User talk:White Shadows/Archive 9

you should check this out
theres some troll telling me that im a descrace to wikipedia because of my spelling. now, Im ok because I know this guy has noething better to do in his spair time, but i think you should check this out for a good laugh. (cause we all alredy know I'm bad at spelling)-- Orange soda  kid  00:14, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Notice
Hello White Shadows. I love your new username! :) You might want to check this out: WP:AN/I#Personal attacks from User:White Shadows. Cheers, -- Meäghân  talk   23:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoa! That was the first time that I got scared! Thanks for the joke Meaghan :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 16:52, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello White Shadow
Hey, White Shadows. Thanks for offering to help me out. I guess i still have a lot to learn. I have also learned a lot from Wikipedia, so i guess we have something in common. By the way, i love your username. It's really cool. ;) CamrynRocks! (talk) 23:43, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Larry Dell Alexander
How's it going White Shadows? Did you get around to getting a second opinion on this article yet? I'm just curious as to how its going.99.69.190.50 (talk) 00:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No, no yet. You see I am very buisy IRL so I have'nt the time yet. Do you thnik that you can ask someone about it? Thanks :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 16:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess you could always just post it on the main page. That'll certainly give you a whole bunch of opinions. Ha Ha! I don't know who to ask, but I guess I could just pick someone out of the hat. I believe its good enough that it won't be deleted without giving us further oportunity to work on it if it needs it. Also, could it be posted as a "stub" or "orphan" maybe?99.69.190.50 (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well it si certainly not a stub. You could ask User:Theleftorium about it. He may be able to give a good opinion.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 17:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, I dropped him a line.99.69.190.50 (talk) 17:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Great! Now we just wait. I've got to go now though. RL calls :P-- White Shadows you're breaking up 17:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

The article looks good, and it seems there's enough sources to meet Wikipedia's notability guideline. Just make sure that you follow our verifiability and "neutral point of view" guidelines and I don't think you will run into any trouble. One suggestion: You should probably format the references with the cite news template (instructions on how to use it are available on this page). Regards,  The left orium  20:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Theleftorium! Now I can finally move it into the mainspace :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Today's my birthday!
(pretty self explanitory IMHO)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:56, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday "White Shadows (Coldplay Song)" which was originally "Coldplay Expert". December21st2012Freak   Talk to me at 01:08, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not a song! But thanks 2012 :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it your real birthday or your wikibirthday?  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 02:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * My wikibirthday is July 21. This is my real birthday :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 02:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "And birds go flying at the speed of sound to show you how it all began, birds came flying from the underground, if you could see it then you'd understa-a-and." Sorry but I had to sing Coldplay:) Happy Birthday!  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 02:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice redition of Speed of Sound there :D Thanks buddy. This birthday is a huge one for me. No more takeing the schoolbus to my high school if you know what I mean.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 02:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday! --Native to Coruscant (talk) 09:46, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, hello there, Lord Spongefrog,   (I am Czar of all Russias!)  10:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday! You're getting "very old"! :)  Those ticking clocks, you know.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. But you don;t have to treat me like a 6 year old by saying "your getting very old" I'm still 30+ years younger than you Wehwalt. And I love how you said "those ticking clocks" Comming from you, that pretty funny.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:08, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I was alluding to the comment you made on Camryn's talk page, thus the quote marks. Age is nothing to worry about, as C.S. Lewis noted, you are always either too old or too young, never quite at the ideal age.  Or Browning "Grow old along with me!  The best is yet to be."  There are pros and cons of every age.  I'd be happy to have fewer backaches, but I wouldn't be prepared to give up the dough, be back with my parents, and expose myself to the horrors of high school again!--Wehwalt (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ugh. Tell me about it! And I live in a redneck like place with a touch or Northern Virginan Liberalism. I can;t stand it. Once I get out of college, I'm moveing to Canada.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 15:44, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The coast of British Columbia is nice and has decent weather. The rest of it does not have good weather five months a year.  Been there, done that.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I like the snow and cold weather. Back when we had the huge snow story in February, I was amazed....-- White Shadows you're breaking up 15:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it is less convenient now that you'll be driving.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:01, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose but here in VA, you have to be 16 and 3 months to get a license. I still have to wait :(-- White Shadows you're breaking up 16:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "Lovers in Japan" is best. Happy birthday! -- Dylan 620  (contribs, logs) 14:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you Dylan :) To be honest, I was'nt expecting you to comment as your never on! But I have to disagree with you, I Ran Away and GPASUYF are the best.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday to one of the best people on Wikipedia. I baked you a cake.  .  Enjoy your day!  Many happy returns. :D   Malke  2010  14:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you Malke :) I like the cake.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Editor XXV returned at 09:46, 3 April 2010 (UTC). December21st2012Freak   Talk to me at 17:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy B-Day Shadows. Here's hoping your day is truly special. Calmer   Waters  20:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks CW :) I finally got a hard case for my guitar. (I really needed one) And we also traveled to the Cherry Blossom Festival in DC, that was nice :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

My Secret Page
Well, even though you sort of found it by cheating, you can have the barnstar. However, you have to put your name on the list on the page too, so I know that you cheated to get to the right one. :P And, on the one you did put your name on, you have to put your name again under my comment. I know, I'm very... particular about how I do this, but that's just me. :) Anyhoo, put your name on the list, add yours again under my comment, on the page where you did put your name, and you get the barnstar, if you really care enought o get it. :P Hi878 (talk) 18:26, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, it's ok. I don;t accept secret pages banstars. I just wanted to find it :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Tide rolls
I asked if I could nominate him for adminship a few months ago. He told me he wasn't ready, of course. As you may have saw, I found someone else to nominate. Hopefully that RfA will pass.  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 17:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's ok. Tide rolls has yet to see the light on this matter. He would be promoted but oh well.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 18:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

SGF
Hello, White Shadows. SGF pwned my userpage. Also, it turns out this April Fools joke was a creation by that same sock.  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 20:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's ok, once you become an admin (if ever) then you can always fully protect your page and still edit it yourself. In the mean time, I got another GA! German submarine U-2336, my 6th GA and my 2nd that I wrote from scratch.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 20:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And while we're on that subject;

Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  21:16, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks LSF but you know that there is a WikiProject Ships Barnstar! Oh well, thanks alot man, this means alot. Perhpas next GA I'll get the ships barnstar :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 21:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a ships barnstar?! Dammit, why didn't you say so! Well, the thingy inside the star looks kinda like a submarine's door...thing. You know the things they use to open them? The big turny things you spin around? Whaddya call 'em...somthing. Well, anyway, for accumulating so many GA's in such a short period has to be worth at least this arrangement of pixels on a computer screen, Lord Spongefrog,   (I am Czar of all Russias!)  21:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mean a hatch? Thanks for the homemade barnstar LSF, why don;t you propose it to become an official one?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 21:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

If you wrote it from scratch, and you've gotten a DYK and GA, you are three fourths of the way to a WP:FOUR. FA, of course, is the hardest part (so is the waiting), but you've got to get your feet wet there sometime (hopefully, not while in a submarine, as that could be a bad sign).--Wehwalt (talk) 12:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice use of irony Wehwlat :) Anyway, I knwo aobut the Four Award and I hope to get there one day. however, my submarine articles are no where near an FA. I may have to spend a while picking a article of mine and then working my way there.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no time limit. I was lucky on my first FA because I was basically carried along by an experienced FA writer and I just played backup for him all the way.  Perhaps a plan is to aim at MilHist A-class, which is so close to FA, the difference can't be measured.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Good advice :) I'll think about A-class. Perhpas I'll start out with Battle of Belgium which I helped got to GA status as a test run for the supposed horrors of FA.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Review done
I have left you an editor review, hope it is helpful to you. Happy editing, --Taelus (talk) 12:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Taelus :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

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Just wondering...
Since your doing alot of stuff involving WW2, do you know if there is an article about Allied currency used? Cheers, Abce2 (talk) 02:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If sorry. What exactly do you mean?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 21:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Money that Allied forces used in WW2. Is there are article with that already?Abce2 (talk) 22:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to my knowing.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Are we talking about money used in occupied nations, or the money used like on military bases?--Wehwalt (talk) 01:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Any, I guess. But define the first option. Did you mean the country's currency or the Allied's?Abce2 (talk) 04:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The Allied's.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 10:15, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay.Abce2 (talk) 12:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's called "Allied Military Currency" and is discussed here. Looks like a worthwhile article.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Any chance any of you would like to help? I really stink at refs. I'll be ready tomorrow.Abce2 (talk) 04:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


 * User:Abce2/article1.Abce2 (talk) 21:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Not sure how much I can help, I don't own any refs on this. Happy to advise/copyedit. Looks like a solid start.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:52, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to lend a hand if you need one :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 16:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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New Mexico GA review
Hi White Shadows. I noticed that you have had the New Mexico article under review, but there have been no comments on the review page (Talk:New Mexico/GA1) for over two weeks. Are you still working on this review? Dana boomer (talk) 02:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I am still reviewing it.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 20:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, that's great. I was just checking in due to the longer-than-normal hold period, especially with almost nothing being done in over two weeks. Also, the article as it currently stands is a quick-fail candidate, with cleanup banners from 2008, just FYI. Dana boomer (talk) 01:25, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. If nothing happens in the next few days, I'll fail it.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 16:57, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoa, don't fail it yet. I have been working in other areas of Wikipedia. I will be working on it some more.  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 17:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK then. You'll need to get a move on though. It's been a while and nothings happened yet.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 17:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

User:White Shadows/German U-boat bases in occupied France
so it this article ready to go yet? Any more issues. If any of my TPS could read over it and tell me what's still wrong with it, that would be great.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 18:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Other than a few red links (which I assume you will do something about them) the article looks great. I think it's ready to move to the mainspace.  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 18:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look in a minute. :)  The left orium  18:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You might want to expand the lede to a second paragraph. The prose is reasonably good, good enough for a DYK and when it is ready, GA.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the close paraphrasing remains. Compare, for example, the following text from the source:

with the article:

I strongly encourage you to compare all paragraphs of the article with the sources before moving it to the mainspace.  The left orium  19:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright then. Can any of you help me re-word it?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 19:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I don't have time for that at the moment. I think it would be a good learning experience for you to do it yourself. Two tips: Use more sources and leave out unimportant details.  The left orium  19:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that generally books tend to write in more detail than is needed for summary style.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:21, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well ok. It's just that I've already got over 70 edits to the thing and I'm getting tired of trying to fix this. Can anyone else help me out. Can I entice you with a barnstar?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 19:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I only accept Visa, the official credit card of the Olympics and Wehwalt.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I cannot pay you. I can only give you a set of aranged pixles on a computer screen for you rewording a set of pixles on a computer screen.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 19:28, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec) To be honest, you've only made this attempt at a rewrite since I tagged the article on March 13.  The left orium  19:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Any to be honset, I'm tired of editing it. Sorry. I'll get to it later. It sill needs commas and what not as well.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 19:32, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Seriously, I agree with Theleftorium. If writing too close to the source is a problem for you, you need to learn to solve it.  I mean, the written page is the easiest path because of the fact that, well, somebody has done it and it's worked.  It's not always easy to vary from that, but it has to be done, it will benefit you not only here but in RL, no doubt your teaching units take dim views of close paraphrasing and it is only going to get stricter from here.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * But I don't know how to re-write it. Every time that I start to, I look at the preview and it still looks the same as the origional. I don't know how to fix that.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 19:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete a section, wait a day, and do it again. Or try writing it on a different page in your userspace, working from the sources, after not having looked at the article for a day.  You'll write it differently, I suspect,and that will give you hints on how to avoid it.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

White Shadows, here are some links I'm sure will be of help: Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches,,.  The left orium  19:47, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, remember we face very few problems that have not been faced before. Sometimes it is worth reinventing the wheel, but in the day of the Internet, a google search and a few resources will do the trick!--Wehwalt (talk) 19:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * More sources would be good. I've also started to work on the Brest section as well.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 19:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason it's important that you learn how to paraphrase is that most colleges/universities use plagiarism detectors such as Turnitin or SafeAsssignment and lots of high schools are now too. If the software returns a positive result for plagiarism, which it would based on the paragraphs above, you might well find yourself with an F on the assignment. College professors often give Fs for a course in such a case. I'll take a shot at one of the paragraph to see what I can do, but you need to learn how to do this. It's important, and here on Wikipedia there are people willing to teach you. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know but I am fairly good at writeing and I normally do not plagiarise. I only made a close comparison with this article because I was in a rush to get it done and I thought that If I use diffrent words here and there, everything would be fine. Well I was wrong. Thanks for the advice and the help though.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * In college all the students have to submit their papers to Turnitin, regardless of the writing ability. Lots of time they are unaware that they're plagiarising because like this example they think that changing a few words will do the trick. Because writing is so hard (for all of us), the respectful thing to do is never ever take another persons' work. Taking their idea is okay, but really reword the work and make it your own. Don't consider this a personal attack: it's given in the spirit of being helpful. I'm also going to add the ISBN to the book in the references section. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:33, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not a PA, it's advice. And you are going aobut the right way of telling me. I understand that even "close paraphraseing" can be wrong and I'll try to prevent that from ever becomeing an issue for me. You see, with most of my U-boat articles, I have to take a map of the oceans around Europe that has a few dots and the names of aobut 3-6 ships and make that into a paragraph. I'm pretty good at writeing, I just need to make it my own words.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, these guys came out and said what I was alluding to. It is good advice.  And please, WS, if you are saying you are pretty good at writing, at least spell it right!--Wehwalt (talk) 01:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * sorry, I tend not to look at the keyboard when I'm typeing and I do type pretty fast. It's not that I do not know how to spell, rather that I make many many typos.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I suspect you probably text a lot which can cause some bad habits. Here you have a handy preview key to check what you've written before hitting save. It's a good feature worth using. I also make keyboarding mistakes, in fact made one in an earlier post on this thread, and I always preview my work before saving. I'm a very slow editor! Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:56, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Trust me, compared to my other firends, I'm nothing (10,000 in a month, my God!) anyway, TBH, I hate "text language" even though I use it a lot. Have you not noticed that I my choice of words are very...well not teen-ish?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 02:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have noticed. But it's not so much the language but the actual keyboarding that creates weird habits. Texting quickly is transferred to typing quickly - that's what I meant. Anyway, I've made a few fixes. Have a look at how I changed the language, and then give it a try yourself on a few of the paragraphs. I'll watch the page and see how you do. Good luck. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 02:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that went without saying. Were they teenish, no one would have taken you seriously to begin with.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * So your saying that the only way that people take me seriously is becasue of my chioce of words. So If I were to start tlking like "OMG, i just got a article to ga status!!!!!! TTYL." then I would be blown off in regular discussions?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 02:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that you can take little dots on a map of an ocean and turn it into a narrative is worthy of respect. Don't worry about the rest. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 02:17, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. goodnight :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 02:18, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not at all, it simply meant you would be judged by your contributions without any prejudicing factors lol. And yes, if you started talking teen over at AN/I or AfD, you'd be taken a lot less seriously.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:20, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I had a feeling :) Thanks guys.-- White Shadows  you're breaking up 13:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 15:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!
Both for the vote of confidence and for the offer of support. I might take you up on it at some point, perhaps as just a third opinion. It seems that everywhere I turn, someone's telling me I'm wasting my time and some are less... diplomatic... than others, so thank you.


 * Aww. You did'nt need to award me for it HJ. Im happy to support the unblocking of anyone who can benefit this project. Your not wasteing your time but investing it in another editor. Kudos to that.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well thank you. For everything. On another note, would you mind striking your "captain pointy" remark- I understand your frustration (trust me, I do!) but it's not really helpful to the discussion. I'm not sure the discussion is going anywhere fast, but it would be nice to establish consensus for unblocking him under those restrictions at some point, even if the consensus deems it shouldn't be now. Best, HJ Mitchell  |  Penny for your thoughts?   01:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Very well. No need to fuel the flames I suppose. I do feel that he was trying to make a point in that argument however.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I sent you an email last night. Don't know if you've had chance to check it yet. Also, we "won" (so to speak). MW's been unblocked by Xeno. I might well find myself asking you for a third opinion at some point! Best, HJ Mitchell  |  Penny for your thoughts?   18:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "Ill check it now. Good luck my firend and I'll be at your service if you need it :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:09, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

OMG!!!
I appears SGF pwned my inbox with his latest sock puppet, sending me 50 blank messages. I have asked an admin to remove email access. ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 22:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Reply to your comments at HJ's talk page
I suppose I could have phrased it more diplomatically, but the sentiment behind it stands. It isn't ageism to notice that you occasionally have unsound judgement when it comes to editor interactions on Wikipedia. If there are reasons other than age why this is so, then my mistake. While this is usually easily overcome and corrected, and you can treat it as a learning experience, in this case if DG follows bad advice, he will end up indef blocked. HJ's task is nearly impossible as it is, don't make it harder. Also, NSD has been here 4 months, with almost 5000 edits; it's probably time to stop protecting him with WP:BITE. He gave spectacularly bad advice, and I tried to nip it in the bud.

I realize that any time now I will keel over in my old age, and a younger editor will have to take my place, and control of Wikipedia will pass to your generation. Until then, I suggest that you'll be more ready to take over if you take more care in how you handle yourself. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You just came off as a bit "mean" I guess. I understnad and I wish HJ the best in an impossible task. Yes, I do seem to be a drama magnet but I hope that no harm was caused in this discussion. No hard feelings. I just felt like you could have worded that better. I can watch from the sidelines and be the cheerleader this time around. One day, people like me will be the crats and the amdins and the CU's and so on and so forth. Let's just hope that that day is a long time away from now, for both of our sakes. (My Generaltion is not the sharpest crayon in the box if you know what I mean)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:New Mexico/GA1
What's going on here? It is still a fair way off being a GA and not much is happening.  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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Note to self
there is a studio recording for the song Idiot. (To everyone else. Sorry that this seems so random but I'm trying to work on the unreleased section for the List of Coldplay songs. I never knew that this song was recorded and I can use this page, and the one prior to it as a source to prove that it was recorded (along with a few other songs that were cut) for A Rush of Blood to the Head)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

External Website cited on U-43
Hi White Shadows,

I noticed that you had cited significant amount of content Specifically from uboat.net. When I had previously tried to do the same, I had got an earful when I used http://ww2.dk/ eventhough that website clearly provided the books it had referenced for its content. So I would be curious to know how you fare with the GA Review on this article. Do you mind letting me know ? TIA '  Perseus 71  talk 01:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well Uboat.net has been confirmed as a RS by several people such as Ed 17 and Bellhalla. See User:Bellhalla/uboat.net reliability for more.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:52, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Kriegsmarine offer.
I'll take you up on that. After all, I'm in desperate need of a GA, and Moscow Monorail is a bit tiring. Let's get moving! Buggie111 (talk) 02:16, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Great. However I'm fairly sick right now. It may take a while until I'm totaly commited to the task. I'll try to get some expansion done today though.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for German submarine U-43 (1939)

 * How do you get so many DYKs? ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 14:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm just awsome like that ;)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:48, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I will unravel the secret: . Detailed site about U-boats. IF you've got enough time, you can pretty muc hmake the article good or featured. I was looking for a GA... Buggie111 (talk) 15:00, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * So true. However take a look at U-43 and tell me how long do you think that it took me to get that article to that point. It takes literally HOURS to write these things.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 15:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Yup, I'm trying to do one right now with U-66. I just wonder why some of your work got past with no mention about uboat.net not being a source, and why some were failed, like U-43. I like Jezhotwells, but I don't want this to happen to me. Buggie111 (talk) 21:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason being is that some people (who are not into this field) judt don't think that the site is a RS. Trust me, it is and this has been re-affirmed by several people on this site who do edit naval articles. As long as someone who has a history in the field of U-boats is the GA reviewer, it will pass. See User:Bellhalla/uboat.net reliability for more if you'd like :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Spelling on List of Coldplay songs
Hello there! Just reminding you to spellcheck your edits -- I just corrected a bunch on List of Coldplay songs. Thanks! GorillaWarfare talk 19:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks GW. Sorry about that ;)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 19:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * No worries -- better to have content that's misspelled than nothing at all! GorillaWarfare  talk 19:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of German submarine U-43 (1939)
The article German submarine U-43 (1939) you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:German submarine U-43 (1939) for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that your mistaken over the reliability of that site. Anyway, I've replied on your own talk page.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:15, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I am persuaded by User:Bellhalla/uboat.net reliability, thanks for bring that to my attention. I would like to see some other sources though. I have placed the article back on hold as there are other issues to be addressed. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 00:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll try to get to that with in week but right now, with the record levels of pollen (of which I'm allergic to) coupled with the fact that I am very sick with a temperature of 101 degrees means that I may not be on that much for a few days.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I created a u-boat article!
Hello, White Shadows. I just created German submarine U-450, which might be of interest to you. I also joined WikiProject Ships. ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 23:51, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Good job ;) If you want to, you can model that article after a few of mine. See User:White Shadows/Sandbox.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * While you have just created your first U-boat stub, I've just got my 11th GA completed :) (Sorry if that sounded pompous, I did'nt mean it like that) do you need help with the article at all?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 02:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, White Shadows! Maybe it could get a DYK or GA. ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 02:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well it never sank any ships but a DYK is possible. I'll take a look at it. Can you write the rest fo the article though and then let me go over it and add in other stuff and sources ect? After all, this is "your" (however you do not own it) article and I don't want to be takeing credit from you for all the hard work that will be put into it. You my also want to create that other article that was suggested to you in an edit summary from U-450.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 03:00, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've also got Buggie111's help. The article that was mentioned in the edit summary was already created. Buggie spelled it wrong. ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 14:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well then I'll take a look at it now.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Questions:



 * I wonder if this person is related to the indef'ed User:Guitarherochristopher, based on the information on his userpage.  — Soap  —  00:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

How to link to a category without adding the current page to it
When you want to insert a page into a category, you surround the link with two brackets, like this:



But if you only want to link to the category, you have to "disable" the link by inserting a colon after the first pair of brackets:


 * Category:Sockpuppets of The Rabid Squirrel

This little trick works for images as well. Normally, if you want to include an image into a particular page, you just simply type a wikilink to that category. But if you only want to link to the image, you must add a colon before the first letter of the link.


 * Best wishes,  — Soap  —  00:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Soap. you always were helpful :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Just an addition from a random passerby: It works for interwikis as well. Airplaneman  ✈  05:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK then. Thanks.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 14:15, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Requests
Thanks for suggesting the Submarine article. It was so interesting. I will start work on the next one this evening. I also helped with Battle of Narva (1944) and it got GA yesterday. So exciting! I also got my 2000th edit today.

Have you ever run into user:Blablaaa? There is a big discussion at WP:AN about him being blocked by User:Nick-D that you might want to look at if you have time. You may have run into him on WWII related articles. Diannaa TALK 17:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The name does ring a bell but I cannot put my finger on it. I'll go and check it out. Anyway, thanks for the help and I'll be looking forward to working with you in the future. Keep up the good work, I'd be more than delighted to nominate you for adminship this fall if you'd like :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 17:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

U-38
Nice work on U-38. There was an effort to question the capt for war crimes for the Leukos. I haven't a ref to hand, but probably could get one. Are you interested? ClemMcGann (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I'm interested in bringing it to GA class if that's what you mean. Right now I'm adding in some notes.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 18:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sometimes adding info on one incident can disrupt the structure of an article. However its your call.  Read  good luck with GA - regards ClemMcGann (talk) 18:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not own anything. Any and all of my contribs to this site are in the PD. With that in mind, it's not my call. You can add it if you'd like :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 18:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nom query
Hi there; would be helpful to know why you removed my nomination from DYK here without comment. I obviously did something wrong, and would appreciate knowing what. Cheers, Ka renjc 23:00, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not even recall removeing your nom. This has happened before and I'm sorry for the inconvenience. I never meant to even comment on your nom, much less remove it :) sorry about that, you can re-add it.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know that sounded very odd but my CPU has been acting up lately, that may be the reason.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No prob, re-added now :) Ka renjc 08:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Think Zryini will get a GA soon?
I really hope so. I think it's pretty close, needing only a few more refs. If my nom of Erzherzog passes at DYK, than maybe I could go for a Four Award and an FT. We can joint nom Zryini if you want. Buggie111 (talk) 23:34, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Great! I'll be expanding the WWI section of that artilce right now. We'll nominate it for a GA tonight and once it passes, it's on to GTC.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

No mroe need to add a talkback to my page, i've got this one watched. Hope WWI goes out well, and I think the lead needs a bit of reqording. Buggie111 (talk) 23:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm finished. Can you add a few more citations to the post-war section and I'll reword the lead. Then we can nominate it for a GA.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Post-war is a direct DAnFS copy. I can reqord it, but only if you don't feel fine about DAANfs copying at the review. Buggie111 (talk) 00:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No no, you do not have to reword it. Just add in citations to every paraghraph in the section. Then I'll (or you) will nominate it. Everything else is done, just waiting for those citations.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm inquisitive. Do you mean just citing the DANFS page? Buggie111 (talk) 00:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * yup.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Buggie111 (talk) 00:10, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Great. I'm going to nominate it now....-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, just replace my name with yours on the talk page. Buggie111 (talk) 00:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a co-nom, we're both on there :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

What next?
I know you've got tons of U-boats out there still waiting to get GA stamped on them, but your writing of both Zryini and Erzherzog has made me want to ask you: Feel like joining WP:OMT? If you don't know already, it's an attempt to make the largest FT on Wikipedia, all about battleships. Most of the Austrian ones there are stubs, and I bet that with the work we (mostly you, I have to admit) put in on Zryini and Erzherzog (that was me and Parsec) being measured as a sterotype, we could easily make seveeral Ga's withina week.Let me know. Buggie111 (talk) 00:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hang on one sec. I'll get to you in a minute.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'll join. But I'm still going to be working on U-boats!-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * In other news, it's now a GTC located here: Featured topic candidates/Radetzky class battleship/archive1. Buggie111 (talk) 19:15, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Why not consider reviewing a FA or two. There is great need, it gets you into the FA area even though you are not ready to write FA articles, and you'll build up brownie points and earn respect which can only come back to do good things for you.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess.....Can you help me out with how to do something of that magnitude though?-- White Shadows you're breaking up 22:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Why don't you do the first one in your sandbox, of something that you are comfortable with, and I'll look it over. I'd read over WP:WIAFA and look at some reviews at WP:FAC in your shoes.  You can always back away if you don't feel comfortable.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:14, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I did make a comment over at Featured article candidates/Harrisburg, Illinois/archive2 just a minute ago. I hope that it was helpful.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a good start.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Best to ease in, learn the FA culture (read a couple of talk pages). Since I suspect that you'll want to bring a couple of these U boat GAs to FA one of these days... if you know how things work, you'll do fine.  I was fairly clueless my first couple of FAC's.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Your right on all accounts. Thanks. I'll try to learn from this....-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstand. I was praising that you did not attempted a long review, but made a short, appropriate comment.  I think it is fine to continue that way as you find your feet.  In other words, well done.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:28, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh. Well thanks :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:29, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

U-42
Hi, I have done copy edits on U-42 and left a couple of questions on the Talk Page. Diannaa TALK 02:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll take a look.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 10:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Name
Wait, hold on, were does he say he knows my real name? I am almost certain I have not divulged that information to anyone...and I've only known NSK for a few months. - Jakkinx | Talk | Sign! 04:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * He e-mailed me saying that your name was....well I will not say it but it begins with a "B".-- White Shadows you're breaking up 10:42, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...email me a copy of the email, I'll have a look at it. Did he give any reasons as to how he knew?  - Jakkinx | Talk | Sign!  23:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I deleted it. If I ever get one again, I'll forward it to you.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay then. But no reasons? - Jakkinx | Talk | Sign!  03:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 10:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I sent him an email, and he responded saying he didn't have any idea what my name was, and that he didn't send you an email in the first place. (Just wondering if it's you who really knows my real name...0_o) - Jakkinx | Talk | Sign!  17:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You e-mailed SGF!?! Great, now he knows your e-mail adress. He's also lieing. I had no clue about you name until he sent me an e-mail. He may have laied about your name though....-- White Shadows you're breaking up 21:03, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Jakkinx also emailed me saying sometning about me emailing WS about his real name. I replied back with something similar. If SGF now knows Jakkinx's email, then that could mean email bombing for the rest of the universe. Jakknix is doomed! ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 21:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. And trust me guys. I'm you friend. (As silly as it may sound since we never met nor ever will) If I ever knew your name, I would never tell anyone unless you told me to....-- White Shadows you're breaking up 22:03, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I just got the first taste of this myself, and I notice the email address is the same as the one that he used last year, on his original account. (we communicated through email a bit)  So it seems likely to me that if he used the same email address for a very early account and a much more recent one, he probably used the same email address for all the ones in between.  So you could block out all of his emails from all accounts simply by blocking the true originating email address.  (Provided that your email provider has filtering ... but almost every one does nowadays.)  I might be wrong, though; I'm going to have to test it myself before I can be confident that this will work.   —  Soap  —  22:46, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * yeah, it works. To anyone being email bombed by SGF under any account: if your email provider has filtering capabilities, look for a filter that allows you blacklist certain senders and then add [sciencegolffanatic's underlying email address] to the blacklist.  That should block out his emails, no matter which Wikipedia account they come from.   —  Soap  —  22:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have it on a filter but they are not deleted automatically....-- White Shadows you're breaking up 22:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yahoo email allows automatic deletion, but I prefer to just send them to a spam folder because I'd like to at least be aware of them and the email storage is, as far as I know, unlimited.  —  Soap  —  23:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I've set up a rule on OS X Mail to move the messages with SGF's email to a folder and mark them as read so my inbox doesn't have a huge number of unread messages on it. ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 23:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Same here. Mine's called "Trash" and if I ever see anything in it, I take one look at the crap he writes to me and then delete it. It takes a whole 3 seconds.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:23, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

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Cleanup Babenburg?
I've added a DYK applicable amount to SMS Babenberg, butit's 3KB less than Habsburg. could you go over and copyedit my little probs and maybe expand it some more. My only non-us-book battleship ref is Jane's which is getting pounded at the OMT discussion page. Buggie111 (talk) 00:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'll go and fix it up and possibly add more to it.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's make the hook contain all three of these pages in one hook as well.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

ok. and add the part about Goeben and so forth to Habsurg and Arpad. Buggie111 (talk) 00:40, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Leads in the Habsubrgs
It just occured to me that we need longer leads for those articles. Shouldn't be hard. And I've nominated Babenberg for a DYK.After the Teghetthoffs, I'll continue my off-wiki work on Germn submarine U-66 (1940) and might ask you to check my sources. Cheers! Buggie111 (talk) 00:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'll be more than happy to help :) And as for the leads, do you mind if you do them? I'm not that good with leads. Thanks :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've made the noms have all the articles in them and given you nom credit fro the Arpad and the Habsburg as well as make credit for the Babenburg while I get make credit for all of them. How's that? Oh and can you please add in the little dash things above the A's in "Arpad" in the hook and the whole template in the DYK for me? MY computer will not let me copy it in there.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:53, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm fine. Buggie111 (talk) 00:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you still fix the name of the ship in the hook? Just copy the name of it (Arpad) from the article and paste it anywhere that appears in the edit screen in DYK. That will be the last thing needed ;) Thanks.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * you still left the ones in the hidden text :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. Wonder how I missed them... Buggie111 (talk) 01:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I fyou hevan't seen the reviews, the part about part of the superstructure being removed has a cite needed tag. Since you added it to most of them, could you go fix it? I'll copyedit them later today. Buggie111 (talk) 17:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'll take a look :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 20:25, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for colorado highway
Since I'm too lay to plop down talkback, I've finished the sourcing. Pass or fail it, your choice. Buggie111 (talk) 01:42, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Pass. Let me go and fix that now...-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Living Age article name
LAst thing we need beofre GA is approved. Could you find hte article name for The Living Age ref? I oculdn't find it in books. Thanks,Buggie111 (talk) 02:20, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * sure. I'll try to do it tonight.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 10:56, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

 * Aw thanks!-- White Shadows you're breaking up 13:51, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Netherlands passes
Battle of Netherlands passed it GA review moments ago. Good job, White Shadows! I hope to get another opportunity to work with you soon. Diannaa TALK 13:20, 26 April 2010 (UTC) Sorry I dont know why my remark got posted above your photo. A mystery Diannaa  TALK 13:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Diannaa. I look forward to cooperateing with you as well :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 22:07, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

ScienceGolfFanatic has been taken down (for now)
After receiving more email bombs today, I decided enough was enough. I had sweep through Sockpuppet investigations/ScienceGolfFanatic/Archive and email block all of the remaining accounts that weren't already email blocked. Hopefully we won't get anything bad from SGF anytime soon. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ message • changes) 22:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. If I ever become an admin, this would be a lot faster. Anway thanks for sweeping through those accounts :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:03, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's nice to have an admin like Elockid, who is experienced with dealing with sock puppets. While we're here, I now have two DYK's and my most recent submission recently got ticked. I also redid my userpage to look similar to yours. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ message • changes) 23:23, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. good job. your on you way "dude". Now if you'd excuse me, I'm heading over to 42 and trying to get this thing set up for a DYK.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:26, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Question
Hey White Shadows. I had a question for you, based on your extensive work on WWII articles. For a writing project I am looking into pursuing (outside of Wikipedia), I need to read up a bit about the history of World War II in Poland, particularly how the country was affected after the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. I am less interested in the specific battles than I am about how ordinary citizens were affected, and about how the Polish Jews survived during that time. Can you direct me to any good historical writings or literature on this topic? Or direct me to someone who can? Thanks! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  04:18, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello Hunter Kahn. First off, I think that you mean the Soviet Invasion of 1939, not 1941. By 1941, the USSR was being invaded by Germany. I'll answer the question in a sec. sorry for the inconvinience :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 22:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have a few books on the subject about Poland under both German and Soviet Occupation. The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich by William L. Shirer is a good one to try out. There's also Killing Hitler, that talks alot about the Polish underground. I'll try to get back with you in more depth about this question tomorrow. I'm very buisy IRL right now with school and all. Perhaps tomorrow or later this week I may be able to have more time to help you out. If you want, you can also go to a few other people like Ed. User:Buzzzsherman also has a ton of WWII related books in his hands. Onwe of them is bound to mention Poland.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for German submarine U-450
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

All-Around Amazing Barnstar

 * Thanks NSD! I'll add that into my userpage later today ;)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 10:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Another U-boat article
I just created SM UB-50, a German U-boat from World War I. You you be willing to help me expand it? ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ message • changes) 16:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * sure :)-- White Shadows you're breaking up 22:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Count me in also. Buggie111 (talk) 22:34, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Minor thing, there is no link to the patrols on u-boat net, so it's going to take a while to find them. Buggie111 (talk) 22:35, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The Triple Entente is on the move again!-- White Shadows you're breaking up 22:36, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

K, after a look at the Ships Hit page, I've been able to lay out the patrols: Hope this helps, WS and NSD. Buggie111 (talk) 22:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) 8 Sep 1917-26 Sep 1917 First
 * 2) 28 Oct 1917-9 Nov 1917 Second
 * 3) 19 Dec 1917-7 Jan 1918 Third
 * 4) 22 Mar 1918-11 Apr 1918 Fourth
 * 5) 17 May 1918-25 May 1918 Fifth
 * 6) 13 Jul 1918-13 Jul 1918 Sixth
 * 7) 9 Nov 1918 Seventh (already covered)
 * Thanks Buggie!-- White Shadows you're breaking up 01:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have a hook suggestion on my talk page, if you're interested. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ message • changes) 03:23, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

GTC for the Habsburgs
All three of them passed/ Since I'm busy now, could you nominate them for a GTC? Buggie111 (talk) 13:51, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure I'll do it in a few minutes.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 21:14, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ done. See Featured topic candidates/Habsburg class battleships/archive1.-- White Shadows you're breaking up 23:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, you have another one. Radetzky passed. Buggie111 (talk) 00:12, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. I already have 160 points in the WikiCup and round 3 only just began!-- White Shadows you're breaking up 00:41, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for SMS Habsburg
Materialscientist (talk) 16:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for SMS Babenberg
Materialscientist (talk) 16:05, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for SMS Árpád
Materialscientist (talk) 16:05, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 April newsletter
Round two is over, and we are down to our final 32. For anyone interested in the final standings (though not arranged by group) this page has been compiled. Congratulations to, our clear overall round winner, and to and , who were solidly second and third respectively. There were a good number of high scorers this round- competition was certainly tough! Round three begins tomorrow, but anything promoted after the end of round two is eligible for points. 16 contestants (eight pool leaders and eight wildcards) will progress to round four in two months- things are really starting to get competitive. Anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Judge iMatthew has retired from Wikipedia, and we wish him the best. The competition has been ticking over well with minimal need for judge intervention, so thank you to everyone making that possible. A special thank you goes to participants and  for their help in preparing for round three. Good luck everyone! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 17:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)