question
I actually took this name from a forum I was on alot as the name I wanted (Demosthenes, my favorite name!) was not available. Cheers, Lord Roem (talk) 05:44, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * !!!!!! Yes! I used to be on AH.com a a ton, even was Prime Minister of the AH.com Parliament at one point. haha. What a small world. Or...what a small wiki. :-) I was under the name Demosthenes -- Lord Roem (talk) 05:49, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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Image sourcing
I got notified because I transfered these to commons. You will need to provide a sourcing for the map in which you overlay the shading. File:Invasion_of_the_Netherlands_2.png File:Invasion_of_the_Netherlands_1.png NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 17:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry....it's been so long since I uploaded them that I cannot remember where I got the basemap from...-- White Shadows Those Christmas lights 00:37, 1 January 2011 (UTC)