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Please comment on Talk:Basilica of Saint Mary Major
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I am critical of the process Whiteguru's comments are not based on a fact. He states "English speakers say "Mary Major"; I challenge anyone to to a google search for Travel books and guides using Mary Major Travel versus those using Maria Maggiore Travel. By far, the term to refer to the Roman church, used by Fodors, Lets Go, DK guides, Lonely Planet, Mobile Reference, and others is Maria Maggiore, not Mary Major. Only Mobile Reference uses both terms.

For this reason and many other stated above:
 * The statement: English speakers in Rome do in fact use "Mary Major" when speaking English, not "Maria Maggiore". is false.


 * The statement: They would think it a little odd to say: "I'm going to Santa Maria Maggiore." is false.

Rococo1700 (talk) 13:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The statement by Whiteguru that implies that Maria Maggiore is the term used for Italians. When in Rome... is false. It is the term that is used by English speakers, wherever, as the guides and texbooks indicate. I challenge Whiteguru to come up with evidence to the contrary. Wikipedia is supposed to house facts, not invented novel research. Whiteguru is making facts up in his conclusion.


 * Please see http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/how-pope-francis-spent-his-first-24-hours-after-conclave
 * This uses the term "St Mary Major" Whiteguru (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Have you considered the possibility that the article was posted by someone who was influenced by this new wikipedia page? I think the first line of the article should now read that there is a controversy about the misnaming of this church, and we should cite these conversations.

Again, I do not put only weight in the newest article but in he volume and breadth of scholarship and general common use. On accuracy of terminology. 1) Maria Maggiore does not translate to Mary Major. 2) This is not common use, though wikipedia may force the change, a policy that violates the wikipedia policy of new research. If wikipedia fosters the use of a new name, that does not mean that the name is the right one.

Again you marshal an article from 24 hours ago, after wikipedia has been fostering this new name to appear in google searches. What you fail to do is to justify this name as the one in use say over the last fifty or one hundred years in the English speaking world. Again this is getting to be very problematic and I will refer this to other editors to correct. You are not weighing evidence. Please use google books and find out how many modern travel books, how many history books, how many art books use the term St Mary Major versus how many use Maria Maggiore. I think by what you are doing, you epitomize much of what is wrong with wikipedia. You claim appeal to a rule but ignore another one. (whenever possible a name should used the english translation, but you do not have an english translation, so you make up a name!)

You tout knowledge of the one news citationa in the last days, after YOU change the google search for Santa Maria Maggiore so that the second item that appears, that of wikipedia reads St Mary Major. The first, by the way, www.vatican.va/various/basiliche/sm_maggiore/index_en.html cites Santa Maria Maggiore in English. The question is now open, is wikipedia now changing the language to favor the jargon of people who make statements like:


 * The statement: English speakers in Rome do in fact use "Mary Major" when speaking English, not "Maria Maggiore". is false.

Again, my question to you is whether this statment is true or false, and you cannot use a news item from when after Wikipedia started touting the somewhat arbitrary (since it does not translate) of Santa Maria Maggiore. I have no doubt that this is false, and I gave you evidence.

Please you need to start answering questions with a priori facts. By a priori, I want facts before Wikipedia started calling this St Mary Major.

Rococo1700 (talk) 01:33, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:Kim Davis (county clerk)
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New deal for page patrollers
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New Challenge for Oceania and Australia
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Fair Use in Australia discussion
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Fair Use in Australia campaign update
I'm writing you this followup message, as you took the time to vote in support of a Wikipedia banner campaign for the introduction of Fair Use in Australia.

After much planning and coordination with the WMF, Australian Digital Alliance, and Electronic Frontiers Australia, as of Monday the banner-campaign is active on English Wikipedia to a portion of logged-out readers in Australia (technical details). The banners direct people to this page on Meta: FairCopyrightOz. That page, alongside lots of information, further directs people towards the campaign website faircopyright.org.au where Australians are invited to write to their local MP to express support of Fair Use. If you are interested in supporting this campaign, please, send a letter yourself using the template letter provided at that link.

Furthermore, and with the support of the ADA & EFA, we have received fantastic media coverage - with article "Fair Use: Wikipedia targets Australians in bid to change the law" appearing on page 2 of the Sydney Morning Herald and page 10 of the Melbourne Age on Monday's edition. It was for a time the 3rd most read article the Fairfax website, and Fair Use was "trending" on Twitter in Australia. We are running the account @FairCopyrightOz on twitter, and we are tracking other press-mentions on the talkpage on Meta.

Today, day 2, we published a detailed post about the campaign on the Wikimedia Blog, ran an "Ask Me Anything" Q&A session on the Australia page in Reddit, and [by happy coincidence of timing] the article History of fair use proposals in Australia appeared on the en.wp mainpage as a Did You Know. [The creation of that "history of..." article was a specific request arising from in the community consultation in which you voted].

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Sincerely, Wittylama 16:58, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red World Contest
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