User talk:WikiDan61/Archive20180410


 * Archive created 2018.04.10

Draft:AirySense Technology
Hi WikiDan61,

Thank you for your explanations. I'm a bit mixed with the requirements. If I write of the really new thing, where can I get the links to other sources? And, for example, there are links to Belorussian TV, CTV, telling about AirySense. Will it be enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexei ro (talk • contribs) 16:40, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You'll need to cite sources that provide significant coverage of this company. And this is not a "really new thing", as it has been around for 4 years or more. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks wiki dan 61 for supporting me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TGBCT1 (talk • contribs) 16:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks wiki dan 61 for supporting me.TGBCT1 (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Request on 17:17:33, 13 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Flippers4feet
Why is sufferlandria considered humor? If you check them out on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/TourofSufferlandria/ or their actual website - they are a real virtual country. It is talked about by thousands of people and having a Wikipedia entry would allow the masses, when they hare someone talking about it, to get detailed information about what it is.

Flippers4feet (talk) 17:17, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The fact that many people share a joke does not make it any less a joke. If you can cite some actual coverage of Sufferlandia in media independent of this group (i.e. has any newspaper or magazine written about it?), then you might have something. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:30, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Request on 21:56:56, 14 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Rpage2016
Hello! I am trying to get my article over Poems on Miscellaneous Subjects posted onto Wikipedia! I was wondering if you could help me edit the page before I submit it for review so it can get accepted!

Rpage2016 (talk) 21:56, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * As I noted when I declined the submission, the analytical portions of your article don't appear to be sourced to a reliable source. You can't write analytically about a piece of literature, and cite the literature itself as your source. Your analysis came from someplace beyond the literature itself, and without a valid source, it appears that the analysis came from you, which would violate Wikipedia's policy against publishing original research. If you can provide sources for your analytical conclusions about the work, there might be something to work with. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:19, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Your signature
Please be aware that your signature uses deprecated  tags, which are causing Obsolete HTML tags lint errors. Also, it contains a section that doesn't seem to do anything.

You are encouraged to change
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Respectfully, Anomalocaris (talk) 22:20, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I created that signature years ago. Didn't realize it was causing problems. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:26, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I left out the worst part; your signature was also causing Tidy bug affecting font tags wrapping links. All fixed now. —Anomalocaris (talk) 23:09, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

refering to Sogrape Vinhos Portugal Draft
The page Sogrape is of the Group company (Sogrape Original Legacy Wines) wich has several other companies (Bodgas LAN in spain, Finca Flichman in Argentina, Los Boldos in Chile, Framingham in New Zealand, Evaton in USA, etc.) and this page if for the Sogrape Vinhos Portugal wich is one of the companies that is hold by Sogrape Original Legacy wines — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuno Kincaid (talk • contribs) 19:27, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Understood. I don't think the draft you've written is sufficiently sourced from independent sources, but if you can find more sources, feel free to resubmit your article. I'll add the comment that you've made here so future reviewers are not similarly confused. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:47, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

31 hour blocks
I saw on ANI you were wondering why 31 hour blocks are the standard - well...quoting from my user page So I was wondering why the standard blocking time is 31 hours, and apparently it's because one random guy thought that was a good number—with an excellent rationale of "31 is a prime number, that has appeal TO ME over all the other 29<x<37 numbers"—in 2005. Guess it's really true that things are done in wikipedia because that's the way it has always been done. So yeah.. Galobtter (talkó tuó  mió) 13:12, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that primer! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:34, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Phenoxymethylpenicillin
Why did you revert my edit? Gak (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't. That was . You'll need to contact that user. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You removed a recent secondary source "" and replaced it with a primary source? Not sure why? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 16:05, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to answer. As this discussion has nothing to do with me, do you two mind taking it somewhere else? (Talk:Phenoxymethylpenicillin or User talk:Doc James would be my suggestions.) WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:08, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Message
You commented on my Wikipedia draft about Stormy Chamberlain. I had to create this page for a class project and including a picture was extra credit and that was the only picture that didn't get flagged for copyright violations. I deleted your comment but only because I do not want my page to get deleted before my teacher grades it. Sorry about that. Thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindseynrich96 (talk • contribs)
 * Your draft page won't be deleted merely because of my comments, and in general, it is considered very poor form to remove other users' comments. You may reply to the comments, and you may continue to improve the article. As for the extra credit, that's up to your teacher, but if you have access to photograph Dr Chamberlain, she might prefer a less silly picture. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 02:44, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hi WikiDan
I appreciate your concern. However, we are a team of students and professors at Babson College and believe that our page is accurate.

Could you please explain to us why you do not believe this page is qualified?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlieack (talk • contribs) 17:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure I explained the issues in my comment when I declined the submission. If there's something about my explanation that you didn't understand, could you please elaborate? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:28, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

You cannot rename a river, because it suits you
Mate - Afon Adda is the name, its not Called River Adda, although granted, that may be a name used colloquially by some english speakers. I've not incorrectly named it - ive merely corrected a previous error! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epa Cymraeg (talk • contribs) 13:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * As noted on your talk page by both me and the administrator who corrected your mistake, the English Language Wikipedia has guidelines indicating how articles should be titled (see WP:Article titles). Although the native Welsh name of the river may be Afon Adda, the common English name is River Adda, and that is the how the article should be titled for English readers. There is a Welsh language Wikipedia (https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki). You are free to title articles in your native Welsh language there, but here, we use English language titles. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:44, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Clearly you have no idea what youre talking about! The Name of the River is Afon Adda, but is colloqually referred by SOME but not all as 'River Adda'. Place names are the names, regardless of WIKIPEDIA's policy towards other languages. If the English language entry is erroneous, then, it needs to be corrected. THats what I did. Your edit is incorrect! Nothing more to add - so please put it right. This is a BILINGUAL country, where Welsh Names are oftern changed for reasons like your PETTY argument. If Wikipedia is to be trusted - things like this need to be corrected! Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epa Cymraeg (talk • contribs) 13:52, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * If you have an issue with the Wikipedia policy, you can take it up at Village pump (policy). However, until the policy changes, I stand by my edit. If you would like to open a discussion about the name of this particular river, you may do so at Talk:River Adda (Wales). If you can obtain consensus for this move, I'll support it, but until then, I won't change my action, and I recommend that you do not do so unilaterally either. That might get you blocked (as you have already been informed once by an administrator that your move was incorrect). WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:56, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

@WikiDan61, I only have an issue with your poorly assessed interpretation of the Wiki policy. Look at ANY map of this river, and youll see its NOT called River Adda - try this map as an example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.20276/-4.16376  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epa Cymraeg (talk • contribs) 14:14, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I choose not to discuss this matter to death with you. If you want to move the article, take up the issue at Talk:River Adda (Wales). Please do not bother me any more with this argument. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Dan61, Thank you for your feedback. Creating a Wikipedia is more difficult than I imagined. I have made changes to the reference section of my draft. I wanted to know if I was heading in the right direction -- as far as citing sources -- in order for my page to become an article. Can you advise?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks. --BKCarter (talk) 16:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)BKCarter--BKCarter (talk) 16:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

you
i did not relize that sorry my mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by Austin patrick (talk • contribs) 19:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Publishing an article
Hello,

My team and I are working on the page "Le rôle de l'horloge circadienne dans le développement de la maladie du diabète", in english, it would be "The role of the circadian clock in the development of the diabete's disease".

If I post it on French Wikipedia, and it get accepted, can I do the same page in English Wikipedia too?

Thank you very much!

Assia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chronobioassia (talk • contribs) 21:20, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course! Many articles on the English Wikipedia started out on foreign language Wikipedias. Translating from one to another is actually an ongoing process that is highly encouraged. You can either publish at fr.wiki first, and then translate the article to en.wiki (there are templates, such as Translated page, to give proper attribution to the authors of the French article during the translation process). And I would recommend the English title Role of circadian rhythms in the development of diabetes as a simpler, more direct translation of the French title. For reference, there is already some information at circadian rhythm related to this topic (see Circadian rhythm and Circadian rhythm). WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

User:Diak4 opening RfC based on objection to "left-wing partisanship" in Alternative for Germany
Hey there. I just wanted to see if you would be willing to take part in an RFC that User:Diak4 has opened an RfC on the lede for Alternative for Germany [here that goes as follows: "I am concerned of the partisan nature of this sentence and it disrupting the neutrality of the page since it is making an allegation that many supporters of this party are racists, neo-nazi's, etc. I am even more particularly concerned with the sources being so biased against this party as well as being partisan, left-wing sites. I understand that this is not against WP:RS however it brings the opinion of these sites and states them as facts on the Alternative for Germany page." This is based on a previous discussion here:. -- [[User:R9tgokunks|Wilner]] (Speak to me) 12:07, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Square gang
think its rude that you deleted a draft of mine that wasn't finished and wasn't gonna be published as I had much to add and then say its all negative there's a lot of negative stuff on this website e.g. Pablo Escobar a drug kingpin who was the reason for many deaths of people also how do u know that the people i mentioned are even alive you don't so instead of deleting pages you should have told me so i could have taken my work down and put it in my own file

also, there are many other pages on this website about gangs e.g. apex gang if you had asked I would have removed the names — Preceding unsigned comment added by AB866 (talk • contribs) 21:13, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You may not publish negative information about other people on Wikipedia without verification, even in the draft space. Your article was essentially an unsubstantiated claim of criminal activity against a group of people, and that is not allowed. For the record, I did not delete the article, I merely tagged it for deletion. It was deleted by an administrator, so at least one other user agreed with my rationale for having the page deleted. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:48, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Milan Kordestani
Hi WikiDan61,

Thank you for your prompt reply regarding the Milan Kordestani page. I'm curious to see what I can do to improve the page to get it approved. There is significant coverage from various media sources and so I'm unsure why the page has been deleted. I'd like to fix it rather than just cut it out. Pleaselet me know what I can do. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3024:1827:6E00:4143:D157:FB3C:6D77 (talk • contribs)
 * I don't know that there's much to do to improve the article. The discussion at Articles for deletion/Milan Kordestani occurred when sufficient coverage of his horsemanship career had already been provided, but that coverage was not deemed to render Kordestani sufficiently notable. As for his other accomplishments (CEO of Milan Farms and HuffPost writer), it's pretty clear that those are not accomplishments for which he will merit inclusion at Wikipedia. There has also been a significant problem of sock puppetry surrounding this subject, and editing as an unregistered IP editor is not helping your cause.
 * If an article about Kordestani is to exist at all, it will be based on his accomplishments as an equestrian, but it does not appear that those accomplishments have yet reached the level of meriting inclusion. Should he win any major tournaments/awards, that might be a thing. His showing at ASHA events does not appear to be sufficiently notable, as the notability of the American Saddlebred Horse Association has not yet been established, so the notability of its awards/competitions cannot be gauged. For an equestrian, I should think that a medal placement major international tournament or Olympics might be needed to assure notability.
 * These are all my opinions, of course, and others may have differing opinions. I won't object to you re-submitting the article; I'll step aside and let other editors evaluate the draft. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:58, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

New entry on wikipedia in wrong language.
Hi there WikiDan61. I tryied to add a new article in wikipedia but as you saw I made amistake regarding the language entry. I added the entry in Greece language in order to correct my mistake. So now i thing its ok. Can I also ask you a question because i saw some differences between en.wikipedia and el.wikipedia. In Greek draft editing i didnt manage to add on the top of the article the command. Do i have to enter a different command ? can you please revise the code in my Greek sumbition and tell me if i have to do something more thnak you in advace Denia
 * I'm sorry, I can't help you with the Greek Wikipedia, as I don't speak or read Greek, so I'm not familiar with the procedures there. I'm sure you can seek help among the Greek Wikipedia user community regarding your draft. Good luck! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 05:59, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

reverting a profile - so far today 9 times.
oh come on. Just exactly what is going on here?

I've tried very hard to comply with a profile, I have rewritten and adapted, to suit all. It has no personal details, or over emotive elements. I am not paid, receiving remuneration, or expect to. I am a cyclist, of longstanding time, with extensive knowledge and detail, of many riders, of which, Allan is one. The profile I am rewriting, was and remains a work in progress. The revert that you've acted upon several times, was written by me, several years ago, and is out of date, poorly written and certainly incomplete. The new profile i started several days ago, is a work in progress. I have tried to show what the next elements of the work are (by adding "text box to follow, with race results") under each section, or paragraph.

The only section or paragraph, I was going to leave "as is" is the section "1982 ACBB France" which mentions several other English cyclists, whom followed a similar path (mentioned often in other wiki profiles) and the book author - who wrote of them, and their collective exploits.

I am at a loss, to which element, is forcing the revert edits, or indeed what is the purpose. Please explain in detail, the reasoning.

PDM888 (talk) 17:43, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Your promotional edits were reverted. Then you created an article with a bunch of blank placeholders. That is in no way better than the article that existed. If you'd like to create a "work in progress", please do so in your own userspace. You may copy the current contents of the article to User:PDM888/Alan Peiper, edit the content there to your heart's content with no interference from others, and then copy your updated article back over the original when you are done. However, realize that your new article will again be subjected to scrutiny to see if it an improvement over the existing content. Please adhere to Wikipedia's policy about neutrality and verifiability: facts in the article should have citations to reliable sources. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:48, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Dan - nothing was a promoted edit. It's offensive and ridiculous, to suggest so, as it was, and simply is not, the case. It might be worth checking the spelling of "Allan Peiper" as it's the subject of many wikipedia errors, between language versions (on wiki) and elsewhere. PDM888 (talk) 18:20, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

edit warring?
Dan was it yourself, who's just posted "edit warring" on the talk page? If it was, I would say, I was not aware of this, but I also think the behaviour is incorrect.

The first person, who reverted my work, was ChrissyMad - I replied and edited the profile piece to suit. No reply.

Then, another brusque comment received by a copyright allegation of the image, of Allan Peiper - again, incorrect, and pointed out to the copyright accuser. It was also suggested, by the same person, that I should state whether i am receiving payment, expect to receive recompense, or am promoting a brand or Allan, himself. Nope to all of these allegations, stated or implied.

My thoughts on how wikipedia is conducted, is 50/50. I understand that errors occur, and whilst many are well versed, others less so. Tolerance, and aggressive conduct, is not why I try to add worthwhile content to wikipedia. I clearly, have an interest in adding and uploading cycling images (mine) to the website for free use. I've done that years before (user name back then PDM88 - I lost my password, and hadn't used wikipedia for several years) I'm not interested in a email, text/tennis war, it's not my interest, and I simply have tried to improve something, I know to be outdated and poorly drafted.

Looking at other sport profiles (both cyclists and other athletes) i considered the best way to do this. I have a cycling background, encompassing many countries, and more than 40 years, so yes, I have metaphorically, pedalled around the block.

I can see a lot of wikipedia errors, on races, and profiles, which are neither factually correct, nor validated. It has taken me some considerable time, to collate the race results for another rider, using own knowledge, and cross referencing with existing website data. Interestingly, many errors, are obviously copied from other data driven cycling websites, and simply taken as "gospel".

So, I leave this in your hands. If the old profile as its being reverted to remains, then I will let you lot sort it out. I'm done with the silliness and petty conduct of a few.

Kev PDM888 (talk) 17:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you've had a tough time editing at Wikipedia. It can be a somewhat daunting experience. I had hoped to point out the various policies that might help you get your footing in order to proceed successfully. I understand your interest in updating articles (they're not profiles per se, as this isn't a social media site; rather they are encyclopedia articles) about competition cyclists. And I understand your concern that the article about Allan Peiper is out of date. But when you update it with the text that you did (phrases such as "Driven by a fierce competitive spirit", "A young junior, he raced with determination, and cared little for reputations", and "Following his dreams, ...", these changes cannot be allowed to remain as they are gross violations of Wikipedia's neutrality doctrine. Also, when you remove existing material, only to replace it with "'TEMP >> select race results to add. box style addition add validation links to various websites", this is not helpful. I had suggested to you that you edit the article in your user space if you are not yet ready to update the article with complete information. I wish you would take that advice. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:09, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

14:41:48, 7 January 2018 review of submission by Wikinewby2017
I have made substantial changes to this entry, added many more sources (some in line with the already established German page) and structured the entry better in line with similar pages (for example Nat Keohane, Draft:Robert_Litterman). A prior page was deleted due to lack of notoriety. That has since clearly been established, with the publication of a prominent book.

13:20:11, 9 January 2018 review of submission by Dylankyle04
So you're saying it has to be published to be true? My great grandfather wrote that document, and just because the, place that hosts it is itself the organization, it doesn't count? I don't understand.
 * There is no implication that the source you used isn't true, only that it is published by the organization itself. In order to establish notability, we need evidence that people outside of and independent from the organization have written about it, to establish that the church is, indeed, significant and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

18:14:52, 9 January 2018 review of submission by UMBSSW741
Hello, could you please help us understand why this page was declined when I have encountered various other University/ University program pages on Wikipedia that have even less (or none at all) external references/ resources than we currently have. (See UNC School of Social Work, George Warren Brown School of Social Work, University of Texas at Austin School of Social Work, UNC School of Social Work, etc)

Other UMB Schools on campus have their own subpages ( law, medicine, etc.). We simply want the same format. Our competitors also have their own pages. Could you please help us understand why those others have been published with no notable/ reliable external citations/ references about the schools, but ours, which already contains some, is not being published?

Thank you! UMBSSW741 (talk) 18:14, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I declined the page based on a lack of reliable, third party sources. You have not provided any evidence that anyone independent of the school has written anything significant about the school. Based on the outcomes of related deletion discussions, it is the consensus of the Wikipedia community that departments within colleges or universities are not independently notable unless they have received significant coverage separate and apart from their housing college or university. The presents of other articles does not successfully argue for the presence of this article (see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). Your insistence that "we want the same format" because "our competitors have their own pages" indicates that you are trying to use Wikipedia to promote your school, which is forbidden. As to the "reliable external citations" of which you speak, I have addressed them in my comments at the draft page: citations to papers written by your faculty are not sufficient; what is needed are citations to articles written by independent sources about your school. (Also, please note that your username indicates you have a clear conflict of interest with regard to this topic. Please consider requesting an article at WP:RFA rather than trying to create the article yourself.) WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:59, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

22:55:21, 10 January 2018 review of submission by VincentBudd
Could you please provide extra detail on why this has been rejected. I do not personally 'know' Paul Mann though I have interviewed him. I have written entries for other dictionaries (including Oxford Bibliographical Dictionary) and find it hard to know why this has been rejected when it could barely have been read in the time!
 * I thought my declining comment was fairly clear. Let me try to expand:
 * Neutrality: Your article is written in a tone that tends to praise and promote Mann, rather than to simply narrate his biography. Writing at Wikipedia is much different than writing for other publications, and can seem dry and colorless to some who are more used to reading magazine profiles. I suggest you read some other featured biographies to see what I mean.
 * Formatting: Wikipedia uses very specific syntax to format articles. Rather than creating headings explicitly, as
 * we create them using special Wiki syntax, as
 * This will generate the table of contents automatically, so you don't need to create one manually.
 * (There are also issues with the list formats in the article, but let's concentrate on one thing at a time!)
 * Citations should be included inline, using tags directly following the fact in the article that the citation verifies. This allows other editors to check the citations to see if the text of the article accurately reflects the information presented in the sources. For more information about this, see Help:Citing sources.
 * I hope I've clarified my comments sufficiently. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 00:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Citations should be included inline, using tags directly following the fact in the article that the citation verifies. This allows other editors to check the citations to see if the text of the article accurately reflects the information presented in the sources. For more information about this, see Help:Citing sources.
 * I hope I've clarified my comments sufficiently. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 00:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Anusha Rai
Hi,

I had my article declined on 15 Jan by you, I made significant changes as suggested by you and resubmitted for review. Could you please review it and do the needfull. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Anusha_Rai

Thanks and kind regards... Kirapz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranpz (talk • contribs) 09:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It may be some time before I can assess the value of the sources you've added as I'll need to run them through a translator (I don't read Kannada) and for the most part I can't access the articles from my work computer (my company blocks most entertainment related sites). I'll see what I can do, but I can't promise anything soon. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:50, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi,

Did you get any chance to a have look at the article?

Thanks and kind regards... Kirapz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranpz (talk • contribs) 05:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Not yet. Maybe today. Maybe tomorrow. But as the article is presently submitted under AFC, another editor might get to it before I do. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:57, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

HI,

Did you get any chance to review my article. Its been waiting for review from long time. I request you to kindly review it and do the needful.

Thanks and kind regards... Kiranpz

Baltimore Choral Arts
The information I posted is copy that I wrote for our website and program books, as I am a staff member of Baltimore Choral Arts. Please let me know what actions you require to prove that I am currently with Baltimore Choral Arts.

Thank you,

Karena Ingram Baltimorechoralarts (talk) 16:45, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

In regards to your username message, I just had another individual tell me to write in my username that I am a member of Baltimore Choral Arts, so who am I to believe in this situation? I am new to editing wikipedia, and I just want to update our organizations wikipedia page since the information is outdated and insufficient.

Karena Ingram Baltimorechoralarts (talk) 16:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You may well have written the copy, but that does not mean that you own the copyright to the text. That belongs to the organization. There is a process for the organization to donate the copyrighted material to Wikipedia, thus allowing its publication here, but I would not recommend doing so. Copy you write for your website and program notes is promotional, as is appropriate for your own website. But promotional material has no place at Wikipedia (see WP:SPAM), so the copy you write for your own website is not appropriate for inclusion here. You are free to rewrite your copy to meet Wikipedia's neutrality standards, but also keep in mind that the material must be verifiable by citations to reliable independent sources. (I.e. you can't cite your own website as a source for your organization's history or the biographies of its directors.)
 * PS: I did not send you the username message, but I would have had it not already been taken care of by another user. The point of the matter is that you may not use a username that indicates that multiple members of the Baltimore Choral Arts organization edit under that name. You may use username that indicates that you are an individual member of the organization. So, while "Baltimorechoralarts" is an invalid username, "BCA Member" or "BCA Media Director" or "BCA Jane" are valid usernames.
 * Finally, please note: if the BCA is paying you to write their Wikipedia article for them, you must disclose this fact. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:56, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Boots Jaffee
why is it that information about me on other information sites (GOOGLE) have information about me and my family yet Wikipedia continues to say I have no verifiable sources, I have even tried to add my name as well as my sisters to our mother's bio ( ODETTA )as we are her only children and when I try to add our names to the part the refers to persons attending her memorial I am denied....WHY
 * Your draft article has been rejected because it does not make a credible claim to notability. Your career as the pyrotechnics artist for the Grateful Dead, while surely important to you, does not appear to have garnered the attention of any serious journalists. And your draft does not cite any sources. I note that you have added the line:
 * Google articles "Boots Jaffee" Wikipedia article "Grateful Garcia Gathering" Movie creidts /Grateful Dead Movie/ fireworks/pyrotechnics
 * but this is not really a citation. It is up to you, as the draft writer, to do the homework to find the reliable sources that will verify your content. You might consider reading Referencing for Beginners for more information on how to find and add sources.
 * I will note that Wikipedia strongly discourages writing about yourself. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a social media site. It is not really a place to write about yourself, but rather for others who have learned about you and consider you to be a notable person to then write an article about you.
 * As for your edits to the article about your mother, those have been reverted because the point of the sentence at hand is to note the notable attendees at her memorial. You and your sister were certainly (and expectedly) in attendance, but were not among the notable attendees.

-- WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC) i guess that your editors are too young or not rock ear savvy to remember me...and as far as Notables at the memorial."'Emory Joseph" is not as notable as I am in the industry and was at the memorial as a guest of my sister and no other reason....remove him or put me in ....if in fact you ONLY WANT NOTABLE PERSONS
 * I will admit that I'm not a huge fan of the Grateful Dead, and don't know much about their cult or culture. But I do know how to do a Google search, and a search for "Boots Jaffee" does not turn up any significant coverage. A LinkedIn page, a Google+ site, an article you wrote in remembrance of your mother, but nothing significant written about you by someone else. That is the bar for inclusion at Wikipedia. As for Emory Joseph: the New York Times obituary (here) found him significant enough to include in the list of people who sang at here memorial, so that's sufficient to allow that fact to remain. Notably, your attendance at the memorial was not mentioned. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:50, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

13:53:50, 24 January 2018 review of submission by 31.208.82.38
Hello! I'm trying to make this wiki page work and the sources i've added include Swedish State radio and also several well know magazines and radio channels. Will that be enough? 31.208.82.38 (talk) 13:53, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Probably. I can't evaluate the sources at this time, but I'll try to get to it if no one else does before me. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:40, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Tucold Article
i dont understand what im doing wrong please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisaowens (talk • contribs)
 * I've fixed the formatting of your draft. You've deleted the AFC template, so technically the draft is not pending review at this time. I declined the previous draft because it didn't cite any sources to verify that Tucold is a notable musician. I'm not sure that the sources you've linked to help the case; I don't know whether they'd be considered reliable sources or not, and I can't evaluate them at this time. If you resubmit the draft for review, someone will get to it eventually. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:26, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Deleted page Valmont Group
Hi WikiDan61, I don't understand why you deleted again the page Valmont Group.

This is a real society, known all over the world.

The text is not too much publicity, this is only a description of the society.

Thank you

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosor06 (talk • contribs) 10:06, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't delete it, but I did nominate it for deletion, primarily because I thought it was entirely too promotional (and also, it did not make a sufficient claim that the company is notable). Clearly, the administrator who did delete the page agreed with my assessment. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:16, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

02:20:27, 3 February 2018 review of submission by Wikinewby2017
Thank you for your feedback. I believe I've gotten the hang of it now -- and also did 2 other new pages, including for Bob Litterman (also awaiting review), and I edited a couple others. Wikinewby2017 (talk) 02:20, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I have added what might be the best external profile of Wagner's work, published by Yale Climate Connections in 2016. It cites both one of the books and the Harvard directorship. I also deleted the direct reference to Wagner's EDF staff profile. I hope this passes muster now. Thank you! Wikinewby2017 (talk) 17:04, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Works for me! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Max Miecchi
Why should the references I used be wrong? I don't get it. IMDb is the BIBLE of cinema, and a very affordable source... — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvaMariaRamirez (talk • contribs)
 * I thought the comment I left when I declined your AFC submission was quite clear. At Wikipedia, IMDb is not considered a reliable source because its content is largely generated by its users, with little or no editorial oversight. (For further guidance, refer to Citing IMDb.) I have seen many cases of IMDb entries that were wrong, or just outright hoaxes. I have tried to contact IMDb to have such entries removed, but they appear reluctant to take such measures. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:51, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * PS: I note that the page about Max Miecchi has been deleted seven times from the Italian Wikipedia. It's no more likely to be acceptable at the English Wikipedia. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:55, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

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23:42:06, 7 February 2018 review of submission by Kiddiecraft
How can I add recourses for my Draft so that it can be published.

Kiddiecraft (talk) 23:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

11:39:13, 13 February 2018 review of submission by Youngblanket
Hello. I have updated the page with a number of independent sources so was hoping that the page could be re-reviewed? Youngblanket (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Nice job! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:01, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Thomas Siffling
Hello,

and thank you for your feedback. In fact, I was just trying to create the English equivalent of my already existing article on German wikipedia "Thomas Siffling". Maybe this is not the best way to do it, but after reading through the help topics on this subject, it seemed the easiest/most understandable. However, any help in getting the English version published would be much appreciated!

Thanks Thomas Siffling (talk) 13:27, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Rather than creating your own article here, I would suggest you work through the Requested Articles process. You could post a request that an independent editor review your German Wikipedia biography and see if it is suitable for inclusion here at en.wiki. (Remember, each language's Wikipedia is run by a different group of volunteers, and different guidelines evolve as to what is considered acceptable content. What might be acceptable at de.wiki might not be acceptable at en.wiki.) WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

warnings
Hi Dan, I was notified, but i did not see it and i was not aware why somebody deleted my input all the time. That is why i put it there more times. I did not know, there is such a strict rule when I update an information which is correct and I provided external sources to prove it. It seems to me a strange approach, but ok, i accept it. there is nothing else i can do about it. All the best, Linda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindapetrikova (talk • contribs) 21:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Linda, your own company's website does not constitute a valid source of what is true about your product. And most of what you added was blatantly promotional. At this point, best to leave the article for others to edit. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Dan Ownby
Thanks for the feedback on the updated page for Dan Ownby. This is my first experience editing a page and I welcome your input to help ensure that I am providing adequate source information.

I added 2 links to the External Links section that I hope will help. The first is a link to the most recent annual report for the Boy Scouts of America. There is a listing at the end of this document showing Mr. Ownby as BSA's International Commissioner as well as a Board Member.

The second external link that I added was to include a recent tariff filing for the West Shore Pipe Line Company which lists Mr. Ownby as the President of that company.

Please let me know if there is additional information that I can provide to help ensure adequate source information.

Thank you!--Doncullum1 (talk) 18:35, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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Draft:Window Shopping (Browsing)
Hi ,

Thank you for your input on my draft. You gave me willpower, as i was scared that all of my effort was going to be wasted. I will make necessary adjustments and submit for review again. Hopefully i don't encounter another declined as this is a project from school and it is my first time creating an article on Wikipedia. I really appreciate your "clean up" on the draft.

Best regards ThorpeCleopatra (talk) 16:23, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, and good luck. If you and your professor have not already done so, you might want to check out Wikipedia's guidelines for school and university projects. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:32, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

removing Atlasail
good day,

How can I make sure the page doesn't get removed? Different words, less promotional?

makes sense

my thought is that if apple inc. can have a page, So can Atlasail

cheers, Pieter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boatsboatsboats (talk • contribs) 16:48, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it's apparently too late (Draft:ATLASAIL has already been deleted). You can try rewriting a new, less promotional draft, but your thoughts re: Apple Inc. are incorrect. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of everything that is, and comparing yourself to Apple Inc. (the largest corporation in the world, based on market capitalization) might be just a bit of a stretch. Please read WP:CORP to see if ATLASAIL really merits inclusion. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Added References and secondary sources to my Page "Andre Martin"
Hey WikiDan61 ,

Added References and secondary sources to my Page "Andre Martin".

Thanks for reviewing. Best regards,

Andre Martin CEO AM Andre Martin GmbH — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andre.martin13 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

15:15:33, 3 March 2018 review of submission by MACCAWALES86
Changes requested have now been made, please review.

Regards,

Dan MACCAWALES86 (talk) 15:15, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

MACCAWALES86 (talk) 15:15, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't really get why my article is going to be deleted.
Hi WikiDan61, it's nice of you to leave a message saying that you are willing to talk.

As for my first article, I don't really get why it is nominated for deletion, which will probably be the case. There is another article on a similar website. I'm referring to Wenxuecity. Although Backchina is less popular, it surely does influence a lot of people in a similar way to Backchina. I realized that my article draft may have seemed too much like an advertisement. I apologize. I am quite new to writing on Wikipedia, despite having consulted it for so long! Let me know your thoughts.

Best, ApartProgrammer ApartProgrammer (talk) 04:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I did not nominate your draft for deletion; that was . All I did was decline your draft with suggestions for improvement. I did not feel that your draft made a sufficient assertion that BackChina is a notable web site. But apparently SN54129 felt that your draft went too far in the direction of advertising. I suggest you contact that user for further discussion of the matter. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping, WikiDan61. In these circumstances,, your best course of action is to contact the deleting administrator (User:) as they still have access to the deleted material. If they consider that the draft is rectifiable, they may email you the contents for further work off-wiki—I suggest that this is what you request. Take care,  ...SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 12:58, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Max Wallis
Hey WikiDan61, the prize isn't for independently published fiction at all. (123koalamaker (talk) 20:17, 7 March 2018 (UTC))
 * My apologies. I misunderstood the reference that you cited, which mentioned that four independent publishers were listed in the 2012 Polari Prize short list. Upon further searching, I find that the Polari Prize is given for first books that explore LGBT themes. That doesn't really change the point of the comment that I made at Draft:Max Wallis: that the prize is relatively obscure, and the source you provided does not even verify that Wallis was shortlisted. You'll need better claims of notability, and better sources to verify them, to get this article published. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Anusha Rai
Hello Sir i have updated the article of Deccan chronicle reference request you to re review & approve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saveydude (talk • contribs) 12:31, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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14:56:33, 12 March 2018 review of submission by MACCAWALES86
please review, Jennifer and team mate are now racing and have already won a Paralympic medal!

MACCAWALES86 (talk) 14:56, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

MACCAWALES86 (talk) 14:56, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Anusha Rai
Dear WikiDan61

I have submitted the below draft for review and it was declined by you with for insufficient refrence. Now i have added the references properly. Could you please review it and do the needful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Anusha_Rai

Many thanks Kiranpz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranpz (talk • contribs) 05:57, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Silence & Air
Hi Dan,

Article now edited to include references on the various subjects.

Let me know if there's anything else needed!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbormittah (talk • contribs) 14:47, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry. The single source that you've added (other than links to places where people can actually buy your music) appears to be an interview that you gave in order to sell your music. You are free to promote yourselves, but not at Wikipedia. We'll need stronger sourcing before this article can be accepted for publication. Please also note that users are strongly discouraged from writing about their own bands, projects, companies, etc.

Draft:Arthur Margoschis
Hi Dan

I have made some modifications to the draft article and cited references as you advised. Can you see my article again Draft:Arthur Margoschis and advise me if any further modifications to be made. by Johnson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnson.devaraj (talk • contribs)
 * The text is better, but still not quite there yet. Text such as "A landmark church called St. John's church was developed in Nazareth, Tamil Nadu due to his untiring effort." is vague and not quite neutral. What specifically did Margoschis do to effect the construction of the church? Did he raise funds? Did he petition the higher church authorities? And the word "untiring" is rather subjective, and should be avoided.
 * The article still relies almost entirely on primary sources which are not generally considered reliable, especially histories of the Anglican missions written by the Anglican church itself in the early 1900s.
 * I encourage you to continue working on the draft; I believe there is the seed of an acceptable article there -- just not yet. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:51, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dan

I understand what you are trying to convey. I would like correct mistakes one at a time. Also, I have added a few sentences and some new references from old archives and websites. Can you review my article Draft:Arthur Margoschis one more time and advise me on further modifications. by Johnson.Johnson.devaraj (talk) 10:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Globe Rowing Club page
Hi there,

Is there any way for me to find out why this page was deleted?

Thanks Rachel Rescoffield (talk) 20:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. The message on your user talk page should be quite clear. Your article was deleted because it made no credible assertion that the Globe Rowing Club is a notable organization. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:31, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Reply
On the contrary the last place In need to create a resume is Wiki.

been a newbie at this process, I'll work out the personal outline

cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mobeetel (talk • contribs) 17:41, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Neuroscience Journal deletion
Hi Dan,

I do not understand why the information I wrote is deleted, it is just objective and neutral information about the Neuroscience Journal, which is absolutely outdated. Could you please help me? I am new in this and I am already fed up with so many picky things...

Thank you in advance,

Laura — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laura Navío at Neuroscience Journal (talk • contribs) 09:54, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * See WP:JWG in particular. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Reverted
I've reverted you here. You are in a minority wanting to even keep the draft. The MfD is likely to end delete. Moving it to mainspace while the discussion is ongoing is not appropriate. If it closes as keep, feel free to do it then. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:40, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Just took the advice of . WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:45, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I nearly edit-conflicted while reverting you.Anyways, I don't think that DGG advised anyone to main-space the draft in the middle of an active MFD but he could have definitely worded it better.Anyways, please don't cross-space drafts under active deletion discussions, in future. ~ Winged Blades Godric 13:48, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I read it as him saying if it survived to promote it, but if he wasn't, this will be one of the few times I disagree with him. Accepting a draft four established editors want to delete at MfD to invalidate the MfD and force an AfD is gaming the system (and I know it wasn't your intent, or what David was suggesting, but that is what it accomplishes.) TonyBallioni (talk) 13:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I was indeed  saying   that the place to discuss notability  is AfD. I would never interfere with any good-fait attempt by an established editor to test an article at AfD. I'm trying not to complicate process, but to centralize decision making.   DGG ( talk ) 17:00, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Copyediting
I noticed you left us at the guild, but I hope you come back if you change your mind. Kind regards, Thinker78 (talk) 04:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I did so little copy editing work that being a member of the guild seemed like a lie. I'll correct grammar errors where I find them, but I find that many of the articles on the guild's watch list are tagged for very arcane issues that I'm not qualified to fix. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:47, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm SamHolt6. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Netcall, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

SamHolt6 (talk) 14:04, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi!
I got your message.

As per your instructions, I have kept around nine references this time around. I believe the references talk about my work independently.

Hope it helps.

Thanking you in anticipation. Regards, Naveed Qazi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Authornaveedqazi (talk • contribs) 16:33, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * As of this version, your draft has nine explicit references:
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * This is an article about your book release, written by the website you write for; so, not independent.
 * This is your own website.
 * This is an article you wrote.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * So, of the nine citations, none are actually independent. I believe you have some work to do. You should really review Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources and primary sources. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:48, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed. KJP1 (talk) 20:16, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * This is an article you wrote.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * So, of the nine citations, none are actually independent. I believe you have some work to do. You should really review Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources and primary sources. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:48, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed. KJP1 (talk) 20:16, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * This is an ad for your book.
 * So, of the nine citations, none are actually independent. I believe you have some work to do. You should really review Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources and primary sources. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:48, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed. KJP1 (talk) 20:16, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

ICMPD edits
Dear WikiDan61, the edits that I have done are for an organisation that is working for a very good cause and people should know more about it. All the information had a reference link and is not promoting the organisation but simply gives a basic information. I would really appreciate if you could put back the changes, or explain what was the mistake or how is it different from changes made on other pages of international organisations that have a lot of basic information. Thank you very much! Lulu504 (talk) 08:03, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sure the organization does excellent work, and interested readers can click on the link to the organization's website to learn all about it, but the information you added to the Wikipedia article was non-encyclopedic and promotional. Also, given that your only edits are to that particular article, following a series of edits from an unregistered IP that links to the organization, I am working on the presumption that you work for the organization, and should declare your conflict of interest prior to any further editing on the article. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:16, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

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Draft:Anis Uzzaman
Draft:Anis Uzzaman is a copyright violation and is up for speedy deletion, a draft you reviewed. I just wanted to remind you to please check the draft is not a copyright violation before reviewing. If it is a copyright violation, please tag it up for G12 copyvio. This is just a general reminder when reviewing drafts in the future. Pkbwcgs (talk) 07:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I tagged it for speedy deletion as spam. I was pretty sure that would get it deleted without needing to check whether it was also a copyright violation. Had I decided to simply decline the submission, I probably would have checked for copyright violations first. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh. I din't see a speedy deletion template when I checked the draft. Pkbwcgs (talk) 12:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I could be wrong. I thought I tagged it for spam. I'll be careful of copyrights in further reviews. (I'm usually pretty careful about that kind of thing!) WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:15, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Deletion
Hello Dan, As far as I understood you were the one to delete my new page on demi-denims. Could you let me know why was that done so I can fix it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreyukjm (talk • contribs) 13:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Technically, I didn't delete it; I just converted it to a redirect, restoring the edit of an earlier editor. The problem is that this topic simply isn't notable enough for a standalone article yet. A garment, manufactured by a single designer, and creating something of a mini-trend for one fashion season, is not the kind of thing that needs to be covered with its own encyclopedia article. Read up on the guidelines at WP:N and WP:GNG. If you can show sufficient significant coverage for this topic, maybe it can be reconsidered. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:02, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I think you might have misunderstood the article. It's not about the garment, but about the cut. It has been produced for many seasons now, by a designer as well as a big high street fashion retailer. I will back it up better
 * It was introduced 3 years ago. I don't know that I'd call that "many seasons", and it is still the creation of a single designer (whether or not she has found a retailer to carry the product). I didn't nominate the page for deletion, so you are free to restore the version you created. I'm not the final arbiter of Wikipedia. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:00, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Request on 20:05:42, 3 April 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Nina07011960
Please keep in mind that most African-American classical musicians active in the 1940s and 50s were discriminated against, ignored by most white newspapers, and are hard to find. Few of the African-American newspapers of the day have uploaded their archives on the web. We are trying to correct this by submitting this article. Believe me, I have not included many tales of racism which kept Anne Gamble from the stage, tales which came from her own mouth. Nina07011960 (talk)

Nina07011960 (talk) 20:05, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You can reference newpapers that are not archived online, as long as they are archived somewhere that is accessible to the general public (a major public library, for example). But without evidence of significant coverage in independent media, the article does not meet Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion. Creating a Wikipedia article is not the solution to a notability problem; the person must be notable before the article can be created. And as significant a role as Mrs. Kennedy may have played in the history of Fisk University, we would need evidence that she played a significant role beyond that institution. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:10, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

RedneckRomney Article Denied (Board of Commissioners of Bryan County v. Brown)
Hello,

If I am reading the denial email correctly, my article was not approved because it cites to the actual court "record" itself? Now, if this is the case, I find this rejection to be entirely inappropriate and completely at odds with the rules of legal scholarship.

First and foremost, the characterization that I am citing to a court "record" is incorrect. My citations were to the "OPINION" issued by none other than the Supreme Court of the United States. As such, this is the most powerful and most preferred type of citation in legal scholarship. Simply put, there is not a single source that trumps the words of the Supreme Court.

Additionally, I see no difference between a citation to a Supreme Court opinion and a citation to a federal statute. Much of the cases on Wikipedia link to a statute that the case arises under. How is the Court's interpretation of this statute not given the same weight as the text of the statute itself? In every sense, both of these are law, they merely come from different sources (one from the Supreme Court and the other from Congress).

Finally, in citing the OPINION, I made sure to provide specific page numbers for which my content could be found. This was not a generic citation that simply directed the reader to the case itself. On the contrary, my citations were to precise pages so that any questioning of the content would be swiftly put to rest.

I fully understand that Wikipedia has a strict policy regarding "reliable sources" and that my grievances are likely to fall on deaf ears. However, if Wikipedia truly wants to ensure its articles (especially those concerning court cases) are promulgated from the best primary sources, I believe it should rethink its policy. At the very least, Wikipedia should allow for court cases to include citations from the opinion itself; for it is the opinion that is actually the "primary source."

Thank you for your consideration of both my article and my thoughts in this message. If, as I expect to happen, the article will not be published until I add other sources, I will go back and make those changes accordingly. Have a great evening. RedneckRomney (talk) 03:03, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, if you were writing for a law journal, citing the legal opinions directly would be appropriate. But Wikipedia is not a law journal, and it relies not on primary sources (court opinions) but rather on secondary analyses of those opinions (see WP:RSLAW and WP:PS). Otherwise, we are left to your interpretation of the opinions, which would constitute original research. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Gerald Murray (Talent manager) for deletion
Hello WikiDan61,

Your point of view of Murray and keeping with Wikipedia content compliance and source references is completely understood and respected.

Murray is among the many behind the scenes individuals and/or missing pieces of American music industry history, who have contributed to the successes of recording artists, and have forged a solid path in their own right and careers. Yet, have unfortunately received little to no print publicity or notoriety compared to those whom they helped to place in forefront of media and press. This includes talent managers, A&R personnel, music producers, executive producers, and record company promotion personnel. Not to get off track, but merely as an example, over my personal career thus far, I too have been a contributor to the successes of a plethora of recording artists including Ray Charles, Mary J Blige, Will Smith, The Rolling Stones, and to record label personnel, but one would be very hard pressed to find verifiable print or web references to that fact other than my personal biography/resume, from the mouths of the artists themselves, and those who know this to be true.

The reference sources presented and used with regard to Murray, are to the extent of what I can find to date. Many hours has been spent searching newspaper archives, and am still researching. Essentially, I'm in a loop with other music industry people who share the same interests in the lessor know individuals in music, who have in fact made an impact in one way or another, to and for the music industry. Murray's background and story came up via conversations. Being a person who has worked professionally in the music industry for over fifty years, and one who seeks out those termed as, the unsung heroes in the music industry, Murray peaked my interest. Especially since he is another piece of the unwritten historic music scene in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. His story goes deeper than what is proposed in the article with associations to Waylon Jennings, CBS Records, hit songwriters Max T. Barnes, James LeBlanc, and others. Some of those people contained in the first draft of Murray's article of which were removed, appeared to be reading as an advertisement of, or for Murray, by the way I was presenting them in the article, of which I have no intention, benefit, nor need to do.

I am open to any and all suggestions that might help in reframing the article, and obtaining acceptable reference sources to possibly defer its deletion.

Expressing sincere thanks for your time and energy thus far. It is obvious you are a very busy person and definitely on top of your game.

User:mediaman770 (User talk:mediaman770) 17:01, 04 April 2018 (UTC)
 * While it may be unfortunate that many people toil in the music industry unnoticed, it is certainly not the place of Wikipedia to right that wrong. We can only go by the guidelines as they exist, which, in the current case, would be WP:BIO and WP:GNG. Boiled down to a sentence, the guidelines state that a person must have been the topic of multiple instances of significant, independent coverage. So, if someone chose to write an entire article about Murray and his career in a magazine that was not his own hometown paper, that would be significant. Unfortunately, Murray appears to be notable solely for having been (and then quit as) George Jones' manager. There might be room in the Jones article for a brief sentence about him, but nothing more. Managing notable talent is not, in itself, notable. Again, if anyone has written about Murray's career (if he was an outstanding manager whose managerial skills actually changed the course of his clients' careers, someone has probably written about that other than Murray himself), let us know -- that might change the course of the deletion discussion. But, as you have said, Murray is one of the "unsung heroes" -- and if no one has "sung" his praises yet, we don't have the necessary sources to do so here. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:14, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I shall continue the research to see if I can find more detailed information. Your time in reply and advice is "truly appreciated." Have a great day. User:mediaman770 (User talk:mediaman770) 17:35, 04 April 2018 (UTC)

Anne Gamble Kennedy Article
WikiDan61: This is especially for you! https://www.facebook.com/ScandalABC/videos/2040449452651493/UzpfSTEzOTgxMzU0NjQ6MTAyMTY0Mzg1MzQzMDE0MTQ/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiDan61: Part of the problem with finding records on Anne Gamble Kennedy is that some newspapers mis-spelled her name. Sometimes they left the "e" off of her first name. I have added more references. This was an African-American woman who was concertizing in the segregated South in the 1940s and 50s. Often her work was not mentioned in white publications. Please keep this in mind while considering her "notability." Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It is unfortunate that her talents were not recognized by the press of her time, but Wikipedia can't right that wrong. If there are no sources, there are no sources. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:17, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I have added more sources - one from the LA Times and a few from newspapers.com. If you are an American, you MUST understand the injustices suffered by African-Americans in the 20th century, and do all that you can to correct those wrongs. It is up to us to make sure that our history isn't lost by "revisionist historians." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I do understand the injustices, but again, Wikipedia in 2018 cannot undo those unjustices. The sources you've added (in particular, the LA Times article, but the others as well so far as I'm able to read them on the newspapers.com site) barely mention Mrs. Kennedy. The LA Times article, in particular, states, "[Matthew Kennedy's] wife, Ann Gamble Kennedy, is the group's pianist." That's it. One sentence barely mentioning her. I feel bad for you that you can't find more sources, and for Mrs. Kennedy that her career may have been underappreciated. But that doesn't change Wikipedia policy. I recommend that you seek help from appropriate WikiProjects. WikiProject Musicians or WikiProject Women in Red might be able to help. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

There's also a new recording listed with reference: Eye of the Storm... What about the references that only come up online under newspapers.com?Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:08, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Newspaper.com references are fine; I just don't have a subscription so I'm not sure I'm seeing all of the text, but from what I can tell, they do not comprise significant coverage (more "Ann Gamble Kennedy is the group's accompanist" type of coverage). Also, please post new messages at the bottom of the page, so that the dialogue reads in proper chronological order. Thanks! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:18, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiDan61: This is especially for you! https://www.facebook.com/ScandalABC/videos/2040449452651493/UzpfSTEzOTgxMzU0NjQ6MTAyMTY0Mzg1MzQzMDE0MTQ/[1] (Oops!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I have shared my difficulties with the Fisk University National Alumni Association, and they are waiting to see this article on Wikipedia. Her hundreds of piano students are also waiting. Fisk University is an HBCU, so you may not have seen the kind of coverage of it that you are used to for other (white) colleges and universities, but Fisk has a rich, international history. Wikipedia is doing itself a disservice by not including this article. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:04, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Once again, I will state that I fully understand the problem that Black artists in this country (especially in the mid-1900s) were under-represented and under-reported. That is a tragedy. But it is not a tragedy Wikipedia can fix. I also note that you may have a conflict of interest related to this subject (noting that your contributions to Wikipedia thus far have concentrated largely on biographies of Matthew Washington Kennedy, Nina Gamble Kennedy, and now this draft -- all three members of the same family). Your loyalty is laudible, but I can't change Wikipedia policy. That being said, the entire discussion about your draft has been between you and me. You are free to simply publish your draft on your own (be bold). I will likely nominate it for deletion at that point, but then the discussion will get a much wider audience, and other voices than mine will get to weigh in on whether or not this subject merits inclusion at Wikipedia. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:20, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Well, these articles are long overdue. One of her former students has said, "The people at Wikipedia should be ashamed of themselves for not publishing this article." By invalidating her, you invalidate her students. Nina07011960 (talk)
 * I think we're done here. You want the article because you think the world needs it; I don't think the article merits inclusion because there are insufficient sources. You and I are not going to agree on this, so we'll have to agree to disagree. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Yannick Kizito
Hi WikiDan61, what is it that is missing in my article? Please make me understand, I have cited several references but still is rejected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnkizito (talk • contribs) 21:50, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * What's missing is evidence of notability. Kizito seems to have garnered attention for being the youngest FIBA-licensed agent in Belgium. That's a pretty niche-level claim to notability. I'd like to see Kizito covered for more general accomplishments rather than just youth. That's just one man's opinion though. Others may differ. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)