User talk:Widr/Archive 9

Spoiler alert is needed...
Those who have seen the film are ware to mentioned car crash only towards the end. This is the emotional peak of the movie, resolving the two separate story lines. Those who read this fact unintentionally before viewing the film are robbed from the cathartic experience... Aren't spoiler alerts standard feature of "plot" sections in film entries? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoelf (talk • contribs) 07:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:FILMPLOT. Widr (talk) 10:12, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013
Point taken--Vladismeer (talk) 10:58, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

the adittions to sophia bush and jaffrey was just a mistake  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.42.204.54 (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Swami Harideva
You removed a addition I made to Swami Harideva's page. I added something to this sentence. Swami Harideva died in the Haridwar, India foothills in March 2009. I changed it to Swami Harideva died from choking on a hamburger in the Haridwar, India foothills in March 2009.

I dont know why you changed it, I was there at the time of his death and this is what happened. Swami Harideva was invited to an ashram for dinner, in an act of rebellion as he was known to love, he brought with him a hamburger he had brought with him from a restaurant in Delhi's Pahar Ganj. He bit into the burger as a show of defiance not intending on eating it just to make a point. He was laughing and I guess he reflexively swallowed and the burger piece got stuck in his windpipe. We desperately tried to revive him to no avail. A great man was dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.5.176 (talk) 19:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

180.200.185.105 (talk) 06:17, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

need'st
Re - Arthur Hugh Clough

Widr, There is no such word as NEED'ST. That word is "needst" in the Poem; or maybe you are thinking of "needn't" ? Needst was/is an archaic past usage of need.

I don't care about the omission of that added text in Brackets, except that the article is supposed to be about a Poet's work, etc., and as such, would apparently need to be reasonably literate in English usage. However, IF "... The Latest Decalogue, a satirical take on the Ten Commandments." is Yours as well, then with regret I must say that Idoubt that you understand the difference between Irony and Satire.

I had included this in the TALK section of the referenced page - "I have corrected the apostrophe and added the text in Brackets in - 'The Latest Decalogue's couplet on murder, "Thou shalt not kill; but needst not strive officiously to keep alive:" is often quoted in debates on medical ethics in the sense that it is not right to struggle to keep terminally ill people alive, especially if they are suffering. (The poem read in full has an ironic tone.)' The word is 'needst', and 'need'st' was wrong. I have added the text in parentheses because the couplet 'often quoted' might even be said to be 'popularly mis-quoted' given the rest of the Peom and the ironic sense of its commentary on the Ten Commandments-revised. Thank you. JM"

I regret having disturbed your work. Cheerio. JM
 * You may readd your corrections. But please, don't leave your signature to the article. That was the main reason I reverted your contribution. Widr (talk) 06:49, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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I commend the following minimalist re-draft for your re-consideration - I shall not re-add anything. That "need'st" is WRONG. DRAFT - Clough is perhaps best known now for his short poems Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth, a rousing call to tired soldiers to keep up the good fight, Through a Glass Darkly, an exploration of religious doubt, and The Latest Decalogue, an ironical take on the Ten Commandments. The Latest Decalogue's couplet on murder, "Thou shalt not kill; but needst not strive / Officiously to keep alive:" is popularly reiterated by advocates of Euthanasia.

It's still 'too prolix' ... Fundamentally, the third of his poems is NOT really 'known' - that 'commandment' is often quoted, but most often quoted out of its Ironic context. That makes it an excellent example of Irony, indeed. Ah whatever, ... Keep Smiling ... JM

p.s. Kindly note that, in fact, I appended "JM" to the TALK Section of my explanation of the omission of the apostrophe and the addition of the sentence in Brackets, and that I did NOT include it in the substantive Article.
 * I was referring to this. Widr (talk) 11:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

WIDR, is this link supposed to SHOW me where it was that you asserted that I included my initials / "signed" THE ARTICLE ?? It does not. You said before - "You may readd [sic] your corrections. But please, don't leave your signature to the article. That was the main reason I reverted your contribution." So rhetorically, I can only wonder what indeed was the 'main reason' for that reversion - maybe an Aversion to others' fiddling ?? AND relating to my views about it all being 'too prolix', consider this IF it is also your own - "... illustrating this point of view; it is unclear whether Robertson was aware ... " - HOW is a point actually "illustrated" by such idle speculation ?? Given that Robertson QC is a polymath and as erudite as he is, I should have started from a presumption of innocence [ !!] that he DOES indeed KNOW exactly what Clough wrote in the full Poem, in GR_QC's quoting that 6th Commandment-Redux (that does depend on the [debatable] numbering, cited later).

If you might just FIX "needst" and then we can all relax. Go in Peace ! JM 121.127.213.41 (talk) 11:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There was indeed "180.200.185.105 (talk) 01:44, 24 June 2013 (UTC)", in other words your signature, at the bottom of the page. That is what I am referring to. It's not a big deal, but such additions don't belong to articles. Like I said, if you want to, you can readd the correction you wanted to make to the article. Widr (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

We are evidently talking at Cross-Purposes, Widr, because somethink with a Tab which says "TALK", to me is NOT the Tab to the immediate left of "Talk", which is clearly labelled "Article". I simply do NOT understand what you are getting at: you assert something is so, and cannot accept that another would see it differently or cannot understand your assertion: to me the Tab "Talk" is Not the Tab "Article". From the very outset, out of attempted politeness when I am not a registered 'editor', I DID EXPLAIN and I DID INITIALLED the text that I put onto the "Talk" page. I did Not put my initials on the "Article" Tabbed page which I had edited by correcting "need'st" [sic] as well as my adding a clarification that references to "satire" were reaLLY "IRONY . You seem to be utterly preoccupied by this "JM" issue only, without any regard for the substantive CORRECTIONS that I proposed, and particularly you seem unable to accept that "need'st" is in need of correction.  Whether "need'st" is your work or another's, I simply re-assert that your Reversion from "needst" back to "need'st" is UTTERLY DAFT. Now, I give up: Congratulations, lets all say that You have 'Won' !! If I ever imagined that I might seriously become a registered 'editor' of Wikipedia, you WIDR have convinced me - I consider that Marx WAS correct - I should Never wish to join any group which invited me to join.  Like Marx, I shall not be taking up your invitation to 'readd' [sic] (or to re-add) to what I can only presume must be your life's best perfected handiwork, never to be reconsidered. And, That was Groucho, of course !! Signed, over and out; Thou needst never trouble thy oddly fix-ed mind-set. JM 180.200.184.97 (talk) 11:48, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

/* State and federal government */
Arthur Hulbert was recently elected State Representative District 14. George Faught is no longer the Representative. Dice Dawson is a Northeastern State University Hall of Fame Actor/Comedian from Muskogee,who has held 23 Annual tennis tournaments. This year's tournament is September 21st. Dice is Internationally known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dealindice (talk • contribs) 17:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please format your additions correctly. They were all over the place in the article. Widr (talk) 17:40, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks for the protection! Widr (talk) 19:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! I appreciate it. Widr (talk) 04:27, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Filemover
I have granted file mover rights to your account following either a request for those rights or a clear need for the ability to move files. For information on the file mover rights and under what circumstances it is okay to move files, see File mover. If you do not want file mover rights anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. INeverCry  17:27, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Widr (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Arka Media Works
Dear Sir,

The Company Name is "Arka Mediaworks" So please kindly change the name of the article

Sorry For the Inconvience Please do look into the matter and change the name of the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepak Alone (talk • contribs) 13:44, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. I checked the official homepage, and both "Arka Media Works" and "Arka Mediaworks" are listed there. Their Twitter account says "Arka Mediaworks", but on YouTube they are called "Arka Media Works". I don't think we need to rename the article, but you might want to add that there is also that alternative way to write the name. Widr (talk) 13:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Most other fighting game articles do not feature a "cast-list". In fact, when cast lists are added, they are usually swiftly removed. I don't see why Playstation All-Stars should be any different. 88.109.19.46 (talk) 18:17, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please see your talk page. I replied there. Widr (talk) 18:18, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

the dream- Terius Nash
the content added for the dream is correct. see below websites that indicate proof. girlfriend/fiancee; Lydia Nam they have 1 child together- a boy she is Canadian and is unemployed and known to be an escort.

http://thedirty.com/2012/09/the-dreams-new-girlfriend/

http://missxpose.com/tag/lydia-seung-nam/

http://missxpose.com/2013/06/the-dream-is-reportedly-expecting-twins-with-girlfriend-lydia-nam/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.3.79.141 (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * When you are adding information, you also have to add the source to the article. Widr (talk) 17:18, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

kamineni page
i believe the changes i made were more accurate than what is listed currently — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.187.192.10 (talk) 20:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Novak Djokovic

 * 1. Edit warring is not vandalism WP: NOT VANDALISM
 * 2. User DragonLair04 has been engaged in the edit war too, but you have not put the warning template on his talk page. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoDu (talk • contribs) 13:43, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * 1. If you are referring to the edit summary, that's the default text by STiki.
 * 2. That is true, and I have done it now. Widr (talk) 14:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Philosopher's Way of McLaren Park, in San Francisco, CA
Existing text is a word-for-word cut & paste job from the San Francisco Arts Commission's webpage on same topic. Most text was removed to prevent possible copyright infringement action from the Commission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coliggo (talk • contribs) 21:13, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining. Please use the edit summary in future to help others know why you are removing content. Widr (talk) 04:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Editing - Whodunnit?
Widr,

My intent was to add in the episode 2 information like it is shown now and usually I don't have any troubles with it. For some reason, when I posted/published it - the chart starting looking funny. Again I apologize for any inconvenience and my intent was meant to be useful. Was it truly me or was there another user editing while you and I were trying to edit it?

Thanks again for making it work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.17.225.127 (talk) 06:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, I reverted edits by another IP just before you added yours. Widr (talk) 06:12, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks! You too. Widr (talk) 19:51, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Mark André article
Hi Sorry, I'm a bit of a n00b with Wiki editing, i was looking for help RE: sourcing of bios and collating sources and what is best practice in this area, particularly because in the English language the page is very bare. As I feel that composers21 bio is quite good and it is even referenced in his birth date I though I would use it. Do you have any suggestions regarding this, paraphrasing or a translation of the German one which is much better and more detailed than the English. Thank You Purebeta (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, don't worry. Translation from German Wikipedia is fine, or you can use bits of Composers bio too. Just remember not to copy it word to word, as that may violate the copyrights. Widr (talk) 19:35, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Larks' Tongues In Aspic
Regarding the correct songwriting credit for the song "Exiles"... John Wetton always claimed to have contributed the song's bridge, and the credits on the most recent 40th Anniversary box set have been amended to reflect this. I'm looking at it right now: Cross, Fripp, Wetton, Palmer-James. That's why I corrected it on the page.
 * OK, that is fine, thanks for explaining. Just please don't add "& allsorts" back to the article, as that doesn't sound too encyclopedic, and was actually the reason I reverted your edit. Widr (talk) 20:38, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, but "Percussion & Allsorts" is exactly how Jamie Muir's credit reads on the album...

Philippine National Bank
Please note that your revert on this page actually ended up adding copyrighted material to the article. Please be careful of reverts you make, especially when no apparent reason for it is given. Edit Summaries are a good habit, but not everyone follows them. Please be careful about it the next time, because you are responsible for your own edits.

Cheers,

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:33, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. In return, may I suggest that you try to sound a little more neutral when you mass post these messages both to newbies and more experienced editors. No offence, and I know it may look good on your resume, but some might find your patronizing tone a bit annoying. Widr (talk) 05:55, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

aleister crawley
Widr i am a muslim and i have good knowledge about religion many religions i know what i was doing this is very bad stuff i want to remove all bad things from internet specially from wikipedia because wikipedia is widely read encyclopedia and it allows us to edid things. so i will do what i think is good you can do what ever you like. and i am going to delete some more stuff once more time. thanks
 * I suggest that you explain in the edit summary why you are removing content. Unexplained removals without valid reasons are considered vandalism and they may get you blocked from editing. Widr (talk) 18:54, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

recent contributions to RVCA
From IP 41.164.22.194

Hi, I have never modified this page but I just got your message. My ISP uses NAT, so well over a hundred users share my IP. Naturally I have no control over what any of the others sharing this IP do. I would not make a 'contribution' to wikipedia that isn't constructive.

Anyway, thanks for doing positive work on wikipedia and for correcting the de-constructive change whoever is sharing my IP made.
 * Thanks! That's the unfortunate problem with shared IPs. Widr (talk) 20:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi, thanks a lot for the encouragement and all the help! I'll apply for autopatrolled status as you suggested. :) Yakikaki (talk) 15:54, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations!

 * Thanks for this. Widr (talk) 06:34, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

95.45.27.51
Hello, "Widr", I'm 95.45.27.51, and I feel your undoings were unnecessary. All I was doing was adding more information. In fact it appears as though a majority agree with my doings, to quote what you felt was not "constructive":

''09:07, 9 July 2013 (diff | hist). . (+24)‎ . . Colton Haynes ‎ (→‎External links)''

''09:02, 9 July 2013 (diff | hist). . (+3)‎ . . Colton Haynes ‎ (Undid revision 563433113 by Edenc1 (talk))''

''16:49, 7 July 2013 (diff | hist). . (+23)‎ . . Colton Haynes ‎ (Undid revision 563097854 by Edenc1 (talk))''


 * Please don't add unsourced content, especially if it may violate Wikipedia's BLP policies. Also note that you are currently engaged in an WP:EDITWAR and close to violating WP:3RR. Widr (talk) 10:19, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Enontekiö
As the municipality has many villages, and several churches, the church in the picture is just the church of Henna, and cannot be considered the "Enontekiö" church.
 * Do you mean Hetta church? It's called Enontekiö church in Finnish Wikipedia too. Widr (talk) 17:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Assistance to protect neutral POV on page
Hi Widr,

I have tried with great effort to maintain a balance of opinion in the Controversy section of the page on Mitsuo Fuchida, the lead pilot in the attack on Pearl Harbor. I admit I'm not that experienced on Wikipedia, but despite my best efforts, Binksternet continues to revert and edit to his own POV and bend the content of this historic figure, whom I know much about. I saw your name on Binksternet's (rejected) RFA as "Oppose" and thought, if nothing else, you might have some advice or perhaps help. I am requesting an article page ban here

Thanks for your consideration--TMartinBennett (talk) 23:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

edits
ya um hi u undid my edits about that dude getting a sex change.

It was true. Please undo your undo

Thx,

Ho Lee Fuk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.116.95 (talk) 22:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You need to add a reliable source for your edits. Widr (talk) 22:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Lenore Malen
Hi Widr, Thanks for your note. I deleted several paragraphs of the page for Lenore Malen as per her request. This page was created several years ago and, while it was made by one of Lenore's colleagues, is factually inaccurate in several respects. I am assisting to correct these inaccuracies as she is unfamiliar with the Wikipedia platform. I will repost the corrected information shortly. Catkron (talk) 18:15, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Catkron. Please explain your reasons in the edit summary when you are removing content. Unexplained removals might otherwise get identified as vandalism. Widr (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Eureka article
An eyewitness described the crude battlement known as the Eureka Stockade as "higglegy piggeldy", and I supplied a verifiable reference, would could have been checked on the world wide web. I wouldn't have thought that was made in bad fatih.

Peter Lalor said it was never meant to be much like a fortress, just an enclosure for drilling the men. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.180.166.115 (talk) 11:36, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No one is saying your edit was made in bad faith. But like another editor pointed out, "higgledy-piggledy" sounds a bit unecyclopedic and is not really necessary. I see that you opened a discussion on the talk page of the article, so let's see what others think. Widr (talk) 11:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

I dont see 'Edit' option
Hi Widr,

I dont see 'Edit' option on some pages. Is it requested by the government? or Wikipedia has a policy not to give the edit option for some pages?

e.g. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Gandhi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahul_Gandhi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priyanka_Vadra

these people are not even among important or important post holders but i can see 'edit' option on the page of first citizen of india http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranab_Mukherjee

regards, Shailendra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Upmanyu18 (talk • contribs) 17:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Shailendra. Those pages are semiprotected (see the lock symbol on the upper right corner). You can read more about protection here. Widr (talk) 17:21, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

You undid one of my changes...
Hi Widr,

I was browsing wikipedia articles and accidentally clicked on an 'edit' function. I was curious to know how that was possible considering I don't have a wikipedia account, so I made an edit and changed one word in the article I was viewing. It was to my understanding that an individual needs an account in order to make edits, so I went ahead and did it. Apparently, you don't actually need an account to do so, at least not anymore. Or perhaps it had been already like that for a long time, and I was just unaware.

Oh well. Cheers.

U — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.192.41.31 (talk) 19:42, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

regarding Till We Have Faces
hi Widr. you undid my changes in the Till We Have Faces article because you did not feel that they were constructive. out of curiosity, have you read the book? I was correcting factual inaccuracies in the plot summary. the article originally said that Orual was disfigured. this implies that she suffered some accident or birth defect. in fact, as the book articulates throughout, she was born ugly. ugliness and disfigurement are very different things, and her ugliness is an important element throughout the book as it deals with issues such as gender, the value of women based on aesthetics, and her relationship to her pristinely beautiful half-sister.

secondly, I changed "mask" to "veil." Orual takes up wearing a veil to shroud her face once she realizes what power this gave her. the lack of a face--the blankness of the veil--is distinctly different from wearing a mask, which cannot be blank. the only time Orual wears a mask is during an important battle, and the mask is given special consideration very separate from that of a veil. like the quality of ugliness, the veil is a very important element in Lewis' story, thoughtfully chosen, so I don't see how changing those two terms to something the author did not choose can be valuable. if anything, that seems destructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.109.8.127 (talk) 19:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. You obviously know what you are talking about, and my edit seems to have been a mistake, so I have reverted my edit. Thanks for the note. Widr (talk) 20:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank's — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.229.28.109 (talk) 21:31, 18 July 2013 (UTC)