User talk:WikiDan61/Archive20200723

Archive created 2020.07.23

Reviewing the updated "Nano (cryptocurrency)" submission?
Hello Dan!

Would you happen to have any time to review the updated "Nano (cryptocurrency)" submission? You reviewed it earlier this year and found that there wasn't evidence of significant independent coverage at the time, so we've been collecting better sources since then. We just resubmitted the article with a lot more quality citations (both academic and independent coverage), so hopefully we've addressed your concerns! Please let us know if we're missing anything else.

Thanks!

Qwahzi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwahzi (talk • contribs) 16:40, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

VisitScotland page update
Hi there, I have been trying to update the VisitScotland page for a while now but you have reverted the changes. Could I please request that someone makes the edit and modifies it to suit Wikipedia? I am new to editing on here but the information currently on the page is inaccurate and not comprehensive.

You mention that the copy is too long - can you suggest a max word count for each section in that case? I also don't understand why this information cannot be sourced to the VisitScotland website as the information here is accurate and all covered?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna at VisitScotlandCorp (talk • contribs) 10:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Your edits were problematic for several reasons. The excessive length was just the one I mentioned. The edits were also sourced solely to the organization's own website, which Wikipedia does not consider a reliable source as it is not written independently. Also, because the text was based largely on the single self-published source, the neutrality of the information is questionable. The length issue itself has to do with balance. As an encyclopedia entry, the text should briefly cover the history of the organization (date of its founding, dates of major achievements, etc.) and then more extensively cover the actual activities of the organization and its impact on the Scottish Tourism Industry. As you have stated here that you are associated with VisitScotland's Communications Department, you must disclose the paid nature of your edits. That said, because of your conflict of interest, I would recommend that if there are changes you would like to see on the page, you discuss the matter at Talk:VisitScotland, with specific suggestions as to what you would like to see changed, preferably with citations to specific reliable sources to verify the new information you would like to include. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:55, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hoping for a second review after editing
Hi, you reviewed my article on John Lapinski of University of Pennsylvania earlier and suggested additional sources for the information. I added several to the article and am hoping you can look at it again to let me know if it now meets the criteria for publication? If not, can you point to places you believe it still needs support (for example, I don't think his book titles need reference but if they do I'd have to use an Amazon or other sales link)? I appreciate it!MedialadyCLA (talk) 19:12, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

John Lyttle III
I apologize for writing here. Not sure how to notify you or where to put the link you had requested to notify you. Can you please relook at the SC Democrat. If you go to the website and search "Lyttle" the article will come up and you can see it is an independent secondary source.

Thank you for your time, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackmile657 (talk • contribs) 04:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The SC Democrat is a pay-walled website, meaning that I'd have to pay a registration fee to access its content. I do not choose to do so, but I suspect the source verifies that Lyttle did, in fact, open a company called The Lyttle Company. That's not really a notable accomplishment. Claims of being published in The New York Times turn out to mean that he wrote a letter to the editor. Again, not notable. A link you have titled "John Lyttle -- The Goolge Notability Panel" is really just a link to the Google results page for "John Lyttle III". You're going to have to find better sources, and more notable accomplishments other than founding a company and helping an author by creating charts and graphs for his book. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 04:56, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Kutty Padmini
Hi, it is not promotional or not copied from other websites. pls do approve the information, it is directly coming from the celebrity — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohithdenu (talk • contribs) 09:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is copied from other websites (this one, this one, and this one, at least), and it is promotional, which is understandable since the information is coming from the subject herself. Wikipedia discourages people from editing their own biographies for this very reason. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You asked the question, but then ignored the answer. Your changes to the Kutty Padmini are invalid because:
 * you have added material copied verbatim from this source and this source, which violates Wikipedia's copyright violation policy;
 * the information is not verified by any reliable source;
 * the text is largely promotional (not surprising, since it comes from the website of her own company).
 * Saying that the information is verified my Ms Padmini herself is meaningless; Wikipedia requires independent third-party sources. Please do not re-introduce this material. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

William H. Coles deletion?
--WHColes (talk) 18:37, 8 January 2020 (UTC)Dan,

My name is Stacey Ducker. I am the person using the user name:WHColes and also editing his page not him. I'd like to clear some misconceptions you have about his information.

You wrote: Coles had a somewhat successful career as an opthalmic surgeon and professor, although not sufficient for WP:ACADEMIC.

Somewhat successful career? Because you think he's not listed in the American Academy of Ophthalmology? In 1982 Dr. Coles received the Honor Award from the AAC. Just recently the AAC wrote and published an article about Dr. Coles: https://www.aao.org/senior-ophthalmologists/scope/article/william-h-coles-md-ophthalmologist-novelist.

He is a world-renowned ophthalmic trauma surgeon: Medical •	(1992) McDonald Lecturer, Loyola University ChicagoWHColes (talk) 18:37, 8 January 2020 (UTC) •	(1992) Purnell Lecturer, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio •	(1982) Honor Award, American Academy of Ophthalmology •	(1998) Distinguished Service Award, American Academy of Ophthalmology •	(1978) Conrad Berens Film Award for film on Essential Blepharospasm, American Academy of Ophthalmology •	(1986–1997) Examiner, American Board of Ophthalmology •	(1976–2002) Reviewer: Journal of the American Medical Association, Archives of Ophthalmology, American Journal of Ophthalmology, Ophthalmology (journal), Southern Medical Journal, and others •	(1987–1997) Trustee, Association of University Professors in Ophthalmology •	(1996) President, Association of University Professors in Ophthalmology •	(1990–1996) Regent, Board of Regents, American College of Surgeons •	(1993–1997) Commissioner, Joint Commission on Allied Health Personnel in Ophthalmology

Magazines and Professional Journals in which he has written articles:

Journal American Medical Association (also poetry reviewer nine years) Ophthalmology Journal of Ophthalmology British Journal of Ophthalmology Journal of the Association of Research and Vision in Ophthalmolgy Chattahoochee Review Southern Medical Journal (editor)  Medical texts

•	Intraocular Injuries: Their Immediate Surgical Management (with Haik, George M. and Elizabeth M. McFetridge) Philadelphia: Lea & Febiger, 1972. 9780812103946 [5] •	Ophthalmology: A Diagnostic Text Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins, 1989, ISBN 978-0-683-02056-4 [6]

Selected peer-reviewed articles:

•	Coles, W.H. and P A Jaros. "Dynamics of ocular surface pH." British Journal of Ophthalmology: Volume 68, issue 8, 1984. •	Coles, William H. "Pilocarpine Toxicity: Effects on the Rabbit Corneal Endothelium." Archives of Ophthalmology: Volume 93, No. 1, January 1975. •	Coles, William H., M.D. "Signs of Essential Blepharospasm: A Motion-Picture Analysis." Archives of Ophthalmology: Volume 95, No. 6, June 1977. •	Coles, William H. "Traumatic Hyphema: An Analysis of 235 Cases." Southern Medical Journal: Volume 61, Issue 8, August 1968. •	Coles, William H., M.D. and George M. Halik, M.D. "Vitrectomey in Intraocular Trauma: Its Rationale and Its Indications and Limitations." Archives of Ophthalmology: Volume 87 No. 6, June 1972. •	Coles, William H., M.D., Stephen E. Wear, Ph.D., Jemas J. Bono, Ph.D., Antoinette S. Peters, Ph.D., and Elaine J. Lenkei, M.S. "Teaching the Informed Consent Process to Residents." Southern Medical Journal: Volume 82, issue 1, January 1989. •	Coles, William Henry, M.D. "Essential Blepharospasm." Southern Medical Journal: Volume 66, Issue 12, December 1973. •	Crouch, Rosalie K., John Patrick, John Goosey, and William H. Coles. "The effect of age on corneal and lens superoxide dismutase." Current Eye Research: Volume 3, issue 9, September 1984: pp. 1119–1123. •	Crouch, Rosalie K., Patrice Goletz, Arthur Snyder, and William H. Coles. "Antioxidant enzymes in human tears." Journal of Ocular Pharmacology and Therapeutics. Volume 7, Number 3, Fall 1991: pp. 253–258. •	McCord, Clinton D., Jr., M.D., William H. Coles, M.D., John W. Shore, M.D., Robert Spector, M.D., and James R. Putnam, M.D. "Treatment of Essential Blepharospasm." Archives of Ophthalmology: Volume 102, No. 2, February 1984. •	Redmond, Thomas M., E.J. Duke, William H. Coles, Jo Ann V. Simson, and Rosalie K. Crouch. "Localization of corneal superoxide dismutase by biochemical and histocytochemical techniques." Experimental Eye Research: Volume 38, issue 4, April 1984, pages 369-378. •	Also: 21 book chapters and 59 scientific peer-reviewed papers.

You then wrote: He then embarked on a retirement career as a writer, publishing exclusively self-published works. The list of literary awards includes a number of short list and finalist placings in the William Faulkner - William Wisdom Creative Writing Competition, but no actual wins.

Dr. Coles has sold tens of thousands of books which means being self-published is not shameful nor is it because a publishing house isn't interested. Quite the contrary. When you self-publish your work you have total control on how and where it is distributed. Dr. Coles, like thousands of others, chose to be in control of their work. Self-published authors make it onto national and international bestsellers lists also. Dr. Coles is one of those authors.

Being a finalist in the William Faulkner - William Wisdom Creative Writing Competition is a HUGE accolade which adds prestige to any writer. This is not a participation trophy - it is quite the accomplishment to be recognized which is why his awards are listed.

Finally - 5M+ visits to his website is an accurate number. I can provide the numbers if you'd like them as proof. Why so many? He has an enormous following because every short story is free to the reader - every podcast - interview - book tutorial is free. If you'd like to learn how to become a successful literary writer please do visit his website.

You also wrote: Other than clean-up edits, the article has been exclusively edited by three SPA editors, the latest of whom (WHColes) one might safely presume is the subject himself. - You presume incorrectly as I mentioned at the beginning.

I hope this clears up any misconceptions you may have had and William H. Coles Wikipedia page stay intact.

Regards, WHColes (talk) 18:37, 8 January 2020 (UTC)Stacey Ducker


 * You are free to make your case at Articles for deletion/William H. Coles. Please note that editing under a username that implies that you are someone else is a violation of Wikipedia's username policy. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I have shortened the history section and revised the draft of the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai page. Can you review again?Emagill21 (talk) 09:41, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai
Hi, I saw that the page American Chamber of Commerce Shanghai was declined again. I was wondering if you could please elaborate on why? And the best ways to edit it moving forward. Thank you for your help.
 * The page has not been declined again. It was declined once, you have resubmitted it, and it is still awaiting review based on the resubmission. I see that you have added some independent sources, but many of these merely quote the AmCham survey as a source for their stories on the general state of US-China trade. Only one of the cited articles (the Forbes article) appears to have any in-depth coverage of the organization itself. You'll need more of that type of source and less reliance on self-published material. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:12, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback and I am adding more sources today.

William H. Coles deletion?
Dan,

I've changed the user name to my own. I created the WHColes name for my records to keep each page I edit identified. I was not trying to usurp a system it was just easier for me to keep track.

I gave you his entire medical bio - what do you need to support the history?

He has bestselling books that are self-published. That doesn't and shouldn't negate the success. I've attached the ISBN numbers for each. What else do you need as supporting references?

His awards stand. Through those awards is how I first learned of Dr. Coles. They're quite exceptional so I'm not sure how they can be deemed inappropriate.

I need to know what needs to be done to keep this article from being deleted as you've proposed.

Thank you, StaceySMD2020 (talk) 13:58, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "... to keep each page I edited identified." Does this imply that you have used other user names for other pages you've edited? If so, please read WP:Sockpuppet. And again, regarding the deletion of the William H. Coles page, nothing you tell me will matter. The discussion of this matter is taking place at Articles for deletion/William H. Coles; any points you wish the community to know in support of keeping this article should be made there. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:07, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

William H Coles - User Name
Dan,

No, I am not implying that I have used other user names to edit other articles. I was recently asked by another author if I could update their Wikipedia. In thinking that I may do that I felt I would sort the user names by pages. But since I have not and will not continue to edit pages for Wikipedia you will find that I have changed my user name to reflect me so there will be no further confusion.

StaceySMD2020 (talk) 15:19, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Kutty Padmini
If you have a source for the copyvio, I can revdel--  Deep fried  okra    13:18, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

OH, got it.--  Deep fried  okra    13:19, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Imago Theatre Portland, Oregon
Hi, Dan:

I am reaching out to ask that you reconsider the deletion of the Imago Theater (Portland, Oregon) wiki page. I am a brand new editor and had a fairly steep learning curve with this one even after watching tutorials, so I believe my editing process may have left something to be desired. I have since gone into the article to fill it out more fully and make many citations. You had mentioned that they were a local, run of the mill company, but I hope my updates will show that the company has been touring nationally and internationally for many decades and have received significant and broad attention. I cited some NY Times Reviews, Vanity, American Theater, etc. I am a theater historian and have really never come across a company quite like them. They've been compared to Cirque de Soleil mixed with Mummenschanz, and I would agree. It was unlike anything I had ever before seen which prompted me to work on the entry page as the only thing that existed there was information about the historic building they had been slated to sell which they in fact didn't. Anyhow, appreciate your review of this and I am very excited to be here and hope to continue to bolster that page and also look into updating some more theater sites as well!! PdxACCURATE (talk) 16:09, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * There's nothing to reconsider. The nomination was made in good faith, but the discussion has asserted that the organization is, in fact, notable. At the end of the discussion period, and administrator will assess the discussion and make a decision. Based on the present state of the discussion, it's pretty clear that the article will be kept. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:13, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Pure Grown Diamonds
Hi there. Pure Grown Diamonds or Gemesis Inc. is a wholesaler and distributor not a diamond grower.

The company, as per its website and its business model (which I have duly linked) clearly indicate that it is a wholesaler. Several retailers claim to be Pure Grown Diamond resellers. Hence your edited claim of PGD growing diamonds using HPHT method is incorrect. I have edited that back today.

JaneCooper20 (talk) 13:38, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Wired describes Gemesis (Pure Grown Diamond's predecessor company) as a diamond producer. Neither of the sources you've linked from the PGD website (their "Become a Retailer" or their "Retailer Login" page) refutes the statement made by Wired nor by Gemesis' own web page (found through the Internet Archive and linked in the article itself). I will correct myself that the Gemesis website does mention that PGD uses (or at least, Gemesis used) both common diamond growing techniques in their laboratories. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:35, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

--JaneCooper20 (talk) 14:43, 20 January 2020 (UTC) -- this cant be the company Wired article refers to as it came into existence on the shown date. Wired article talks about Gemesis Diamond Company

In all likelihood, this is the company that Wired article probably refers to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gemesis_Diamond_Company.jpg
 * You'll forgive my confusion. From what I can gather, Gemisis Acquisition Corporation (Deleware File #5212499) was founded on 9/13/2012, and Gemesis Diamond Company (Deleware File #2672225) was founded 10/9/1996. The description of company foundings and website acquisitions given on the Wikipedia page sounds a lot like a giant shell game. I'm done trying to sort it out. Write whatever you like. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

John Lapinski Edits
Hi, hoping you can re-review the John Lapinski entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Lapinski; I've added sources to the original per your recommendation. Thanks! MedialadyCLA (talk) 13:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

i am useing first the wikipeda
hello wikidan61 I need ur help I can't understand how I add my updated information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asadkhan110487 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * As you appear to be (or at least, claim to be) Asadullah Khan, I should point you to Wikipedia's policy about editing your own biography. Rather than editing the article directly, you should edit the article's talk page and request specific edits, preferably with citations to sources that can verify the changes you wish to have made. The specific problems with the edits you've made are:
 * they do not cite any sources, so we have no way of knowing they are correct;
 * they use incorrect Wikipedia markup, so the format of the article has been broken; and
 * they represent a conflict of interest because, as I mentioned above, you should not be editing your own biography.
 * I hope this explanation helps. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Clarification
Thanks for your message.

I will set up a new account, deliberately and clearly showing my affiliation with & employment by the Society of American Foresters. I am editing their Wikipedia entry as part of my work for SAF. I understand better the vebatim copying issue now. But I still need to update and correct factual errors in the 2010 version of the wikipedia entry.

Richard Guldin Senior Research Fellow Society of American Foresters

guldinr@safnet.org Richard Guldin (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC)--Richard Guldin (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Users with a stated conflict of interest are recommended to request edits for the topics with which they are associated rather than editing the articles directly. Specifically, you can use the Request edit template for this purpose. Be prepared to cite reliable sourcehttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WikiDan61&action=edit&section=15s in order to verify that the changes are needed. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:30, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

. I am NOT getting paid to edit the Society of American Foresters wiki entry. I am editing it as a long-time SAF member. My contract work for SAF is research on the interface between forest science--old and new--and forest policy. In short, how can available science better inform policy makers and policy decisions. Google GuldinForestry.com for more details on my research and activities.

I think much additional work remains to be done to improve wikipedia articles related to SAF matters. Here's my quick list: So to me, there is much work that needs to be done to "tidy up" the links and connections among articles. What do you suggest as the next step(s) forward? --RWGuldin (talk) 13:11, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The Journal of Forestry's wikipedia entry is out of date.
 * There is no equivalent wikipedia page for Forest Science, so I think a new page needs to be created. Both of these peer-reviewed journals are now published by Oxford University Press, and they have taken over maintenance of all the back issues (JoF 116 years & ForSci 64 years).  →  The wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_forestry_journals also needs to be edited after the page for Forest Science is created to properly link to it. In the same article, in the defunct journal list in that article, links for the Southern, Northern, and Western Journals of Applied Forestry can be linked to the archive of past published issues via the Forest Science page.
 * I've also been urged by some fellow SAF members to add the list of SAF annual convention by year, city, and theme and to note joint meetings with the Canadian Institute of Forestry. I have an Excel spreadsheet of those back to 1946--sifted from published proceedings available online.  Although some might think that's "copyrighted material", that information is searchable and publicly available online, so I don't think it's copyrighted.  What's your interpretation of that?
 * Next steps forward:
 * Edit Talk:Journal of Forestry to recommend changes that would be needed to bring it up to date.
 * Request an article about Forest Science at WP:Requested articles, or create a draft yourself at Draft:Forest Science and submit it through the Articles for Creation process. (I would recommend that, in addition to the comments you've made on your talk page, you place a disclaimer on the talk page of any article or draft associated with the SAF. You can use the Connected contributor template for this purpose.)
 * The list of annual SAF conventions might be of interest to SAF members, but is not of interest to a general encyclopedia audience. Presumably, this information exists on an SAF website somewhere. If not, it would be better to post the information there. Remember, Wikipedia is not intended to be an alternative for your own organization's website.
 * -- WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:13, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Boaz Toporovsky
hi, i am working on this and keep adding sources, please allow me to finish. Rknesset (talk) 14:42, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You should mark the article as in use until you are done making your edits. You may also use the "Show Preview" feature to view the results of your edits without committing them, so that all of your edits (including sources) can be made in one change. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:43, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Good to know! thank you! will add it now. Rknesset (talk) 14:46, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Michael D'Andrea Page
I have placed a request for Semi-Protection for 1 week on the article as pending changes seems to just be adding work for other editors. Slywriter (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:05, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

DS alert
QuackGuru ( talk ) 19:49, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I recognize that this topic is covered by administrative sanctions. I'm not entirely sure why you would have pointed that out to me, considering that you are one of the users most specifically called out in these sanctions. Was there a point? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:54, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for February 1
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Wrocław, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page SAP ([//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Wroc%C5%82aw check to confirm] | [//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Wroc%C5%82aw?client=notify fix with Dab solver]).

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 15:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Albrecht Kossel
hello wikiDan61! We studied the life and important work of Albrecht Kossel almost four years, published a well accepted novel in August 2019 and submitted now a scientific article for publication. If possible we would like to add something of our knowledge about the great personality of Albrecht Kossel in the English Wikipedia. How can we now proceed? Would you be as kind as to give us helpful informations? Of course our Englisch is not the best. We hope to learn the citation rules. Yours Dr. Edith Framm and Dr. Joachim Framm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Joachim Framm senior (talk • contribs) 11:15, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * When I get a chance, I'll review your edits further and perhaps clean them up. I will note that you have cited the German Wikipedia as one of your sources, which is something we do not allow. (Since Wikipedia may be edited by anyone, it is not always a reliable source.) You would do better to cite the sources that the German Wikipedia article cites, rather than citing the Wikipedia itself. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:49, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Dear wikiDan61!

Thank you for your friendly answer! Maybe I should proceed stepwise with our proposed edits? So it can be easier to clean them up. I unterstand to cite better the direct sources. Yours Dres. Framm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Joachim Framm senior (talk • contribs) 13:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

An important help.
The map in durrani empire article is historically incorrect. It does not show the full extent of the empire (if you want i can provide additional information and source on that). The map below is quite an accurate one. I hope you will make this positive contribution and change it. Thanks. https://alchetron.com/Durrani-Empire#demo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:81D8:D659:FE96:D279 (talk) 22:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

I am waiting for your answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:752C:4C29:8CBB:BE19 (talk) 20:09, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't generally interact with non-registered users (for one thing, which IP address do I reply to?). If you'd like to make this change, you may do so (you don't need to register to edit a page, although you might need to register to upload the new map). You'll need to provide that source you mentioned in order to verify that your preferred map is more accurate than the existing one. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
Hello ,

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
 * Source Guide Discussion

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.
 * Redirects


 * Discussions and Resources
 * There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
 * A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
 * A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
 * A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
 * Refresher

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7095 Low – 4991 High – 7095

To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here 16:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Review of submission for American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai
Hello, I have revised the submitted page for the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai and have added more reliable outside sources. Can you please review the submission? Emagill21 (talk) 00:04, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've updated the page with the following changes:
 * We don't use Wikipedia pages as citations (see WP:CIRCULAR). Instead, I've created the proper Wikilinks.
 * I've removed the list of past presidents and governors: this material is considered trivia, of interest only to actual members of AmChan, but not to a general encyclopedia-reading public.
 * I've removed the mission statement, per WP:MISSION.
 * I've updated the headings to properly structure the article.
 * I would recommend the following updates prior to publication:
 * More Wikilinks. See Help:Linking.
 * Less history. This history section of the article takes up about 2/3 of the total text, and is entirely too detailed for the general public. Limit the history to the general facts and dates around the founding, and any significant events that have happened with the organization.
 * -- WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:24, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

New edits for American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai page
I have shortened the history section and added more Wiki links. Can you please review the page again?Emagill21 (talk) 04:10, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Sources needed for Days of the Year pages
I see you recently accepted a pending change to February 26 that did not include a direct source.

You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the edit notice on that page, the content guideline and/or the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide. All new additions without references are now being either reverted on-sight or in some cases where the patroller is especially motivated, immediately sourced. I've gone ahead and un-accepted this edit and backed it out.

All the pages in the Days of the Year project have had pending changes protection turned on to prevent vandalism and further addition of entries without direct sources. As a pending changes patroller, please do not accept additions to day of year pages where no direct source has been provided on that day of year page. The burden to provide sources for additions to these pages is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages. Thank you and please keep up your good work! Toddst1 (talk) 00:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Duly chastised! Thanks for catching it! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:33, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

How do I go back and edit that? This was a school assignment and my first time editing Wikipedia so I'm still in the dark on lots of stuff... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pst616 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You can't go back and edit an edit summary. You can answer the question I asked: was the inference your original research, or are their published sources for such inference? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:50, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Inserting information based CV that she provided herself (Cathy J, Price)
Hi Dan, we recently held a wiki writing event at ETH, Zurich to increase wiki entries for female scientists, and we simply edited the wiki entry based on the CV materials (PDF) that were providedly directly by the scientists beforehand (and are not necessarily available online). Is there a way to put back the edits we've done? I see at least for Suzanne Haber and Cathy J. Price are completely removed. What is the point of having a wiki entry for biography if all the materials are actually available in other websites? I look forward to your advice. --Ikurniaw (talk) 15:43, 9 March 2020 (UTC) Irma
 * CVs provided by the subjects themselves are not considered reliable sources, because one can really write anything one wants about oneself in a CV. We prefer to rely on more reliable secondary sources for career information included in Wikipedia biographies. (BTW, I do not see an article for Suzanne Haber; have you spelled that name correctly? The only other article that your edit history indicates you've touched is Kate Jeffery, and those edits have not been reverted.) To answer your question What is the point of having a wiki entry for biography if all the materials are actually available in other websites?, please recall that Wikipedia is not a publisher of original research, it is a summary of prior research, gathered into a single place. So, the point is that the information has been previously published by sources that have the resources to fact check the information, so that Wikipedia can then summarize the information with the knowledge that the information published here is verifiable by references to reliable sources. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:54, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Inserting information based CV that she provided herself (Cathy J. Price)
Thanks for the reply. Is there a way to lengthen the grace period before the contents I made are deleted permanently? I won't have time to find the online resources before the 7-day rule. And how can I retrieve the edits I made?

Thanks--Ikurniaw (talk) 19:08, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Unless you've violated copyright, or violated some other rule to cause your edits to be suppressed, your edits will never be deleted permanently; they will always be available in the page history. If you find reliable sources for your changes, you can go back in the page history, edit the version with your text, copy it, and then paste it into the current version of the article. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:34, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Huntington Station vs. South Huntington
So was South Huntington split from Huntington Station or something? Because according to all the maps I've seen the birthplace of Walt Whitman was actually in South Huntington, despite the address claiming it's in Huntington Station. -User:DanTD (talk) 12:15, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * South Huntington and Huntington Station are not distinct places. South Huntington is a "census-designated place", while Huntington Station, in addition to being a CDP, is the name of a local post office that includes the area known as South Huntington, so addresses within South Huntington list themselves as being in Huntington Station for mailing purposes. However, for purposes of verifiability, we'd need a valid source to place the birthplace within South Huntington rather than Huntington Station. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * How about the CDP maps and almost every other map? Is that valid enough? In the case of the Walt Whitman Birthplace, I made the mistake of naming the commons category as being in West Hills.-User:DanTD (talk) 12:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I take your point about the maps, but if we're going to go in that direction, I wouldn't state that Walt Whitman's birthplace was in Huntington Station because it really never was; the place was probably just called Huntington when he was born, and was later designated as South Huntington as the area became more populated and needed further distinction. I would, instead, just remove the statement altogether from the Huntington Station page and add it to the South Huntington page. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:58, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I know it's already mentioned in the Huntington Station article. Perhaps there should be something about other sites in surrounding Hamlets and CDP's using Huntington Station mailing addresses. I know of one that the NRHP lists as being in Huntington Station when in fact it's actually in Greenlawn. -User:DanTD (talk) 13:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

GOCE March newsletter
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Undid revision 946030511 by WikiDan61 (talk) included patents for technology
Hello Dan i Was wondering if I would be able to put the work under the same page as something along the lines of photolvoltaic futures? MMGibson1 (talk) 19:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)Brandon Gibson
 * Wikipedia does not generally engage in speculation. Until a technology is confirmed to have been developed and tested, or at least documented in more than a single, uncited speculative paper, we tend not to include any discussion of such things. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Inserting information based CV that she provided herself (Cathy J. Price)
Hello,

Thanks for your reply. We're trying to rescue the edits we made before. May I clarify why the text below (with citation) was also rejected? Research from her lab (Ramsden et al., 2011) has contributed to the implementation of Growth mindset to national education in secondary schools. Ikurniaw (talk) 15:19, 19 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The cited source does not mention Price at all, and therefore does not verify her role in the implementation of growth mindset ideas in national education. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:41, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Morocco is an Absolute Monarchy
Hello,

I have added Morocco to the list of absolute monarchies, and my addition was credible of course,because i have added nothing from my own brain, it's just the source from the official Moroccan new Constitution of 2011, that says that the King Of Morocco is on the head of all powers, I personnally want to make or help wikipedia to mention the most of credible informations.

Thank you for helping me to add the country on the list!

Best wishes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SallyBenZakour (talk • contribs) 20:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * According to the Morocco article, the Constitution of Morocco provides for a legislature and independent judiciary, and, under the 2011 Moroccan constitutional referendum, the king's powers were reduced while the powers of the Prime Minsister were increased. These statements in the Morocco article are validly cited to reliable sources. Your own interpretation of the Constitution of Morocco appears to be at odds with the reliable sources. Since we generally prefer not to rely on direct interpretation of primary sources (such as the Constitution itself) but rather on the interpretations of those sources that have been published in reliable sources, you'll need to find sources as reliable or more reliable than the sources presently cited to claim that Morocco is an absolute monarchy. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:53, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

ICANN page on Wikipedia
Hello, I am officially representing ICANN as the global communications coordinator, and we would like to edit some of the content on the ICANN page, using our boilerplate and standard messaging. So there are no copyright issues there. Could you help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buket Yildiz (talk • contribs) 15:26, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You would have to convince the Wikimedia Foundation that you have the right to add this copyrighted text to Wikipedia (see WP:Donating copyrighted material) but I wouldn't bother, since the text is not appropriate content for Wikipedia. Please recall that Wikipedia is not a free webhosting service where organizations get to post their "standard messaging". It is an encyclopedia that covers topics neutrally based on verifiable information available from independent reliable sources. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

WikiDan61 - Me and My community is really worried about these fake changes
Hi WikiDan61,

Hope you have remembered our previous chats, Well, I am here again as someone is trying to play with my family's history, and changing the renowned facts, which is really unbearable, I am lodging police complaint of breaching my family/ancestor reputation against him in local police station or to national archeological survey Of India organization. Guide me if there is any other right way to teach a lesson to those silly people? and keep maintaining the truth/facts here?

Following is the user made changes on 15th March 2020, User 2409:4043:2E03:C55D:4B7E:9AE1:4297:4F7E

I am just here to find help from you!

My whole community and family are really frustrated of these frequent changes being made on wikipedia.com pages which is really creating demotivation in the services of using this platform(wikipedia).

Kindly help me!

AvtarSinghGurjar (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

 * Got it! Thanks! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:50, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

"Sardarwadi Wikipedia" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Sardarwadi Wikipedia. Since you had some involvement with the Sardarwadi Wikipedia redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Regards, SONIC  678  17:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

"Sardarwadi Wikipedia" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Sardarwadi Wikipedia. Since you had some involvement with the Sardarwadi Wikipedia redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Regards, SONIC  678  17:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Deletiong en mass of wiki edits.
Hi WikiDan61,

While I appreciate you leaving a comment on my wiki edit, it is not right for you to embark on the deletion of such extensive editing because you are of the opinion it requires discussion. If you spent a moment to click the reference links that were attched, each adequately explained why the judgment was included in the notable section. There is no subjective claim here. Each judgment, reported in national or international media from thousands of judgments makes them notable. If you have a problem with the title, that can be fixed.

But outscale deleting, despite your achievements as wiki edit, is not called for.
 * You're right -- I was overzealous. Many of these case are independently covered. I've reverted my changes. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Morocco is an Absolute Monarchy
I'm the user that added Morocco on the list of Absolute Monarchies, The new Constitution Reform of 2011 honestly was just a reform of terms and phrases, but nothing changed concerning the king's powers, there is no Reliable source more than the constitution itself, chapter one says "that this constituion is based on the separation of powers and that Morocco is a Constitutional Monarchy..." but we should know that Morocco is a Semi-theocratic state,so it has a religious power and it is : The Commander of the faithful ,this power is the strongest one in the state, that provides for the king to be the head of all other political powers Because in Islam Law the commander of the faithful can't share his powers, and he has to surround all powers of the state,this on one hand. On the other hand let's see the other chapters that proves my subject :

chapter 47 : The king who appoints the prime minister // chapter 48 : The king is the head of the council of ministers// chapter 50 : The king issues the order to implement the law// chapter 53 : The King is the Supreme Commander of the Royal Armed Forces. He has the right to appoint anyone to military positions// chapter 56 : The King is the head of the Supreme Judicial Council (Head of the Judiciary)// chapter 67 : (Says the king is the head of legislature)// chapter 87 : (Says the king can dismiss the prime minister [if a king or a president of a state can dismiss the prime minister, well here it shows that the prime minister has no power over the government nor the executive power! Hence the king or the president is on the Head of the Executive Power]) //

there are other evidences that proves my subject, like the Moroccan Media who speaks about Establishing a Constitutional Monarchy, if it's applied on the real world,why would they speak in media about establishing it? (take in mind that in morocco, the media is not an authority because it is subject to the Ministry of Media and that ministry is subject to a superior power...) and last, moving from Absolute to Constitutional monarchy without the people establish it forcefully logically there is no such thing, because in 2011 events the "Media" says that the Monarch wanted so, and excuse-me let me ask you a question,do you ever heard in the world that a Monarch wants to give his/her powers to let his or her people to account him?

here is the constitution in English : https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Morocco_2011.pdf?lang=en — Preceding unsigned comment added by SallyBenZakour (talk • contribs) 23:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This is why we don't use primary sources at Wikipedia. Your own argument is that Morocco's constitution defines the country as a "constitutional monarchy", but then you choose to interpret that statement in your own light. Unless someone has actually published that interpretation in a reliable source, it remains your own original research, which is not admissible at Wikipedia. If you care to cite reliable sources on the matter, please do so, but please stop trying to publish your own interpretation of the facts. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:30, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Re Tara Simon Wiki
Hi Dan,

Sorry for confusion, I think I saved edits after each change. I was told last time that Tara may not be notable enough based on other pages that linked to her and info provided. I added more info about her working with other celebrities to the page here. Also I added information from Angelica Hale's page mentioning Tara. She is a well-known Youtube celebrity, star from X-Factor, and one of the most famous vocal coaches in the world. Is there any reason this page is being rejected?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickyshockley (talk • contribs) 18:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem with the Tara Simon page that you have repeatedly tried to contribute is twofold:
 * The only reference you've been able to provide is the Wikipedia entry on The X Factor (Season 2) on which she appeared as a contestant. Unless you can find more significant coverage in reliable sources, then she does not appear to meet the criteria for inclusion at Wikipedia. (By the way, noting celebrities whom Simon has coached, without providing any source for such claims, is pointless, since notability is not inherited: a person must be notable on their own, not by virtue of their family, colleagues, or friends.)
 * You have stated that she appeared as a "Top 10 Finalist" on The X Factor, but this article contradicts that statement, noting only that she made it to a round of 24 contestants, where she was eliminated before the 16 finalists were chosen.
 * -- WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks...
... for your feedback Dan. Completely hear you on the overly promotional tone and over use of hyperlinks - am new to this.

I will do an edit of the content as is pointing out all the errors and inaccuracies and resend to you.

What do I do about new content I want to add to the page? Do I submit all that to you in advance, too?

Very best,

AnnieAnnieOleary (talk) 20:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't submit the changes to me, you make notations on Talk:Netmums regarding the changes you'd like to see. Both inaccuracies, and any new information that you feel is necessary (did the site win new awards that are not listed, or publish more books, etc.?) WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Dan. Much appreciate. Annie — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnieOleary (talk • contribs) 21:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry Dan, one ore question. I don't get how to submit thee 'notations' on the Talk:Netmums page. Do I copy the page as is onto a word document, annotate it with EVERY change I want and why, then paste that word document back onto the Talk:Netmums page? I just want to get this right. Sorry for all the questions. AnnieOleary (talk) 21:31, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No, that would be excessive. Instead, make a new section on the talk page called "Requested edits". Explain that you are an editor with a conflict of interest (Hi. I'm the Editorial Director of Netmums, and I'd like to request the following edits.) Then, start by making a series of simple requests, such as (these are only examples!):
 * I'd like to add a line in the "Content" section about the new GobblydeeGook section that was added in 2017. Please see this story (provide link to press story, etc about the new section) to verify.
 * I'd like to change the owner from aufeminin to XYZ corp, which bought the website in 2019. (Provide link to story documenting this fact.)
 * Read WP:Edit requests for more information. The process may take a while, but Wikipedia does not operate on a deadline. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:46, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

And thanks again...
will do as you've instructed. AnnieAnnieOleary (talk) 20:27, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Christian Sanromà - URV ASP 2020
Hi wikiDani61,

Yes, I'm a student of the University Rovira i Virgili, and a classmate and I are making a class assignment about the Multi-stage Desalination, for this reason we donot understand why you and Dianna are removing our explanations if we write this by own words. If you can help us to introduce this information to Wikipedia I would be thanked.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christian Sanroma (talk • contribs)
 * The edits you have most recently made to Multi-stage flash distillation are problematic for two reasons:
 * they are almost identical to the edits that have already been reverted and permanently deleted by as a copyright violation of Fundamentals of Salt Water Desalination By H.T. El-Dessouky and H.M. Ettouney;
 * note that making minor changes to wording, but retaining the structure and sequence of the prior edits is considered close paraphrasing and is still a copyright violation
 * they are overly detailed, make the article read more like a textbook chapter than an encyclopedia article.
 * If your professor has assigned you the task of updating this article, I suggest you recommend that they engage at Wikipedia's School and Univeristy Projects page to understand how to properly mentor you through the process of writing and editing Wikipedia articles. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Regarding The Refrigerator Monologues
I'm sorry about this. I'm pretty new to all this. I'll make the changes immediately. Thank you for your advice.

Your draft article, Draft:Lerin Nicodemus


Hello, WikiDan61. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Lerin Nicodemus".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Removal of facts on West harrow
Hello, you have removed our content on West Harrow - it is not spam. We are a respected arts charity in West Harrow and need to be included on this wikipedia page that records our history and work in the area. Please stop removing our content that has references and citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrowart (talk • contribs) 12:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

You also removed all our references and citations in West Harrow
You also removed all our references and citations to articles and links so that people could check the facts- please put these back immeditaely. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrowart (talk • contribs) 12:28, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did, because your references appear to be little more than advertisements and local stories about the Usurp Art Collective with no context within the article. Your content regarding Usurp claims that Usurp itself is the sole cause for West Harrow's reputation as a Bohemian art enclave, and you'll need sources other than Usurp's own ads to verify that. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles for Creation: List of reviewers by subject notice
Hi, you are receiving this notice because you are listed as an active Articles for Creation reviewer.

Recently a list of reviewers by area of expertise was created. This notice is being sent out to alert you to the existence of that list, and to encourage you to add your name to it. If you or other reviewers come across articles in the queue where an acceptance/decline hinges on specialist knowledge, this list should serve to facilitate contact with a fellow reviewer.

To end on a positive note, the backlog has dropped below 1,500, so thanks for all of the hard work some of you have been putting into the AfC process!

Sent to all Articles for Creation reviewers as a one-time notice. To opt-out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page. Regards, (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

MagnaReady Edit Revert
Hi WikiDan!

I've recently been trying to edit the MagnaReady brand wikipedia page to reflect a more objective / descriptive message about what MagnaReady does and the products they offer. I saw you recently reverted my edits. Could you help me better understand why you reverted my edits so I can go about editing the page in a better or more acceptable way?

Many thanks! Amir.alsay (talk) 21:17, 28 May 2020 (UTC) A
 * By copying material from the company's you have stumbled on two problems:
 * this is a copyright violation and cannot be allowed to remain;
 * companies use their websites to promote themselves, which is appropriate for their website, but completely inapproprate for Wikipedia.
 * Further, your edits introduced a number of inappropriate external links. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

The information about the origin of Sengar caste, which is a gotra of Rajputs, has been given incorrect information. Even in the given source, there is no truth of any kind.
The source of what has changed in the Sengar caste( Rajpoot gotra ) is not reliable in any way. The source that has been given about Lord Rama's sister is also not proved that they would have been related to him in any way with the sister of Lord Shri Ram. The truth is that the word Sengar is not even mentioned in the mythological books, Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads, etc., their origin in any book is not mentioned in any mythical book. If people like this will be linked to the people, then there are many modern gotras who will start connecting with mythical men to prove themselves great.Which will not be true at all, Ishant Sengar seems to be hated by one of his special Jati Yadavs as he made objectionable talk about Ahir women on his page. In order to prove himself great, he has given a wrong source, or from the source he has given, in no way there is any evidence about the origin of Senger, even the name Senger. This is a source about the origin of Sanger, which was already removed, the source is- History of the Rise of the Mahomedan Power in India, Till the Year AD 1612, "History of the rise of the Mahomedan power in India, till the year A.D. 1612: to which is added an account of the conquest, by the kings of Hydrabad, of those parts of the Madras provinces denominated the Ceded districts and northern Circars : with copious notes, Volume 1" - https://books.google.co.in/books?id=NG8-AAAAcAAJ&pg=PR64&dq=the+origin+of+rajpoots+thus+related&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG1O-JxrHoAhUWH7cAHSE8Dr4QuwUILDAA#v=onepage&q=the%20origin%20of%20rajpoots%20is%20thus%20related%20the%20rajas%2C%20not%20satisfied%20with%20their%20wives%20&f=false, https://books.google.com/books?id=sllrz9lD1eQC&pg=PR64 In this, I have been told about the origin of them in my source, then you are requested to please remove their mythical origin and the facts which have been written about them, which were given earlier about their origin. Add it again. Arun singh krishnaut (talk) 09:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There is nothing in the Sengar article about Lord Rama's sister, or any Indian mythological texts. The text to which you refer (History of the Rise of the Mohomedan Power...) was written in 1829: it is unlikely to be considered a reliable source since the rigor of historical study was significantly lower in the past then is currently considered useful. Also, the passage that you have repeatedly cited refers to the term rajput and its origins, not specifically the origin of the term Sengar, so it is not really relevant. As to the rest of your message, I really have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry I can't help you. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

There is evidence SAO copies were unexpected
Hello, I wanted to modify Sword Art Online and saw there was an editing request. I read what it was about, and it was good information, but you rejected because you did not see any proof. I'll send you two links so that you can see there's proof.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2013-04-12/interview-sword-art-online-reki-kawahara last phrase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPOuO-GiH30 0:56

I would like to make the changes and specify that it had unexpected success on the USA.

Thank you for your attention, Laura — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauraloveswiki (talk • contribs) 20:40, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I am unable to view either source you've provided at the moment (work firewall). However, I would note that YouTube videos are not generally considered reliable sources. The Anime News Network source I'll have to evaluate when I can. If it is valid, I would still not recommend the changes that I have previously reverted. These were changes to the lead, where the simple statement that the books received wide commercial success is sufficient. If that success is unexpected, that would be a matter to discuss in the "Reception" section of the article. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

GOCE June newsletter
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 15:47, 5 June 2020 (UTC).

Regarding my book
Hey, I'm Lucky Gupta, and I'm and Indian Writer, So I'm looking for someone useful information about how can list my book on Wikipedia or How Wikipedia works for writers. can you please guide me with some useful information?

Thanks.

Edits and Changes Done to A Page I Was Working On
WikiDan61,

You recently changed information i was working on for a page for my grandfather Joe Boland. This is my first time using Wiki and I have found it extremely frustrating to use.

Why did you make remove all of my recent edits? I am citing everything correctly and no "personal recollections" are being used. Please restore the changes, I am trying to finish this work in time for Father's day for MY father Joe Boland Jr, son of Joe Boland. I have been doing a enormous amount of research as well as digging up pictures from family allover the US.

What is going on?

19:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Mike Boland — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike.Boland33 (talk • contribs)

On an additional note, your reason stated "personal reflection" being used and that we really need reliable information. Well, the reflections were taken directly FROM Joe Boland himself, published fir a broadcast that HE wrote. The reflection are FROM THE PERSON that the page is about. How more reliable can you get?

Please undo the changes, I spent a long time putting this together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike.Boland33 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your entire edit to the article was an excerpt that you credited to Joe Boland himself from The First Time I Saw Rockne. This is why I noted that the content consisted entirely of a personal reflection (i.e. your grandfather's reflections). I'm sorry if you find Wikipedia a frustrating place to edit, but we are trying to create one of the world's most expansive sources of knowledge, so the rules to require that articles be based on independent information, not personal reflections (for more information, refer to Wikipedia's article on reliable sources and its article about the use of primary sources (i.e. the writings of the subject himself)). And while I laud your desire to honor your father by writing about his father, Wikipedia discourages editors from writing about themselves or their own family, because it is too difficult to maintain the necessary neutrality when doing so. If you'd like to write a detailed article about your grandfather, might I suggest that there are better places to do so? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:01, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Dan,

I understand your goal here, I will remove the "personal reflections" and work to better refine the content to meet your policing of this source.

I am going to undo your changes, because you are removing more than just the content. I have uploaded pictures are well. Please leave it alone for a bit while I change it, this back and forth is not necessary.

Mike.Boland33 (talk) 20:23, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Mike

WikiDan61,

Thank you for the most recent formatting changes, that looks much better and will be really helpful. I am going to try and move forward with this project while staying in line with the Wiki parameters.

Mike.Boland33 (talk) 20:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * For now, I'll let the article be. But remember, you have a deep conflict of interest with this topic, and any edits that are not verifiable and neutral will be removed, either by myself or by some other editor. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020
Hello ,

NPP Sorting can be a great way to find pages needing new page patrolling that match your strengths and interests. Using ORES, it divides articles into topics such as Literature or Chemistry and on Geography. Take a look and see if you can find time to patrol a couple pages a day. With over 10,000 pages in the queue, the highest it's been since ACPERM, your help could really make a difference. In late February, Google added 5 new languages to Google Translate: Kinyarwanda, Odia (Oriya), Tatar, Turkmen and Uyghur. This expands our ability to find and evaluate sources in those languages.
 * Your help can make a difference
 * Google Adds New Languages to Google Translate
 * Discussions and Resources
 * A discussion on handling new article creation by paid editors is ongoing at the Village Pump.
 * Also at the Village Pump is a discussion about limiting participation at Articles for Deletion discussion.
 * A proposed new speedy deletion criteria for certain kinds of redirects ended with no consensus.
 * Also ending with no change was a proposal to change how we handle certain kinds of vector images.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 10271 Low – 4991 High – 10271

To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Jorge Vilda profile
Afternoon WikiDan61, My name's Nick Aitken, I work for UEFA.com and She Kicks magazine and I did an interview with Jorge Vilda last week, after which he asked for my help to improve his wikipedia page. I did so, but I see you have removed my changes a couple of times. I'm happy to make it "less promotional" but it does need to be significantly more detailed than the current version - to which it has been reverted. Could I get a bit of leeway on this? Thanks for your help, Nick OnubaNick (talk) 16:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

7644 Sqn
Hi, we believe the CONTROVERSY section of the WIKI is irrelevant and incorrect. Personnel are not mouth-pieces for the UK Government, but provide media output for the Royal Air Force. The BBC did not find any of its employees in breach of any policy's and the article in the Belfast Telegraph, aside from the fact that is was from 2008 was a single cited source.

I would like to remove this section without it being re-instated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FltLTCarey (talk • contribs) 17:07, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please take up the matter at Talk:No. 7644 Squadron RAF. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:36, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hotel episode guide
Is it okay if I change the airdates for Season 2 (1983-84)? I found out that most of them are wrong. Apparently, whoever was compiling them went with the RERUN airdates, and not the ORIGINAL ones. If you want, I can provide the correct airdates for you. The other seasons (though I think one from the third may be off) are correct. Also, the episodes on the DVD set are complete, they are not Syndication cuts; they come in at over 48 minutes. I checked.--2600:6C50:700C:200:B052:A56C:6712:CC97 (talk) 19:25, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Normally I'd say that such changes would need a reliable source, but since the present information has no reliable source, I suppose your unsourced information is as good as any other. Go ahead. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:41, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Three-Chapter Controversy
Hello! Here cite book is written: "authors: Free-form list of author names; use of this parameter is discouraged because it does not contribute to a citation's metadata". Also without "last" and "first" sfn is not working. That was the reasoning behind my edit. --Leaverland (talk) 17:20, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies. Apparently I read the diff backwards somehow and thought you had replaced the "first = | last = " parameters with the "author = " parameter. Carry on! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for July 1
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Oleksiy Chernyshov, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Westinghouse ([//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Oleksiy_Chernyshov check to confirm] | [//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Oleksiy_Chernyshov?client=notify fix with Dab solver]).

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Re your message re Norman Stevenson page at 17.28 on 30 June
Hallo WikiDan61

Thanks for your message. I had recognised that a COI issue was close at hand, so at both my additions of new material to the Norman Lang Stevenson article I declared my family connection very clearly.

I had thought about it carefully and for the following reason concluded that I could contribute, as long as I declared my connection and wrote nothing contentious. The article was labelled as a stub which ought to be expanded. But such an obscure topic would never get expanded except by someone with some personal interest, like a family member or a Carlton Cricket Club member. No-one else would have either the motivation or the background knowledge. The article seemed doomed forever to remain a stub which, before my first contribution, was actually misleading through its omissions.

Please can you clarify what you mean about starting a discussion on the Talk page. That I should make a short statement there in favour of my reverted version and await responses? The last comment there was in 2017 so I’m unsure if there’s anyone who’d get engaged in this. But then I'm so new to Wikipedia that I don’t know how it works.

Is that what I should do?

Roughly how many people need to be involved in a Talk page discussion for ‘consensus’ to be affirmed? If it’s a decision to make changes, who then implements this?

I look forward to hearing from you

Carlwark Carlwark (talk) 11:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, you should start a discussion on Talk:Norman Stevenson regarding whether your expanded version of the article marks an improvement. There are no guidelines as to how many people need to be involved, although if the discussion turns out to be just you and me, we will probably want to seek at least a third opinion. To perhaps save some time, I can expand on my reasons not to support the expansion here.
 * While Norman Stevenson may have been an avid amateur cricketer, this does not appear to be a notable part of his heritage. Unless you can find evidence that independent sources wrote about his cricketing career, it is best left as a cherished family memory, but not part of his Wikipedia biography. Cricket does not appear to have professional status in Scotland as it does in England and other parts of the world, so it is unlikely that Stevenson's career received much more than local newspaper coverage. If he were only a cricketer, and not an Olympic-level field hockey player, we would like not have an article on him at all. Also, the extensive information on his personal life and non-sporting career appear to be based on knowledge you have of him personally as a family member, not on published independent sources, so this information is not verifiable and should not remain in the article. Finally, your heavy reliance on Stevenson's own book Play is problematic since this appears to have been something of a vanity memoir published by him on behalf of the Carlton Cricket Club. This type of primary source, especially since it is unlikely to have undergone any serious fact-checking or editorial review, is not of much use as a Wikipedia source.
 * Should you choose to go forward with the discussion at Talk:Norman Stevenson, I will reiterate my rationale there as well.
 * -- WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:56, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The following was sent to me by email. I prefer to keep Wikipedia discussion on-wiki unless there are privacy concerns (which I do not perceive in this case):
 * Thanks for that helpful clear information. To pay heed to your points, I would like to produce for discussion on the Talk: Norman Stevenson page a new, much shorter version of the article containing 1) only information linked to published sources 2) at least one new reference from an independent cricket history book conveying that NLS was a notable cricketer. I would hope to assemble this within a week. How should I proceed? Should I upload my new article and open a Talk Page discussion at the same time? Or is there a different procedure which I should follow? (sent by )
 * My suggestion to you is that you create your discussion at Talk:Norman Stevenson first where you would outline the changes you'd like to make to the article. You don't need to upload the entire text, simply some bullet points about the topics you'd like to see covered. You should also at that time indicate the sources you'd like to use to cite the expanded information. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:38, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

ITV Schools Programme List
Hello,

The information and list of programmes I recently provided for ITV Schools have come from various sources which I have including the ITV Yearbooks from 1970 - 1988, ITV Schools annuals from 1961 to 1993 and wallcharts all from the ITV Schools period of 1957-1983.

The update for the Wikipedia page for ITV Schools was very slim. This took me three weeks to compile.

In actual fact the update to the Wikipedia page was part of a bigger project I am working on with regards to the history of Schools TV in the UK.

Therefore I will take my efforts elsewhere where it will be appreciated.

Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharlieCharles107 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 5 July 2020 (UTC)