User talk:WickiupHill

William Abbe
Your "experiment" worked, but why is this guy important? Seb az86556 (talk) 17:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of William Abbe
A tag has been placed on William Abbe requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

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William Abbe / Inline citations and more...
Hello. So I removed the deletion-tag. The article still needs a bit of work, otherwise someone will probably come across it in the future and mark it again (probably not for "speedy deletion" but for some sort of discussion as to whether it's worth keeping or not).


 * inline citations would be nice (click here> WP:IC)
 * can we find a photo of the guy? the region? one of the places with his name? (Has to be free of copyright)
 * should any other article be linked to it? (All the places you mentioned -- do they have articles?)
 * can you find more than just one brochure on the topic?

Seb az86556 (talk) 18:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I appreciate your feedback and I agree it could use some more work. I am attempting to track down further resources, photos and all that. I meant for it to be a subpage on my user page to fool around with until I could get the further info...but appartently I made it live while trying to familiarize myself with editing on Wikipedia. I am creating an article for Abbe Creek School, which is still on my user page. I'd appeaciate any feedback you may have on that one. I think it's almost ready to go. WickiupHill (talk) 18:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Using inline citations
Hi -- this sounds complicated, but actually makes it easier for readers:


 * when using inline citations, put your reference between, not just a number, for example


 * when using the same source more then once, give it a name the first time (can be any name), then keep using the short form. Example:
 * (from then on, you simply use in the text without having to repeat the whole deal in the middle)
 * (from then on, you simply use in the text without having to repeat the whole deal in the middle)


 * at the bottom, just put -- that will automatically create your list, and it will update it, number it in order of appearance, and will "grow as you go".

The neat thing is it makes the small numbers 1 2 3 4 "clickable" and will jump to the reference on the list. Look at the edit I made to your testpage. Seb az86556 (talk) 05:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

(I see you've already moved it to main space. I'll try to mess around with that list to make it look better...) Seb az86556 (talk) 05:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Infoboxes for Abbe + Abbe school
I built some infoboxes for the articles to make them look better. When you open the article to "edit" the (maybe confusing-looking) code for the boxes comes first. Just ignore it, scroll down, and edit if you have something to add. Seb az86556 (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Again, I appreciate your assistance. Thanks for the tutorial.

...and by the way
About that speedy deletion-tag posted by another user yesterday... wikipedia has a "Recent Changes Patrol." All changes and new articles pop up at the speed of seconds in a seemingly endless list. Any user can do "The Patrol." And as you know, any user can write articles. You wouldn't believe what unbearable crap people try to post articles on... personal attacks, self-glorification, their pets, outright hoaxes... (quite educational to bring your cursing-vocabulary up to date...) So when somebody has seen about 1,000 pieces of irrelevant junk over the previous 15 minutes... go figure. Seb az86556 (talk) 16:21, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Then double thanks for taking time to tweak my articles and singling them out for a little facelift. Is creating the infoboxes very difficult? I see them on many pages but I couldn't glean hot to create them from the buttons atop the article editing page... WickiupHill (talk) 20:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Those buttons only give the most-used basics.
 * The code and description for "the mother of all infoboxes" is here: Template:infobox (bottom of page).
 * From that, people have created all sorts of variations "ready-to-use" for different purposes.
 * There's a whole library of them:[Category:Infobox_templates].


 * I used "Infobox Person" for William Abbe.


 * For the school and the list of teachers, I just built'em from scratch... couldn't find anything useful... If Abbe Creek School is actually registered as a historical landmark or site of historical significance with some government agency, I can change it to the "official" box:Template:Infobox_Historic_Site/doc


 * Seb az86556 (talk) 21:31, 30 July 2009 (UTC)