User talk:Whooligunn

Speedy deletion nomination of Whooligunn
Hello Whooligunn,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Whooligunn for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:08, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Whooligunn, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. — Smjg (talk) 01:24, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Richard Gunn
I will continue to press for the deletion of the article. However, Gunn is best known for his participation in the BYU serial, Granite Flats. Adding Gunn's bio to that page should not pose a problem if it is formatted in a way that makes room for the other cast members. WriterWithNoName (talk) 17:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Please familiarize yourself with this page: Notability WriterWithNoName (talk) 08:39, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Specifically - Notability (people) WriterWithNoName (talk) 13:52, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia basic criteria for notablility: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published[4] secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other,[5] and independent of the subject.[6]" This person meets these criteria. Please see "References" section of page. Whooligunn (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Being part of a list in an article is not being notable. The Dark Angel Wiki does not even establish Sketchy as an important character. WriterWithNoName (talk) 17:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You can be rest assured that I will check all of it. WriterWithNoName (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a record of accomplishment, not fame. That is the yardstick in which I go by. WriterWithNoName (talk) 18:00, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

There is significant record of accomplishment here. The criteria you should go by are the Wikipedia guidelines. Wikipedia's definition of Notablility is as follows: "Notability is the property of being worthy of notice, having fame, or being considered to be of a high degree of interest, significance, or distinction. It also refers to the capacity to be such. Persons who are notable due to public responsibility, accomplishments, or, even, mere participation in the celebrity industry are said to have a public profile.[1]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notability. Please do check the reference sources so that you can be better informed. Calvin "Sketchy" Theodore is actually listed as one of the "Main Characters" on Dark Angel's Wiki. Refer to the following links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Angel_%28TV_series%29#Cast_and_characters ("Cast and Characters" section) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dark_Angel_characters#Calvin_.22Sketchy.22_Theodore. Make sure to especially pay attention to the Huffington Post article which refers to Gunn as a celebrity. & the Entertainment Tonight online clip. Or better yet look up the acceptance of the People's Choice Award for Dark Angel and note that he is on stage accepting the award on video here: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=peoples+choice+award+dark+angel&FORM=HDRSC3#view=detail&mid=B42071FA51ECF7ADBFA9B42071FA51ECF7ADBFA9. Fans are petitioning for the return of Dark Angel who post on Gunn's Twitter daily page https://twitter.com/RichardGunnInc. He was in 42 episodes out of the 44 total episodes of Dark Angel. Watch his work - it's available all over the world, most recently on Netflix the 3rd season of Hemlock Grove and all 3 Seasons of Granite Flats and get a sense of his fan base before attempting to delete this page again for lack of notablility. Whooligunn (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

You continue to remove what is part of an administrative process. Fame does NOT equal notability. Accomplishment is not simply landing an acting job. WriterWithNoName (talk) 18:28, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

You are correct that "Accomplishment is not simply landing an acting job". However, this actor has appeared in leading and significant roles in over 100 films and television episodes which absolutely equals accomplishment. And if you would have taken the time to read the link I included in my previous message, Wikipedia defines Notability as "Notability is the property of being worthy of notice, having fame, or being considered to be of a high degree of interest, significance, or distinction. It also refers to the capacity to be such. Persons who are notable due to public responsibility, accomplishments, or, even, mere participation in the celebrity industry are said to have a public profile.[1]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notability. So according to Wikipedia, having fame is a part of Notability. Your opinion that "Fame does NOT equal notablility" is merely your opinion and therefore is irrelevant here. Wikipedia's "guide to deletion" recommends the following before nominating an article for deletion: "First do the necessary homework and look for sources yourself, and invite discussion on the talk page by using the template, if you are disputing the notability of an article's subject. The fact that you haven't heard of something, or don't personally consider it worthy, are not criteria for deletion. You must look for, and demonstrate that you couldn't find, any independent sources of sufficient depth." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_deletion Whooligunn (talk) 22:17, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * It was you who arbitrarily made changes without following "protocol". This should have all been discussed on the articles talk page. Much of this has already been settled there. WriterWithNoName (talk) 22:23, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * So, are you Jenna Mattison? WriterWithNoName (talk) 14:21, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

You mean Jenna Mattison, Richard Gunn's wife? I wish! 97.93.68.76 (talk) 16:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * LOL. WriterWithNoName (talk) 16:37, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * She has been trolling the internet in defense of her hubby. I thought detected similarities. WriterWithNoName (talk) 16:40, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I see that you're up in Lake Arrowhead this weekend. Your IP address leads back to the Charter Communications ISP in town. Thanks for playing! http://cabletv.com/blog/exclusive-interview-with-richard-gunn-of-hemlock-grove/ WriterWithNoName (talk) 19:50, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * If you are in fact Jenna Mattison (and I am 99% certain that you are), your edits to the Richard Gunn Wiki would appear to be a violation of Wikipedia's Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia guidelines. However, since I have already gone over all of the edits contained within the article, I won't object to the article as a whole, and wouldn't object to your further editing the page, provided that you disclose said COI on the Gunn talk page. If you refuse, any further edits by you will be brought to the attention of Wikipedia administrators. WriterWithNoName (talk) 20:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)